Nah i am pretty sure, even agreed with him after seeing movie z
Your surety or lack thereof counts for nothing. I can't touch it, I can't measure it, I can't read it, I don't know you. What I can verify, he has said the opposite.
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Nah i am pretty sure, even agreed with him after seeing movie z
Your surety or lack thereof counts for nothing. I can't touch it, I can't measure it, I can't read it, I don't know you. What I can verify, he has said the opposite.
What Oda says publicly and what he feels privately are two different things.
Oda could never blatantly say, "I don't like or agree with what these people whom I call friends and business partners are doing."
What you read in an SBS or otherwise that has anything to do with business relations are carefully and lovingly constructed PR comments.
So is everything false? No, of course not.
But one must understand that if Oda is praising someone he has an on-going working relationship with, he's never going to speak any form of ill-will because he understands just how much weight his words carry.
There's no black and white here, it's all in the greys.
I can't help but think about how frustrated chibi-Greg must've been before he figured out these a polite maybe means a hard no social codes.
What Oda says publicly and what he feels privately are two different things.
Oda could never blatantly say, "I don't like or agree with what these people whom I call friends and business partners are doing."
What you read in an SBS or otherwise that has anything to do with business relations are carefully and lovingly constructed PR comments.
So is everything false? No, of course not.
But one must understand that if Oda is praising someone he has an on-going working relationship with, he's never going to speak any form of ill-will because he understands just how much weight his words carry.
There's no black and white here, it's all in the greys.
Quite certainly. I do not believe Oda would make any comments disparaging the anime and stuff, which is why I presumed the other commenter must have been confused.
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What Oda says publicly and what he feels privately are two different things.
Oda could never blatantly say, "I don't like or agree with what these people whom I call friends and business partners are doing."
What you read in an SBS or otherwise that has anything to do with business relations are carefully and lovingly constructed PR comments.
So is everything false? No, of course not.
But one must understand that if Oda is praising someone he has an on-going working relationship with, he's never going to speak any form of ill-will because he understands just how much weight his words carry.
There's no black and white here, it's all in the greys.
Quite certainly. I do not believe Oda would make any comments disparaging the anime and stuff, which is why I presumed the other commenter must have been confused.
What Oda says publicly and what he feels privately are two different things.
Oda could never blatantly say, "I don't like or agree with what these people whom I call friends and business partners are doing."
What you read in an SBS or otherwise that has anything to do with business relations are carefully and lovingly constructed PR comments.
So is everything false? No, of course not.
But one must understand that if Oda is praising someone he has an on-going working relationship with, he's never going to speak any form of ill-will because he understands just how much weight his words carry.
There's no black and white here, it's all in the greys.
To make a distinction with the characters in the stories he has no part in and the manga is hardly criticizing in my book.
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Your surety or lack thereof counts for nothing. I can't touch it, I can't measure it, I can't read it, I don't know you. What I can verify, he has said the opposite.
Similarly i hardly care about the SBS quote you brought up which had no relation to what i actually said.
And i am not trying to convince you, couldn´t care to be honest, just thought you could disprove what i remembered, you didn´t.
What Oda says publicly and what he feels privately are two different things.
Oda could never blatantly say, "I don't like or agree with what these people whom I call friends and business partners are doing."
What you read in an SBS or otherwise that has anything to do with business relations are carefully and lovingly constructed PR comments.
So is everything false? No, of course not.
But one must understand that if Oda is praising someone he has an on-going working relationship with, he's never going to speak any form of ill-will because he understands just how much weight his words carry.
There's no black and white here, it's all in the greys.
Greg, your posts are usually very informative and relevant, not this one.
Very few authors will shit on the adaptations of their works, even if they disagree with certain parts of it, that's a given. The discussion here was about what Oda said publicly, what is factual, not a random guess in how he feels.
To make a distinction with the characters in the stories he has no part in and the manga is hardly criticizing in my book.
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Similarly i hardly care about the SBS quote you brought up which had no relation to what i actually said.
And i am not trying to convince you, couldn´t care to be honest, just thought you could disprove what i remembered, you didn´t.
Dude, that's not how a discussion works. At least not a good one.
