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      Ok but let's say he will show it and we learned that he had mastered it since the timeskip (like Zoro and Luffy) how would you react to the fact that he didn't used it against Dofla and Vergo?

      Both were pretty short confrontations to be fair, with Sanji mainly using Diable attacks.

      It's a question along the same lines as "why didn't Luffy use hardening when he first attacked Doflamingo in the throne room"?

      The answer is that it's a pretty common shonen trope for characters to not go all out straight away.

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      Will you think he was stupid to not go all out when he tried to save his friends? Or will you think it was PIS?

      It doesn't make logical sense a lot of the time, but I refer to the previous trope example.

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      I never take this at face value because that would mean that Dofla would have no problem to deal with the like of Kaido or Fujitora . Which contradict the fact that he feared the former and think that beating the latter will not be an easy task even though he have all is family with him.
      I mean he could just trap them in the Birdcage and let it crush them.

      Maybe Doffy genuinely needs to be inside the cage, at it's center, for it to work like we've seen it?

      Maybe in different circumstances Issho would destroy it with a bit of effort?

      Maybe there'd be no point even trying it with Kaido since he's seemingly unkillable?

      _"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron

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        Both were pretty short confrontations to be fair, with Sanji mainly using Diable attacks.

        It's a question along the same lines as "why didn't Luffy use hardening when he first attacked Doflamingo in the throne room"?

        The answer is that it's a pretty common shonen trope for characters to not go all out straight away..

        Honestly, not attacking Dofla or at least protect himself with koka after the "Goshikito" was pretty stupid.
        The comparison with Luffy will have stand if Luffy would have attack Mingo a second time without koka.

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          I'd say you'd have to have a pretty hardened leg to kick around Wadastumi like a soccer ball.

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            @Rivaille:

            Honestly, not attacking Dofla or at least protect himself with koka after the "Goshikito" was pretty stupid.

            It's not like he just tried a regular attack though.

            He rained fire down on Doffy using Spectre, a fairly strong move in his repetoire.

            Then he got caught by a long range, invisible and apparently instantaneous attack.

            Just because someone doesn't instantly go for hardening doesn't mean they can't use it.

            I mean, just look at Pica's last gasp attempt at stopping Zoro, after relying on his stone assimilation powers for so long.

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            The comparison with Luffy will have stand if Luffy would have attack Mingo a second time without koka.

            He did, the next time he saw him, when he tried to attack Doffy's clone in the underground passage;

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              It's not like he just tried a regular attack though.

              He rained fire down on Doffy using Spectre, a fairly strong move in his repetoire.

              Then he got caught by a long range, invisible and apparently instantaneous attack.

              Just because someone doesn't instantly go for hardening doesn't mean they can't use it.

              I mean, just look at Pica's last gasp attempt at stopping Zoro, after relying on his stone assimilation powers for so long.

              I think there is a misunderstanding here.
              My point is that Sanji do have koka but he did not use it because of PIS.
              I guess that just as he did for Zoro, Oda his waiting for Sanji to have a serious fight and make him finish his opponent with it.

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              He did, the next time he saw him, when he tried to attack Doffy's clone in the underground passage;

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              Loool i forgot that.
              Damn, Luffy is dumb.
              Thanks for the reminder.

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                @DARK_RITUAL:

                I don't remember saying the main cast is all jokes, this how it starts people putting words that isn't there into someone's else comment.

                Oh I'm sooorry, I should have been must specific. Tell me more on how comedic Usopp and Sanji's characters are… Got some love for Chopper too?

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                  Maybe Doffy genuinely needs to be inside the cage, at it's center, for it to work like we've seen it?

                  Maybe in different circumstances Issho would destroy it with a bit of effort?

                  Maybe there'd be no point even trying it with Kaido since he's seemingly unkillable?

                  Always thought that the cage is so tough because all those strings convening at the middle provide structural integrity. Thin razorsharp (although razors got nothing on those strings) strings supported by… some large number of other strings. The bigger the object trying to go through it, easier it gets cut, especially if it had achieved great speed, like a meteor. Any impact against any string gets distributed evenly across every string in the birdcage, effectively reducing it.

                  Or the birdcage is in constant vibration, which is unnoticable to naked eye. It would explain why it cuts through everything so easilly, and also why radio waves weren't passing through.

                  I guess if there was a weapon sharper than those strings, it could have cut through them, but there is no sword that sharp, most likely.

                  I only wish we got at least something of an explanation. I wouldn't hate it if OP was sometimes more detailed when it comes to abilities, like HxH, for example.

