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      Recently I decided to start my xth reread of One Piece, but instead of powering through it like I usually do I decided to take my time reading it. Having only finished the 2nd volume, I feel that much discussion has been missed by those who weren't able to discuss the series from the start. So I thought perhaps it would be good to start a thread to discuss the series starting from its humble beginnings.

      Originally I was thinking of making a schedule of what parts to read and discuss in a group, but just reading the first two volumes made me decide that was a bad idea. Instead, we just start with the first chapter, and let the discussion flow naturally. We can talk about what we think about individual chapters, how we think they connect to later parts, if you feel certain events were wrapped up nicely later on in the series, etc. By starting from square one, we can find out each others favorite parts, and just get an overall feeling of about the manga. With that in mind.

      The first chapter is outstanding, especially in hindsight. It's does a good job of allowing the reader to connect to Luffy and Shanks, and you get a feel of how big the world might be, and the different people inhabiting it. The mayor doesn't mind Shanks crew, but he is a rare crew that doesn't rob people. You have the mountain bandits which we find out much later were the kind of people that took care of Luffy. We learn about the Devil Fruits which gets the readers excited to see what kind of other powers might exist in the world. A bigger part is that we get a mysterious part of Shanks, who scared off a giant fish with a stare (which we find out later is CoC). From what I read, it seemed like he didn't know how to use it quite yet. The chapter ends quite nicely with Luffy having learned to control his powers, and takes out the fish that almost killed him years before.

      One thing that I realized reading this time around is the similarity of the events that happened in Jaya. Both had a bar scene in which Shanks/Luffy get belittled and hit by a bottle of alcohol. They do nothing about it and just take it. Shanks/Luffy is only spurred into action when a friend was put in danger. They both have a big moment at the end by effortlessly taking down the thing that endangered their friend. It really shows how much Luffy came to be like Shanks.

      One other thing that felt like similar events showing characters growing was Luffy/Coby with Alvida then Shanks/Coby with Akainu. Luffy befriends Coby who was a coward, but gets a burst of strength to no longer grovel. At the end of Marineford, Coby stands up and proclaims that the fighting should stop, despite the threat of Akainu nearby. With Akainu, Coby seemed less frightened with his fate then with Alvida. However, like with Alvida, he gets saved at the last second, but by Shanks instead of Luffy.

      It's really cool to see some early stuff have some kind of comeback later on to show character growth. Also, lots of small moments in the beginning have more impact when you make those connections to later arcs.

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        This is an extremely cool idea, I've been meaning to give one piece another reread for sometime now without just blasting through it and skipping certain parts. I believe last time I ended up watching certain arcs rather than reading it, this time I want to do it authentically, and read every part strictly from the manga.

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          One other thing that felt like similar events showing characters growing was Luffy/Coby with Alvida then Shanks/Coby with Akainu. Luffy befriends Coby who was a coward, but gets a burst of strength to no longer grovel. At the end of Marineford, Coby stands up and proclaims that the fighting should stop, despite the threat of Akainu nearby. With Akainu, Coby seemed less frightened with his fate then with Alvida. However, like with Alvida, he gets saved at the last second, but by Shanks instead of Luffy.

          When i discovered that Coby stood up both times against his enemies by stating his beliefs, i was really moved by it, and i still consider Coby's speech at marineford one of the best moments ever. Naturally it's nearly impossible to remember such a thing if you read it weekly since chapter 1, or chapter 200, or many years before. Only when you re-read the confrontation between Coby and Alvida you remember that he did it too with Akainu (since it's the more memorable of the two), and i'm still amazed that Oda followed this development through more than 550 chapters.

          Another thing that i noticed only by re-reading, is the foreshadowing about the Sun pirates splitting that was fully explained only 600 chapters later.

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            @The:

            One thing that I realized reading this time around is the similarity of the events that happened in Jaya. Both had a bar scene in which Shanks/Luffy get belittled and hit by a bottle of alcohol. They do nothing about it and just take it. Shanks/Luffy is only spurred into action when a friend was put in danger. They both have a big moment at the end by effortlessly taking down the thing that endangered their friend. It really shows how much Luffy came to be like Shanks.

            In this context, the moment where Shanks says that he won't forgive anyone who messes around with his friends deserves a special mention. It is a very powerful moment establishing one of the leitmotifs of the series. And looking at Luffy's reaction you can see how it was a character defining moment for him. Just so awesome!

