Chapter 384 "Raise the signal for a Counterattack" Discussion
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LQ
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Nice stuff. Thanks a bunch AA. =)
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This is great, we all waited some time for this, and it should be worth it :D
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Oh, shit, so cool. I wonder what those new enemies are?!
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A new OP before school. Sweet.
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i thought this would never happen. thx a lot, alex.
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How bout that, Blueno didn't turn tail & run, the fight's still on.
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AWESOME!
Thanks for the chapter AA! You rule!
Excellent chapter too!sits back to re-read
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Mr. 3 has the worst disguises ever.
Ussop Brave Warrior of the Sea, friends to Giants everywhere. Is he going to rampage around the city on top of a giant the same way the other Strawhat did with the bulls?
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BF, your link is to Chapter 383.
BTW, does anyone know the title of this chapter? I can't figure out what "agero" meant… ^^;;
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the new enemies are the judges they were speaking about in the second spoiler
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thx the chapter rocks !!!
And the battle still rages on between luffy and bruno -
BF, your link is to Chapter 383.
BTW, does anyone know the title of this chapter? I can't figure out what "agero" meant… ^^;;
Oh jeez, sorry! My attention was elsewhere, I've updated the link.
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party time =D wooohooo woah those guys that took down Gammorah really have balls of steel :laugh:
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Yay, thanks a lot for the new chapter AA. BTW, you call that a LQ?
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Yay, thanks a lot for the new chapter AA. BTW, you call that a LQ?
Pretty much until the page BG is white and is fit for scanlation ^^
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Well I see your point, but compared to other LQ´s we had this one actually is an HQ-LQ. :laugh:
BTW, I´ve just combined the last two pages into a spread in case anyone cares. Enjoy.
Ok now I´ll go off to watch my daily dose of Inuyasha, Detective Conan, One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh! before I return here. Perfect timing with the new chapter. Until then the trans could be out. But even without it, good chapter. Usopp seems to be one step closer to achieve his dream.
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Thanks alotz. Oh dear, I really really need a translation. XD
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Great chapter sogeking and the giant's make this chapter gold hope for a translation soon
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yeah
thanks for the chapter :D
it´s great -
if usopp embarqued on a giant pirate ship, he'd be a brave warrior of the sea in 2 seconds imo. they seem to make him express the best of his abilities
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lovely! thanks AA…
and now, off to the uni!
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Another link…
btw, whats the deal with the links people put up lately with a space in the h ttp so you are forced to copy paste it?
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Wow, I never would have figured out that since the giants are from Elbaf, they're almost certainly honorable men. Or at least, that's the way I remember Elbaf being described before.
It looks like we wasted two pages on Baskerville, though… seems like more of the same gag, the heads arguing among themselves :/
PS: The new post editing system is badass.
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Anyone have any thoughts who that could be in the cover story appearing in front of mr. 3's ship? It looks a lot like Lucci, i cant think of another character that dresses like that and wears a top hat, but it couldn't be Lucci in the cover story, because he's in the main story heh.
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It's remarkable. No matter how much the spoiler makes the chapter sound boring, once it comes out, you'll see how great it is
Loved how the spoiler didn't mention the small Franky moment. Totally surprised
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Yep I knew the second spoiler was the real one when I read it, it's just so incredibly Oda-like.
and thx for the chapter, even though the spoiler already explained most, it's mainly text so I'll wait for a trans
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It could be sleep deprivation or drunkenness or both. But I just had the biggest, most uncontrollable laugh attack at the cover pg. Just looking at how freakin' goofy Mr. 3's ship is, just made me lose it. XD :laugh: XD :laugh: XD
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YESSSSSSS finally!!! almost like a dream
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Anyone have any thoughts who that could be in the cover story appearing in front of mr. 3's ship?
Ao Kiji
What a frigging awesome chapter. The ONLY thing I'm dissapointed by is that Oda didn't base the designs for the giants off of someone in the background in their flashback. He usually does that. I guess he didn't on purpose so we couldn't guess they were connected to Dorey and Brogey but still it woulda been neat. This teaches you one thing. never lie to a giant or there'll be hell to pay.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND, looks like Galley-La may have a chance to strike back at the forefront. TOTALLY unexpected. Oda is handling this amazingly well. What a terrific chapter. SO GOOD!
