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      Trying really hard to not go through the season too fast, but damn, it's hard. Ended up watching 2/3 of it already and probably will finish it today either way.

      And, obviously, loving every bit of it. Every season I am hopeful they will end on the next one so the series won't lose its ways and drop in quality, but I suppose at this point I should just trust the writers to know better because they just keep getting better and better. And, yeah, the 6th episode deserves all the praise it can get.
      Btw, I had to pause for a whole minute after the "nickis" joke because of how hard I was laughing… I am laughing right now thinking of it.

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        Yeah I wasn't really feeling this at first but [hide]once Ana plays the tape to Diana shit gets fucking real.

        Speaking of which, the f-strike dropped this episode… so quick and brief but damn if it didn't sting, even if a bit slowly[/hide]

        And yes Free Churro is good shit

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          Unsolicited advice - if you're a Bojack fan, give Mad Men a try. Maybe if your favorite part of the show is the sight gags and animal people, this won't fit, but Don Draper and Bojack have much in common, and the same feeling of shallow, showy melancholy pervades the air of both programs.

          Favorite thing aside from One Piece is movies! Updated favorite films: The Passion of Joan of Arc / Alien / It's a Wonderful Life / Casablanca / One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest / The Apartment / Nights of Cabiria / Dr. Strangelove / All About Eve / Amadeus / Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

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            Yeah, Mad Men was my favorite show until I watched BoJack. There is so much in common between them, it's amazing. I actually see BoJack as Mad Men with animals and comedy inserted - and while the comedy is great, from the amazingly smart insights to the completely silly visual jokes, it is really the "Mad Men part" that makes this so good.

            Anyways, finished the season and, damn, they really managed to elevate this show even further. There are bits of it there are nothing short of genius (particularly how they handled the meta talking on episode 10).

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                There was a gag in the background of the restaurant in one of the last episodes that made me laugh a little too much. It was just so random. Having all these dark conversations and then weird animal jokes in the background definitely help take the edge off (sometimes). Mad Men didn't have a way to make some of the more dreary plots a tad more tolerable to get through.

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                  I just finished episode 6….Holy crap.

                  That episode didn't do much for me.

                  Like i enjoyed the concept of it, but the actual content just treaded water for me.

                  But i'm clearly the odd one out here

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                    @wolfwood:

                    That episode didn't do much for me.

                    Like i enjoyed the concept of it, but the actual content just treaded water for me.

                    But i'm clearly the odd one out here

                    I felt the same way. I think it's a strong episode and it merits award from Will Arnett's excellent execution in voice acting. But I don't see it staying with me.

                    Where Bojack excels for me are either episodes that balance the absurd with character depth, like "Let's Find Out!" or the episodes where they fully take advantage of being an animated show by having unique formats and jumps, like most of the episodes 11 from each season. Stuff like Downer Ending, That's too much man, and Time's Arrow. And in that sense, this season really delivered by combining that richness in imagery with tons of depth and hilariously absurd plot lines

                    ! Never imagined the Henry Fondle storyline would go so far, but I loved every minute of it.

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                        I think the end of Free Churro is the loudest I've laughed in a while.

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                        I have always been dissatisfied, I know that. But lately I find I reek of discontentment; it fills my throat and floods my brain. Sometimes I fear there's no longer a dream but only the discontentment.

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                          Episode 6 spoke to me cause

                          ! I've had an older relative die and I did not like her for most of my life. She made my parent's lives more difficult and she said rude stuff to us constantly. So I understood this sort of eulogy where you didn't have a loving relationship with whoever died. You know they had it touch but it's hard to let stuff they said go. Even if it was partially related to mental deterioration.

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                            I think Episode 6 is not meant to be something that works because you connect to it and it shakes you. They would probably have BoJack crying at some point if that was the intention. It is a 20 minutes soliloquy about human connection, emotional responsibility, accountability and, obviously, the specific importance of paternal figures. I could perfectly see they using this one as the show last episode because it seems to summarize so many of its themes, set them on a proper logic discurse and then conduct to the show's stance on them as a conclusion.