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              @Yobiyopi:

              When i discovered that Coby stood up both times against his enemies by stating his beliefs, i was really moved by it, and i still consider Coby's speech at marineford one of the best moments ever. Naturally it's nearly impossible to remember such a thing if you read it weekly since chapter 1, or chapter 200, or many years before. Only when you re-read the confrontation between Coby and Alvida you remember that he did it too with Akainu (since it's the more memorable of the two), and i'm still amazed that Oda followed this development through more than 550 chapters.

              Another thing that i noticed only by re-reading, is the foreshadowing about the Sun pirates splitting that was fully explained only 600 chapters later.

              I blasted through the Manga, so I did get to certain points with earlier chapters still fresh, but those smaller moments evaded me for the longest time. The Buggy stuff in volume two is actually quite good, especially when I take my time to read each chapter and appreciate those small moments. It really establishes the idea of personal treasures, and that many people have non gold treasures, which goes through the series. Despite being silly, Buggy managed to be shown as threatening and one you didn't want to mess with.

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              In this context, the moment where Shanks says that he won't forgive anyone who messes around with his friends deserves a special mention. It is a very powerful moment establishing one of the leitmotifs of the series. And looking at Luffy's reaction you can see how it was a character defining moment for him. Just so awesome!

              After rereading the first chapter this time, I won't ever dismiss it as just an opening chapter. It has a lot of relevance even this far into the series. It also makes you appreciate the few moments you get to see Shanks throughout the series, as you just want to see more of him.

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                Funnilly enough, I found it the first chapters of One Piece and Boku no Hero Academia very similar.

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                  I been buying the volumes little by little, I don't know when I'm going to catch up but I hope it's soon, I don't plan on reading them until then.

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                    Funnilly enough, I found it the first chapters of One Piece and Boku no Hero Academia very similar.

                    I probably would have taken interested in Boku no Hero Academia if it had taken place in a fictional world. Oh well

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                      Speaking of things in the first volume, I find it really interesting how there's a marine mentioning pirates infiltrating their ranks. But then we never hear of such a thing ever again…until more than 700 chapters later with Vergo.

                      Also Shellstown's characters imo show very much of how Oda remembers his universe. Side characters couldn't nearly get as much attention than in OP nowadays, but guys like Ripper and even Rokkaku (the one Morgan slashed down) are still to be seen in From the Decks of the World. I mean, they're so minor, you would never see them again in any other series I know.

                      I also like how the scene in the first chapter, where Luffy sets off, has gained much more meaning with the stuff we learn much later in the story. We now know that Dadan was watching and what Luffy really thought during his setoff (about Sabo & Ace).

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                        The introduction of Zoro really showed how factions don't matter when it comes to who is good and who is not. You have a bounty hunter who acts cold but is a nice person deep down, but a marine captain who is supposed to be on the good side abuses his status and cuts anyone down who dares not listen to him. I liked how before Zoro gets his supposed execution, we get a nice little backstory about him which while simple, has some nice depth. He never got to take on his rival and win, and he decides that he will honor her by becoming the best swordsman ever. This might be why Zoro gets really annoyed with Tashigi, that she looks like Kuina, but doesn't live up to what he imagined her becoming, so he looks down on her.

                        The scene which Zoro cuts down Morgan while Luffy punches Helmeppo is a nice way of showing how they have each others backs, which comes up again in Thriller Bark (also in general how the crew has each others backs). Interestingly enough, Zoro claimed that if he ever doubted his chances of becoming the best swordsman, he would leave. In Thriller Bark, he was willing to risk his life to help Luffy. Shows that Zoro got beyond just his dream, and is willing to sacrifice himself for others.

                        The best part of the little arc was how the Marines gave Luffy and Zoro a farewell and were willing to ignore Coby's connection to pirates. It was a nice little touch to give depth to a character that was only around for a few chapters with minimal lines. It once again reinforced that factions don't matter when it comes to who is good and who is bad. The punishment was a nice touch, showing that while they are lenient, they still have to follow the rules.

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                          On hindsight, the chapters with Laboon and Crocus feel really weird. Like, it's so out of place, even 700000000 chapters later.

                          Like, crocus lives on a boat inside laboon, and there's hallways and corridors and metal pipes running along Laboon's veins? Vivi's is totally different, and catching a whale for food seems like a completely unnecessary thing for Baroque works to do

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                            @Ordinary:

                            On hindsight, the chapters with Laboon and Crocus feel really weird. Like, it's so out of place, even 700000000 chapters later.