                  Originally Posted by Outerspec

                  Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                  It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                    The hax…birdcage again... One of the dressrosas arc greatest shame.

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                      To the people who post "Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk" why do you feel the need to tell us where you're posting from?

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                        @Medical:

                        To the people who post "Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk" why do you feel the need to tell us where you're posting from?

                        Because I want you to know that I'm using an Iphone and not an Android phone… Dah

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                          Because I want you to know that I'm using an Iphone and not an Android phone… Dah

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                          I don't know much about phone types, but I thought they were the same thing?

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                            I don't know much about phone types, but I thought they were the same thing?

                            Lmao, smart people everywhere.
                            BTW, do we have something this week? or is there an issue? Thanks in advance

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                              The hax…birdcage again... One of the manga's greatest shame.

                              Fixed that for you. 😉

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                                To the people who post "Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk" why do you feel the need to tell us where you're posting from?

                                Is this a serious question?

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                                  I think someone from the WG fell in love with Sanji.

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                                    @Medical:

                                    I don't know much about phone types, but I thought they were the same thing?

                                    My mom says the same thing!

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                                      I think someone from the WG fell in love with Sanji.

                                      Akainu? :ninja:

                                      Sanji words from TB will become true:'' In the end, I will be the one that gives you most trouble''.

                                      Sanji's alive only has to count for sanji words, he needs to start giving them trouble now if he ever want to acomplish that. And he already has tough competition.

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                                        To the people who post "Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk" why do you feel the need to tell us where you're posting from?

                                        It's an automated message. Some people just don't disable it.

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                                          @Medical:

                                          To the people who post "Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk" why do you feel the need to tell us where you're posting from?

                                          … to answer your question seriously:
                                          It's an automated thing the app they use (=tapatalk) adds to every post.

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                                            I would say Zoro is a bit stronger than Sanji, but that's as far as I would be willing to go when it comes to power level talk. I think there needs to be a more important discussion on how Sanji and Zoro have been portrayed, which can be more subjective.

                                            Before the time skip, I liked Sanji and Zoro equally for different reasons. Sanji had some great moments by using his brain to get the crew through certain parts. The Mr. Prince stuff in Alabasta allowed him to go in and save the crew, which was vital. In Water Seven he got on the train and basically saved Robin until Blueno showed his ability. He was in some pretty silly but cool fights as well, and his speech to Usopp on Enes Lobby was pretty great. Zoro was more of a fighter than using his brain, but there was silliness in some of his fights (like how he tried fighting while Usopp was cuffed to him). More to it, his fights were great because he came through after taking so much damage. He was able to come out on top even after the beatings he received.

                                            Flash forward to the last few arcs, Zoro has been a bore for the most part. Sure, his feats are impressive such as taking on an Admiral and cutting the giant Pica, but the impact isn't there. When Zoro cut Mr. 1, it was great because of the lead up where he took damage and through will finally pulled through. The Kaku fight was great because of the hilarity of the fight and what he went through. Same for the Thriller Bark scene, where he took even more on top of what he had. Now, he just breezes through fights with little effort. Monet being scared is cool in a way, but it lacked impact. Perhaps if Tashigi had won the fight, then she froze by Zoro's aura when trying to attack from behind would be cool. Zoro cutting Pica lacked impact because while visually cool, he only had trouble trying to hit Pica. On a one on one fight, Zoro was easily above Pica. Zoro had a certain smug to him before, but it was okay when his feats came with how much effort he had to put forward. Now he just smiles and wins with no effort, which is boring. Fishman island I let slide because of the placement, but he needs to actually be challenged soon.

                                            Now lets look at Sanji. His win record is not so great, but what he has actually done his great and stands out much more than Zoro. In Punk Hazard, he retrieved Kinemons torso in Nami's body in freezing cold water. After that, he faced Vergo, who was pretty strong and was clashing equally until he got his shin broken. Even after that, he was running with no problem, jumping around and kicking Marines to safety. That right there is pretty cool in my book, as a handicap like that didn't effect him. Then in Dressrosa, he got Violet to get on their side which was a big help in some ways. After that, he went and attacked Doflamingo head on, who is way above his officers. He may not have scratched Doflamingo, but Doflamingo was impressed non the less. Then after all that, he was ready to face Big Mom's ship head on with the weaker members with him, and they came out alive and on something even crazier. The stuff Sanji has done sticks more in my mind because despite some set backs, he continues forward. Screw him not winning any big fights, that isn't a big concern compared to how they contribute overall in the end.

