Wano cant just be about Zoro. I hope the other Strawhats get development there too.
Chapter 778: Tactics No.5
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I am going to agree with this. I can't say I'm satisfied, but it's a step in the right direction. I like how Zoro finally showed some emotion last chapter when Pica attacked the wounded and weary, and seemed to become a little more lighthearted when he tried to recite his little line in time for arrival.
Perhaps I'm alone in this, but I felt a strange sting of satisfaction when Zoro yelled "Come on out, Pica!" after he finally managed to corner him. I believe this is the first time he references him by his actual name instead of "Soprano Bastard" or "rock bastard" or any of those boring arrogant-Zoro epithets. Perhaps unintentionally, it felt as if calling his opponent by name was finally a sign of some respect given, an acknowledgment of his enemy's ability, a little dignity right at the close of it all. Too little too late, but appreciated nonetheless.
I didn't thought of that while reading the chapter, but now that you mention it, it does feel right to see Zoro call Pica by his name at least once before slashing him. Nice observation there, man!
Also, your earlier post was pretty cool too, even though I don't agree 100% with it, it was really well written while not sounding smug or whinny, so keep it up and do more of those!
I feel Oda might be giving Zoro a lil' break after making him constantly handicaped as a rule in every single fight for 500 chapters in a row by showing him as a powerhouse against both relatively average rivals (Monet, Hyozou) and relatively strong ones (Pica). It's true Zoro surpassing his rivals against all/some odds is always satisfying, and these last steamrolls are not on that level. . .but I see a progression here since Hyozou, it's undeniable that Pica was a much bigger headache than the octopus fishman or Monet could ever hope to be. It's a different kind of trouble Zoro's been given, but I believe, from what we've seen, that Pica was at least a tricky opponent that Zoro had some degree of trouble overcoming. So maybe next opponent will be the one that brings back strugglin' Zoro?
Now, I've mostly enjoyed the fight since it begun on a purely coreography/visual flair level, a department where I think it has been more than decent, even good, but I can see how Zoro's constant undermining of his opponent and stating from the get go that he's way above his league really put a dent to the overall feeling of the fight. We could've all done without those snarky remarks.
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I never really look out for these things but i just spoted panda man on page eight (8) middle panel left hand side http://readms.com/r/one_piece/778/2701/8
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I am going to agree with this. I can't say I'm satisfied, but it's a step in the right direction. I like how Zoro finally showed some emotion last chapter when Pica attacked the wounded and weary, and seemed to become a little more lighthearted when he tried to recite his little line in time for arrival.
Perhaps I'm alone in this, but I felt a strange sting of satisfaction when Zoro yelled "Come on out, Pica!" after he finally managed to corner him. I believe this is the first time he references him by his actual name instead of "Soprano Bastard" or "rock bastard" or any of those boring arrogant-Zoro epithets. Perhaps unintentionally, it felt as if calling his opponent by name was finally a sign of some respect given, an acknowledgment of his enemy's ability, a little dignity right at the close of it all. Too little too late, but appreciated nonetheless.
I don't think Zoro ever called his enemies by their names. Either Kaku or Mr.1 were called by some other name.
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I thought Zoro struggled fine in this fight. He didn't bleed a billion gallons of blood like he usually does but he did struggle in different ways. Did you see how he was sweating bullets in the last two pages? Catching up with Pica, the mental pressure to save the people on the plateu as well as those insane mountain slicing slashes did a real number on him.
Like did people even see what techniques Zoro used her? An upgrade of 3000 worlds? The only times he's used this technique was against Mihawk and Oars, a fricken giant.
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This arc has been very downhill ever since Sabo's epic appearance. It was like an admiral, 2nd in command of RA, Jesus Burgess, Law, and Dofla all on an island. Then nothing really has happened except for Dofla vs Law and now Dofla vs Luffy/Law. I liked Zoro using "strategy" but the fact someone as powerful and built-up as Dofla couldn't have a subordinate who challenged Zoro is highly disappointing. Dofla himself has been so spread out of the course of the arc, his impact is far less noticeable than I think it should be (I know birdcage, blah blah). We don't even know what Dofla's end goal is and he's about to be beaten… I hope we get an explanation on Monet calling him Pirate King later. I still have hope for a great fight and some good exposition but it could have been done so much better and more concisely.