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An awesome chapter indeed. Thanks everyone.
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Cool, the group lose their second biggest strength only to gain two new reinforcement! Heh, sometimes its good to have connections. So the ball still in the Straw Hats court. But now we got a new enemy deal with, the fight still on against Blueno (knew that attack wasn't going to finish him that easily), and Franky and Robin are still locked up. More of a setup chapter but moves the story along, so no complaints. Guess nex chap will continue the Luffy/Blueno fight.
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I have said once before, and I have to say it again. "This chapter disappointed me." Sorry about it.
Although let those two giants turned their sde sound interesting, but in a logic way, it makes no sense. Come on, for one hundred years, none of the giant pirates have ever thought about checking little garden? Were your guys all forgot when and where your bosses start to argue and duel each other? This is not only stupid, but also seems like giants have short turn memory loss problem.
If there is a good explaination, I will say maybe these two giant guards were very young when Dolly and Brokki lead their pirate group. Since they were very famous (as for the record, no one could stop them), the two young giant boys claimed that they want to join them one day. But somehow the two giant captains started the duel and lost contact with the villiage for about one year or even longer. The two boys started to worry about, and were persuaded by the government. When the boys left, the rest of the giant pirate tribe finally got tired of waiting the end of the dueling and came back. They just miss each other. If the story is like this, that could make sense. Otherwise I would really say giants have short turn memory loss problem, it is stupid to recruit them as door guards. Also Ussop has no solid evidence except his word, that is even worse. How could those two believed his story so easily without thinking? The giants were not the reader out side the frame, could this mean is it possible if the government can make some fake evidences, they will turn their side again?
Otherwise, I hate more and more new "weak" characters showing up (11 juries). I know the is the entrance of the government, but come on, it is really making the story lame. We all just want to see the big fight, not like this! If Mr. Oda keep doing this, it will be very hard for me to believe that Luffy and his friends can win all the battle at the end. They will become exhausted and tired when they faced endless enemies. Also don't forget, it is midnight right now! Even they won the battle with CP9, I predicted they will fall sleep when they think they end everything. And the next day, everyone get caught and set to Impel Down!
Maybe I shouldn't argue that much, but since I have been wainting the climax of this arc so long, and it seems endless to me now, maybe I should quit reading those stuff for like three months or longer, then I can go back to see the whole story. That might be a better idea.
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Thanks a lot.@'[regz:
']Anyone have any thoughts who that could be in the cover story appearing in front of mr. 3's ship?
From the height my first thought was Ao Kiji - he could be standstill sleeping over there. But my hope are it's somebody new, like another Admiral.
Jjimmy, if you haven't noticed by now the giants aren't the smartest fellows out there. Simple minded warriors. Doesn't the giants helping Strew Hats make the story more believable, actually?
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Thanks a lot.From the height my first thought was Ao Kiji - he could be standstill sleeping over there. But I but my hope it's somebody new, like another Admiral.
I guess it would be MR.2 in one of his transformed face. He will get Mr.3's face later and go to rescue other BW members.
Also for the giants.
I know giants were not smart. But come on! In the flash back, all the giants should know where their bosses go when they mensioned about the two giant sea monsters they killed and left on little garden. So the only good explaination is they have short turn memory loss problem, otherwise the only possible explaination will be those two were not in the same group with Dorry and Brokki when the duel started.
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ah, finally new chapter, thankyou very much Alexander Anderson
wow… so many conversations, I can't understand at all ^^; need a trans. but from what I can see.... so... the giants are somehow related to Dorey and Broggy and now became an ally ^^ but I'm so sad.... another king bull is defeated. >< can't they treat animal more gently?? gosh....
and Robin and Franky are chained somewhere alone..... Franky said something to her and.... I don't understand -- but Robin looks so deppresed ;;
I think, other strawhats are getting closer to their destination, and Luffy's fight still going on ^^
oh, well... need trans to understand this chapter ^_^ -
Also Ussop has no solid evidence except his word, that is even worse.
Did you even read the chapter? Usopp could name what weapons they used, how they laughed and even their moves. What better proof is that from a teenager who (and this is where you can tell me how great I am for proving this) would never have been able to meet the giants because they were supposedly captured so long ago AND would have had no chance of meeting them if the Govt. had them.