                            Like, crocus lives on a boat inside laboon, and there's hallways and corridors and metal pipes running along Laboon's veins? Vivi's is totally different, and catching a whale for food seems like a completely unnecessary thing for Baroque works to do

                            I guess Oda wanted to introduce Vivi at Reverse Mountain rather then wait until Whiskey Peak plus Oda felt that there should be an antigonist in this arc. And yeah the whole thing is out of place but what better idea can you do?

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                              The introduction of Zoro really showed how factions don't matter when it comes to who is good and who is not. You have a bounty hunter who acts cold but is a nice person deep down, but a marine captain who is supposed to be on the good side abuses his status and cuts anyone down who dares not listen to him. I liked how before Zoro gets his supposed execution, we get a nice little backstory about him which while simple, has some nice depth. He never got to take on his rival and win, and he decides that he will honor her by becoming the best swordsman ever. This might be why Zoro gets really annoyed with Tashigi, that she looks like Kuina, but doesn't live up to what he imagined her becoming, so he looks down on her.

                              The scene which Zoro cuts down Morgan while Luffy punches Helmeppo is a nice way of showing how they have each others backs, which comes up again in Thriller Bark (also in general how the crew has each others backs). Interestingly enough, Zoro claimed that if he ever doubted his chances of becoming the best swordsman, he would leave. In Thriller Bark, he was willing to risk his life to help Luffy. Shows that Zoro got beyond just his dream, and is willing to sacrifice himself for others.

                              The best part of the little arc was how the Marines gave Luffy and Zoro a farewell and were willing to ignore Coby's connection to pirates. It was a nice little touch to give depth to a character that was only around for a few chapters with minimal lines. It once again reinforced that factions don't matter when it comes to who is good and who is bad. The punishment was a nice touch, showing that while they are lenient, they still have to follow the rules.

                              I did my re read last year but what I really enjoyed about this point in the story is how Luffy, an outlaw who's constantly under attack from the Marines and World Government who will become the King of The Pirates indirectly planted the seed (Coby) that's going to eventually reform the entire organization.
                              Also I really enjoyed that Helmeppo was pretty terrible but not an evil person like his father.

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                                Very nice thread.

                                I wonder when it "catches some flow" so there will be longer discussions on single subject.

                                As for my exprience with re-reading - its far easier to do it with online scans. Reading volumes is far more awesome than online relases for a number of reasons(like reading hand written letter compared to email on pc screen- at least for me, a lot more details, great shading giving on paper feeling like drawings are more 3D than online cleaned scans) but at same time its not as easy to dig through them as when person checks online scans.

                                Reading One Piece in volume format makes experience far better when it comes to pacing and enjoying art and Dressrosa is quite great in paper format but there isnt much of it in english translated volumes.

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                                  @springsring:

                                  I did my re read last year but what I really enjoyed about this point in the story is how Luffy, an outlaw who's constantly under attack from the Marines and World Government who will become the King of The Pirates indirectly planted the seed (Coby) that's going to eventually reform the entire organization.
                                  Also I really enjoyed that Helmeppo was pretty terrible but not an evil person like his father.

                                  Interesting thought there. If Marineford is anything to go by, Luffy will have to fight Coby when the second war against the Marines happens. It will be interesting because we might see Coby conflicted to fight his friend, but determined to be a marine in order to reform it. Perhaps when Luffy becomes Pirate King, Coby will be high up in the ranks and work together with Luffy to keep order in the world. Both Pirates and Marines keep the bad apples away from the people.

                                  @sabinis:

                                  Very nice thread.

                                  I wonder when it "catches some flow" so there will be longer discussions on single subject.

                                  As for my exprience with re-reading - its far easier to do it with online scans. Reading volumes is far more awesome than online relases for a number of reasons(like reading hand written letter compared to email on pc screen- at least for me, a lot more details, great shading giving on paper feeling like drawings are more 3D than online cleaned scans) but at same time its not as easy to dig through them as when person checks online scans.

                                  Reading One Piece in volume format makes experience far better when it comes to pacing and enjoying art and Dressrosa is quite great in paper format but there isnt much of it in english translated volumes.

