I wonder why Zoro don't just cut the hell of Mingo? think Zoro! think!
Because Luffy claimed Doflamingo for his own.
I wonder why Zoro don't just cut the hell of Mingo? think Zoro! think!
Because Luffy claimed Doflamingo for his own.
I wonder why Zoro don't just cut the hell of Mingo? think Zoro! think!
It's too early for Zoro to end up like this:
@DHL:
I'm still waiting for the unavoidable cliffhanger next chapter before break.
Luffy stops moving when he goes to finish off Doflamingo.
Pleaseeeeeee Oda
Perhaps the break is next week? I've read Manga Panda before, then when rereading the chapter through Manga Stream later, I find out that there's a break. It would be better if it's next week, as this chapter we got a look at what everyone is doing, and the tension comes from the last page, with 3 minutes left of the bird cage count down, and 4 minutes for Luffy to recover. It would be somewhat of a cliff hanger, but not nearly as bad compared to some others.
I wonder why Zoro don't just cut the hell of Mingo? think Zoro! think!
It was well established during the Mihawk battle in the East Blue that they don't interrupt each others fight unless one is 100% down for the count (by the fact that Luffy didn't go after Mihawk until Zoro was given the killer blow). Luffy needs a little break, so Zoro is doing something that wouldn't be butting into the fight.
I never understood why Zoro/Fujitora can't just slice up the birdcage. It's not seastone or embedded with haki, so Zoro should easily be able to slice through it. Was it ever stated why he can't do that?
I never understood why Zoro/Fujitora can't just slice up the birdcage. It's not seastone or embedded with haki, so Zoro should easily be able to slice through it. Was it ever stated why he can't do that?
I thought about that too…
Real reason: Oda wants it to be all on Luffy's shoulders
Fill-your-own-plot-hole reason: One opening, possibly which would regenerate anyway, wouldn't get everyone out
It's like asking why Doflamingo doesn't control Luffy like he did Riku, why Law didn't cut Doflamingo up like he did Vergo, etc... just gotta mentally fill your own plot holes and imagine that the plan wouldn't work somehow
I never understood why Zoro/Fujitora can't just slice up the birdcage. It's not seastone or embedded with haki, so Zoro should easily be able to slice through it. Was it ever stated why he can't do that?
Because it is probably imbued with haki, or just too hard to be cut..
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I really hope luffy's last attempted will be stop by a parasaito and we at least see that it is ineffective and why... because luffy winning without Dofla even once trying one of his best moves would be really bad on oda's part
I never understood why Zoro/Fujitora can't just slice up the birdcage. It's not seastone or embedded with haki, so Zoro should easily be able to slice through it. Was it ever stated why he can't do that?
If Law can't cut Doflamingo's strings with his abilities(Law easily cut Sea Stones) then I don't see Zoro can cut the Bird Cage
Still 4 minutes… and this arc will be over.
Tired Luffy looks like Chopper after Monster point. What will happen if he use a rumble ball? :sly:
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If Law can't cut Doflamingo's strings with his abilities(Law easily cut Sea Stones) then I don't see Zoro can cut the Bird Cage
Yeah, probably just strong haki, much like vergo was convinced that his would defend him from law's power
Zoro just said "there's nothing I can't cut"… but cutting a few strings, possibly which would regenerate, isn't guaranteed to save a country
Zoro just said "there's nothing I can't cut"… but cutting a few strings, possibly which would regenerate, isn't guaranteed to save a country
Zoro says a lot of things…
I never understood why Zoro/Fujitora can't just slice up the birdcage. It's not seastone or embedded with haki, so Zoro should easily be able to slice through it. Was it ever stated why he can't do that?
The strings can cut meteors apart , drag along a indestructible tower with easy , pushing back zoro with his sword cover in haki .
It going to hard to take down plus cutting a piece don't mean it going stop coming or fall apart.
Zoro just said "there's nothing I can't cut"… but cutting a few strings, possibly which would regenerate, isn't guaranteed to save a country
It's just talk and unless he's seen cutting something like Sea stone or the Bird Cage then I'll believe him
So the princess only heals Law's arm but then goes on to heal other people? Holy Deus Ex Machina Batman… I still find the idea of Zoro not being able to cut it absolutely dumb beyond doubt. The amount of things happening so Luffy can do everything and be the 'hero' the King screams out through the microphone to his people is quite impressive...
Solid chapter if you let all that stuff go past you. Like a typical Marvel movie.