                                            One Piece to me has always been about characters coming over odds and going in situations they may not be able to win. Sanji has been in a number of those but has come out okay. Zoro has been breezing through things, and only some humorous moments have made him stand out currently. Zoro may seem stronger than Sanji because of wins currently, but Sanji >>>> Zoro when it comes to individual moments and being an actual character for me.

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                                              Everytime I enter this thread and think the Sanji-Zoro-discussion has ended someone comes in and refires it

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                                                Isn't sanji like the brains of the dh's.

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                                                  Let's stop talking about Zoro/Sanji power level nonsense and start talking about how this chapter was seriously lacking some Gekko Moria! C'mon! Unforgivable!

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                                                      @Kishido:

                                                      Everytime I enter this thread and think the Sanji-Zoro-discussion has ended someone comes in and refires it

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                                                      If it makes you feel better, I didn't go into power level stuff:sad:

                                                      There are a few things I have to question this chapter about though. First, how can all the citizens see Mansherry from where they are. She is so small and up on the terrace that not only should they not be able to see her, they shouldn't be able to discern what she even looks like. Does she just have some kind of cute aura going on that even if you can't see her it makes people react that way?

                                                      Secondly, I think Sengoku has gone senile. Like Fujitora going and just saying sorry to Akainu for his actions is going to make things better. A foot soldier got Magma fisted for getting scared during the war and wanting to go home. Pretty sure Akainu would like nothing more than to give multiple fistings to the man who made the Marines a laughing stock. Sengoku should fully well know what Akainu is like, since he did want Aokoji to become fleet admiral.

                                                      Beyond that, we still might get a little more Bart action, which is good for me.

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                                                        Physically speaking isn't Zoro the strongest in the whole crew? Like he's the only one that is shown working out and shit and using weights and probably has the most muscle.

                                                        Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                          Physically speaking isn't Zoro the strongest in the whole crew? Like he's the only one that is shown working out and shit and using weights and probably has the most muscle.

                                                          Yeah, yeah believe he is… Now forget it all

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                                                            Physically speaking isn't Zoro the strongest in the whole crew? Like he's the only one that is shown working out and shit and using weights and probably has the most muscle.

                                                            That's very arguable. Luffy's physical feats have always been as or more impressive than Zoro's.

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                                                              If Zoro is actually stronger than Sanji and have important parts is because Zoro is Luffy right hands or vice captain since it's about piracy .
                                                              Zoro is like rayleigh,he have a bigger dream than Sanji and even if sometimes he is up to fight and show his muscles Zoro is also smart and gather the whole crew.
                                                              It happened when luffy was fighting aokiji after Robin froze.and when luffy fought against usopp.
                                                              Zoro doesn't always speak but when he do, he do it well.
                                                              Sanji is often trolling but he is useful when it's the time for a fight as long as his opponents aren't girls.
                                                              I don't think he will ever be a big trouble imo not as long as he don't stand up to it with a bigger resolve.
                                                              Even Usopp have a bigger bounty because despite his lies Usopp really wanna become a strong and brave guy and he did more in dressrosa while sanji didn't do much. Sandi might grow up stronger depends on his future fights but what about the governement point of view?wait and see.

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                                                                I would say Zoro is a bit stronger than Sanji, but that's as far as I would be willing to go when it comes to power level talk. I think there needs to be a more important discussion on how Sanji and Zoro have been portrayed, which can be more subjective.

                                                                Before the time skip, I liked Sanji and Zoro equally for different reasons. Sanji had some great moments by using his brain to get the crew through certain parts. The Mr. Prince stuff in Alabasta allowed him to go in and save the crew, which was vital. In Water Seven he got on the train and basically saved Robin until Blueno showed his ability. He was in some pretty silly but cool fights as well, and his speech to Usopp on Enes Lobby was pretty great. Zoro was more of a fighter than using his brain, but there was silliness in some of his fights (like how he tried fighting while Usopp was cuffed to him). More to it, his fights were great because he came through after taking so much damage. He was able to come out on top even after the beatings he received.

                                                                Flash forward to the last few arcs, Zoro has been a bore for the most part. Sure, his feats are impressive such as taking on an Admiral and cutting the giant Pica, but the impact isn't there. When Zoro cut Mr. 1, it was great because of the lead up where he took damage and through will finally pulled through. The Kaku fight was great because of the hilarity of the fight and what he went through. Same for the Thriller Bark scene, where he took even more on top of what he had. Now, he just breezes through fights with little effort. Monet being scared is cool in a way, but it lacked impact. Perhaps if Tashigi had won the fight, then she froze by Zoro's aura when trying to attack from behind would be cool. Zoro cutting Pica lacked impact because while visually cool, he only had trouble trying to hit Pica. On a one on one fight, Zoro was easily above Pica. Zoro had a certain smug to him before, but it was okay when his feats came with how much effort he had to put forward. Now he just smiles and wins with no effort, which is boring. Fishman island I let slide because of the placement, but he needs to actually be challenged soon.