                                  I do hope it catches on at some point. I really feel that it could bring some great discussions, many which I didn't get to have when reading through for the first time. Also, with a lot of the negativity with the current stuff, I felt bringing out this topic could allow others to remember times they liked and discuss why they got into the series.

                                  Reading in volume format is better overall. The only down side is like how I usually would read the volumes, in which I fly through a volume in a short time and not notice the details. Now having read the series weekly for a while now (about 5 years now), I have learned to take my time with each chapter. Enjoying a single chapter and being able to go straight to the next chapter to enjoy.

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                                    Well I've watched the anime but I'm still very new to the Manga. I'm currently at Volume 15. So it would be nice to actually discuss the manga with people.

                                    Edit: Hmmm foreshadowing with Blackbeard on Drum Island

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                                      Something I just thought of for Volume 2 with Nami. We see her tie up Luffy and take him to Buggy and pretends to join his crew. In this case she was using Luffy to sneak in, get the map, and then leave. We get something like this again later, where she temporarily joins someone else. In Skypea, she takes Enels offer to join him. In this case, Nami is doing it for pure survival instincts, as everyone was effortlessly taken out by Enel, so she stood no chance. Both times because of Luffy, she blows her cover and gets in danger herself for a bit. In both cases she also helps Luffy in some way. Tying up Buggy and helping Luffy get back up to Enels ship. In the latter case, she actively goes into danger, where as the former she just helps at the end.

                                      Another thing I noticed was the hand clap they gave each other when Nami decides to join Luffy for the time being. It reminded me the same thing when Luffy told Nami he would carry her up Drum Mountain to the witch doctor. It's like a secret hand shake they have, and shows that Nami is willing to go with Luffy's craziness.

                                      One other thing of note was Nami stating she only steals from Pirates. Two thoughts came up when she said that. One, after the Arlong Park stuff, she steals from everybody as she heads to the ship. It could symbolize the fact that she doesn't mind being a pirate, and that stealing from her home town is also a sign of affection. The other part was with Lola on Thriller Bark, where she gives a pirate some treasure. While a gag, it was some nice depth added to Nami that she gave a pirate treasure, instead of stealing.

                                      Volume 2 did a good job of introducing Nami, which would be really effective later for Arlong Park. It also once again reinforced the idea that the concept of good and bad is not clear cut, which expands more as time goes on in the series.

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                                        Gah, I just did a reread of the Manga last year :ninja: Well, to be honest, Im not the biggest fan of early One Piece. I think it takes Oda some time before he finds the right tone for his story. The jokes, for example, just dont seem as funny yet for some reason, and the artwork, of course is not nearly as beautiful (Luffys face looks so weird at times) Its hard to really pinpoint why I don`t enjoy it yet quite as much. That said, the very first chapter is brilliant and gets everything right. The major themes of One Piece are already there. Shanks and his crew are simply amazing and I love how they deal with the Mountain bandits. Shanks saving Luffy and sacrificing his arm is very moving, and when he puts the Strawhat on Luffys hat, it really feels like the dawn of a great adventure. Really a great start for the series. The rest of the early stuff is alright, but the arcs seem a little too simple and straightforward. What Oda excels at even this early on though is creating fun characters. Zoro, Coby, Nami, Buggy and of course Luffy take you in immediately. Rereading the very early arcs, it is interesting to watch Oda slowly come into his own. Both the Kuro and the Baratie arc are already more complex and interesting storywise, and at the time Luffy and co. arrive at Arlong Park, it has turned into the masterpiece we all know and love.

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                                          I am wanna do a re-read of the entire series but i'm just waiting for Dressrosa arc to end and for Powermanga to release the good translated scans so i can read all of Dressrosa arc in my marathon .

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                                            Well, after nine years of weekly lurking in this forum, I've decided to post 👅

                                            Recently, I got my hands on the first boxset of the Viz version of the manga, and started re-reading it (just ended the Little Garden arc). So far it has been an interesting experience: there is a LOT of foreshadowing on the earlier volumes of OP, and it's nice to discover details previously missed by me (e.g. bounties dropping 30% if the wanted pirate is killed, or Miss Goldenweek not being an ability user). I've noticed many things that are worth re-discussing, but that would rush this thread, so I'll stick to the idea of starting with the first two volumes, for now.

                                            IMHO, every fan of the series should try the experience of a throughout re-reading. Its "taste" will be better.

                                            (Excuse me for any error in the text, english is not my mother language).