The Doflamingo pirates have been sitting on their asses for ten years, completely unopposed. They've done nothing but get complacent and old. If they were still in ther prime, I could see there being issues. Even then Zoro did struggle with Pica. Hell, he's probably the only person who could dispatch Pica quick enough to protect everyone. And to do it, he had to use 3,000 Worlds, Santoryu's most powerful technique; this wasn't an easy fight for him.
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I also really liked how clever the fight was, it did require a level of intricate strategy to corner Pica and even then, he gave one final desperate counter attack. Really satisfied with how well the fruit was utilized.
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I really liked this chapter! No, Zoro didn't really take any major damage this fight, but I disagree with the notion that he didn't struggle or that Pica was soooo far below him; Zoro actually had to think and strategize more than he used to, and Pica's ability was repeatedly shown to be a pain for him, even if he never took a major hit (though I think I remember him tanking a punch at one point? It didn't do much, but I'm pretty sure he was at least hit). Besides, as some have pointed out, this fight has actually been going on for quite a while now; even if you just look at the on-panel parts, it's probably about as long as a typical Zoro fight (not the longest, but about average, I'd say). Now, I definitely would have prefered Zoro taking a little more damage, and I DEFINITELY wouldn't have jumped around so much for any of the fights this arc and would've put more focus on one at a time, but I enjoyed what we got. Honestly, despite the people complaining about this fight, I actually think this was one of the better fights this arc, despite its issues.
If nothing else, Zoro put on his bandana (finally), and used not only visible arnament haki, but one of his most powerful moves pre-timeskip AND an upgraded version of it; clearly, he was taking this seriously, and I'd even say Pica was a worthy foe overall, even if that could've come across better.
The double-page spreads were awesome, and Zoro's attacks were some of the most impressive he's shown so far, considering the scale of everything. The haki vs haki moment at the end was…okay, I guess, though I hope Oda doesn't rely on that too much. In terms of art, this chapter definitely excelled. Also wasn't expecting Orlumbus to be the one getting Zoro over there or King's Punch being used for that; definitely appreciated that.
I think that Pica and the rest of the executives are more powerful than a lot of people here are giving them credit for; Oda just hasn't been the best at showing their strength lately. Earlier this arc, it seemed like they were taking the gladiators out left and right, and I think a lot of people are forgetting how much damage most of the combatants took: as much as people have been trashing on Diamante, Kyros got fucked up in that fight, regardless of the outcome; Usopp got the shit beat out of him by Trebol and Sugar; it took Nami, Chopper, and Brook to take Jora out initially; Robin took damage from Diamante (and wasn't even directly fighting him); Franky passed out after beating Senor Pink; Chinjao, who had a full (albeit short) fight with Luffy, was defeated; Bartolomeo had to tank a point-blank explosion from Gladius; Law was defeated rather brutally by Doflamingo; and Luffy himself has only landed one good blow against Doflamingo so far, and has taken several blows from him. This arc definitely has issues, don't get me wrong, but the strength of the villains isn't one of them; Oda having them taken out one-by-one nearly every chapter has definitely hurt our impressions of their strength by a lot, though.
Thanks to PirateNeko for the avatar!
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With the mention of Zoro's haki, does this mean he can now cut logias? If so, it seems it might boil down to haki x being greater than haki y. I suppose the Monet fight kinda answered that question.
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Plot twist: Trebol is stronger than Doflamingo and destroys island before leaving.
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@TLC:
I also really liked how clever the fight was, it did require a level of intricate strategy to corner Pica and even then, he gave one final desperate counter attack. Really satisfied with how well the fruit was utilized.
This I can 100% agree with. I've had major beef with Odas handling of DFs as of late, but with Pica, his ability remained a well-defined, simple, yet awesome until the end.
