Why do people keep saying she was going to kill Viola? Her blade is about as dangerous as a basket of puppies.
Why does that even matter , don could have just made her stab Viola if getting chop with the sword did not kill her .
Chapter 789: Lucy!!
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she went to kill doflamingo obviously so she should pick up a sharp sword
I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her when it comes to thinking logically. She was gonna embarrass herself regardless.
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Why do people keep saying she was going to kill Viola? Her blade is about as dangerous as a basket of puppies.
Ask someone to get a blunt sword and smack it on your skull. If it fails to kill you, do it more.
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Ask someone to get a blunt sword and smack it on your skull. If it fails to kill you, do it more.
Tell vergo his sword was blunt.I agree with you. Mingo most likely would beat Violet to death with Rebeccas sword and that is (imo) worse fate that getting slain by single cut.
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Hahaha what a looooooooooser
(I'm smoking a cigarette in my dad's beat up army jacket fyi)
I don't smoke… unless I go out drinking, in which case I'll burn through 1 or 2 packs. :sad:
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more simple than just been good ad dodging?
also,we saw what her training was about..haki wasn't even mentioned ONCEIt's not like their conversation was especially lenghty. Kyros sad he'd teach her of a way not to get hurt. Just because they didn't say it was Haki, doesn't mean it wasn't. I myself hate it when the authors spoon feed the readers.
Anyway, it probably is Haki, maybe it isn't. Not much more to say.
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Violet was the best or second best member of the Riku clan but received probably the least focus. She's certainly less aggravating then either Dolde III or Rebecca, outside of her inferior fight narration and vote of no confidence in the marines.
Well she's the only member of the family who hasn't been pertaining to a badly implemented notion of pacifism.
Coincidence? I think not.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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How citizens are pushing alongside zoro and others ?
Don't ask questions you may not want to hear the answer of.
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No, it isn't. MangaPanda are pretty much profiting from material that isn't theirs.
As the person who made that altered panel he posted (and being rather confused, with him bringing up what seems to be the pace of the arc which had nothing to do with Mangapanda nor mentioned in the Abridged, but were things just done by Oda, and yet he ended with trying to make a point about Mangapanda), your response to that sentence was better than several other points I could've made about the high-profile Mangapanda and translations that not only confuse, but mislead sometimes, such as leading people to think that Luffy wanted to take down Shanks first, that marines were trying to start chaos instead of stop it, or even multiple things within this very chapter… well, since your response was so good I don't have to get into all those points though, lol. On a side note, that is a very large sentence I just made there.
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You forgot the mandatory after party chapter. If the usual suspects can't dance around with chopsticks in their nostrils the arc isn't finished. @fapfapfap:
End the arc already Oda. The worst part is knowing that it's going to be at least another month until we get the story moving again and have some interesting developments. No OP next week 790 will be setting up Luffy vs Doflamingo 791 will be Doflamingo's defeat and reaction 792 maybe we'll get some development in one of the dozens of hanging plot threads
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If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
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I was also including Kyros though, and he's not exactly a pacifist.
Huh, I wasn't including him since he's not a member of the Riku clan as such.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Huh, I wasn't including him since he's not a member of the Riku clan as such.
True, but I wasn't sure what phrase to use otherwise. He's most associated with them instead of a different group like the gladiators or dwarves.
Excluding Kyros she's unquestionably the best of the three. Better than Scarlet too if you want to count her as well.
If you get dunked on in the dream, you get dunked on in real life
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Please let the next episode be the actual finale. I am so tired of this story being stretched into inifinity. It's not epic anymore it's just dull
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True, but I wasn't sure what phrase to use otherwise. He's most associated with them instead of a different group like the gladiators or dwarves.
I'd probably have said Riku family if I was including members like Kyros, who became members through marriage or the like.
In the case of just those with Riku blood, I'd say Riku dynasty/clan.
That's just me though.
Excluding Kyros she's unquestionably the best of the three. Better than Scarlet too if you want to count her as well.
Yeah, I'd agree with this.
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End the arc already Oda.
The worst part is knowing that it's going to be at least another month until we get the story moving again and have some interesting developments.
No OP next week
790 will be setting up Luffy vs Doflamingo
791 will be Doflamingo's defeat and reaction
792 maybe we'll get some development in one of the dozens of hanging plot threadsDoflamingo will be beaten next chapter, there is no setting up Doflamingo vs Luffy, the Birdcage is almost crushing them Luffy said he would beat him with one shot.