BAM
And them working for the Govt. to free their supposedly captured captains makes perfect sense in a manga world. They're ideal characters that would do anything for their captains. Now evidently, Marines/Govt do have some way of 'detaining' giants since they were able to speak to the two. If they could fall it'd be logical the Marines/Govt. could take down other giants. They love their captain and would do what's necessary for him.
Awesome. Oda is finally back in the zone.
he could be standstill sleeping over there.
He's telling 3 to "Hold up"
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I dunno.. Ao Kiji? Hina is pwnage enough, if Ao Kiji started capturing BW members the mini story'll be over in no time :/ I'm thinking it'll be an ally of some sort, although the closest thing I can come up with that fits the shape would be Daz Bones. The bald head would fit, and the build seems close enough…
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@omae:
Did you even read the chapter? Usopp could name what weapons they used, how they laughed and even their moves. What better proof is that from a teenager who (and this is where you can tell me how great I am for proving this) would never have been able to meet the giants because they were supposedly captured so long ago AND would have had no chance of meeting them if the Govt. had them.
That is not "solid evidences"! All he said is just his "words"!
I know it will be really hard for Ussop to show any solid evidence from a giant. (he would totally be crashed down if he tries to hold his master's axe) But in the other hand, giants aren't that smart to tell the difference between a lie or a true. So the only problem now will be does the government ever prepare about this kind of situation? In a logic way, I will believe there should be some researchers tried to investigate their weapons or imitating the laughing if the giants want to ask the stasis of their bosses. They can be persuaded by a stranger who is one of the attackers tonight, how could the government never think about this since they have handled them for one hundred years?
But again, it has been one hundred years, maybe the government don't bother about that any more. So somehow, maybe I am too hard on it, I am too hard to see things come out that easily.
BTW: No body can stop the giant? I am really kind of doubting this theory now, since those two guards were just beaten by Franky family (a bunch of losers) and Gally-La (three tough fighters who forgot to wear a mask. If I am the government agent, I am going to let Iceberg in big trouble) before.
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That is not "solid evidences"! All he said is just his "words"!
You've hit a Cartesian Circle my friend. If they fell for the Marines' words why wouldn't they believe him.
Regardless, his words are more than proof. He knows something that would impossible for him to know.
In a logic way, I will believe there should be some researcher try to immitate their weapons or laughing
That's out there. Besides, the Govt. has no way of knowing where they are unless they actually went looking. Mr. 3 didn't even know the giants were there. The Govt. knows nothing of them and hasn't checked up on them.
Checkmate.
I dunno.. Ao Kiji? Hina is pwnage enough, if Ao Kiji started capturing BW members the mini story'll be over in no time
I agree. But it also sounds a bit like his way of speaking. Perhaps (as always) Oda does not intend the arc to go exactly a we've expected ^_^
No body can stop the giant? I am really kind of doubting this theory now, since those two guards were just beaten by Franky family (a bunch of losers) and Gally-La (three tough fighters who forgot to wear a mask) before.
Aside from the new enemies, everyone we've seen has strength only in numbers. They're a force that can easily, by virtue of their size, sweep through the thousands on agents and marines. Of course they can/will/should be taken down at some point to split up the crew as is necessary.
Why I'm particularly impressed is that while Oda is slowly taking the group apart (as always and should be) he's actually ADDING to it here what he takes away which is unbelievable considering what he has to do later.
I dunno if any of you can comprehend how amazing that is but just think about how he logically must split the members up for their final battles and it's just…really it's hard to put into words. I think he's a masochist or something.
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@jjimmy:
BTW: No body can stop the giant? I am really kind of doubting this theory now, since those two guards were just beaten by Franky family (a bunch of losers) and Gally-La (three tough fighters who forgot to wear a mask. If I am the government agent, I am going to let Iceberg in big trouble) before.
Well those bunch of losers and three tough fighters already took out a whole lot of the marines…so it can be believable that these two giants can deal with most of the whole Enies Lobby.
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Can´t argue much about the chapter since I don´t have a translation but what I see so far is awesome.