Now, I've mostly enjoyed the fight since it begun on a purely coreography/visual flair level, a department where I think it has been more than decent, even good, but I can see how Zoro's constant undermining of his opponent and stating from the get go that he's way above his league really put a dent to the overall feeling of the fight. We could've all done without those snarky remarks.
I agree with this too.
Looking at these last few pages of discussion, I think I can hazard a summation that if
A) Zoro hadn't been insufferably smug and insulting towards Pica early on
B) The fight hadn't been spread out into a myriad tiny fragments over months of chapters, and instead been presented and choreographed as a cohesive whole
C) The climax didn't hinge on characters having a picnic at the Kings Plateau and Fujitoras sudden convenient absenceWe'd have had a fight that would've satisfied quite a lot of people.
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The only issue I have is that Elizabello's King Punch Lite was done with his left arm and the full Punch is done using his right. Either both punches take the same amount of time to charge and he just used the left early or the left is weaker but it can be charged faster. Either way, the punch probably isn't depleted by using the alternate hand.
First, right before he used the "light version", he said it wasn't fully charged yet. Second, Dagama said that in order to release one of those punches, he has to warm up and concentrate for one whole hour. Consequently, I'm fairly confident that he can throw a punch whenever, but it will be weakened unless he's spent sufficient time preparing, and he has to start recharging after each punch, regardless of which hand he uses.
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I think that's more a translation issue with Haki. It's been stated many times before that Haki should not be taken to be a literal power ability but simple willpower. So rather than interpret it as "MY HAKI IS 1000 POINTS HIGHER THAN YOURS!" IT'S MORE "My will is stronger, I shall persevere!" "Not if my willpower surpasses yours!" feels much more natural and less power levely.
Regardless of the phrasing, its still the determinant for some physical attributes- the strength of your full body armor, or the ability to cut said body armor. Willpower becomes a stat; if you could soup up Spandam with the Hakitron 5000, then I guess he could cut Pica too.
Aside from that, it just irks me how much of an all-purpose tool CoA has become; it just seems so cheap to me, especially when held up against Mr 1, Jozu, tekkai, seastone and the Darkness fruit.
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Did anyone else pick up on the parallels between Donquioxte Homing and King Riku in this chapter?
Riku admits that in return for being a pacifist, he failed to protect his country. He accepts this fate, as he would rather remain "human" instead of being a murderer.
Homing left his status as a Celestial Dragon to become human. However, unlike Riku, he soon regretted his choice and even apologized to his son.
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Why did Zorro even need to harden his swords, or is this blackening now ever seen when using haki? I mean could this swords getting harder? I dont understand that…
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Regardless of the phrasing, its still the determinant for some physical attributes- the strength of your full body armor, or the ability to cut said body armor. Willpower becomes a stat; if you could soup up Spandam with the Hakitron 5000, then I guess he could cut Pica too.
Aside from that, it just irks me how much of an all-purpose tool CoA has become; it just seems so cheap to me, especially when held up against Mr 1, Jozu, tekkai, seastone and the Darkness fruit.
Getting more technical about it would solve some problems but create new ones.
It's kind of a lose-lose situation, no matter how you go about it.
I think it would have been better if Oda stuck with normal, non-Hardened Haki, for logias and defense.
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Why did Zorro even need to harden his swords, or is this blackening now ever seen when using haki? I mean could this swords getting harder? I dont understand that…
Steel blades can break too. Or at least get dull when you're trying to cut through a mountain sized mass of rocks.
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But these are not some normal swords that get dull… This swords are some of the best in the world...
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But these are not some normal swords that get dull… This swords are some of the best in the world...
Well, nobody ever said they were indestructible. That rust devil fruit marine could have probably destroyed any of Zoro's swords, maybe even Mihawk's. But even if we're talking about breaking, there should be limits to how much a sword can withstand. If I remember well, Zoro was wary of Ryuuma's sword breaking technique when they fought on TB.