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                                              Well, after nine years of weekly lurking in this forum, I've decided to post 👅

                                              Recently, I got my hands on the first boxset of the Viz version of the manga, and started re-reading it (just ended the Little Garden arc). So far it has been an interesting experience: there is a LOT of foreshadowing on the earlier volumes of OP, and it's nice to discover details previously missed by me (e.g. bounties dropping 30% if the wanted pirate is killed, or Miss Goldenweek not being an ability user). I've noticed many things that are worth re-discussing, but that would rush this thread, so I'll stick to the idea of starting with the first two volumes, for now.

                                              IMHO, every fan of the series should try the experience of a throughout re-reading. Its "taste" will be better.

                                              (Excuse me for any error in the text, english is not my mother language).

                                              I'm going to take that as a victory then🆒

                                              Some series don't really add anything when going through again, but One Piece always does for me. Many times I learn something new when I do again, such as on my third re-read I figured out Akainu was actually first shown in the Robin flashback. Overall, you can appreciate things that come up way later, or scenes that are quite similar later on.

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                                                On my last reread of Thriller Bark I thought of something:

                                                Doffy: "I will forgive you…with your death!"
                                                Brook: "Death isn't an apology!" 🆒

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                                                  I'm really glad that Oda didn't went with the easy route of a tournament early on, considering that he could have done it without any problem like an island with a random "East Blue Tournament" kinda thing.

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                                                    I've just started a re-read and I must say the colorized version really helps me notice certain details more.

                                                    One thing I'm going to enjoy is seeing Miss All Sunday. 🆒

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                                                      On hindsight, the chapters with Laboon and Crocus feel really weird. Like, it's so out of place, even 700000000 chapters later.

                                                      Like, crocus lives on a boat inside laboon, and there's hallways and corridors and metal pipes running along Laboon's veins? Vivi's is totally different, and catching a whale for food seems like a completely unnecessary thing for Baroque works to do

                                                      Regarding that issue, that's basically cause Vivi as a character was created after Twin Cape. It's on sandman's Oda's interviews thread:

                                                      "When Vivi appeared for the first time, Oda didn't have the intention of her being princess.
                                                      She would have been just defeated by strawhats and made her exit."

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                                                        I'm going to take that as a victory then🆒

                                                        Yes, you can say that 👅

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                                                        Some series don't really add anything when going through again, but One Piece always does for me. Many times I learn something new when I do again, such as on my third re-read I figured out Akainu was actually first shown in the Robin flashback. Overall, you can appreciate things that come up way later, or scenes that are quite similar later on.

                                                        Well, I think that when you deal with a fictional universe with the level of complexity that One Piece has, you will always miss some details the first time you read it. Once your eyes grow "accustomed" to Oda's storytelling, you'll be more alert to details the second time you read the chapters.

                                                        Another important point regarding missed stuff is related to the translations. When you read a horrible, low level translated chapter ever week, of course you'll miss (or misunderstand) some relevant dialogue.

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                                                          I just had a crazy theory. So I just read the chapter with Gaiman in it. During the flashback, we see the back of the captain, but not his face. We see what some of the crew looks like. That was 20 years ago at the time of the Manga. The island was full of crazy animals, with animals being hybrids.

                                                          What if Gaimans captain was Kaido? I could totally see Oda making the small connections for Gaiman being part of the crew in their early years.

                                                          Another thing with Gaiman was that he claimed to be a boxer when he was younger. Gaiman had an Afro. Guess what that connects to.

                                                          Also, the Buggy fight was a great way to show how Devil Fruit user battles could work. Showing how powers could be tricky when fighting opponents, like Foxy later on, but could be used for comedy purposes as well.

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                                                            Well I've watched the anime but I'm still very new to the Manga. I'm currently at Volume 15. So it would be nice to actually discuss the manga with people.

                                                            Same here(Vol 21).

                                                            Calling it now. Dragon's powers from Loguetown and Gray Terminal were not the result of some Devil Fruit. It was CoC.

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                                                              This guy and his "essays" are incredible. I actually REALLY look forward to how Franky Tank makes these connections and actually makes us appreciate moments in which we thought were meaningless and shallow( quite a bit from the Dressrosa Arc).

                                                              Yes we can discuss chapter by chapter, but nothing beat reading when the chapter is released.

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                                                              On hindsight, the chapters with Laboon and Crocus feel really weird. Like, it's so out of place, even 700000000 chapters later.

