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      • Gia Sado
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        @andre:

        Seriously. I find him annoying too, but not so annoying that I have him blocked, because his takes tend to foster pretty good discussion from other people who are more reasonable. If he bothers you a lot, just block him. It's a great feature. Or not, I don't actually care about the arguing, but if you aren't using the block/ignore feature because you don't know about it, that was my endorsement.

        Hes not lol. I said what I said because its true. I question if he even likes the manga at this point

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          Oh come on! Thats the lamest answer ever

          I know people have a problem with food analogies sometimes but, well, they're relatable. Since most people like to eat generally, unless they're bulimic.

          So you go to a steak restaurant. They miscook it. You give them the benefit of the doubt. Some people might never go back just based on that. You're spending time (the most important resource) and money going there. So you go back again, they again don't cook it to your preference. After that, most people are done, it's time to take your business elsewhere. This makes sense, and is somewhat harsh, but still logical.

          What doesn't make sense is you like your steak Extra Well Done, like say Joy Boy or that JohnTraig guy. You go to a restaurant, they "miscook" it by cooking it Medium. You go again, same thing. All the while you complain. But you keep going back and spending time there to complain and getting… what, out of it, exactly? A complaint echo chamber? Validation? Steaks that you don't enjoy, so all the juices in the steak end up going to waste? There's no point.

          Croc or Enel would never.

          Wanna see the "ancient civilization destroyed" thing done really well? FFXIV did a great take on it. The bar's high for One Piece to beat.

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            Hes not lol. I said what I said because its true. I question if he even likes the manga at this point

            I like the manga and I’ve found Onigashima to be great except a few things.

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              How do you guys feel about rabbits that keep going for the food under the box and stick trap, like every week, and it always whines when the string is pulled. Because honestly.

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                @FelRes:

                How do you guys feel about rabbits that keep going for the food under the box and stick trap, like every week, and it always whines when the string is pulled. Because honestly.

                Now I'm imagining a bunch of Carrots falling to a box trap set by Doflamingo.

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                  Thought this here is the place to discuss Odas FujiTV interview with Arashi..

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                    Oda: 4-5 years left for One Piece !

                    My Twitter: https://twitter.com/ScotchInformer

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                      Oh, so each year is actually half a year. That makes more sense.

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                        @Sengokusgoat:

                        Oh, so each year is actually half a year. That makes more sense.

                        so 9 years left now

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                          The glorious five year plan marches on.

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                            nothing major in this interview. but at least, Oda still want to end the manga in 5-4 years.

                            My Twitter: https://twitter.com/ScotchInformer

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                              Here the part where Oda says he wants to finish One Piece in 4,5 years.


                              Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23

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                                Haha this cheeky fucker, love it!

                                Next time he will give us the exact number of days left, just to rub it in.

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                                  Well atleast that rules out the i don't trust second editor information stance.

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                                    4-5 years could mean 4 year and 1 month, which would be in perfect agreement with what he said in September 2019.

                                    I don't think it's gonna end so soon, but people are quick to joke about Oda's estimations, when in fact he's been pretty consistent most of the times.

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                                      So 4,5 years left for wano, elbaf, the island with the 4th road poneglyph, RAFTEL, final war, whatever shanks-dragon-vegapunk will get at this point. Maybe we are going back to start of the story type of few chapters arcs.

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                                        Here is my summary of Oda's TV interview in "Arashi Tsubo".😄

                                        Oda said he would like to finish OP in 4-5 years (again).

                                        He rarely goes to Jump office where today he witnessed his manuscript of chapter 1 for the first time in 23 years.

                                        Oda googles words such as “interesting manga” to find manga to read. lol

                                        ONE PIECE was rejected before serialization in editors’ meeting. Editor Asada told Oda that he was surprised to this news.
                                        Oda replied he was more surprised than anyone else because he was very confident with OP.

                                        Oda didn’t plan to bring his OP manuscript to Shonen Magazine or Sunday
                                        because he wanted to work on the same magazine as Akira Toriyama whom Oda has been respecting a lot.

                                        Oda doesn’t have an idea to draw another manga after OP.

