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      i think oda was throwing hints throughout the chapter about the nature of gear 4th
      doflamingo:"you have the speed but not the power" and once luffy used gear 3rd doflamingo goes "you're filled with openings" implying that his speed goes down whenever he uses the power gear
      and if his arm grows whenever he blows his thumb my guess is blowing his wrist indicates that his whole body will grow maintaining the same speed
      tho i hope it's something more unique

      Who says he is blowing his wrist? I figured he was whiping blood or something. I agree with the first part though, it will be something that maintains the speed of G2 and power of G3, but not something that just combines the two. That would be boring and unoriginal.

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        Anyone who thinks that gear 4 is going to be a haki specific attack is just thinking plain wrong. The point about The gears are that they, in stupid and ridiculous ways, utilizes Luffy's rubber body. Obviously haki may be involved but it's not what the gear is about.

        So that's that. What it actually is remains to be seen, but obviously it is something which takes a lot of time to charge up (two weeks to be precise).

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          Very enjoyable chapter. Kept the tension on & the pace up. As everyone is mentioning that is one of the worst translations for a while and it was really hard to parse the dialogue with the action.

          Nice use of Robin, Cavendish and Barto.
          I take it from the look between them that Leo and Manshelly are going after Law's arm. It's a good way to have Manshelly present but having a good reason why she's not busy healing everyone.Despite the bang at the start we didn't see anything like a body for Trebol so wondering if he's going to pop up and try to stop them.

          There obviously isn't enough room with the main fight in full sway, but I found myself more interested in what was going on with Sabo, Koala & even what Fujitora was up to.

          One thing interesting to me is Dofla talking about Luffy and the "Battle In Heaven". I'm presuming this isn't a complete translation misfire and Dofla is indeed referring to the fight against Eneru. How did Dofla know about this event? Is intelligence passed on to the World Government indicating they keep track of Skypeia? Or is this something that Bellamy told him about after his trip up there? I can see Dofla giving him his final chance for this rather than the pillar of gold.

          Well a week to recover now and hope the next chapter keeps up the speed with the whole 'Gear 4' revelation. Not something I have the slightest idea of what it's going to be.

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            Very exciting chapter! I'm really hyped on what gear 4 is going to be. But whatever it is, it's supposed to be Luffy's trump card and will give him the necessary power to defeat Doflamingo and his bird cage. It is obvious that it's gonna eclipse both gear 2 and 3, so it's hard to imagine anything that a "gomu ningen" can actually cook up to that effect.

            We see him about to bite to his wrist, so I guess his gonna blow air to his muscles or blood vessels, which is crazy but he's been blowing through his bones so it's fine I guess.

            These are the things I am thinking of what gear 4 could be: (1) gear 2 + 3, which I am leaning towards on; (2) the ability to use air-pressure-based range attacks; (3) super-sonic limbs (surpassing gear 2) that gives his attacks piercing and slashing attributes.

            Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!

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              The gear 4 at the end is exciting! , but the breaks oda takes are very noticable , hope he gets better but it seems that he takes one every 3 weeks or so

              @detectivekillua:

              The gear 4 at the end is exciting! , but the breaks oda takes are very noticable , hope he gets better but it seems that he takes one every 3 weeks or so

              Please don't double post like that.

              @Thatanas:

              He is not sick, it's just a precaution (for quite some time already) so he gets frequent rest.

              As for Oda-san, to the best of my knowledge and understanding, he is not sick or on editor's orders, despite early assumption that the breaks were mandated after his hospital stay a couple years ago.

              It's simply a matter that at the age of 40, he's older than he used to be, (OP started 18 years ago! and still has 10-15 years to go!) older than any other author in the magazine aside from Kochi Kame's Akimoto-san, and is taking more frequent breaks to have an actual life and sleep more than 4 hours a night. Spend time with his wife and young children and all that.

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                So Doflamingo did really wait Luffy, i mean he knew that one day Luffy would come after him. The flashback hints that )

                How did you come to that conclusion, I think he was watching Luffy. I don't know about sensing a clash between them happening.
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                Theories about Gear 4 I've read:

                • super strenght slow speed (ussj)
                • super strenght with super speed? (ssj3)
                • ability to control size (ant-man style)
                • power of "admiral or above" for a short time (kaioken?)
                • hyper intuition (tsuna's style)/ INT mode
                • giant mode
                • full fire mode?