                                                              Like, crocus lives on a boat inside laboon, and there's hallways and corridors and metal pipes running along Laboon's veins? Vivi's is totally different, and catching a whale for food seems like a completely unnecessary thing for Baroque works to do

                                                              It was an empty whale, too… what they would eat i don't know

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                                                                I just had a crazy theory. So I just read the chapter with Gaiman in it. During the flashback, we see the back of the captain, but not his face. We see what some of the crew looks like. That was 20 years ago at the time of the Manga. The island was full of crazy animals, with animals being hybrids.

                                                                What if Gaimans captain was Kaido? I could totally see Oda making the small connections for Gaiman being part of the crew in their early years.

                                                                Another thing with Gaiman was that he claimed to be a boxer when he was younger. Gaiman had an Afro. Guess what that connects to.

                                                                Also, the Buggy fight was a great way to show how Devil Fruit user battles could work. Showing how powers could be tricky when fighting opponents, like Foxy later on, but could be used for comedy purposes as well.

                                                                I've made a theory about it in the manga section.Nobody took it seriously.I don't even believe it anymore….The part with Kaido I mean.

                                                                In violently vociferating you violate your virility with vacuous vanity, vanguard of vileness. I visit my vengeance by vindictively vacating my vapours on your visage.

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                                                                  Ussop seems to revolve around fairy tale themes, especially with wolf stories/themes. In this arc it's the boy who cried wolf, where he is constantly lying which later the wolf (Kuro), gets his opportunity because of it. More interesting with Kuro is how he is like Usopp in a number of ways. Kuro is low key and cunning where Usopp is loud and bull rushes things. Big thing is how Usopp is shameless in his lying while Kuro is subtle and able to get people to believe his lies. You get a contrast between the two and Luffy where Luffy is honest and upfront. Keeping with the themes later, you have Usopp and the Big Bad Wolf thing going in Enes Lobby, where Usopp is deceived by the lies of the wolf. Both times Usopp has to depend on someone else to make up for his short comings. It also feels as if Usopps nose has become longer over the series, which goes well with the story of Pinnochio.

                                                                  One interesting thing that came up was during a story Usopp was telling Kaya. He mentions "cutting up a big goldfish and giving it to the little people". In the recent arc, we have fighting fish, a giant fish. There are also the dwarves, which would be the small people. Usopp was also going to say they called him "captain", where the Dwarves called him Usoland, and he got the title of God from Doflamingo. Perhaps other stories that Usopp made up will come true in some form down the line as well.

                                                                  The lying part also feels like it is foreshadowing the craziness that can and will happen. When Django comes, everyone calls Onion a liar but then see's him walking backwards towards them. It sets up the idea that nothing in this world is impossible when it comes to the people and things. This can be reinforced by the fact that Usopps outlandish stories are becoming true now as well.

                                                                  Another thing that popped in my mind was the when one of the kids claiming Luffy or the others ate Usopp, with a different one saying only Ogresses eat people. You get a joke where they call Nami an Ogress. Perhaps Oda remembered this detail, and this could be a foreshadow for Big Mom.

                                                                  One of the most interesting things about the introduction of Kuro is how different he is from most other pirates. He doesn't want fame of having a big name, or else he can't spend his fortune. He is more cunning and plans his take over (much like we get later with Crocodile). Unlike other pirates, he has very low ambitions and avoids fighting as much as possible, a direct contrast to Luffy, who dreams big and fights a lot. This is also where we start getting the theme of Luffy coming in at the right time to change events (like Alabasta and Dressrosa for example).

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                                                                  This guy and his "essays" are incredible. I actually REALLY look forward to how Franky Tank makes these connections and actually makes us appreciate moments in which we thought were meaningless and shallow( quite a bit from the Dressrosa Arc).

                                                                  Yes we can discuss chapter by chapter, but nothing beat reading when the chapter is released.

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                                                                  It was an empty whale, too... what they would eat i don't know

                                                                  You're too kind, but I'm glad someone is enjoying the stuff I put out.😁

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                                                                  I've made a theory about it in the manga section.Nobody took it seriously.I don't even believe it anymore….The part with Kaido I mean.

                                                                  I don't really believe it myself, just something crazy I thought of.

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                                                                    This guy and his "essays" are incredible. I actually REALLY look forward to how Franky Tank makes these connections and actually makes us appreciate moments in which we thought were meaningless and shallow( quite a bit from the Dressrosa Arc).