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Aside from that, it just irks me how much of an all-purpose tool CoA has become; it just seems so cheap to me, especially when held up against Mr 1, Jozu, tekkai, seastone and the Darkness fruit.
It seriously devalues all of those things a little bit, that's for sure. Cutting steel before the timeskip? Holy cow, that's intense. Cutting it after? "uh just use haki I guess. I mean, why wouldn't you?"
I dunno if it's me, but the concept of hardening - CoA - feels a little more organic on plain ol' fists and flesh. Weapons, not so much.
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Just silly, in the future we probably just see poeple allblack everything…
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But these are not some normal swords that get dull… This swords are some of the best in the world...
And even one of the best swords in the world could be destroyed. If you recall the sword that was destroyed by the Rust Rust man in Enies Lobby could have been any of Zorros sword.
And for the reasoning, well remember the arrows that the Woman of Amazon lily shot? Normal arrows turned into cannonballs. So one of the best swords in the World just became even better. -
Why do I keep trying to read these threads…
Enjoyable chapter.
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I put some effort into this i hope it is not skip over
This chapter in my opinion wasn't a bad chapter even though i read lots of complaints in the tread so far i think it was well thought out and satisfying, not saying that the whole fight couldn't have done better but then something would need to give considering the number of plotlines and characters present.
The cover page- http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/778 The cover page got really interesting with the introduction of the poneglype, there are certain things that came to mind when looking at it such as Jimbe thought bobble and the fact that he is sweating made me think of;
1. His he thinking that i have seen something that i shouldn't have maybe i should call a whale shark and get the hell out of here.
2. Maybe i should call a whale shark and transport this thing to somebody or somewhere.
3. Maybe i can use the same language i use to talk to whale shark and interpret it, this is less likely though as this is assuming there is a written language for whale shark that is similar to the ancient language.
One thing i do know is that every poneglyph that have been seen in One Piece were interpreted therefore i can see the same for this one don't know how it will be done but it will have some relevance in the story at a later time.Chapter- The reason i enjoyed the chapter was how everything was set up and executed i have read post in this thread stating that the execution was poor but seeing the end and thinking back i believe that there were several setup and hints indicating how to defeat pica and the fact that it wasn't just a case of slash all and it is over but was done pretty well so i will get into it. On this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/754/16 zoro said "he is there" and on the next page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/754/17 he cuts Pika golem in half and is comment was " I think i have gotten the hang of it" for some time i was wondering what have zoro figured out? is it that Pika is always hiding in the middle of the statute or is it that he can finally locate him with observation haki, i couldn't wrap my head around it, but this chapter explains everything and i will show why1. I know it is obvious now seeing this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/778/12 and this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/770/4 and hearing zoro's explanation but many of us might not have realise from the first link i posted that hinted to that. If we look we realize that once pica came out to face zoro, the statue stop moving and once he went back in it became active zoro figured this out after using is "1080 pound cannon" but this was only part of the secret to defeat Pika we can all agree due to zoro never hitting him again until this chapter, as Pika kept moving around.
2. This brings me to the second strategy on how to defeat Pika "isolation" so last chapter should have at least showed us how he would be defeated if we look on this page http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/770/4 and this one http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/777/15 also the one before. When Pika head is cut in two part of the face remain active while the other part remain expressionless therefore we can conclude that any part or anywhere he is that part will remain animated zoro figured this out now for the strategy.
3. Leading Zoro away and then returning to the statue by Pika was smart on his part but it was also a double edge sword because it gave zoro the perfect opportunity to use is strategy which is "find, isolate and defeat". Last week a lot of us theorize that king punch would launch Zoro to the statue, we all got it wrong no one predicted admiral bowling
nice on Oda part. Now look how everything come together over these three pages 1. find http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/778/10, http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/778/11, 2. isolate http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/778/12 and 3. defeat http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/778/13. Now if we follow those panels from the first to last Zoro cut the golem leaving the upper body in the air leaving Pica no route to escape, then we see Pika head gets animated instead of the lower body therefore we know he is in the head, next zoro cuts the head in two and wait to see what happen, he then realize the head was not animated anymore so he realize pika escape into the harm what did zoro do next cut the harm in different pieces isolating him further. Pika is not a Logia which was proven this chapter if he would have just reform, so the only thing that remains was for Pika to show himself which he did.What have been proven with this long ass post, Zoro fight was not only about slashing and getting bloody he was facing a tricky opponent that led to him actually strategizing, which shows growth, Pika is not a logia, and last the fight span several chapters while the development leading up to the conclusion could have done better there was development none the less and the fight was long.