                                                                Now lets look at Sanji. His win record is not so great, but what he has actually done his great and stands out much more than Zoro. In Punk Hazard, he retrieved Kinemons torso in Nami's body in freezing cold water. After that, he faced Vergo, who was pretty strong and was clashing equally until he got his shin broken. Even after that, he was running with no problem, jumping around and kicking Marines to safety. That right there is pretty cool in my book, as a handicap like that didn't effect him. Then in Dressrosa, he got Violet to get on their side which was a big help in some ways. After that, he went and attacked Doflamingo head on, who is way above his officers. He may not have scratched Doflamingo, but Doflamingo was impressed non the less. Then after all that, he was ready to face Big Mom's ship head on with the weaker members with him, and they came out alive and on something even crazier. The stuff Sanji has done sticks more in my mind because despite some set backs, he continues forward. Screw him not winning any big fights, that isn't a big concern compared to how they contribute overall in the end.

                                                                One Piece to me has always been about characters coming over odds and going in situations they may not be able to win. Sanji has been in a number of those but has come out okay. Zoro has been breezing through things, and only some humorous moments have made him stand out currently. Zoro may seem stronger than Sanji because of wins currently, but Sanji >>>> Zoro when it comes to individual moments and being an actual character for me.

                                                                I think the difference is he actually isn't having trouble, and if he had trouble with every enemy like he did in part one we'd be talking about how zoro is boring cause he always struggles and then plot helps him defeat his enemies. As it stands, he is a very strong swordsman. And we have to wait till he encounters a really strong enemy.

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                                                                Constantine Woe • Captain • Crewname N/A • Markswoman/Inventor• Bounty :23,000,000 • SD Earned : 2400 • Beli : 37,000,500 • L : Romulin

                                                                Strength: 100 | Speed: 50 | Stamina: 42 | Accuracy: 50 | Fortune: 60

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                                                                  what i learned from this chapter thread :
                                                                  whenever you want to have +1000 post in a thread say something about power level

                                                                  Sounds about right.

                                                                  Anyway great chapter, starting to see things that I want to see.

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                                                                    16 years ago, the royal family of Flevence left the country…with Sanji !!!
                                                                    Nah!

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                                                                    Is there a site where I can read the raw of the latest chapter ?

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                                                                      Here’s how Naruto should end: Last panel is Naruto standing proudly over Konohagakure. Slowly zoom out to reveal Luffy staring into a snowglobe with a miniature Konoha inside it. Usopp asks him what he’s doing. Luffy replies “Thinkin’ bout ninjas! Ninjas are cool!” and then chucks it off the ship

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                                                                        If Zoro is actually stronger than Sanji and have important parts is because Zoro is Luffy right hands or vice captain since it's about piracy .
                                                                        Zoro is like rayleigh**,he have a bigger dream** than Sanji and even if sometimes he is up to fight and show his muscles Zoro is also smart and gather the whole crew.
                                                                        It happened when luffy was fighting aokiji after Robin froze.and when luffy fought against usopp.
                                                                        Zoro doesn't always speak but when he do, he do it well.
                                                                        Sanji is often trolling but he is useful when it's the time for a fight as long as his opponents aren't girls.
                                                                        I don't think he will ever be a big trouble imo not as long as he don't stand up to it with a bigger resolve.
                                                                        Even Usopp have a bigger bounty because despite his lies Usopp really wanna become a strong and brave guy and he did more in dressrosa while sanji didn't do much. Sandi might grow up stronger depends on his future fights but what about the governement point of view?wait and see.

                                                                        You guys can carry on with Sanji and Zoro, but just one small favor for me, ok?

                                                                        Stop bringing the dream thing. WB had such a small dream but was still what you know he was.

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                                                                          @RamistaR:

                                                                          Is there a site where I can read the raw of the latest chapter ?

                                                                          http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-801-Raw-Scan

                                                                          One Pace - The One Piece anime without the filler and padding.

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                                                                            @Galaxy:

                                                                            http://mangahead.com/Manga-Raw-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-801-Raw-Scan

                                                                            Thank you galaxy.

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                                                                              Big mom's design is different no?