                                                                    Do you have a link to this guy and this essay?

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                                                                      Do you have a link to this guy and this essay?

                                                                      In Dressrosa thread u can find posts of his.

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                                                                        In Dressrosa thread u can find posts of his.

                                                                        I think you should link it because of then I won't have to wade through thousand of pages to find it

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                                                                          Another thing that popped in my mind was the when one of the kids claiming Luffy or the others ate Usopp, with a different one saying only Ogresses eat people. You get a joke where they call Nami an Ogress. Perhaps Oda remembered this detail, and this could be a foreshadow for Big Mom.

                                                                          This was the conclusion I made too. However is Ogress really an accurate translation from Onibaba?

                                                                          "In mad world, only the mad are sane."

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                                                                            Another thing that popped in my mind was the when one of the kids claiming Luffy or the others ate Usopp, with a different one saying only Ogresses eat people. You get a joke where they call Nami an Ogress. Perhaps Oda remembered this detail, and this could be a foreshadow for Big Mom.

                                                                            I was actually thinking of this possibility too.
                                                                            Maybe Usopp could get eaten, that could be funny.

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                                                                              I think you should link it because of then I won't have to wade through thousand of pages to find it

                                                                              Here you go.

                                                                              Those are the most recent ones I made at least. One might've been a little bit disproven with seeing how Doflamingo was made the boss. Another one is mostly just making some guesses about how the immortality operation could work. The second link might be more in line with what he was talking about.

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                                                                                I think you should link it because of then I won't have to wade through thousand of pages to find it

                                                                                Sorry i had just got on the bus and had wet hands, as it was raining and could barely reply to you.

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                                                                                Here you go.

                                                                                Those are the most recent ones I made at least. One might've been a little bit disproven with seeing how Doflamingo was made the boss. Another one is mostly just making some guesses about how the immortality operation could work. The second link might be more in line with what he was talking about.

                                                                                There was some other guy as well.. or was that Sabinis

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                                                                                  How about in the beginning of the series that Devil Fruit powers were rare instead of being common like they are now. Looking back then you can see how it confirms how weak East Blue is in comparison to the Grandline and is in pale to the New World.

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                                                                                    Something i have been wondering about is Crocs bounty why only 80 mill i don't think he would become a Warlord as fast as Hancock, and he seems to have been in NW and all which might suggest that he traveled quite a bit before becoming one… I can't wait to see him and Mr. 1 in the NW what they are doing, how strong they have become etc.

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                                                                                      The first chapter of One Piece was marvellous… I started with the anime (4Kids) on and off for a few years. Then 2008/9 I started watching the original Japanese version. Much better. I caught up quickly after I fell in love, Arlong Park arc is what solidified things for me. A few weeks later I'd caught up with the anime (Marineford arc). That's when I started reading the manga...

                                                                                      Chapter 1 was incredible and since then I thought Oda would ruin Luffy's backstory if he ever decided to go back but he crafted something amazing. The way it just fit seemingly between the end of the flashback of chapter 1 and Luffy setting sail was perfect.

                                                                                      edit; it's funny, back then I was the biggest Narutard and thought Naruto/Kishi could do no wrong

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                                                                                        The first chapter of One Piece was marvellous… I started with the anime (4Kids) on and off for a few years. Then 2008/9 I started watching the original Japanese version. Much better. I caught up quickly after I fell in love, Arlong Park arc is what solidified things for me. A few weeks later I'd caught up with the anime (Marineford arc). That's when I started reading the manga...

                                                                                        Chapter 1 was incredible and since then I thought Oda would ruin Luffy's backstory if he ever decided to go back but he crafted something amazing. The way it just fit seemingly between the end of the flashback of chapter 1 and Luffy setting sail was perfect.

                                                                                        edit; it's funny, back then I was the biggest Narutard and thought Naruto/Kishi could do no wrong

                                                                                        That's exactly how I started!!! I watched a couple of the 4kids episodes and I thought the show looked good but back then I preferred Naruto.
                                                                                        I watched the first season of Naruto on the internet and it left me wanting to watch more so I watched the newest One Piece episode at the time ( it was the episode where Sanji beat the crap out of the wolf guy).
                                                                                        I just needed to know how the show got to that so I watched the show from the beginning, a couple of days later I catch up.
                                                                                        My life would never be the same after that.