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Honestly, this chapter feels like there should've been another chapter before it. Pica and Zoro should've had a fight, and only when the odds weren't in his favor does Pica try and wipe out the plateau. If Zoro had struggled in this fight, it would've been way more epic to see him cut Pica down. But as it is, just an eh chapter. Honestly though, can we please get Zoro going all out? It was understandable in Fishman Island, and epic in Punk Hazard, but this fight should've been where Zoro pulls out Asura (and possibly Oda finally explaining what it is). And before I get some One Piece fanboys attacking me, I'm a big Zoro fan, and I don't think this arc is terrible. Despite it's flaws, this arc still has a lot of good things in it (Fujitora bringing down a meteor, Luffy vs. Chinjao, Sabo, Doflamingo being badass, Usopp awakening his Haki, and the Law flashback to name a few), and I even liked some of the fights, but this chapter just didn't do a lot for me. Still love Pica, but this fight just wasn't that great.
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I think its obvious why Zoro won the fight without a scratch.
because Oda wanted to show Zoro's overwhelming power after time skip. he is yet to show his true strength since the main fight for the straw hats will be with Kaido and his crew.
if zoro could hardly win the fight against Picca, there is no way he could win the fight against a younko's crew.
the real fights are with Kaidou's crew!!I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?
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I think its obvious why Zoro won the fight without a scratch.
because Oda wanted to show Zoro's overwhelming power after time skip. he is yet to show his true strength since the main fight for the straw hats will be with Kaido and his crew.
if zoro could hardly win the fight against Picca, there is no way he could win the fight against a younko's crew.
the real fights are with Kaidou's crew!!Doflamingo and his crew have been hyped up this entire arc. The fight with Doflamingo had better be epic.
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Doflamingo and his crew have been hyped up this entire arc. The fight with Doflamingo had better be epic.
Well so far Don has been kicking ass so that give me hope for a great fight .
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Doflamingo and his crew have been hyped up this entire arc. The fight with Doflamingo had better be epic.
yep but this arc and punk hazard are just a prelude for kaidou's arc.
after defeating doflamingo, the story would not end. it would be just the beginning.
they have to face kaidou's wrath soon and they need to be powerful enough to defeat them.
doflamingo was not powerful enough so he tricked them by newspaper misinformation. in my opinion it just shows that he knew he wouldn't stand a chance against kaidou.
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The piecemeal nature of Zoro vs Pica isn't that different from Luffy vs Lucci. That one also went on over several chapters in bits and pieces.
Well aside from Luffy almost getting killed that is :ninja:
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luffy was weaker than lucci. thats why he thought of a way to beat him by using gear second and third
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and by the way its obvious that this arc was not supposed to show the straw hats full strength...
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I think we have enough evidence that from now on, nobody should say that Pica is a logia ever again.
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We have to take into account that by One Piece-verse standards, people like Kinemon are considered kind of a big deal. He's definitely strong. Now imagine tons of Kinemons ready to defend their land, it's just not worth sending high ranked marines to subdue that island when they already have a ton of countries united under their rule. Or at least, I always took it like that, not that they're so overpowered not even the marine forces could take them down.
It's an island that decided to close itself from the outside world AND has strong warriors, why bother? It's not a nation of pirates like Amazon Lilly or Dressrosa.
Now, is Wano going to be good? I don't know. Is it even going to be an arc in an on itself? Or a world-building little stop amidst the fight against Kaido or Big Mom, which seems to be imminent?