You claimed something and provided zero proof to back it up. On the other hand, ea77 got an official quote that claims the opposite. It's not the other party that holds the duty to prove all the random things you say are wrong, it's you who has the responsability to prove your claims.
Taking this to an extreme, your case hold not hold up in court.
I know it's just a small discussion you're all having to pass a bit of time, I'm personally not that invested in how much Oda likes the anime adaptation either, I'm sure he sees high points and low points like most fans, but that's no reason to suck at arguing and defending one's point of view.
Greg, your posts are usually very informative and relevant, not this one.
Very few authors will shit on the adaptations of their works, even if they disagree with certain parts of it, that's a given. The discussion here was about what Oda said publicly, what is factual, not a random guess in how he feels.Dude, that's not how a discussion works. At least not a good one.
You claimed something and provided zero proof to back it up. On the other hand, ea77 got an official quote that claims the opposite. It's not the other party that holds the duty to prove all the random things you say are wrong, it's you who has the responsability to prove your claims.
Taking this to an extreme, your case hold not hold up in court.I know it's just a small discussion you're all having to pass a bit of time, I'm personally not that invested in how much Oda likes the anime adaptation either, I'm sure he sees high points and low points like most fans, but that's no reason to suck at arguing and defending one's point of view.
It wasn´t a discussion though
Well, ok.
But now I am curious to know what word do you use to describe the conversation that happend.
Dude, that's not how a discussion works. At least not a good one.
You claimed something and provided zero proof to back it up. On the other hand, ea77 got an official quote that claims the opposite. It's not the other party that holds the duty to prove all the random things you say are wrong, it's you who has the responsability to prove your claims.
Taking this to an extreme, your case hold not hold up in court.
I think what MM is saying is that he just added that bit of info (which he made clear he was unsure about) as a side-note of his opinion. Then ea77 jumped in trying to prove him wrong and when MM made clear he was not changing his mind on the matter, ea77 acted (in a quite rude manner, btw) like it was MM who was trying to convince them of his opinion and lacked the objective proofs to do so.
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I think what MM is saying is that he just added that bit of info (which he made clear he was unsure about) as a side-note of his opinion. Then ea77 jumped in trying to prove him wrong and when MM made clear he was not changing his mind on the matter, ea77 acted (in a quite rude manner, btw) like it was MM who was trying to convince them of his opinion and lacked the objective proofs to do so.
I may have been brusque, but I'm not sure about rude.
He said X.
I said: X sounds like something fan's make up, he actually said Y, which is the opposite of X.
He said: Y was years before he said X.
I said: Well I have no evidence he said X, and neither do you.
He said: "Nah, I'm pretty sure" –> WHich you somehow misread as "Made it pretty clear he was unsure about."
And I said: Being sure or unsure doesn't mean anything without receipts.
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To make a distinction with the characters in the stories he has no part in and the manga is hardly criticizing in my book.
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Similarly i hardly care about the SBS quote you brought up which had no relation to what i actually said.
And i am not trying to convince you, couldn´t care to be honest, just thought you could disprove what i remembered, you didn´t.
The SBS quote is the closest thing to what you said that I could find, hence why it is possible you misremembered and inverted it and I've checked the Movie Z interviews, Movie Gold interviews, etc.
Aside from it being unlikely that an author who's a producer of said movie to say that in public, the fact that he said the opposite and you have 0 evidence backing your claim is curious. I don't really care about this, I just popped in assuming you made an honest mistake. If you're pretty sure, we have Google in 2020. It should be trivial to find the source within minutes at most. I look forward to being corrected.
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I think what MM is saying is that he just added that bit of info (which he made clear he was unsure about) as a side-note of his opinion. Then ea77 jumped in trying to prove him wrong and when MM made clear he was not changing his mind on the matter, ea77 acted (in a quite rude manner, btw) like it was MM who was trying to convince them of his opinion and lacked the objective proofs to do so.
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Good summary.
@.access:
I think what MM is saying is that he just added that bit of info (which he made clear he was unsure about) as a side-note of his opinion. Then ea77 jumped in trying to prove him wrong and when MM made clear he was not changing his mind on the matter, ea77 acted (in a quite rude manner, btw) like it was MM who was trying to convince them of his opinion and lacked the objective proofs to do so.