                            I also love how the series didn't gave in to the temptation of making amends and reconciling BoJack and Beatrice, something other writers would do.
                            Rather than trying to fix things with a "grand final gesture", they preferred to have that relationship end as what it always was. Can you think of any other series that would have the courage to have their main character and their mother to simply not love each other and end things that way? While there are tons of crappy fathers in fiction, mothers are always a safe haven. Not here. BoJack craves for the mother in Beatrice, but not for Beatrice as a person, which he despises. This reminds of We Need to Talk About Kevin: at a certain point, the main character states her husband's relation with their son is not truly legitimate because he loves their son unconditionally and unconditional love is not personal as it dictates you love someone not for who they are, but despite of that. Beatrice and BoJack disgust at each other as persons in a way means they both acknowledged each other for whom they were, not for the roles they portrayed of mother and son, and that weirdly makes their relationship much more intimate.

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                              Holy shit. This show is certainly something else. Whenever I think it can't get any more absurd in a wonderful way, it does just that.

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                                Netflix grants Bojack a smorgasbord of Jared Letos of fruits

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                                  Sometimes I'm amazed at how well this show is received. I'm glad they're getting a season 6.

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                                    I keep hearing this show is good, one of the best written on tv. I've watched the first few episodes and I just don't get it.

                                    Does it get significantly better after the first batch or is it just not for me?

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                                      The first four or so episodes aren't the best episodes of the series. Once it reach the 2nd half of Season 1, Bojack gets really good.

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                                        @Robby:

                                        I keep hearing this show is good, one of the best written on tv. I've watched the first few episodes and I just don't get it.

                                        Does it get significantly better after the first batch or is it just not for me?

                                        Yes. By the end of the first season, the series has shifted drastically. To say any more would be spoiling, suffice to say, it changes.

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                                          @Robby:

                                          I keep hearing this show is good, one of the best written on tv. I've watched the first few episodes and I just don't get it.

                                          Does it get significantly better after the first batch or is it just not for me?

                                          As Sano and Daz said, yes, it gets better. Wait till the end of the first season and if you're still not at least a little impressed then…yeah, I guess it's not for you.

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                                            Given that back in 2015 when Season 2 started one of the bigger talking points/reflections was how many reviewing outlets unintentionally screwed up by basing their Season 1 reviews on just the first 6 episodes (especially when it only got really good in the second half)…

                                            I mean, Futurama and Bob's Burgers didn't knock it right out the gate either, did they?

                                            guys if we get too gushy around Robby he's probably gonna end up disappointed again like with GF and Undertale 😞

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                                              Well, I'll keep going then I guess.

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                                              guys if we get too gushy around Robby he's probably gonna end up disappointed again like with GF and Undertale 😞

                                              Gravity Falls probably would have been better if I'd had time to stew on it and wonder and discuss it as it was running, rather than marathoning the whole series in a couple days when it was basically done.

                                              And Undertale was fine, but the community at large pushed and spoiled things that would have been better to discover organically. If I'd done a neutral run first and then WANTED to go back and do a pacifist run to see what happens probably would have been way more engaging than just being told "You have to do pacifist first!" which just led to frustration in some spots. It being sort of a looming order to play it that way instead of just my own curiosity hurt it some.

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                                                Few more episodes in. Yeah, the show changes pretty radically from what the first few episodes are. I… have no idea where this is going now.

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                                                  In the middle of season 3. Yeah, this is not the same show as what it started as. Glad I asked and then kept going.

                                                  Just got through the silent episode. That was something else.

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                                                    Bojack Horseman is finally coming out on bluray and dvd.

                                                    https://www.mediaplaynews.com/shout-factory-to-distribute-bojack-horseman-on-disc/

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                                                      And I'm caught up on the show. It… goes some places. Yikes.