Part of me is "Yeah you're right", however it could be that it is a "Punk Hazard" sort of arc. The Pre-Arc or a stepping stone to Kaido.
My other part however, judging from the fact that Wano is in a way representing Japan, i believe it's gonna be a way of Oda to express himself, his knowledge of Japan through; customs, traditions, samurai's from books and movies and all that great stuff would be put together by OdaWano being Japan and Oda just using it as JUST a stepping stone doesn't have me quite agree.
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I think its obvious why Zoro won the fight without a scratch.
because Oda wanted to show Zoro's overwhelming power after time skip. he is yet to show his true strength since the main fight for the straw hats will be with Kaido and his crew.
if zoro could hardly win the fight against Picca, there is no way he could win the fight against a younko's crew.
the real fights are with Kaidou's crew!!You mean the #1 Swordsman of the Kaido pirates.
Just an FYI, the best swordsman on the crew could even not be the first mate and even lower to the Yonkou.
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Still confused on how this CoA haki is different than CoA haki during the war. If it's so great then why did nobody use it during the war? I think that it works fine with weapons, I mean even Mihawk couldn't cut Jozu. How is cutting things like diamond and seastone going to make sense if there nothing to amplify physical strength without a DF? Anyways this isn't the haki thread but haki is one of the things Oda is doing right (apart from the fact I'd like somebody with fullbody haki to be competent against a massive strike [not to mention make it look less like the user is in full black face])
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Are you talking about Bobbin?
No one knows what they're talking about when it comes to Kaido.
Assuming that Kaidos crew has their "best swordsman".
Based on nothing really except off of WBs crew.
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Still confused on how this CoA haki is different than CoA haki during the war. If it's so great then why did nobody use it during the war? I think that it works fine with weapons, I mean even Mihawk couldn't cut Jozu. How is cutting things like diamond and seastone going to make sense if there nothing to amplify physical strength without a DF? Anyways this isn't the haki thread but haki is one of the things Oda is doing right (apart from the fact I'd like somebody with fullbody haki to be competent against a massive strike [not to mention make it look less like the user is in full black face])
I think that people kept getting confused as to who was using Haki and who wasn't.
So Oda just made it visible?
Not sure.
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the road for greatest swordsman is getting there
goodjob zoro
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Why does everyone normally hate zoro? Its like any swordsman without a devil fruit just sucks to you guys. Zoros a bad ass, get over it
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@Devil:
That was pretty satisfying. I'm glad that not only Elizabello, but Orlumbus too had his time to shine.
Elizabello didn't shine.
He didn't king punch Pica.
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Why does everyone normally hate zoro? Its like any swordsman without a devil fruit just sucks to you guys. Zoros a bad ass, get over it
I actually enjoyed this.
I think Zoro is too strong for the readers to comprehend.
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Zoro performance in Dressrosa, will be known all over the new world.
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luffy was weaker than lucci. thats why he thought of a way to beat him by using gear second and third
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and by the way its obvious that this arc was not supposed to show the straw hats full strength...
I mean half of them are not even here!!!!!!exactly, although I predict puffy will have trouble with mingo, Maybe zoro will even show up to help. But from the looks of it, zoro is way to strong to handle the number 2 now, maybe he will fight the bigg boss one of these days
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@DHL:
I actually enjoyed this.
I think Zoro is too strong for the readers to comprehend.
that could be haha
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Honestly, this chapter feels like there should've been another chapter before it. Pica and Zoro should've had a fight, and only when the odds weren't in his favor does Pica try and wipe out the plateau. If Zoro had struggled in this fight, it would've been way more epic to see him cut Pica down. But as it is, just an eh chapter. Honestly though, can we please get Zoro going all out? It was understandable in Fishman Island, and epic in Punk Hazard, but this fight should've been where Zoro pulls out Asura (and possibly Oda finally explaining what it is). And before I get some One Piece fanboys attacking me, I'm a big Zoro fan, and I don't think this arc is terrible. Despite it's flaws, this arc still has a lot of good things in it (Fujitora bringing down a meteor, Luffy vs. Chinjao, Sabo, Doflamingo being badass, Usopp awakening his Haki, and the Law flashback to name a few), and I even liked some of the fights, but this chapter just didn't do a lot for me. Still love Pica, but this fight just wasn't that great.