I did not found ea77 to be rude but I guess that's in the eyes of the beholder.
In any case, I have no qualms with MM's opinion.
The question here centered around Oda's opinion, and that's something we can only verify with interviews and such. ea77 presented an SBS excerpt where Oda stated his overall enjoyment of the anime and MM says there is an interview where Oda states the opposite, until said interview is found ea77 is right on this matter.
Btw, going back to the original discussion.
I understand Oda saying he looses a bit of will or patience drawing something that showed up in the anime before, the man loves big surprises and reveals. The second version of Romance Dawn had Garp giving Luffy his fruit instead of Shanks so people would be surprised when serialization began and then he hid Garp's face under a dog shaped hat or balaclava so that fans wouldn't see the same design used in Romance Dawn 2 and understand right away he was Luffy's grampa.
But japanese authors enjoy much more freedom and veto powers than it's usual in the western world, that stuff is negotiated in the contracts.
Alan Moore hates that companies keep adapting his comic books into movies and the only thing he can do about it is making sure his name doesn't appear in the credits, whereas a couple decades ago there was movie adaptation of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: part 1 which the original author, Araki, found so bad he forbade all future comercial releases beyond the initial release. You cannot buy or legally find that movie anywhere.
Oda himself choose specific voice actors for some characters, like Luffy and Franky, and I'd bet he still gives the final approvement for the voices of important new characters. He also approves which devil fruits the anime can invent and use (SBS, volume 37), and made sure to tell the anime directors not to have Shanks and Buggy call ,the at the time unnamed, Rayleigh captain, in Buggy's flashback (SBS volume 49), so I'd bet again that he's given the plot summaries of filler arcs and the likes to approve and make sure they're not gonna break anything important in the overall story.
So, ignoring some minutiea details, if something is in a film or anime episode it got the OK by Oda and he probably though: yeah, that doesn't damage my story and seems fun enough for the kids. But going back to the "Oda loves surprises" part, I can easilly imagine the meeting betwen him, his editors and the anime directors trying to convince him to give them just a little of the main story to hype the movie up.
He also drew the supernovas, post timeskip, before they appeared in the manga again, for some other project. The image is easily found but I couldn't confirm where it first appeared. And he gives little tidbits about future events when he attends Jump Festa.
He puts the manga series and his story above every other medium or adaptation but he also knows that dropping a bit of hype outside of it from time to time is a good business model.
Being able to write this story weekly, while keeping the larger plot in mind, give input for anime, movies and a live action show gotta be ridiculous. This is partially why I don't get frustrated when there's a break week. Not saying all chapter breaks mean Oda's on break. His schedule now seems enough to keep him active tho.
I remember 3 years ago, on the Discord server, saying that it would be dope for Oda to take a year off and people were LIVID lol
Ideal for me:
Here is my translation of Oda’s interview about General Franky. The interview was included as a set of General Franky character figure released in 2013.
Thanks so much redon for kindly sharing amazing pics with us via Twitter!
https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23/status/1222198468346810368
Question: You told us many detailed gimmicks of General Franky before we started creating this figure. What do you think about this finished product?
Oda: When I created General Franky, I kept in mind that I should make his transformation look as physically plausible as possible,
but I wasn’t sure if it really would work well. In this regard, the staffs did a decent job as a professional. Thank you so much!
Question: Why did you decide to make General Franky appear in manga?
Oda: Actually I wanted to draw Robot manga after finishing OP, but I was not sure how many years it would take until the end of the series, so I decided to make him appear.
His strength is limited in several aspects because if I made General Franky too strong, OP would not be a pirate manga anymore. His existence itself is nearly a joke.
Question: Have you been planning to draw General Franky since the beginning of the series?
Oda: Not at all. I was wondering how Straw Hats should become stronger after time skip.
Now that Marines have Pacifistas, I thought I can go so far as to draw nearly a joke character like General Franky.
Question: Why does Soldier Dock System have a motorcycle and tank?
Oda: Considering they have already a ship and airplanes don’t exist in Great Pirate Era, I thought my shonen audience would get hooked on motorcycle and tank.