                Anyone got any other idea? 😄

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                Theories about Gear 4 I've read:

                • super strenght slow speed (ussj) - Super strength with slow speed would be useless since, Mingo is already faster than Gear 3. Hence how he was able to counter punch him.
                • super strenght with super speed? (ssj3) - I would say this is most likely it since Gear 3 was a combination of 2 and normal Luffy.
                • ability to control size (ant-man style) - I don't know why this would be useful
                • power of "admiral or above" for a short time (kaioken?) - Likely except this was was Gear 3 use to be, Gear 3 has basically just become a powerful attack and not a power up anymore. I think I put my money on this one.
                • hyper intuition (tsuna's style)/ INT mode - I doubt this one for the simple fact he doesn't need intuition, he is faster than Mingo. Mingo is just countering his moves right now, you can perform a feint or a fake shot at him. Wait for him to counter punch and then hit him. No need to go Gear 4 for that.
                • giant mode - Why a giant, unless you are thinking he will be a giant for a few pages then harness it and become Luffy again. Similar to the first transformation into SSJ4.
                • full fire mode? - Are you thinking he is channeling his inner Ace and all his attacks will burn. Only thing is we were recently introduced to another fire based character.

                I sure hope he has done this before in his training with Rayleigh and didn't think that Gear 2 would be enough to become Pirate King. Still trying to wrap my head around the chapter to come up with ideas on what Gear 4 will be. The only thing I do know is those glasses are going to get broken soon and that smug grin is coming off. I don't know if it is my DBZ days, but I hope we see a huge scene of Luffy transforming, something similar to the SSJ3 transformation.

                Another thing I want to point out is Mingo still has tricks up his sleeve and isn't nearly as bad off as Luffy, which means. Gear 4 more than likely won't be something he can sustain for long periods of time. Something to hurt Mingo pretty bad and hopefully lessen the power gap between each other. Luffy will go back to forcing himself to go Gear 2 because his body is going to be so spent from Gear 4.
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                Who says he is blowing his wrist? I figured he was whiping blood or something. I agree with the first part though, it will be something that maintains the speed of G2 and power of G3, but not something that just combines the two. That would be boring and unoriginal.

                Blowing his wrist, I thought he was just getting ready for the transformation.

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                  In two weeks we're getting a double release, so I guess thats a consolation for having no chapter next week.

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                    One thing interesting to me is Dofla talking about Luffy and the "Battle In Heaven". I'm presuming this isn't a complete translation misfire and Dofla is indeed referring to the fight against Eneru. How did Dofla know about this event? Is intelligence passed on to the World Government indicating they keep track of Skypeia? Or is this something that Bellamy told him about after his trip up there? I can see Dofla giving him his final chance for this rather than the pillar of gold.

                    Well a week to recover now and hope the next chapter keeps up the speed with the whole 'Gear 4' revelation. Not something I have the slightest idea of what it's going to be.

                    he is talking about marineford..the "battle at the summit"

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                      D-Do these people not know tense? My God, it was painful to read this and not because of the subject matter but that translation. Gods. It's a pity because with a good translation this would have been a really good chapter but, oh lordy… >.<;

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                        GEAR 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        It's been so long since I had this feeling reading One Piece!

                        feels so good after a long going story

                        "level up" … after the break

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                          Good chapter.

                          The fight and Law's resolution were nice, and the Caven + Barto combo is as good as ever. We also got to see a few secondary characters be useful again without taking too much space. And Doffy is clearly affected by Law's attack - to all the people who wrote it wouldn't affect him at all..

                          Honestly if Luffy was to defeat Doffy with his current powers before this chapter, an asspull would be required. He is on another level, and even Law was starting to look significantly stronger than Luffy. Gear 4 is warranted at this point.

                          As Doffy stated Luffy's attacks were fast but weak, we can assume he will increase his strenght without sacrificing speed. Someone suggested that it could be hardening himself with the trade-off being his elasticity, which honestly hasn't been working well so far. I also hope G2 and G3 will still continue to be explored, since there still seems to be possibilities with these. Therefore it would be warranted if G4 is the last or second to last gear in the series, depending on what it is.