However the silhouette character is Bon Kurei IMO. Just check the title page of chapter 374 and look at the person on the far right. To me this guy looks like Mr. 2 who´s wearing Miss Goldenweeks original robe and if you compare it to the silhouette guy it would actually fit perfectly. Well of course nothing´s set in stone so far but I´m betting my money on Bon-chan and I would be pretty surprised if it doesn´t turn out to be him.
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Wooo ! I thought I'd see this before school.
BSotW: Giant smash !! kerpow
(but I'm late already so I gotta scram… >.>;;;)
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@omae:
You've hit a Cartesian Circle my friend. If they fell for the Marines' words why wouldn't they believe him.
Regardless, his words are more than proof. He knows something that would impossible for him to know.
I don't want to argue about this point. I agree with giants are not that smart, but since we have different definitions on solid evidences, I think we should end this.
@omae:
That's out there. Besides, the Govt. has no way of knowing where they are unless they actually went looking. Mr. 3 didn't even know the giants were there. The Govt. knows nothing of them and hasn't checked up on them.
^In this point. Come on, they are the biggest enemies 100 years ago(Maybe even stonger than Roger later.), and nobody want to investigate them that time? I would really believe that Dorry and Brokki's laughing become someone's nightmare that time. So there should have been some records about giants stuff. So if the governmnet really care about using those giants, it will become a boring argument between a teenagers who claims he has seen them before (we all know this is truth) and the evil (justice?) govermnet DA/lawyer who has a bunch of "fake" solid evidences (based on 100 years research). Then the giants will become confused, and we don't even care about what CP9 are doing OTL. Nanh, that is too boring and too far. Just forget aboit what I have said. Reader shouldn't use too much brain on One Piece.
BTW: the biggest problem should be Mr.3. He has Dorry and Brokki bounties information, which means the government never cancel the bounties. It seems like the giants would be really stupid if they know the bounties are still there.
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please don't use my translations for scanlations. if you post this elsewhere please include a link to this page as my translations tend to change over time (corrections and stuff).
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chapter 384 "raise the signal for the counterattack"
miss golden week's plan name "meets baroque works vol 19: wait up"
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sogeking: …...........................
sogeking: ............................
sogeking: i missed getting on the kingbull..............
sogeking: w w w what should i do, i'm far behind
sogeking: those shipwrights are amazing....
sogeking: either way... i've already left the crew...
sogeking: i should just run away......!!
ooshi78: NO!
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sogeking: n n no, not running away!! man usopp!! after all that work in changing my identity and coming along!!
sogeking: robin sacrificing herself to protect the crew!! i must fight no matter what!!!!
sogeking: ok..................!!
sogeking: there's only one way to get to where the others are.... i'll go with, "disguise myself as a government person and pass through their checkpoints big plan"!!
sogeking: ok... that's good...!?
sogeking: eh!?
sogeking: uwo--!! what what? water attack!?
sogeking: enemy attack!! enemy attack!!
sogeking: hm!?
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oimo: alas...!!!
sogeking: gya--!!! the giant's waking up----!!!
oimo: after 50 years, we messed up ....we're a embarrasment to elubafu.....!!!!
sogeking: .........!?
oimo: sorry bosses.... sorry.... uvovovo......!!!
sogeking: ...............!!
sogeking: e.......!! elubafu....................!?
sogeking: ............hey you're not from "the town of fighters, elubafu" are you!?
oimo: ...........! ........!? who are you.....
sogeking: u
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oimo: it's no use talking to you about it but...
oimo: myself
oimo: and ka-shi-...........
oimo: were pirates till 100 years ago ......we were messing around all over the world
oimo: but one day, on a island.... the two bosses started a "duel", and the crew was disbanded. the crew all decided to go back home.
sogeking: ...........
oimo: life or death "fighters duel", the winner is supposed to come back to town but.... we waited tens of years but nobody comes back
oimo: after 50 years... we thought something was wrong... ka-shi- and i went to sea to find those two but...
oimo: we got caught by the marines on the way and were forced to give up all of our information. they told us some startling news in return.