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                                                                                I don't think she was wearing her gnarly pirate hat, and she was lying on her side like a beached whale…pretty sure she was downsized so everyone could fit on the page which could messes with the design

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                                                                                  Is there a chapter this week ? Sorry if it has already been asked

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                                                                                    @Trafalgar-Boy:

                                                                                    Is there a chapter this week ? Sorry if it has already been asked

                                                                                    Yes, there's a chapter this week.

                                                                                    One Pace - The One Piece anime without the filler and padding.

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                                                                                      Spoilers have been coming late Wednesday evenings for me now, used to be in the afternoon 3-4 weeks ago. Now I'm sitting at work refreshing every 30 mins lol

                                                                                      One Piece ,\/,,

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                                                                                        How is "is there a chapter this week" and "when spoilers" better than Sanji vs Zoro?

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                                                                                        I don't think she was wearing her gnarly pirate hat, and she was lying on her side like a beached whale…pretty sure she was downsized so everyone could fit on the page which could messes with the design

                                                                                        I think she was sitting on the chair like a whale.

                                                                                        Not sure if we saw the top of her head, she could have been carrying a hat. It's probably just an accessory. Odds are it can probably talk, just like that freak cake-ship. Perhaps she really can turn candy alive, or something like that, like I've seen someone suggest.

                                                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                          @Razh:

                                                                                          How is "is there a chapter this week" and "when spoilers" better than Sanji vs Zoro?

                                                                                          Truth be told, the chapter is coming out tomorrow already, and this Zoro x Sanji discussion has been stinking for a long ass time already… I've been thinking all week long about that damn Sanji wanted poster. Wonder if Oda is going to reveal why it is so this week or we'll have to wait a few more chapters to find out. I just want 2-3 months of exclusive focus on the Curly Brows. I beg of Oda, we had enough of the 5 left in Dressrosa, it's time for Sanji and co. to shine already.

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                                                                                            Hmm….I guess it would be better if other allies of the Straw Hats saw Usopp's poster post-Enies Lobby, just to see how reliable the disguise really is (I mean, it fooled Luffy and Chopper, but the former is clueless and the latter is naive).

                                                                                            http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-369-page-3.html
                                                                                            Random marine recognized him fine in the train and they are far from bright. So I would say you must be straight up dumb to not recognize Usopp.

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                                                                                              Spoilers have been coming late Wednesday evenings for me now, used to be in the afternoon 3-4 weeks ago. Now I'm sitting at work refreshing every 30 mins lol

                                                                                              I'm currently on holiday at Scotland.. Edinburgh.. Travelled half way across the world.

                                                                                              Time zones are out of wack for me. Where are you from?

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                                                                                                I'm currently on holiday at Scotland.. Edinburgh.. Travelled half way across the world.

                                                                                                Time zones are out of wack for me. Where are you from?

                                                                                                PST - Canada

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                                                                                                  A difference between persons and mere objects is that persons are not replacable without loss; each person has a unique history of experiences, from a specific and necessarily unique perspective, and their resulting life will not be identical to the life of any other person.

                                                                                                  Inb4 "Tell that to Capitalism!"

                                                                                                  Sanji =/= Zoro, and comparing them in the ways that we do doesn't make all that much sense (especially the "size of dreams" claims; I'm not sure those are coherent). I feel like I'm going to regret this post (because it's pretty irrelevant).

                                                                                                  Anyway I'm stoked for the next chapter. I started reading Naruto recently, and - while it's pretty good - its main effect is to make me way more stoked about reading One Piece.

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                                                                                                    http://www.mangastream.to/one-piece-chapter-369-page-3.html
                                                                                                    Random marine recognized him fine in the train and they are far from bright. So I would say you must be straight up dumb to not recognize Usopp.

                                                                                                    Luffy fits the bill. 😉

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                                                                                                      I've said it before and I'll say it again: the reason Zoro has to be stronger than Sanji is because Zoro can't do anything besides fight.

                                                                                                      Luffy: only fights (and is the captain)
                                                                                                      Zoro: only fights (and is first mate)
                                                                                                      Sanji: fights AND COOKS
                                                                                                      Usopp: snipes (and is thus the best at sniping). Also, lying and storytelling are arguably marketable skills. Just ask all of the creative writing majors the US is plagued with. And hey, I'll be the first to admit that One Piece is good enough that I'd read it even if it were just a novel.
                                                                                                      Everyone else has actual marketable skills besides fighting, just like Sanji.

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                                                                                                        I've said it before and I'll say it again: the reason Zoro has to be stronger than Sanji is because Zoro can't do anything besides fight

                                                                                                        Let me interpret this then.

                                                                                                        Because Zoro has no secondary hobby or role, he has more time to train, and subsequently, get stronger?

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