The Blackbeard pirates sure do have a lot of endurance. When they met Ace on Banaro Island, I remember Blackbeard specifically telling Burgess not to fight Ace because he wasn't strong enough. The current Sabo is most probably stronger than Ace was back then, and has Ace's fruit. So Burgess has to have made progress to be able to fight on par with Sabo. I hope Burgess causes Sabo some serious damage, and finally gives the Blackbeard pirates a formidable name, because so far all we know is that they take big shots but keep coming back for more. Nothing too serious from them on the offensive except what we've seen from Blackbeard and that sweet sniper shot on that seagull from Van Augur at Jaya.
Don't know why people feel that the bird cage should be easy to cut .
It's the same strings that we see doing a whole bunch of crazy stuff including blocking law attacks that can cut a mountain apart .
And as this chapter shows don is still in direct control of them .
Cutting or not cutting it isn't even relevant, it's the overly large size of the birdcage (and its possible ability to regenerate) that keeps some snip snipping from saving a country, so it doesn't really matter
That chapter was much better than I thought!
I'll admit, having Sabo interact with his brother brought him up a few steps on my like list. I still want Burgess to elbow him in the face though, he's gotten the short stick this arc and deserves better. Hopefully something will turn out before the end. The rest of the chapter was great. Everyone comes down to help out and do their best, Doffy's being absolutely terrifying, Franky and Zoro are being the characters they are and trying their best to stop the birdcage without any of the "I'm way above you" attitude they've had at points previously during the post time-skip arcs.
And Fuji had a question mark over his head. Is he finally going to do something?
I'll take things back, this wasn't a great chapter, it was amazing. It's a bit like Law's flashback, it's feeling like classic One Piece.
Ahhh hello Zoro's haki nice to see you finally, even if we already knew you existed. They showed us the blackened form of it, wasn't sure if he had that or not. Also when he said, "I can't stop this on my own… at least, with the strength of one man." Zoro what exactly are you hiding from us do you have some ability to increase your strength by some unknown number. Did Bartholomeo combine his barrier with an attack? Hmmm I guess it is possible just never thought of it.
If Law can't cut Doflamingo's strings with his abilities(Law easily cut Sea Stones) then I don't see Zoro can cut the Bird Cage
Law has never attempted to cut DD's strings.
Hmm, if Mansherry were to use her ability on Luffy I wonder if he'd be able to immediately jump back into the fray.
Also I wonder where Rebecca is running off to.
i doubt it. Mansherry's fruit is limited to healing physical injuries only and Luffy needs his haki in order to take Doflamingo down. Speaking of dwarves. . . I wonder if the the sparkles that Fuji senses are the dwarves heading towards the central point of the birdcage. Could the dwarves jam the birdcage if they wedge some seastone in-between the strings of the shrinking birdcage?
I wonder if the sparkles are CP-0 doing … I mean just in case they were still in Dressrosa that is
Manshelly is lost, so I'm keeping with those "things" in the sky being the Restoration in action.
If beating Doula is how the Cage will dissapear, how in the 7 kingdoms Zoro end up fighting the cage instead of finishing off Doula, this dude..
Cabbage wasn't around either, wonder if he will try something… Or Barto....or Sai... Or Maynard.. Or someome should do something, Why wating on Luffy when there are people there capable of taking down weakened Doula:getlost:
Cause the main star always needs to shine brighter…or at least bright enough to Fujitora see it.
@Yamato:
I wonder if the sparkles are CP-0 doing … I mean just in case they were still in Dressrosa that is
If they're not going around searching for intel then they're probably observing Doflamingo ready to silence him in case if he starts spewing out anything about the secret. Just a guess.
Law has never attempted to cut DD's strings.
pretty stupid of him not attempting to cut it, or maybe he can't really do it:ninja:
and there are countless of times Law's swords clashed with DD's strings
Bu bu but burgess is so much stronger than sabo! Why is he already losing right off the bat? It's almost like sabo is stronger than a yonkous commander?!? What no way that's impossible. Oh wait no on the contrary it's quite plausible and its true
I don't know why people assume that being a yonko commander means you are some super unstopable machine. Sure Marco , Jozu and Vista were good but the rest of the Whitebeard Commander weren't all that impressive. And Burgess got owned like a little bitch from Ace just a few years ago. At time he was about as strong as a straw hat and considering his age that wasn't an impressive achivment
Oh man, just that one panel. I have a feeling Law has something effective planned up his sleeve just to screw over Flamingo.
And those sparkles is Mansherry's DF awakened where she can make "healing rain/snow whatever" O.o
Holy crap, what a good chapter!
There's gotta be some factor that we've all forgotten or have not thought of yet that will slow the birdcage down for one or two extra minutes. I don't think there's anyway to get Luffy to recover faster. Someone said that Mansherry can heal his injuries but the haki more than likely has to come back on its own; which is probably true. I betcha all the townsfold are gonna grab whatever sea-prism stone items are available or whatever buildings are holding up and join in with everyone in pushing the cage back before it kills everyone. I feel like stuff like that happens a lot in One Piece where the bystanders have to take part in the fight somehow, and I like that.