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oimo: we found out the two strong bosses have been taken away to the government's great prison...........!!
oimo: .........that was about 50 years ago...
sogeking: eh??
sogeking: ??
oimo: but the government came up with a deal....!! if ka-shi- and I will work for the government for "100 years".... meaning that we guard the eneas lobby gate for 100 years
sogeking: .....
oimo: they'll free the two bosses and send us all back to our homeland elubafu.........!! giants have a lifespan of 300 years... 100 years is no big deal so we agreed and fought for 50 years but....
oimo: today.............!! pirates broke through the gate........!! who would have thought something like this would happen........!!!
oimo: damn, now our bosses will be caged for the rest of their lives.....!! uwooo...!!!
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oimo: uwooooo...!!
sogeking: hey hey, wait wait!! something's funny about that story!!
oimo: what's funny!! if you're gonna laugh at our pride...
sogeking: not that kind of funny
sogeking: something's weird!!
sogeking: because on our voyage here, we met those two!!!
sogeking: "the fighters from elubafu" dolly and broggy, who you talk about, have been dueling for 100 years on that island without a winner!!!
oimo: ............!! you... how do you know their names ..... wha? ...... that's absurd...
sogeking: if you need proof, i'll tell you more. the way the two laugh!? weapons!? moves!? i can tell you anything. i really met them!! it's a lie that they were caught 50 years ago!!!!
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box: eneas lobby main island "courthouse"
baskerville: ...........!! they're heading this way after getting through the middle of the "main island"!!?
baskerville: the "houbantai" have failed their mission
baskerville: and ten thousand troops are being routed....!!
baskerville: are you guys really the troops that are supposed to guard "the front door to the government"!! feel some shame!!!
marine: so.... sorry. the kingbulls were a bigger force than we expected....!! but the other one is a matter of time.....!!
baskerville: silence fools!! your words have no weight anymore!!
baskerville: as he says...!!
baskerville: .......so now we have to go to our final resort.....!! we'll call them!!!
marines: .........!! you won't.....!!
marines: release them on the town!!?
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baskerville: they are!!! the executioners of "the island of justice administration?!!
baskerville: here!! they come!!
marines: you....
marines: you won't....!!
baskerville: ..............
baskerville: call them!!!
marine: come to think of it main judge
marine: we lost sight of "mugiwara" also
baskerville: hey, silence!!
baskerville: i don't need anymore bad info!!!
baskerville: the time of judgement has arrived!!
marine: wa....!! wait, please!!
baskerville: release the impartial "11 jurors"!!!!
marine: do you really mean that!!? the city will be crushed!!
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box: eneas lobby inside the "main island"
marine: take careful aim
marine: lead them in
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ff: it's a "hakugekihou" (mortar), dodge it gomorrah!!!
gomorrah: bahihi--nn!!
zanbai: this center road is dangerous.....!!
zanbai: they're well prepared and waiting for us!!
zanbai: let's double back!!!
gomorrah: baruru!!
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sodom: bagya-!!!
chopper: ..........!!
chopper: ............!!
chopper: mugu..........!!!
phone: purururu...
?: !
phone: pururururu...
nami: eh
nami: small snail phone
phone: purururu....
nami: yes
nami: who is this!?
kokoro: it's us!! ui--
ff: it's granny kokoro
ff: what's she want?
kokoro: good, it seems you guys are still alive ungagaga!!
nami: is something wrong!?
kokoro: there was something i forgot to say... you guys are probably busy so
kokoro: i'll speak quickly so listen up
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kokoro: on paulie's map there's no road from the "courthouse" to the "tower of justice administration" right!
?: !
sanji: that's right....
sanji: we were just getting worried about that
kokoro: look at the "courthouse"!! there's a tower on each side right?
sanji: yeah! there is
kokoro: there's a lever on the top level of the right and left towers... and if you pull them
kokoro: a bridge will form between the "courthouse" and the "tower of justice administration"
zanbai: granny, how come you know this!?
kokoro: i came with tom-san a long time ago to fix the bridge. ungreatfull stupid government!!!
zanbai: don't get mad at me....!!
kokoro: also, chimney...
chimney: hello----!? pirate sister, can you hear me-----!!?
gonbe: nya- nya- nya!?
nami: wa!! what? chimney
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chimney: um--!! the rubber pirate brother, i saw him climb to the top of the courthouse-!!
nami: really!? luffy!!?
chimney: i also saw some rocks crumbling at the top, so it looks like he's fighting!!
nami: on the roof!? .... ok, thanks
kokoro: and girl! leave the denden mushi on so we know what's going on
nami: ok
nami: ----that's the story!!
zoro: now we know where to go...!!
zanbai: ok!! you guys go straight ahead and merge with mugiwara on the roof!!
zanbai: we're gonna split in two and lower the "hane hashi" (feather bridge?)!!!!
ff: yeah!!!