                          And Trebol didn't even get half a page lol, not that it matters too much anyway.

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                            I loved the Theory posted a year or two years ago that Stated Gear fourth would be Luffy entirely covered in "flames" from his Haki. I think that would be badass and awesome.

                            Silvers Rayleigh was a real person who coated ships in the New World or on their way to the New World. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Raleigh

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                              OK, some quick thoughts:

                              • Cabbage to the rescue! I will admit that he was pretty cool in this chapter with him being the honorable guy and all.
                              • Seeing Law's speech about seeing Luffy defeating Doffy was very touching. ;_;
                              • Robin…...well the less I say about her, the better. -_-
                              • Fuck you, Doffy. Fuck you and your evil ass. -_-
                              • I really like the call back to the Alabasta arc.
                              • GEAR FOUR COMING SOON!!!!! 😄

                              Overall, this chapter was fairly good. 🙂

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                                D-Do these people not know tense? My God, it was painful to read this and not because of the subject matter but that translation. Gods. It's a pity because with a good translation this would have been a really good chapter but, oh lordy… >.<;

                                The MS translation isn't bad at all ?

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                                  Somehow, when the dialogue started, I had a feeling the chapter would end with Gear 4 cliffhanger.

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                                  I loved the Theory posted a year or two years ago that Stated Gear fourth would be Luffy entirely covered in "flames" from his Haki. I think that would be badass and awesome.

                                  I don't know, a little too Sanji.

                                  Besides, it's not much of a power up if your opponent keeps dodging your attacks.

                                  Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                  Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                  It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                    @Thatanas:

                                    Who says he is blowing his wrist? I figured he was whiping blood or something. I agree with the first part though, it will be something that maintains the speed of G2 and power of G3, but not something that just combines the two. That would be boring and unoriginal.

                                    well that's what i assumed as well , he performs the "fusen" technique by breathing in a lot of air hence i assumed that gear 3rd works the same way ..
                                    and no most likely it's not a combination between the two gears he's done that before against moriah if i recall right

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                                      We may not know exactly what it is or what type of Oda-science is behind it, but it's basically something that makes him fast like Gear 2nd and strong like Gear 3rd. Doflamingo specifically criticized Gear 2nd as being too weak, and Gear 3rd for being too easy to counter.

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                                        I am not an expert in understanding the properties of rubber or whether this method is possible but is there a way to compress rubber? Let's say we can compress a block of rubber 1 meter wide to half a meter. The more the molecules are together, the more dense and tough it would become. This is also possible due to the elasticity of rubber. If we have Luffy compress rubber into his fists, wouldn't it be able to provide a pretty strong punch?

                                        The disadvantage of course would be the compressed form cannot stay like that for long and it has to expand at some point of time since it takes quite a lot of energy to compress it in the first place.

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                                          Holy fuck the mangapanda translation this week was awful.

                                          I really like the chapter specially Cavendish and Luffy/Doflamingo conversation, hyped to see how gear 4 will be.

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                                          On the breaks guys he has been doing this for like 2 years now, people already said he has a mandatory break from his editors every month(dunno if its bs but I assume it isn't), you should be expecting the break dunno why you keep complaining at this point.

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                                            So Doflamingo already knew what Luffy was capable of. One way or another it is a challenge for him as well as he didn't manage to defeat Luffy until now (it seems that he's just having fun with the birdcage situation).

                                            I was wondering if Gear 4 would be an upgrade of Gear 2, but a resource that Luffy could only use once. Doflamingo said that he's weaker, so I think that Gear 4 would give Luffy a temporary up so he could use all the strenght he has left to beat Doflamingo down at once.

                                            Now I also guess that or this fight will end now or Oda will trick everybody and focus in Sabo and Koala before ending Luffy's fight.

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                                              Pfft.. Its obvious gear 4 will be a vulcanized luffy. He'll be akin to ebonite (hockey puck) fast, nimble and damaging, just 10 million times more destructive.

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                                                Gear Fourth being an extention of Gear Second doesn't seem very likely to me. Otherwise, why not just say you advanced your Gear Second technique?

                                                No, Gear Fourth, as it concerns this battle, has to be something that gives him a lot of power without sacrifising speed like Gear Third.