                                                      Also, thing about how the themesong was made.
                                                      http://songexploder.net/bojack-horseman

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                                                        Not really Bojack, but the same creators are working on this thing that is…kind of Bojack.

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                                                          That doesn't seem as good…Or as interesting. It just seems weird...And kinda annoying.

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                                                            Yeah, birds with boobs are indeed uncanny.

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                                                              @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                                              That doesn't seem as good…Or as interesting. It just seems weird...And kinda annoying.

                                                              To be fair Bojack seemed like it'd be shit for like two whole episode.

                                                              Or maybe that was just me

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                                                                @wolfwood:

                                                                To be fair Bojack seemed like it'd be shit for like two whole episode.

                                                                Or maybe that was just me

                                                                No, that was everybody.

                                                                I mean, I never really had a problem with the early episodes, but maybe that's just because I knew there was much better stuff coming later.

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                                                                  @Cyclone_Baroness:

                                                                  That doesn't seem as good…Or as interesting. It just seems weird...And kinda annoying.

                                                                  Bojack looks pretty awful from the trailers too.

                                                                  And it takes half the first season to not be bad. And doesn't get downright good until a ways in.

                                                                  Have a little faith in the creative team.

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                                                                    @Robby:

                                                                    Bojack looks pretty awful from the trailers too.

                                                                    And it takes half the first season to not be bad. And doesn't get downright good until a ways in.

                                                                    Have a little faith in the creative team.

                                                                    I liked the overall concept of Bojack at the start. I also don't recall feeling season one was bad.

                                                                    But so far the Tucan annoys me. I'll probably still check it out. But the trailer didn't really have anything about it that I feel is fully interesting.

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                                                                      Bojack took me a couple episodes to get used to the world and art style, but it was firing on full cylinders from the start. I was intrigued, if not hooked, immediately. It's really the sharp wit and great sight gags that carry it consistently, irrespective of the overall great writing.

                                                                      Won't judge this new series but I'm definitely not motivated to check it out. I'd probably say the anthropomorphic animal thing was stupid in Bojack if it weren't for the amount of amazing animal-related jokes and puns they crammed in.

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                                                                        Eh. I'm just gonna wait for the general reaction on this one.

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                                                                          Yeah, I rank Bojack right up there with The Wire but never would have thought it would get there for me from like half of the first season. This doesn't have me very excited but I'm more than willing to give it its space.

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                                                                            Watched the first ep of Tuca and Bertie and I'm completely on board. Honestly enjoying it way more in one episode than I've ever enjoyed Bojack, but maybe that's just a taste thing. It has an infectious energy, a great soundtrack, really fun and clever animation, and some great comedic timing, all of which sells a premise that would absolutely bore me if done in live action. Definitely give it a try before writing it off as just more Bojack, because beyond some similar character design philosophy they really are different things.

                                                                            I do hope the animators got paid for that one, though.

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                                                                              @Wagomu:

                                                                              Watched the first ep of Tuca and Bertie and I'm completely on board. Honestly enjoying it way more in one episode than I've ever enjoyed Bojack, but maybe that's just a taste thing. It has an infectious energy, a great soundtrack, really fun and clever animation, and some great comedic timing, all of which sells a premise that would absolutely bore me if done in live action. Definitely give it a try before writing it off as just more Bojack, because beyond some similar character design philosophy they really are different things.

                                                                              I do hope the animators got paid for that one, though.

                                                                              That's funny, my girlfriend and I both watched the first episode and we had the same reaction: really not feeling it. I've never been a fan of Tiffany Haddish but after enjoying Bojack I was eager to give it a try. It's just got a completely different energy that's much zanier and kind of reminds me of 90's Nickelodeon cartoons. Might give it another try in a few weeks but it's a pretty hard pass for now.

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                                                                                Bojack Horseman Season 1 and Season 2 are coming to dvd and bluray on July 30th.

                                                                                https://www.shoutfactory.com/product/bojack-horseman-seasons-one-two-collector-s-edition?product_id=7110

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                                                                                  I didn't realize until this morning that Tiffany Haddish was in this and now I'm less interested lol. I really don't find her funny.