Question: How did you come up with the gimmicks of General Franky?
Oda: I had a toy, the facial expression of which changed when rotating its neck. Other than that, I put everything I have seen in my childhood into General Franky.
Question: What kind of robot figures have you been inspired from?
Oda: I bought many robot character figures before drawing General Franky such as God Mars, Raideen, Gundam and Daimajin.
Although I wasn’t inspired from those figures after all, I still enjoyed collecting them since it made me feel nostalgic.
Question: Super alloy character figures of Merry, Franky and General Franky have been released. What else would you expect us to release?
Oda: I would ask for Luffy robot that appeared in spin-off manga “Chopperman”.
Toy Soldier in the current arc (Dressrosa ) would also be appreciated .Sunny as well.
Question: What robot animes did you watch during your childhood?
Oda: I loved a robot called Daimajin in “Yattodetaman” aired long ago. Of course, Gundam was my favorite anime, too.
Back then, so many robot animes were out there. I’m wondering why we don’t have enough amounts of robot animes these days.
Question: What kinds of robot character figures did you have/want in your childhood?
Oda: My parents almost never bothered to buy robot figures for me. I really wanted a robot figure of Daimajin.
I didn’t imagine I would buy it after becoming an adult. Daimajin figure is displayed in my studio now.
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Here is my translation of Oda’s interview about General Franky. The interview was included as a set of General Franky character figure released in 2013.
Thanks so much redon for kindly sharing amazing pics with us via Twitter!https://twitter.com/Mugiwara_23/status/1222198468346810368
Question: You told us many detailed gimmicks of General Franky before we started creating this figure. What do you think about this finished product?
Oda: When I created General Franky, I kept in mind that I should make his transformation look as physically plausible as possible,
but I wasn’t sure if it really would work well. In this regard, the staffs did a decent job as a professional. Thank you so much!Question: Why did you decide to make General Franky appear in manga?
Oda: Actually I wanted to draw Robot manga after finishing OP, but I was not sure how many years it would take until the end of the series, so I decided to make him appear.
His strength is limited in several aspects because if I made General Franky too strong, OP would not be a pirate manga anymore. His existence itself is nearly a joke.Question: Have you been planning to draw General Franky since the beginning of the series?
Oda: Not at all. I was wondering how Straw Hats should become stronger after time skip.
Now that Marines have Pacifistas, I thought I can go so far as to draw nearly a joke character like General Franky.Question: Why does Soldier Dock System have a motorcycle and tank?
Oda: Considering they have already a ship and airplanes don’t exist in Great Pirate Era, I thought my shonen audience would get hooked on motorcycle and tank.
Question: How did you come up with the gimmicks of General Franky?
Oda: I had a toy, the facial expression of which changed when rotating its neck. Other than that, I put everything I have seen in my childhood into General Franky.
Question: What kind of robot figures have you been inspired from?
Oda: I bought many robot character figures before drawing General Franky such as God Mars, Raideen, Gundam and Daimajin.
Although I wasn’t inspired from those figures after all, I still enjoyed collecting them since it made me feel nostalgic.Question: Super alloy character figures of Merry, Franky and General Franky have been released. What else would you expect us to release?
Oda: I would ask for Luffy robot that appeared in spin-off manga “Chopperman”.
Toy Soldier in the current arc (Dressrosa ) would also be appreciated .Sunny as well.Question: What robot animes did you watch during your childhood?
Oda: I loved a robot called Daimajin in “Yattodetaman” aired long ago. Of course, Gundam was my favorite anime, too.
Back then, so many robot animes were out there. I’m wondering why we don’t have enough amounts of robot animes these days.Question: What kinds of robot character figures did you have/want in your childhood?
Oda: My parents almost never bothered to buy robot figures for me. I really wanted a robot figure of Daimajin.
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Interesting, thanks a lot! Will check out this yattodetaman and daimajin
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPc6-tJXUAEh6HD?format=jpg&name=900x900
Don´t tell me we´re getting closer
I knew it would be between 10-12
So after the next chapter, he's going on hiatus due to reorganize his work? Or he's talking about future multiple breaks in the magazine?