                                        Oda’s meeting with editor via phone lasts at least 3-4 hours (12 hours at most).
                                        The meeting was so long that editor Hattori happened to fall asleep…

                                        When editor Sugita introduced to Oda as a new editor, Oda jokingly told him that he’d rather have an editor someone else.

                                        Oda loves spending money to smartphone game apps. For example, he spent much money to obtain “super rare Shanks”.

                                        Editor Sugita was frustrated due to the delay of manuscript, but when he read it, he couldn’t help crying.
                                        It was the chapter where Rebecca met Kyros. Oda said he also cried when drawing the chapter.
                                        He says his audience would not be moved to tears unless mangaka himself cries.

                                        Oda considers it genius about

                                        1 Shimohuri Myojo Seiya (Japanese comedian)
                                        2 Taiyo Matsumoto (mangaka)
                                        3 Anime staffs of “The World of Golden Eggs”

                                        Oda feels happy when

                                        1 He goes to health spa. Oda believes anyone who lives near health spa would be happy..
                                        2 He can successfully cook rare meat.
                                        3 Anime staffs have good relationship as if they are family members.

                                        Oda's favorite scene

                                        1 Wano opening
                                        2 Robin puts Mangrove’s tree sap to Usopp. Oda says it helps audience to feel as if OP world is real.3 Campfire scene in Skypiea arc.
                                        It was the scene Oda wanted to draw most in that arc.
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                                        Here is my translation of Oda's message about upcoming ONE PIECE books next month.

                                        Oda: Volume 97 will be on sale on 16th, September!! We'll soon reach volume 100!!
                                        Actually volume 97 was supposed to be out on 4th, September, but it was delayed due to COVID-19. Oops (・ω<)
                                        Illustration book "Tiger" (Color Walk) and "ONE PIECE Magazine" will be released on 16th, September as well.
                                        In short, 3 OP books will be out on the same day!!

                                        By the way, "Straw Hat Big Theater" will be released on the same day. It contains 13 3-page-short mangas I drew long ago.
                                        It will be available only via digital book. It costs only about 2 dollars, but it's entertaining to read!

                                        Also, "ONE PIECE Comics Box Set" will be out on 4th, September without delay.
                                        Thus, those 3 books I mentioned above will be delayed!! Thank you for your support!!


                                        Oda and 2 Japanese idols named Takuya Kimura and Kazuya Kamenashi make a collaboration drawings for LINE (message app) stamp in "Johnny's Smile Up! Project".
                                        The project is supposed to be a donation for health care workers regarding COVID-19. Here is my translation of Oda’s comment.

                                        Oda: Drawings reflect his/her personality. I'm "Smile Up!" (happy) about the heartwarming drawings by Kimura and Kamenashi,
                                        both of whom would rarely draw illustrations. Thanks to their kindness, we are able to make a collaboration via ONE PIECE! I hope my audience will use our LINE Stamps!


                                        A week ago, Oda sent a message to the students of his hometown, Kumamoto.
                                        The purpose was to encourage students who are suffering from this current situation about COVID-19.
                                        Here is my translation of his message.

                                        Oda: There is something called "backlash" in this world. Even though our time is currently being stopped, I'm sure it will restart intensely.
                                        Stop reading manga and prepare for your own future. (TN: entrance examination, sport competition etc) You can do it!!

                                        https://twitter.com/sandman_AP (ENG)

                                        https://twitter.com/sandman_alt (JPN)

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                                          @sandman:

                                          Oda said he would like to finish OP in 4-5 years (again).

                                          Oh okay, so he wasn't saying 4 years 6 months. That's less cheeky, but still a little bit.

                                          Thanks for the translation sandman!

                                          Robin puts Mangrove’s tree sap to Usopp

                                          Anyone remembers when that happened?

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                                            @Vast:

                                            4-5 years could mean 4 year and 1 month, which would be in perfect agreement with what he said in September 2019.

                                            I don't think it's gonna end so soon, but people are quick to joke about Oda's estimations, when in fact he's been pretty consistent most of the times.