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                                                                                    Tuca and Bertie got cancelled 😠

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                                                                                      I reccomend Undone, it's an Amazon Prime animated series that is produced by the crew of Bojack Horseman. I'm five episodes into the series, the animation for the series is just amazing in my opinion.

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                                                                                        I reccomend Undone, it's an Amazon Prime animated series that is produced by the crew of Bojack Horseman. I'm five episodes into the series, the animation for the series is just amazing in my opinion.

                                                                                        Since I was fooled by this bump in the thread thinking it was a release date for the new season, I thought "well, why not take the bait to the end and watch what they are reccomending?"

                                                                                        So just binge-watched the whole season and it was nothing short of amazing. The only thing I disliked in all of it was that final scene (obvious spoiler under the tag):

                                                                                        ! I love open endings, but in this particular series I hated it. If not for those final 10 seconds, I would think it was perfect, but every single time series or movies go for a "mysterious portrayal" of schizophrenia and mental illness it is always the same thing: "was it all true? Was it all made up? We'll never know!". In this specific case, not giving a definite answer and going for the ambiguous ending is the common-place and feels like they are afraid to compromise rather than a brave original take.
                                                                                        But even with that: 10/10

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                                                                                          I reccomend Undone, it's an Amazon Prime animated series that is produced by the crew of Bojack Horseman. I'm five episodes into the series, the animation for the series is just amazing in my opinion.

                                                                                          The first 2 episode makes me want to punch the main character in the face. I hope this change as I go along.

                                                                                          Episode 5. It does get better as episodes goes in terms of character but now the mother is fairly 2 dimensional in the portrayal. The rest of the characters really improved in my opinion and I did manage to develop some sympathy for the main character. Also people in shows need to learn how to explain a difficult reality.

                                                                                          Finished. It was a fairly interesting show. It reminds me of legion of many ways. I liked Legion more but I also hated the end of legion mmuch more. In this one I'm just wondering how I feel about the choice they made. Both option have values but I think the one they didn't take asked more courage and more perfectly completed the arc. But this ending does invite to explore more. So while in legion I think they lost lost their way in that last episode in Undone it is simply a choice that appeal less to me but doesn't make the show necesarilly less good.

                                                                                          I can only think of one thing that was doing something similar to this story and commited
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                                                                                          ! A beautiful mind. And it was based on a real story.
                                                                                          ! I would have liked an originial taking that chance.

                                                                                          I'm glad they did some work on the mother. The focus on the priest in that one episode never ammounted to anything and it was strange.The boyfriend annoys me. He seems the type that repeat back what you just said in order for you to like him and incapable of his thoughts. Doesn't mean he wasn't used well at times and I understood why Alma connected to him.

                                                                                          Bumpy start for me but all in all worth the watch.

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                                                                                            … THE FINAL SEASON EVERYONE:

                                                                                            I've had very mixed feelings about Season 5 (suffice to say: I pinball between thinking its not far behind Seasons 3 and 4 in quality to thinking its the worst season since the first), so hearing that this is the last season brings a sort of hope to me.

                                                                                            Hoping you'll cap out with the greats like Gravity Falls, Adventure Time and Regular Show, Bojack (and Steven Universe if we're never getting that 6th season)

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                                                                                              Final season? Yeah, sounds right. A good spot for it to end.

                                                                                              [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                                                                                              I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                                                                                                What are the green things that Bojack is so pissed off to see?

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                                                                                                  Honeydew .

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                                                                                                    lol. Of course it is.

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                                                                                                      I think Netflix could be done for after this. They literally are ending and or losing every single interesting show they had lol.

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                                                                                                        @Captain:

                                                                                                        I think Netflix could be done for after this. They literally are ending and or losing every single interesting show they had lol.

                                                                                                        Not exactly, They still got MST3K, Miraculous Ladybug, The Dark Crystal, and the upcoming new He-Man series.

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