I did like Luffy acknowledging/noticing Sabo ate Ace's fruit, but he's currently very weak to really hold a conversation. Worse, I feel when Luffy is fully recovered and the day is saved, Sabo will be forced to leave for his next revolutionary mission, leaving his brother alone….but hopeful.
As expected, Doflamingo is not done, and everyone's just small potatoes. Only Luffy can win (Gatz for MVP)
I'll admit I wasn't big on the crammed pages towards the end, it made everything feel congested. But I suppose that reflects the danger of the approaching Birdcage, even though the proportions of the island feel like 3 minutes is way too much time.
Yay for the Block fighters getting back up to fight, but is there a limit to Manshelly's power?
thank god this chapter shaved 6 minutes off
@mario:
thank god this chapter shaved 6 minutes off
Lol, I have to agree with that.
I'll admit from the spoilers I thought this was going to be a boring chapter, and considered reading it first out of my three main mangas. I read in this order Naruto, One Piece, Bleach. I think it would have been better to read in the following order Bleach, Naruto, One Piece.
@Yamato:
I wonder if the sparkles are CP-0 doing … I mean just in case they were still in Dressrosa that is
I bet they are still there, and if need be will break the birdcage to leave. I can't wait to see what powers and abilities they have, when on earth could the Strawhats face them. I have a feeling Luffy is going to finish the fight by punching Mingo through the birdcage.
@mario:
thank god this chapter shaved 6 minutes off
This.
Also, can someone remind me why Fuji is here again? Oda should have just introduced him after this arc was over. He's not even protecting people or helping them. Atleast help out with slowing down the birdcage. I've never seen a more useless person before lol
@The:
It was well established during the Mihawk battle in the East Blue that they don't interrupt each others fight unless one is 100% down for the count (by the fact that Luffy didn't go after Mihawk until Zoro was given the killer blow). Luffy needs a little break, so Zoro is doing something that wouldn't be butting into the fight.
While agree… This time the reason is beyond stupid... Luffy has no problem with people as Gatz and Co saving his ass.
Zoro at least could hold DoFla off from chasing him...
But you know why it won't happen... Plot reasons
Unless you know their weakness or they randomly decide to not use their natural logia defence, yeah.
Yeah, I quite like that too.
It would suck if Sabo just abandoned his old techniques to only use MM attacks.
Using his new DF abilities to enhance his existing attacks is definitely the right way to go.
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Yeah, so say there's no way to imbue long range attacks with haki...why try to hit a logia user with such an attack?
I think ya'll might be forgetting Zoro vs monet when he hit her with a color less haki attack that damaged her.
On the other hand I think logia users are not immune to surprise attacks unless well trained like akainu. Remember smoker being surprise attacked by Luffy. A lariat that turns into a flying attack would definitely surprise me.
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While agree… This time the reason is beyond stupid... Luffy has no problem with people as Gatz and Co saving his ass.
Zoro at least could hold DoFla off from chasing him...
But you know why it won't happen... Plot reasons
How would Zoro even know that Luffy needs help at the moment. If anything he saw doflamingo smashed into a mountain. I would call this more trusting in Luffy/the captain.
This.
Also, can someone remind me why Fuji is here again? Oda should have just introduced him after this arc was over. He's not even protecting people or helping them. Atleast help out with slowing down the birdcage. I've never seen a more useless person before lol
He save a child in the 2 chapters ago and has been showed helping or giving orders to help people more than once before .
How many times does Oda has to show him doing something ?
I think ya'll might be forgetting Zoro vs monet when he hit her with a color less haki attack that damaged her.
On the other hand I think logia users are not immune to surprise attacks unless well trained like akainu. Remember smoker being surprise attacked by Luffy. A lariat that turns into a flying attack would definitely surprise me.
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How would Zoro even know that Luffy needs help at the moment. If anything he saw doflamingo smashed into a mountain. I would call this more trusting in Luffy/the captain.
Ehm… Let me see... Law was able to tell Luffy is losing haki. He sees DoFla on a rampage through the city (Look at the panels in this chapter) and no Luffy in sight... He should realize it as well
And yeah maybe he isn't seeing it... But what about the others... Why isn't Gatz running towards them for help. No one can tell me that NO ONE of the "bigger" players is able to help out
Becca is going to land the final blow on Doffy killing him I bet. Or Doffy is about to go after her one or the other. Hopefully the former.
I think Sabo smiling in a heartfelt manner for the first time since his re-introduction is probably the best moment from the chapter. It's just one panel, but it does more for the chapter than any cool looking action shot Oda has given him so far. Having him not smiling in a smirk manner but with honesty is such a change of pace that I wonder why Oda decided to go the slightly smug, half psycho smile Sabo instead of playful and cheerful Sabo.