                                            Actually, he said it in August 2019.

                                            But that's just a technicality. The fact is he's not even sure he will end it in 4 years, extending to 5 if necessary. Maybe more if the prospect of 30th year anniversary entices him.

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                                            Anyone remembers when that happened?

                                            When they landed in Sabaody. Pappag was doing one of his signature expositions.

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                                              Not sure why some people _wan_t the manga to end quickly. I guess to be proven right. 'I'd rather be unhappily proven right than happily proven wrong!' lol

                                              Anyway, I still don't believe it. He only gives the answer because he's asked. It's not like he makes the announcement of his own volition. And at this point, it's a stock answer, and I still don't believe it. It's not even about the 'Oda's never right about his estimates' thing. Even if Oda just throws every remaining storyline together into a single arc following Wano and cuts a bunch of things, I really don't believe he could end it that quickly.

                                              Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook, Jimbei, Carrot, Vivi, Smoker

                                              "ONE PIECE, IT EXISTS" - The Great Pirate Edward Newgate

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                                                The noose keeps tightening ever so slightly.

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                                                  @King:

                                                  When they landed in Sabaody. Pappag was doing one of his signature expositions.

                                                  Thank you, the internet wasn't exactly helpful

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                                                    @Vongola_Boss_XI:

                                                    Not sure why some people _wan_t the manga to end quickly.

                                                    ^ This!

                                                    I would be happy if it kept going for another 10 or more. The end is the end, why wish for it to come?

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                                                      Our friend sandman posted a full summary of Arashi x Eiichiro Oda interview on Twitter!!







                                                      Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23

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                                                        "A lot of interesting thing Oda still wants to draw"

                                                        This is way more important than any time estimate. Oda's still enjoying the writing process for One Piece and he's not going to cut major corners or skip over things that he wants to draw to meet some arbitrary estimate he gave as an answer in an interview only because someone asked.

                                                        Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Robin, Franky, Brook, Jimbei, Carrot, Vivi, Smoker

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                                                          @Vongola_Boss_XI:

                                                          Not sure why some people _wan_t the manga to end quickly. I guess to be proven right. 'I'd rather be unhappily proven right than happily proven wrong!' lol

                                                          Anyway, I still don't believe it. He only gives the answer because he's asked. It's not like he makes the announcement of his own volition. And at this point, it's a stock answer, and I still don't believe it. It's not even about the 'Oda's never right about his estimates' thing. Even if Oda just throws every remaining storyline together into a single arc following Wano and cuts a bunch of things, I really don't believe he could end it that quickly.

                                                          Simple, a lot of people recognize that the future is uncertain.

                                                          Anything can happen, we might die or Oda might die before completing the story.

                                                          Or, every year that passes by, we all become older and priorities in life shift. 5-6 years from now, this little children's story might not be as compelling or interesting to read and there is nothing sadder than not finishing a story simply because you became too old for it.

                                                          HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

                                                          ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                                                            ^ This!

                                                            I would be happy if it kept going for another 10 or more. The end is the end, why wish for it to come?

                                                            Who wouldn't. But it isn't really about what the fans want, which is sort of the point being driven home by the authors out loud stated intent to end it much sooner than fans have estimated.

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                                                              @kevo_koma:

                                                              Simple, a lot of people recognize that the future is uncertain.

                                                              Anything can happen, we might die or Oda might die before completing the story.

                                                              Or, every year that passes by, we all become older and priorities in life shift. 5-6 years from now, this little children's story might not be as compelling or interesting to read and there is nothing sadder than not finishing a story simply because you became too old for it.

                                                              I can't really relate to that at all. Yes, it's uncertain. No guarantee we'll see tomorrow. But why have a lesser version of something immediately than a better version in time? Why wait for anything? Why not just give us cliff notes?

                                                              And I can't relate to the fear of not liking One Piece anymore. I've been enjoying the series for 17 years now.

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                                                              Who wouldn't. But it isn't really about what the fans want, which is sort of the point being driven home by the authors out loud stated intent to end it much sooner than fans have estimated.