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                                                                                          That's exactly how I started!!! I watched a couple of the 4kids episodes and I thought the show looked good but back then I preferred Naruto.
                                                                                          I watched the first season of Naruto on the internet and it left me wanting to watch more so I watched the newest One Piece episode at the time ( it was the episode where Sanji beat the crap out of the wolf guy).
                                                                                          I just needed to know how the show got to that so I watched the show from the beginning, a couple of days later I catch up.
                                                                                          My life would never be the same after that.

                                                                                          I liked a girl recently. She said she used to watch the 4kids One Piece aired on T.V and said it was boring judging from that.

                                                                                          aaaaand she's gone.

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                                                                                            That's exactly how I started!!! I watched a couple of the 4kids episodes and I thought the show looked good but back then I preferred Naruto.
                                                                                            I watched the first season of Naruto on the internet and it left me wanting to watch more so I watched the newest One Piece episode at the time ( it was the episode where Sanji beat the crap out of the wolf guy).
                                                                                            I just needed to know how the show got to that so I watched the show from the beginning, a couple of days later I catch up.
                                                                                            My life would never be the same after that.

                                                                                            Funny that my interest in One Piece was because of the 4-Kids dub but knew from my experience from a Digimon dub that I decided to look in the Japanese version and found this site back in October 2004. Me becoming a member here was to ask a question that was going to answered in three years. I was stuck as a member here ever since with two bans so far. Funny how people would say how Oda can do no wrong. That's not fully true

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                                                                                              Funny that my interest in One Piece was because of the 4-Kids dub but knew from my experience from a Digimon dub that I decided to look in the Japanese version and found this site back in October 2004. Me becoming a member here was to ask a question that was going to answered in three years. I was stuck as a member here ever since with two bans so far. Funny how people would say how Oda can do no wrong. That's not fully true

                                                                                              What was the question???

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                                                                                                What was the question???

                                                                                                "Will Usopp re-join the Straw Hat pirates" After that duel with Luffy. Well the question was answered during the Post-Enies Lobby arc

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                                                                                                  Funny that my interest in One Piece was because of the 4-Kids dub but knew from my experience from a Digimon dub that I decided to look in the Japanese version and found this site back in October 2004. Me becoming a member here was to ask a question that was going to answered in three years. I was stuck as a member here ever since with two bans so far. Funny how people would say how Oda can do no wrong. That's not fully true

                                                                                                  I didn't know anything other 4kids so imagine my surprise when I saw Sanji smoking and kicking ass, I mean where did the lollipop go??
                                                                                                  What with all the blood?? Why did it sound so much better in Japanese??
                                                                                                  I got me intrigued.

                                                                                                  I been checking out this forum for a couple of years and I finally signed up, I just needed to talk about One Piece with people who actually like it, none of the people I know like One Piece ( they're all Naruto fans)

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                                                                                                    "Will Usopp re-join the Straw Hat pirates" After that duel with Luffy. Well the question was answered during the Post-Enies Lobby arc

                                                                                                    Hmm, that must have been the question back in the days.

                                                                                                    Talking about One Piece chapters one by one now won't have the same effect as it did when the chapter was released. Very intereting, thanks for sharing

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                                                                                                    I didn't know anything other 4kids so imagine my surprise when I saw Sanji smoking and kicking ass, I mean where did the lollipop go??
                                                                                                    What with all the blood?? Why did it sound so much better in Japanese??
                                                                                                    I got me intrigued.

                                                                                                    I been checking out this forum for a couple of years and I finally signed up, I just needed to talk about One Piece with people who actually like it, none of the people I know like One Piece ( they're all Naruto fans)

                                                                                                    I have a couple OP friends I hang out with. It's cool and all, forums are just much better. There's a load of people willing to debate things

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                                                                                                      I have a couple OP friends I hang out with. It's cool and all, forums are just much better. There's a load of people willing to debate things

                                                                                                      When I hang out with my friends and I make a One Piece comment they look at me like if I have two heads,
                                                                                                      something inside me breaks every time that happens.

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                                                                                                        When I hang out with my friends and I make a One Piece comment they look at me like if I have two heads,
                                                                                                        something inside me breaks every time that happens.

                                                                                                        The worst is when people are like "yes I watch one piece"

                                                                                                        Me: cool! Do you read the manga??

                                                                                                        Person: Luffys the stretchy guy? I used to watch on TV. It was a cool show

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