Oda is giving Sabo plenty of cool looking shots, and I appreciate that he has his own fighting style even after eating the fire fruit. It seems he's gonna dominate Burgess, but the BB Commander is not going down without a fight, I like that. Even after being sent flying across the city, he's still on the offense at the end of the chapter, good for him.
The side content was good, but the main event, Luffy vs. Doffy, seems to be losing relevance bit by bit. At this point it seems like Oda is more invested in the Birdcage and how everyone could potentially work togheter to stop it than the inevitable Doflamingo defeat as soon as Luffy regains his strength.
And visually, this was again a chapter that shone pretty bright. It's the second chapter in a row where I find the visual elements to be above the content that's being represented.
Pretty decent stuff.
Ehm… Let me see... Law was able to tell Luffy is losing haki. He sees DoFla on a rampage through the city (Look at the panels in this chapter) and no Luffy in sight... He should realize it as well
And yeah maybe he isn't seeing it... But what about the others... Why isn't Gatz running towards them for help. No one can tell me that NO ONE of the "bigger" players is able to help out
That depends on what you call a bigger player cause IMO i only see 3 that could take down don .
That depends on what you call a bigger player cause IMO i only see 3 that could take down don .
Don is already fucked up. And even if Kyros, Bartolome, the Dons and Co aren't able to beat himm I still think they could buy way more time as fodder gladiators.
Don is already fucked up. And even if Kyros, Bartolome, the Dons and Co aren't able to beat himm I still think they could buy way more time as fodder gladiators.
Are you forgetting that just a short while ago some of those guys were fuck up and who knows how far there are from luffy .
Are you forgetting that just a short while ago some of those guys were fuck up and who knows how far there are from luffy .
And did you miss they have been "healed"… And Gatz should search for them. But maybe he will
Back to the "sparks"
I still think the sparkles are this
!
Some people maybe found a way through birdcage… Maybe at the top there is some opening for whatever reasons...
But who?
In my dreams... SHs + Law's crew... CC is able to make a baloon for everyone and Sanji can Skywalk.
But wait... Naaaah who am I kidding. Dunno what the fuck it is
Ehm… Let me see... Law was able to tell Luffy is losing haki. He sees DoFla on a rampage through the city (Look at the panels in this chapter) and no Luffy in sight... He should realize it as well
And yeah maybe he isn't seeing it... But what about the others... Why isn't Gatz running towards them for help. No one can tell me that NO ONE of the "bigger" players is able to help out
Zoro left the center of the city long time ago to try and stop Birdcage. He has no idea what is going on. Law is able to see because he's at higher level.
Really my only thing to say with Zoro and some of the others is that they have other things they can do. Zoro along with Kanjuro and Kinimono can only slow down one part, Franky and dwarves another part. I see Sai and the others going to another side to slow things down, with Fujitora and marines slowing down another side. The other gladiators are there to slow down Doflamingo, which they were successful enough. Zoro could of possibly been one to slow Doflamingo down, but it depends on where he is at in comparison to the battle field. Also, Zoro would've gotten lost trying to get to Doflamingo, and part of me expects even delaying Doflamingo he would've considered barging in.
I think it comes down to the fact the bird cage is a good idea in theory, but with all the other stuff going on, it becomes a bit questionable why some characters aren't doing things as well. It does come down more to lets let Luffy just finish him off because.
They should totally round up civilians and put them in the Factory if they want to keep people from dying. Guess no one thought of that.
And did you miss they have been "healed"… And Gatz should search for them. But maybe he will
They were heal but how long ago .
Also they now come from the upper floors and now near in front of the palace.
How far is gatz from them ?
He save a child in the 2 chapters ago and has been showed helping or giving orders to help people more than once before .
How many times does Oda has to show him doing something ?
Then he should focus a couple pages on that instead of panels. I even forgot he did that. He at the very least should be trying to do something about the cage since all his soldiers should be helping people out.
Not a bad chapter. Burgess and Sabo's little clash was cool, I like Zoro trying to stop the birdcage (honestly a more epic moment than him defeating Pica IMO), and Doflamingo is pissed. I know that all we're gonna get is one final attack from Luffy to take out Doflamingo, but at this point I've pretty much accepted that this arc isn't gonna have amazing fights. Plus, Doflamingo has taken so much damage from multiple people at this point, that there's no real way for him to come out looking like a bitch (and no, that's not a challenge to prove me wrong Oda) so I'll take it.
They should totally round up civilians and put them in the Factory if they want to keep people from dying. Guess no one thought of that.
And by doing so, Doflamingo will have everyone he wants to kill in one place instead of spread everywhere. Also, amidst that chaos is very hard to gather everyone together