                                                              I really don't think that's the message Oda's trying to send. I think this is a perfunctory answer to a question he's inevitably asked in interviews. I don't know if he even believes 4 - 5 years is a possibility.

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                                                              "ONE PIECE, IT EXISTS" - The Great Pirate Edward Newgate

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                                                                He literally had Naito (I think it was? Some editor) go back on his word after he said basically the same thing you're saying. Obviously it's just an estimate, but he knows better than us how much is left and what he wants/needs to draw. In his mind he's probably calculating like '1 more year for Wano', '1 year for other stuf', '2 years for the epic finale'. And sure, maybe in his minds a year is bigger content-wise than the 40 or so chapters we actually get, so that might be an extra year, and another one because stuff happens, etc but saying 'oh, he doesn't actually mean this thing he's saying and even insisting on' is just living in denial at this point.

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                                                                  Doubt anybody cried with Rebecca

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                                                                    That was touching as fuck. I shed a few small ones.

                                                                    Tho' nothing will ever, ever beat Merry's death. Nothing. Not even sad dog movies. Hands down, for me, that's the best moment of OP

                                                                    Edir: and to keep things on track, nice interview. I respect his decision to not show his face. And how cool that he also thinks that Skypiea camp fire was awesome, me too. For the longest time it was my wallpaper.

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                                                                      @FatDogForMidTerms:

                                                                      That was touching as fuck. I shed a few small ones.

                                                                      Tho' nothing will ever, ever beat Merry's death. Nothing. Not even sad dog movies. Hands down, for me, that's the best moment of OP

                                                                      Edir: and to keep things on track, nice interview. I respect his decision to not show his face. And how cool that he also thinks that Skypiea camp fire was awesome, me too. For the longest time it was my wallpaper.

                                                                      Shed tears about what exactly ? Rebecca being one of Oda's worst characters ?

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                                                                        Dude, you gotta chill with that aggro tone. It's not going to get you points, this isn't elementary school or whatever.

                                                                        I didn't have a problem with Rebecca and her reuniting with Kyro was touching af.

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                                                                          @FatDogForMidTerms:

                                                                          Dude, you gotta chill with that aggro tone. It's not going to get you points, this isn't elementary school or whatever.

                                                                          I didn't have a problem with Rebecca and her reuniting with Kyro was touching af.

                                                                          Right. I don't love the Rebecca character, but the story with Kyros/The Tin Soldier was great. Her problem was there wasn't much to her personality.

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                                                                            Yeah, and I mean…

                                                                            When someone says something was touching to them, who's response to that is, like, "EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!".

                                                                            I don't know man, shit's emotinal and sometimes it works ???? what do you want lol

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                                                                              Yeah, and I mean…

                                                                              When someone says something was touching to them, who's response to that is, like, "EXPLAIN YOURSELF!!".

                                                                              I don't know man, shit's emotinal and sometimes it works ???? what do you want lol

                                                                              It's not that hard. Oda says he moved to tears with Rebecca. He also says that an audience will cry if the author cries. Rebecca is one of Oda's worst characters in the entire series, the Riku family being an entire stain to Dressrosa. This to me just further proves that either he is out of touch with the audience or he simply doesn't care.

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                                                                                It's not that hard. Oda says he moved to tears with Rebecca. He also says that an audience will cry if the author cries. Rebecca is one of Oda's worst characters in the entire series, the Riku family being an entire stain to Dressrosa. This to me just further proves that either he is out of touch with the audience or he simply doesn't care.

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                                                                                  It's not that hard. Oda says he moved to tears with Rebecca. He also says that an audience will cry if the author cries. Rebecca is one of Oda's worst characters in the entire series, the Riku family being an entire stain to Dressrosa. This to me just further proves that either he is out of touch with the audience or he simply doesn't care.

                                                                                  How cute that you think you represent the general audience. 😄

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                                                                                    @Joy:

                                                                                    It's not that hard. Oda says he moved to tears with Rebecca. He also says that an audience will cry if the author cries. Rebecca is one of Oda's worst characters in the entire series, the Riku family being an entire stain to Dressrosa. This to me just further proves that either he is out of touch with the audience or he simply doesn't care.