                                                And something he'll be able to combine with Gear Second. Speed + power.

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                                                  Doffy sauntering through the air, arms folded after taking a CoA Jet Bazooka to the chest…

                                                  ...dayuum, that man knows how to keep his cool.

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                                                    Maybe Luffy is gonna use his boogers as rubber bullets. All this time he's been picking his nose, he has actually been training for a proper ranged attack.

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                                                      Judging by Donflamingo's comments on Luffy's fighting, I'm guessing Gear 4 will be a mix of Gear 2's speed and Gear 3's power. I didn't expect that Gear 4 revelation though. Never do I read spoilers so it was a great surprise. The next couple of chapters should be tense and have a lot of action. Donflamingo says there's about an hour until the birdcage eliminates everyone, so the fight should last pretty long. I'm sure in the past a mere 2 minutes have been spread into 2-3 chapters. Hopefully Oda doesn't spread this fight out too much, but I'm expecting a minimum 3-4 chapters of fighting, and maybe some talk about Ds from Donflamingo. Then there'll be a twist, whether it's to do with Sabo, Fujitora, Big Mam's ship (though I think they might have taken Sanji & co hostage, and the rest of the crew will have a motive straight after this arc), Vergo may return, or Monet, or some other major character like Jack or a broker (but that's most likely build up for later arcs, typical Oda style). I'm liking how Luffy's will is showing now, and how we're seeing Donflamingo's fighting experience. These two will end up nearly killing each other, but Luffy's victory will most likely come through force of will.

                                                      Though there have been some illogical moments, this arc hasn't been all that bad. We've been introduced to some great characters like Cavendish and Bartolomeo. The worst part of the arc has been the disappointment of Donflamingo's crew, the best part has been the flashback (the tournament was a nice touch too). The Dressrosa Saga will be better perceived when it's over and people watch it as a whole, Punk Hazard included.

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                                                        so finally gear 4 pops up….. it just had too.

                                                        so my ideas on this vary the 1st one being a concentration on normal hand to hand combat without the use of his devil fruit. It would have been something he developed in case of a fight with blackbeard. 2nd idea is a haki based fighting technique using variations that include fire type, lighting type and stuff we havent seen yet...and a hint on what makes coc haki so special cuz it cant be just to make small fry faint (i can do the same with my farts). 3rd is an area of effect ability with his devil fruit, kinda like diamante who apart from having his body turn into a flag but can also affect any weapon he holds turning it into a flag.

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                                                          Next chapter Luffy will say this

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                                                          Cavendish was absolutely outstanding this chapter. Just awesome

                                                          Then we'll get an entire chapter dedicated to luffy powering up to gear 4th:ninja:

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                                                            I wonder when are we going to see gear 5. ( Assuming Gear 6 for the Blackbeard lol)

                                                            The chapter for Gear 2nd was numbered 387. Gear 4 chapter is 783.
                                                            That's the interesting part.
                                                            What's even more interesting is gear 3rds chapter.
                                                            Chapter is numbered 421.
                                                            4.2.1
                                                            It will go from gear 4 to gear 1 for Luffys next one.

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                                                              @Maju:

                                                              not really that much of a bulshit when you are talking about luffy,one who wuld not let anyone die,so it would probably be stuck protecting everyone instead of fighting doflamingo.

                                                              it's basically the same that happened with crocodile..sure the others were nearby, but damaged and really not able to not be a burden..so luffy went alone against croco

                                                              I've reread the chapter and I think the terrible translation doesn't help the least. Maybe a better one will alleviate the pain

                                                              But it doesn't explain everything. Part of my grief has to do with all the talking that disrupts the rythm of the fight - especially Luffy & the Robin group yelling at each other over half a mile. But there's really something about the battle choregraphy too. Last week's felt dynamic and interesting, whereas here it just look like they're pummeling each other while doing chit-chat. And what about Trebol ?

                                                              There's also a lot of stuff that makes the chapter feel redundant with previous ones yet could have been off-paneled. For example I don't think we absolutely needed to be told right on the spot that the dwarves will try and heal Law, neither did we have a need for a double spread showing the birdcage and explaining (again) what a threat it is. We've already had a dozen pages spread over several chapters to tell us that DoulaMongo is reaaally a big meanie who means to kill every last person on the island oh-my-god-isn't-he-awful-see-how-much-he-deserves-the-beatdown. We already know all of that, thank you dear author, now please get on with the bloody fight.