Whackadoodle explained this Zoro/Pica fight perfectly, which I will post every time people say this fight was short
I don't really understand why people are complaining about how short this fight was.
Zoro and Pica first started fighting in chapter 740, where we had a full page of Zoro dueling Pica in the palace and wondering how to actually injure him. However, this fight ended just before we returned to that scene in 743, so we saw Zoro wondering where Pica disappeared to. Pica attacked again in 748, but the fight between them didn't resume until 749, where we got about another page of the two of them clashing blades and facing off. In 752, we got another third of a page of them fighting with swords, and in 752, 2 full pages of them swordfighting, before Pica reverted to attacking Zoro using stone (another two-thirds of a page), finished up with another 2 and a third pages of Pica attacking Zoro et al, and Zoro hitting Pica with 1080 pound cannon and talking smack. 755 has them talking more, and another third of a page of them fighting. 769 has a few panels of a double-page spread devoted to their fight (more swords). 770 has two and a third pages of them fighting, before Pica switches to fighting from the plateau with charlestone, which results in another two pages of fighting/exchanging quips, along with a few more panels scattered throughout of Pica's attacks and Zoro dodging. 771 gives us another page of their fight, then 777 gives us 2 and a half pages before Pica goes off to destroy king Riku, which leads to a page of Zoro's reaction, then 3 pages of Zoro planning a response. Finally, we had 13 pages directly of their fight this chapter, with several more of things closely related to their fight.
In terms of content, that's 31 full pages of their fight (30 in the final showdown; I think that makes it his second-longest fight to date in terms of pages), and Zoro used 2 named attacks and innumerable unnamed ones (although Zoro's 2 named attacks inflicted the only injuries either combatant received), while Pica used 3 different named attacks and innumerable unnamed ones.
In terms of in-story narrative, Zoro was portrayed as a match for Pica from the start; even inside the Palace (where Zoro was surrounded by stone) Pica wasn't landing blows. However, Zoro also wasn't able to injure Pica, so they had something of a stalemate going on. However, despite this, Pica was reshaping the island significantly and causing all kinds of mayhem for others while Zoro fought him. While people expected this to return to the old "Zoro loses more blood than is contained in the human body" challenge formula, the challenge in this fight was more a challenge of Zoro's mind: figuring out how to bypass Pica's defenses and injure him, to prevent him from doing more damage to others - others who can neither effectively defend themselves, nor take blows as well as Zoro can. Not that it wasn't also physically strenuous, it's just Zoro was clearly up to that part from the start.
And in terms of the duration of the fight, Elizabello used his king punch (light version) against Pica's arm just before Zoro's second showdown with Pica began in 749, and in 772 Elizabello says his king punch is ready again. That means Zoro and Pica were fighting for a minimum of nearly an hour; I'd call that pretty respectable. In fact, based on the timing between the king punches, it seems like the fights with the officers all lasted a minimum of about half an hour, and quite possibly nearly an hour. Yeah, we didn't see everything that happened in the fights, but there was so much going on that I think it was kind of inevitable that a lot would be off-screened: it's better that Oda didn't get bogged down in showing us every detail of every scene, or we'd be here another 5 years and have forgotten about all the rest of the story by the time Dressrosa ended.
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exactly, although I predict puffy will have trouble with mingo, Maybe zoro will even show up to help. But from the looks of it, zoro is way to strong to handle the number 2 now, maybe he will fight the bigg boss one of these days
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that could be haha
Im crying cant deal
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Lets see, what kind of Zoan fits with swords?
Monkey?Spiders? Although i'm not entirely sure that Zoan are anytihng except for mammals and reptiles.
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