                                                                                    Worked for me 🙂 aaaaaand I happen to like that royal family soooooo… Turns out people's tastes are different? Whoa, dude.

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                                                                                      @Claudio:

                                                                                      How cute that you think you represent the general audience. 😄

                                                                                      Well i am not a Rebecca hater but its pretty well know that she is not very loved by the fans to say the least

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                                                                                      Not sure why some people _wan_t the manga to end quickly. I guess to be proven right. 'I'd rather be unhappily proven right than happily proven wrong!' lol

                                                                                      Anyway, I still don't believe it. He only gives the answer because he's asked. It's not like he makes the announcement of his own volition. And at this point, it's a stock answer, and I still don't believe it. It's not even about the 'Oda's never right about his estimates' thing. Even if Oda just throws every remaining storyline together into a single arc following Wano and cuts a bunch of things, I really don't believe he could end it that quickly.

                                                                                      He will keep saying it until you guys finally accept it. We are close to the end,thats the main point. Then he will probably take 7 years instead of 5 to end the manga but the point is that the manga is close to the end.

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                                                                                        @Joy:

                                                                                        It's not that hard. Oda says he moved to tears with Rebecca. He also says that an audience will cry if the author cries. Rebecca is one of Oda's worst characters in the entire series, the Riku family being an entire stain to Dressrosa. This to me just further proves that either he is out of touch with the audience or he simply doesn't care.

                                                                                        Oda is a father. He probably has a different perspective from you.

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                                                                                          oh nooooo another cool thread hijacked by a really fucking dumb blanket statements and arguments.

                                                                                          sorry guys, i'm partly to blame.
                                                                                          one last lesson, kids: don't ask anyone aggressively to explain themself. feelings are feelings and if someone thinks something is cool just accept it. not everything can be broken down autistically to one hundred small points to explain your point of view.

                                                                                          Anyway, please carry on talking about the interview.

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                                                                                            @Joy:

                                                                                            It's not that hard. Oda says he moved to tears with Rebecca. He also says that an audience will cry if the author cries. Rebecca is one of Oda's worst characters in the entire series, the Riku family being an entire stain to Dressrosa. This to me just further proves that either he is out of touch with the audience or he simply doesn't care.

                                                                                            It's amazing that within a few posts of people saying how they were touched by the story (these people representing a segment of the audience), you're so sure of your own opinion as fact (and representative of the entire audience) that you think it is literal proof of Oda's incompetence. No one has (or will) ever write anything that resonates with everyone in the world or their audience, but Oda has hit lots of homers and it's quite disingenuous to think that he has lost the ability to pull emotional heartstrings or that he doesn't care.

                                                                                            I actually think the Kyros Rebecca storyline is one of the more emotional resonant ones in the last 10 years. It was given time and space to develop and only suffers from Rebecca being a bit lackluster personality-wise (which I'd argue Vivi is as well). Since then, there have been stories as good, but the forward progression of the story haven't allowed them the same amount of room to marinate. Then again, Oda was able to make Senior Pink's flashback resonate in just one chapter, so maybe you're just the oddball in his audience who he's completely out of touch with?

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                                                                                              @NamiRobinFrankyAce:

                                                                                              Well i am not a Rebecca hater but its pretty well know that she is not very loved by the fans to say the least

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                                                                                              He will keep saying it until you guys finally accept it. We are close to the end,thats the main point. Then he will probably take 7 years instead of 5 to end the manga but the point is that the manga is close to the end.

                                                                                              And I still won't believe it. I think he's saying what he thinks readers want to hear. It's like when a parent asks how long it'll take to finish your homework. My mom used to ask all the time. And I'd say '2 - 3 hours', knowing full well that was an unrealistically optimistic estimate and that, in reality, '6 to 7, maybe 8 hours' was the real answer.

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                                                                                                @andre:

                                                                                                It's amazing that within a few posts of people saying how they were touched by the story (these people representing a segment of the audience), you're so sure of your own opinion as fact (and representative of the entire audience) that you think it is literal proof of Oda's incompetence. No one has (or will) ever write anything that resonates with everyone in the world or their audience, but Oda has hit lots of homers and it's quite disingenuous to think that he has lost the ability to pull emotional heartstrings or that he doesn't care.