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I agree with you. Mingo most likely would beat Violet to death with Rebeccas sword and that is (imo) worse fate that getting slain by single cut.
Indeed, it would be like one of those brutal beatings from Vagabond.
So, any thoughts on what the 1 hit KO move could be? I'm hoping for a (jet) king punch like move.
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If Doffy gets knocked out next chapter and we never get to see him fighting without his glasses then I'm going to be very disappointed.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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I'd rather read a One Piece Chapter where every single panel is this:
http://i.gyazo.com/f25bac3346afe62709aca42b2a845632.png
Than believe that people saying that single chapters are awful and worthless, have anything worthwhile to add. You get all these meaningful panels to satisfy that drug-like weekly craving, and then waste it all by being an ingrate. All the tension building up to wanting to see the chapter is released, gradually with each passing page; all that anticipation is drained, and yet, you can't even have the satisfaction that the cycle is complete. "What a waste of a chapter," as if there haven't been hundreds and hundreds of chapters which all flow into each other mostly well to extremely well, which is the whole point that people are even lucky to be here in the first place. Even if it's the worst arc, all these facts of the matter are there.What I'm saying is that MangaPanda at its worst is better than these people.
The pacing has been bad for a while with this particular chapter being one of the worst offenders in what is easily the longest One Piece arc. hth
If it was just a bad chapter in any other arc it wouldn't bother me.
I like One Piece but some arcs are better than others and while I thought this arc started off well there are parts of this arc that really drag on like Fishman Island.
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If Doffy gets knocked out next chapter and we never get to see him fighting without his glasses then I'm going to be very disappointed.
Hell if they manage to break by this point I'd genuinely be surprised.
Those things are fricking indestructible.
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You forgot the mandatory after party chapter. If the usual suspects can't dance around with chopsticks in their nostrils the arc isn't finished.
I'd still prefer that since at least we get some good character interactions.
Doflamingo will be beaten next chapter, there is no setting up Doflamingo vs Luffy, the Birdcage is almost crushing them Luffy said he would beat him with one shot.
Luffy will hit Doflamingo with his attack at the end of 790, 791 will be reactions I guess.
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Hell if they manage to break by this point I'd genuinely be surprised.
Those things are fricking indestructible.
Luffy hasn't really hit him square between the eyes up until this point though, has he?
It'd be strange for Oda to tease us with the book over the face/glasses removal in Doffy's flashback only for us to not get a look at those peepers.
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Luffy hasn't really hit him square between the eyes up until this point though, has he?
It'd be strange for Oda to tease us with the book over the face/glasses removal in Doffy's flashback only for us to not get a look at those peepers.
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If Doffy gets knocked out next chapter and we never get to see him fighting without his glasses then I'm going to be very disappointed.
Vergo got defeated and could be dead and he still had his glasses on, same when he was a kid. Take that as you wish.
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Wouldn't it be nice if Doflamingo won?
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For '' OJIKAN DEATH " i looked for this word
I don't find nothing but it's name manga Gakkou no Ojikan
But what seemed to me that it refers to the former Admiral AOKIJI
Oda may be some manipulation of letters , the two words composed of six letters
The words are similar but the same letters are not arranged with
Removal of the 'N' word OJIKAN Found in KUZAN and removal of the 'i' in AOKIJI
If my words cirrectly may Oda allude us AOKIJI death in the future :sad: -
I see no reason for person to get so worked up over manga character that doesnt fit their expectations(but author is continuously consistent with that character).
As for poisoning this sub forum - I guess that truth(for many what I wrote is truth) isnt always nice to look at. And even if it doesnt fit for 100% of complainers I am sure it fits for many and perhaps thinking about "lack of other problems" could help some people distance themselves a bit from discussion. I am telling this from lately detached from this place pov. Ignoring some of main reasons of something that is viewed by many as problematic is one of reasons problem continues and its effects are not lessened.Maybe I am just not that much into discussion as I was before. Its very disturbing to see some people repeating their negative opinions even after they were based on things that were discussed milion times already. Like Rebecca and Odas sexism- Oda is parent and he added some family-relation themes into manga, lately he is giving more attention to "saving children". During Punk Hazard we had Strawhats saving children, now we have Rebecca aaand we even have "Doflamingo family" as a group of villains. Oda clearly wants to touch upon more of family bonds subject. He was consistent with Doflamingo family rules and he also does same thing with Rebecca.
Other person that was so consistent with his way that it hurt readers - Bellamy. That is another example of Oda creating CHARACTER and sticking to it, not throwing left and right magically super resolved characters beating far stronger enemies. Maybe some of people from here were reading too many other mangas that worked like that and gotten to expect same thing to chappen with Bellamy or Rebecca.