                                                              So, to sum it up, the chapter isn't bad per se. It's just that it didn't show much that is either new or unexpected, and as such leaves me more frustrated than content.

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                                                                Also @aohige_ap

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                                                                    How long has Oda been sick? It's since last year or so since I heard he's feeling under the weather.

                                                                    Thanks in advance!

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                                                                      Pretty good chapter. I'm a little iffed that Luffy apparently trusts Cabbage more than Robin, but thankfully it's just one panel. And damn, Doffy knows how to take a hit like a boss. Here's hoping the anime doesn't screw it up.

                                                                      And GEAR 4! Finally! The question is, is it a completely new technique, or is it a combination of the other ones?
                                                                      Will this forum survive two weeks of debating Gear 4?

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                                                                        very good chapter for me
                                                                        another great clifanger
                                                                        oda realy master in this.

                                                                        but next week have to break … WTF ??
                                                                        BUT WE NUST ENDURE firmula 4 chapter +1 break

                                                                        oda deserved rest his body

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                                                                        now is all we have,the past is over and tomorrow is not our to tell..:)

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                                                                          Pfft.. Its obvious gear 4 will be a vulcanized luffy. He'll be akin to ebonite (hockey puck) fast, nimble and damaging, just 10 million times more destructive.

                                                                          condensed muscle and his back will shape like a demon face, there will be no more stretch attacks.. luffy will fight like Hanma Baki-Son of the Ogre :ninja:

                                                                          My favourite manga:

                                                                          One Piece, Toriko, Naruto, Fairy Tail, Bleach, Kongou Banchou, Attack on Titan, Berserk, Claymore, One-punch man, Jojo Bizzare, Vagabond, Ravages of the Time, Hunter x Hunter, Eden-Endless World, Shigurui, Ichi the Killer, Homonculus, Gantz, etc..

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                                                                            We got to see everyone else and Law is now out of the way. The fighting was pretty cool and we get a new Gear. Should be fun.

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                                                                              I've reread the chapter and I think the terrible translation doesn't help the least. Maybe a better one will alleviate the pain

                                                                              But it doesn't explain everything. Part of my grief has to do with all the talking that disrupts the rythm of the fight - especially Luffy & the Robin group yelling at each other over half a mile. But there's really something about the battle choregraphy too. Last week's felt dynamic and interesting, whereas here it just look like they're pummeling each other while doing chit-chat. And what about Trebol ?

                                                                              There's also a lot of stuff that makes the chapter feel redundant with previous ones yet could have been off-paneled. For example I don't think we absolutely needed to be told right on the spot that the dwarves will try and heal Law, neither did we have a need for a double spread showing the birdcage and explaining (again) what a threat it is. We've already had a dozen pages spread over several chapters to tell us that DoulaMongo is reaaally a big meanie who means to kill every last person on the island oh-my-god-isn't-he-awful-see-how-much-he-deserves-the-beatdown. We already know all of that, thank you dear author, now please get on with the bloody fight.

                                                                              So, to sum it up, the chapter isn't bad per se. It's just that it didn't show much that is either new or unexpected, and as such leaves me more frustrated than content.

                                                                              I think it's more about giving us a clearer time table , getting law out the way and showing us why luffy need gear 4.
                                                                              Now that all of that is done we can get the full don vs luffy fight .

                                                                              TLG , FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 2015 the E3 of dreams .

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                                                                                Mangastream:

                                                                                Doflamingo: You're punches are fast however it's like you're trying to tickle me.

                                                                                Line of the arc.

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                                                                                Doffy sauntering through the air, arms folded after taking a CoA Jet Bazooka to the chest…

                                                                                ...dayuum, that man knows how to keep his cool.

                                                                                Actually an eagle bazooka (or hawk) same from last chapter. That was cool I must admit.