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zanbai: we're counting on you gomorrah!!! to the courthouse!!
gomorrah: bahihi-nn!!
gomorrah: barururu!!!
gomorrah: !!!
gomorrah: !!?
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ff: gomorrah!!!
gomorrah: ovo----!!!
ff: crap.....!!
?: ......
ff: who are those guys!!!
zoro: ............!!
?: ......... you think things will go that well
?: you trash (the kanji is "pirates")
gomorrah: ........vo...
marines: yeah, we go the second one too----!!
gomorrah: oo-...
?: !!!
marines: the pirates don't have wheels anymore!!!
marines: surround them and fire----!!!
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speaker: a message to all the forces on eneas lobby!! south east sector center of D block,
sanji: the marines that we passed are catching up!!
sanji: not good
zanbai: they're pouring in from the front too!!
speaker: we have taken down the kingbull used by the pirates!!!
speaker: all forces come to D block and seal it off!!!
kiwi: they're aiming at us with mortars too
chopper: oh no, there's thousands of them!!
chopper: if we get surrounded in a place like this!!!
chopper: we'll be defeated-----!!!
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box: "tower of justice administration"
franky: you're fortunate....
franky: nobody comes to save people here---
franky: i'm not saying it just cause my guys won't come to save me
robin: ...........
box: near the "main island front gate"
marine: ooh!! yay!!
marine: oimo and ka-shi- have returned!!
?: hurry up and stomp those guys!! giants, do something about those 3!! ga ha ha ha ha
paulie: what the heck.....!! ha.... ha... i don't have the energy to fight those.....!!
paulie: this is it....!!
?: kill those three---!! giants!!!
giants: ooooo...
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ka-shi-: how dare you trick us!!!!!!!
?: !!!?
sogeking: uwo!!
marines: gyaaaaaaaa
marines: uoaaaaa----!!
marines: what!? the two have betrayed us!!!
oimo: before we rejoice in the safety of our bosses.... or be saddened by the waste of our years...
ka-shi-: we'll cause destruction till we satisfy our rage.....!!!
ka-shi-: let's go together!! the king of sniping!!!
sogeking: no suffering!!! raise the signal for the counterattack!!!!
sogeking: hurry, to our comrades!!
ooshi78
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To me this guy looks like Mr. 2 who´s wearing Miss Goldenweeks original robe
AWESOME idea Ivotas!!!!! I like it!! And it's just like Oda to make something so obviously one then the other!!! GOOD CALL!!!!!
I don't want to argue about this point. I agree with giants are not that smart, but since we have different definitions on solid evidences, I think we should end this.
I'm just saying he knows something that is absolutely impossible for him to know. That's enough evidence, esp. if you think these fellows believe words.
And as far as someone investigating, someone as knowledgable about the world and conniving as Mr. 3 didn't even know the Giants were there. The giants themselves said everyone who came to the island died of old age or something else.
That's all there really is to it=)
I should just put this in my sig.
God has three letters, Oda has three letters, coincidence?
I FREAKING THINK NOT!
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Ha ha, look at the last page where Usopp is standing on the giant's shoulder. xDD
Good chapter! Not that exciting, but lots of Sogeking action which is always a plus. I think that this'll have more to do with maybe a possible arc on elbalf?
EDIT: IS THAT BLACKBEARD WHO TOOK OUT HORSE GUY? O__O If it is, then it seems my friend's predictions were correct~~!
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Best chapter in weeks. Oda DID have a point in putting those random giants there!
And Omae, Oda's name is two characters, not three. I thought you knew japanese. ^^ (Come to think of it, I don't know the Kanji for Oda's name… anyone mind enlightening me?)
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Yay, finally! Of course it comes out like, 4am my time. :P Thanks. downloads
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Aww, I was hoping for some serious sniping! Ah well, can't have everything in life.
But SogeKing's still awesome! And his mask is retractable. :evil:
Though I must say that another batch of filler enemies (the juries?) is a bit too much.