Rebecca that is 16 years old girl that doesnt want to hurt anybody. Oda wanted to show through Dressrosa that Rebecca even while being daughter of Gladiator Kyros, doesnt want to hurt anybody as she is very delicate person. Not all women need to be Trantino-strong females.
Though even as people mock Rebecca for being weak and useless - she managed to avoid fatal blow from Hakuba while loved by most people here "so strong" Dellinger gotten slain and wasnt even able to react to Hakubas speed. All depends on how Oda prefers to portray a character.
That's a really good point about Rebecca and hakuba which she really doesn't seem to get credit for.
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@uniaka:
Vergo got defeated and could be dead and he still had his glasses on, same when he was a kid. Take that as you wish.
Yeah, but Vergo's also a much less important character than Doffy.
We also never got any indication of what Vergo's eyes might have looked like, but we did with Doffy during the Corazon flashback.
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Been thinking about Bart's barriers, not sure if it's been brought up.
We've seen them take attacks from Dellinger, Hack, Hakuba, etc without moving. But they're moving vs the strings. Of course, I'm overanalyzing this because it's one of many things Oda's just doing for plot reasons; but taken literally, what it means is this. The barriers, while unbreakable from what we've seen, can in fact be moved, either by a lot of force or Bart getting tired or being dumb in how he uses them (i.e. attaching the barrier to the strings instead of the ground). The easiest explanation is that it's just from force, like a guy holding a shield up vs a train– it's not really gonna matter, the shield might not break but it's gonna move and hit you and kill you just as much, with enough force. In short, it's possible Bart's barriers have a weakness, and someone like Luffy hitting it hard might still KO Bart, by knocking the barrier into him.
That brings up an interesting notion too; if Bart covered his body all over in a barrier, like skin, what would happen if he were punched really hard? Well, given that a barrier can move, that means it can transfer energy/motion, which means although the Barrier wouldn't break, Bart might still get sent flying and his skull crushed from inside that barrier.
That reminds me of how Jimbei (using his official English name though I'm never really sure what to call him) did a punch which affected the water in the air, passing it through Luffy and hurting him. Something like might hurt Bart within his barrier as well, but then again, it might not, because a lack of water molecules in the barrier itself might prevent it (depending how much that one aspect of it really matters). Of course, if the barriers can transfer motion, that might be enough too. Nevertheless, Jimbei's attack vs Luffy actually never made sense to me at all, because no matter what's moving or vibrating in his body, he's still rubber, and still stretchy, so it didn't make sense that Luffy was hurt by that whereas a general cannonball, punch, or round bullets in the gut wouldn't.
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For '' OJIKAN DEATH " i looked for this word
I don't find nothing but it's name manga Gakkou no Ojikan
But what seemed to me that it refers to the former Admiral AOKIJI
Oda may be some manipulation of letters , the two words composed of six letters
The words are similar but the same letters are not arranged with
Removal of the 'N' wordOJIKAN Found in KUZAN and removal of the 'i' in AOKIJI
If my words cirrectly may Oda allude us AOKIJI death in the future :sad:Nope.
It stands for ojikan desu that means "now it's the time", referring to the end of the countdown.
Death in japanese is translitterated as desu that is homophone to the verb desu (roughly to be). -
Letting Fujitora stay on Dressrosa was a bad writing idea,in my point of view.
Let's see:he's getting owned by a giant string cage made by shichibukai that isn't even sweating to mantain it while he fights other people.He's also relying on a pirate to beat Doflamingo-a menace to every living being on Dressrosa right now- instead of trying to stop the mad shichibukai himself.The truth is:I simply cannot see him as a powerhouse anymore…from now on,whenever I see him,I'll always remember him as the admiral that tried to push the birdcage with all his might and... failed.
Honestly...if chapters like this don't show that Mingo>Fujitora,then I don't known what to think...
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Letting Fujitora stay on Dressrosa was a bad writing idea,in my point of view.
I can honestly say that having him go with the sanji group would've been great … BM, fuji and SH, that's a great triple threat. But on the other hand, he's been a great character all in all and has fulfilled his objective in this arc which is letting his intentions known and showing his strenght.