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                                                                                  I think it's more about giving us a clearer time table

                                                                                  Ha, don't mention that. Between the break and double issue, we'll only get a single chapter until the end of the month.
                                                                                  What a time table indeed, just when we're about to get some gear 4 action too. :sad:

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                                                                                    @DHL:

                                                                                    The chapter for Gear 2nd was numbered 387. Gear 4 chapter is 783.
                                                                                    That's the interesting part.
                                                                                    What's even more interesting is gear 3rds chapter.
                                                                                    Chapter is numbered 421.
                                                                                    4.2.1
                                                                                    It will go from gear 4 to gear 1 for Luffys next one.

                                                                                    1st gear is technically the strongest gear of a car…

                                                                                    Originally Posted by John Adams

                                                                                    I have always been dissatisfied, I know that. But lately I find I reek of discontentment; it fills my throat and floods my brain. Sometimes I fear there's no longer a dream but only the discontentment.

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                                                                                      Oh boy Gear 4. I remember 7 years ago there was a ton of "Gear 4" drawings right after the Water 7 arc, most of which involved either vulcanization or involved Luffy bouncing his strength around his body somehow. They all looked like shit.

                                                                                      Hope this one's better.

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                                                                                        Gear Fourth being an extention of Gear Second doesn't seem very likely to me. Otherwise, why not just say you advanced your Gear Second technique?

                                                                                        No, Gear Fourth, as it concerns this battle, has to be something that gives him a lot of power without sacrifising speed like Gear Third.

                                                                                        And something he'll be able to combine with Gear Second. Speed + power.

                                                                                        What i meant with an extension of gear second is exactly as you said. Gear second speed with more power. But then all of Luffy's hawk attacks are exactly that, so we're back to square one.

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                                                                                          Whats written on that old lady page 11? Top panel. Haha, my prediction on wadasume, jimbei and big mom is drawing near.

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                                                                                            Loved this chapter, but then Gear 4? Get a feeling so complicated 😕

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                                                                                              @game2005:

                                                                                              How long has Oda been sick? It's since last year or so since I heard he's feeling under the weather.

                                                                                              Thanks in advance!

                                                                                              Read through the f-ing thread man, it's been answered numerous times already.

                                                                                              Also, now that we know Dofla has been following Luffy since Alabasta…what was up with his 'he is just another pirate' comment?

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                                                                                                The name of this chapter is CAVENDISH!

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                                                                                                  @MadieV:

                                                                                                  What i meant with an extension of gear second is exactly as you said. Gear second speed with more power. But still all of Luffy's haw attacks were exactly that, so we're back to square one.

                                                                                                  Well, Luffy's natural power and speed, and Haki, as of yet, aren't equal to Doffy's. So he has to utilize his Fruit to increase his speed, and he always does. But now he'll need to utilize his fruit somehow to grant him this temporary strength boost

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                                                                                                    What Luffy actually meant:

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                                                                                                      @Robby:

                                                                                                      Do you remember the Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Crocodile, Enel, Foxy, Lucchi, Moria and Hody fights?

                                                                                                      Everyone standing back while Luffy does the heavy lifting is nothing new at all.

                                                                                                      Heck, even Usopp has been in that situation with Perona.

                                                                                                      I gotta admit, that's true. However, in the past there has been a bomb to find, shadows to retrieve, people to save, a ship/escape route to find … It didn't happen every time and not everyone was involved, but at least it felt like the rest of the crew was doing something until the end (at least that's how I remember those chapters - maybe reading them again would prove me wrong and I've simply changed my expectations over time). Whereas here the Birdcage is seemingly unstoppable, the Smile factory is already done for, and the action is pretty much over. So it reallys feels like they're going to join Fujitora on the picnic bench, which makes the device a bit forced for my taste.
                                                                                                      I know everyone did their share and had their time to shine, it's just that I don't like the idea that suddenly they're going to sit passively. Hopefully Oda has more in store that won't be the case.

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                                                                                                        Luffy will break the 4th wall to defeat Dofy

                                                                                                        @baby-boo:

                                                                                                        Well, Luffy's natural power and speed, and Haki, as of yet, aren't equal to Doffy's. So he has to utilize his Fruit to increase his speed, and he always does. But now he'll need to utilize his fruit somehow to grant him this temporary strength boost

                                                                                                        Pretty much, this chapter did say quite bluntly that Gear 2 is too weak and Gear 3 is too slow so Gear 4 will have to combine speed and power somehow.

                                                                                                        Gorlak wants you for the army

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