                                                                                                I actually think the Kyros Rebecca storyline is one of the more emotional resonant ones in the last 10 years. It was given time and space to develop and only suffers from Rebecca being a bit lackluster personality-wise (which I'd argue Vivi is as well). Since then, there have been stories as good, but the forward progression of the story haven't allowed them the same amount of room to marinate. Then again, Oda was able to make Senior Pink's flashback resonate in just one chapter, so maybe you're just the oddball in his audience who he's completely out of touch with?

                                                                                                The only guy who said he liked that stuff is MidTerms who basically just likes everything. The dude admits Oda could have Luffy one shot Kaido and Big Mom and he would still like it.

                                                                                                Also don't compare Senor to Rebecca. Senor's story was just so compelling, it was a true tragedy. He also really awesome. Rebecca on the other hand as I said and her entire plot was one of the worst things of the arc. She was a walking nude fanservice that Oda turned into an utterly useless crybaby. I ain't shedding a tear with her.

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                                                                                                Oda is a father. He probably has a different perspective from you.

                                                                                                Oda can cry yes that doesn't mean the audience did.

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                                                                                                  @Joy:

                                                                                                  The only guy who said he liked that stuff is MidTerms who basically just likes everything. The dude admits Oda could have Luffy one shot Kaido and Big Mom and he would still like it.
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                                                                                                  That would be insanely entertaining, yes.

                                                                                                  ugh i'm so weak sorry guys

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                                                                                                    Well i am not a Rebecca hater but its pretty well know that she is not very loved by the fans to say the least

                                                                                                    And who do you mean by "fans"? People on the internet who read the manga in English? That is a very small part of all the people who read One Piece.

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                                                                                                      Not sure why some people _wan_t the manga to end quickly. I guess to be proven right. 'I'd rather be unhappily proven right than happily proven wrong!' lol
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                                                                                                      Even if I like the manga a lot, if Oda can finish it in a satisfying way in a relative short time I'm all for it. Stories need to end one day, and that is as much for the author as for the readers.

                                                                                                      As for Rebecca, well I would certainly won't put that scene in the ones I would really care for. But I'm biaised with Dressrosa…

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                                                                                                        @Joy:

                                                                                                        The only guy who said he liked that stuff is MidTerms who basically just likes everything. The dude admits Oda could have Luffy one shot Kaido and Big Mom and he would still like it.

                                                                                                        I liked the story. Dressrossa dragged a bit, but the Kyros and Rebecca story was touching. Other people have said the same thing since your post. Also, here's a video with 33,000 views, 280 likes and 3 dislikes showing Rebecca and Kyros being reunited:

                                                                                                        Here's a reaction video with over 100,000 views and 3.6thousand likes vs. 62 dislikes all about Rebecca and Kyros being reunited. The comments are filled with people who were touched by it:

                                                                                                        Here's a video with 177,000 views 848 likes and 21 dislikes showing Rebecca's past. Comments are filled with people moved to tears:

                                                                                                        MidTerms is not alone.

                                                                                                        Also don't compare Senor to Rebecca. Senor's story was just so compelling, it was a true tragedy. He also really awesome. Rebecca on the other hand as I said and her entire plot was one of the worst things of the arc. She was a walking nude fanservice that Oda turned into an utterly useless crybaby. I ain't shedding a tear with her.

                                                                                                        Read more carefully. I'm not comparing the two characters, I'm comparing Oda's ability to create sequences that are emotionally impactful. You said that his belief in the Rebecca sequence was proof that he's out of touch or doesn't care, but just a chapter or two before their first reunion is the Senor Pink flashback, which you are admitting was a compelling true tragedy. So either Oda chooses specific instances not to care and not be in touch with his audience, or you can admit that sometimes you just don't like the things he makes or he makes a mistake. There's a big difference between thinking an author did something wrong and saying that they're willfully negligent to their creation/incompetent.

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