Let's see:he's getting owned by a giant string cage made by shichibukai that isn't even sweating to mantain it while he fights other people.He's also relying on a pirate to beat Doflamingo-a menace to every living being on Dressrosa right now- instead of trying to stop the mad shichibukai himself.
first of all, doffy is probably the second strongest shichi (assuming mihawk is the top badass). second, they never had a legit 1 v 1 encounter (not taking into account the bitch kick of doffy) to determine their strength. Third, in OP
we don't have something called a power level between characters although haki is now becoming sorta a power level. Luffy beat enel and crocodile who stood up to akainu and SURVIVED. 4th (i'm getting tired) there might be a
legit reason why BC is so op, maybe it's made of seastone as it can't cut the factory. 5th, we can postulate that sabo is stronger than luffy (based solely on him being the 2nd after luffy's dad and that he beat ace 51 v 49 when they
were kids and that might suggest him being stronger than ace who was stronger than luffy …. I HATE THIS POWER COMPARISON!!!!!!) and fuji not breaking a sweat in a fight against him while he was obviously sweating means he
has some craz strength. LAST, doffy himself admitted he and ryokugyo are monsters in terms of strength and the moment he pulled that meteorite down on green bit, doffy was obviously shocked.
honestly…if chapters like this don't show that Mingo>Fujitora,then I don't known what to think...h
well, I gave U 7 reasons how it is not. If U want more just ask …
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Letting Fujitora stay on Dressrosa was a bad writing idea,in my point of view.
Let's see:he's getting owned by a giant string cage made by shichibukai that isn't even sweating to mantain it while he fights other people.He's also relying on a pirate to beat Doflamingo-a menace to every living being on Dressrosa right now- instead of trying to stop the mad shichibukai himself.The truth is:I simply cannot see him as a powerhouse anymore…from now on,whenever I see him,I'll always remember him as the admiral that tried to push the birdcage with all his might and... failed.
Honestly...if chapters like this don't show that Mingo>Fujitora,then I don't known what to think...This probally pointless but:
Really find this silly ,we already know bunch devil fruits than cant simply be overcome with power.
Since Perona can beat majority(hypothetically) of people in one piece universe with her power is she top dog, the one with highest of power levels then?
X>Y so Y shouldnt bother because X power level is bigger… this kinda talk doenst really belong here. -
I really wanna know about the secret of marijoa and CP0 but i think the moment he wants to disclose it, they will step in and kill/kidnap him. There is really no point of them kidnapping him except that he "stole" something from
marijoa and they wann get it back. I'm really hyped for that, and they might even kill law and get the ope ope no mi so that they can "rule the world" as if they're not already
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How citizens are pushing alongside zoro and others ?
They are pushing either the factory or the barrier. I don't see anyone with Zoro.
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They are pushing either the factory or the barrier. I don't see anyone with Zoro.
He's asking because of Mangapanda's translation, "Barto, warriors and citizens", then " Franky, Wicca and citizens" and then "Kin, Kan, Zoro, Issho and citizens".
Also Doula losing his shades sounds like one huge unrealistic expectation.
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Oh I see. My bad. Maybe they are pushing behind Zoro
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I can honestly say that having him go with the sanji group would've been great … BM, fuji and SH, that's a great triple threat. But on the other hand, he's been a great character all in all and has fulfilled his objective in this arc which is letting his intentions known and showing his strenght.
first of all, doffy is probably the second strongest shichi (assuming mihawk is the top badass). second, they never had a legit 1 v 1 encounter (not taking into account the bitch kick of doffy) to determine their strength. Third, in OP
we don't have something called a power level between characters although haki is now becoming sorta a power level. Luffy beat enel and crocodile who stood up to akainu and SURVIVED. 4th (i'm getting tired) there might be a
legit reason why BC is so op, maybe it's made of seastone as it can't cut the factory. 5th, we can postulate that sabo is stronger than luffy (based solely on him being the 2nd after luffy's dad and that he beat ace 51 v 49 when they
were kids and that might suggest him being stronger than ace who was stronger than luffy .... I HATE THIS POWER COMPARISON!!!!!!) and fuji not breaking a sweat in a fight against him while he was obviously sweating means he
has some craz strength. LAST, doffy himself admitted he and ryokugyo are monsters in terms of strength and the moment he pulled that meteorite down on green bit, doffy was obviously shocked.
well, I gave U 7 reasons how it is not. If U want more just ask ...
Sorry…you just raised some points that doesn't change the facts that I stated...at all.
FACT 1:Fujitora CANNOT stop the birdcage.Period.
FACT 2:Fujitora is relying on a pirate instead of facing a rampaging-out-of-control Doflamingo himself.Why isn't Luffy pushing the birdcage instead of him besides mere plot convenience?
Now,look:how readers react to these facts is up to them.Frankly,considering that an admiral is supposed to be the ultimate marine fighter,these facts really made me feel disappointed about Fujitora.If you don't feel the same way...well...whatever.This probally pointless but:
Really find this silly ,we already know bunch devil fruits than cant simply be overcome with power.
Since Perona can beat majority(hypothetically) of people in one piece universe with her power is she top dog, the one with highest of power levels then?
X>Y so Y shouldnt bother because X power level is bigger… this kinda talk doenst really belong here.I don't known what do you mean by "power"…but unless you're forgetting about Haki,I doubt that Perona would stand a chance against any top dog in the new world. Or are you implying that her ghosts would actually work on someone like Rayleigh or Shanks,for example?
So yeah...in this particular case...this kinda talk kinda seems to belong here. -
I find fuji intresting and i hope we get some more back story on him.
Compare to the other admirals he was not brought up in the marine system so i wonder what he was doing before .
It also good that we finaly have a high ranking marine trying to change the world system . -
About the DD's shades. What if one day Kaidou got his smile Dfs 1 day late and he took out one of DD's eyes? No wonder DD is scared, imagine what he will do to him when we won't provide him smiles at all.
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I hope doflamingo's eyes won't end up like jango's eyes (same shape as glasses)
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Plot twist: his sunglasses are so indestructible bc they ate the string string fruit. Why doggy never takes them off, even when he's inside
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Sorry…you just raised some points that doesn't change the facts that I stated...at all.
FACT 1:Fujitora CANNOT stop the birdcage.Period.
FACT 2:Fujitora is relying on a pirate instead of facing a rampaging-out-of-control Doflamingo himself.Why isn't Luffy pushing the birdcage instead of him besides mere plot convenience?
Now,look:how readers react to these facts is up to them.Frankly,considering that an admiral is supposed to be the ultimate marine fighter,these facts really made me feel disappointed about Fujitora.If you don't feel the same way...well...whatever.I don't known what do you mean by "power"...but unless you're forgetting about Haki,I doubt that Perona would stand a chance against any top dog in the new world. Or are you implying that her ghosts would actually work on someone like Rayleigh or Shanks,for example?
So yeah...in this particular case...this kinda talk kinda seems to belong here.fact 1 not a fact lmao
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Plot Twist: Rebecca will become the next Pirate Queen
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CP0 is taking a coffee in the underground.
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I know Blackbeard is supposed to be the greater threat, but I cant imagine him being as sadistic as Doflamingo.
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I think Oda is trying to show that Celestial Dragons are much worse than pirates
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Indeed, it would be like one of those brutal beatings from Vagabond.
So, any thoughts on what the 1 hit KO move could be? I'm hoping for a (jet) king punch like move.
After showing off Gear Fourth being something that can push back even Doflamingo I think that Oda really should show off more of Luffys "basic power".
I hope for Gear Third move where Luffy curshes enemy between his G3 fists comming from both sides.
! Gomu Gomu no Kane Gattling(gattling done with head) would be funny way to finish off some lesser villain in future - I hope to see it one day
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I can honestly say that having him go with the sanji group would've been great … BM, fuji and SH, that's a great triple threat. But on the other hand, he's been a great character all in all and has fulfilled his objective in this arc which is letting his intentions known and showing his strenght.
first of all, doffy is probably the second strongest shichi (assuming mihawk is the top badass). second, they never had a legit 1 v 1 encounter (not taking into account the bitch kick of doffy) to determine their strength. Third, in OP
we don't have something called a power level between characters although haki is now becoming sorta a power level. Luffy beat enel and crocodile who stood up to akainu and SURVIVED. 4th (i'm getting tired) there might be a
legit reason why BC is so op, maybe it's made of seastone as it can't cut the factory. 5th, we can postulate that sabo is stronger than luffy (based solely on him being the 2nd after luffy's dad and that he beat ace 51 v 49 when they
were kids.
Ace won more times I believe you have it the other way around.
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After showing off Gear Fourth being something that can push back even Doflamingo I think that Oda really should show off more of Luffys "basic power".
I hope for Gear Third move where Luffy curshes enemy between his G3 fists comming from both sides.
! Gomu Gomu no Kane Gattling(gattling done with head) would be funny way to finish off some lesser villain in future - I hope to see it one day
Gomu Gomu no Guillotine!
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I really don't care about Luffy /Doffy fight anymore. I just want to see what happen all around the world at the end of the arc. I think this is the best part of the manga everytime an arc ends.
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