It says right there he's not going to stop working. Everything is just gonna slow down to avoid gatherings of too many people and just be more careful in general because of coronavirus.
So after the next chapter, he's going on hiatus due to reorganize his work? Or he's talking about future multiple breaks in the magazine?
The latter. There is a mistake in the translation that they already corrected.
"That is why, although I think the interruption period will be shorter" changed to "That is why I think there will be more interruptions from now on".
Message by Eiichiro Oda to All fans, ENG Ver.
SO that's what the D. means. Okay, no problem with getting more breaks, mystery solved, Oda can end the series in a year now.
So 20 years to go
Protect Oda-san at all costs. I don't doubt that this will lead to more off-paneling things, but it's a small price to pay. Some OP is better than no OP. HxH prepared me for this.
Oda would be happy to hear his story's foolish moments have always helped me out in the hard times. Unfortunately, that also makes "more breaks" a little hard to hear.
But I'll endure. I'm glad Oda's taking such great pains to keep himself and the people around him safe. It's absolutely the right thing to do, and the hard times won't last forever.
Apparently this is a new interview of Oda (but the picture remember be a thing) :
@Raydjahs:
Apparently this is a new interview of Oda (but the picture remember be a thing) :
This is old one, it was on Jan 2019, between Eiichiro Oda and Sanma. We already covered that.
Okay, I'm so sorry.
What about the interview he had to do with Nobuhiro Watsuki at the end of April?
it is out there somewhere, this forum was down at the time so it probably never got posted here.
What about the interview he had to do with Nobuhiro Watsuki at the end of April?
Rurouni Kenshin Exhibition was postponed to 2021 due Covid-19, so the book with the interview between Watsuki and Oda was postponed too.
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Did people assume that was going to be some sort of live interview and not something that was already done and over with well before it was made public?
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Did people assume that was going to be some sort of live interview and not something that was already done and over with well before it was made public?
If it isn't a cozy fire side chat i don't want it
I hope the new editor can be a bit more demanding. I honestly believe it should be tough as hell to speak up to one of the most successful mangaka of all times and tell him when he's not doing something right. But I think One Piece is in need of someone who can tell Oda when he is going too far with the number of characters and the dispersion of the plot.
Maybe he backtalked him one time too many about the glorious five year plan. Commissar Oda rounding up anyone who suggest that quotas will not be met, to the anime gulag with you!
Editors should at the very least be able to prevent any continuity issues and plotholes, no matter how minor. One piece in general doesnt have irreversable plot holes but there are some iffy things every few chapters which make me scratch my head and to me thats all the editor's fault. There's no way i would ever expect Oda to notice every minor misstep that could alter the way we perceive events, especially considering a)his schedule and b)the density of the story. Maybe i am a bit too demanding idk, what do you think?
I think there's a near 0 percent chance the manga wraps in 5 years… or even close to 5 years. To the anime gulag with me then. I'll give myself a 15 year sentence so that when I emerge, One Piece will be just about ready to end :ninja:
Definitely not making it 5 years if COVID keeps sticking around.
Also 4 editors in total (including Media Editors).
wait, Scotch. why 4?
before changed: Naito (media editor) & Takano (manga editor).
after changed: Iwasaki (new manga editor), Naito (possibly still media editor), & Takano (probably become media editor).
Has anyone ever make note of editorial changes and tracked if there was any marked difference in the storytelling under each one? Even just a feeling of increasing or decreasing pace, more or less characters, and so on. We've been through a few of these changes but I can't say I've ever seen an impact from any of them. Maybe people in Japan being exposed to different kinds of merch and marketing might get more of it through the media editor rotations.
Oda asked editor Naito yesterday, “Have you noticed that hashtag about OP is trending on Twitter now?”
“Stampede” was aired on Japanese satellite TV channel yesterday. At the same time, YouTube live-streaming with anime staffs and
editors commenting about each scene of Stampede was also aired for 2.5 hours.
Thus, so many fans tweeted about it. I’m wondering how often Oda checks Twitter…:ninja:
In the live-streaming, Zoro’s VA made a funny joke. Until recently, he spent much time watching dubbed films at home with COVID-19 going around.
He got mad every time he heard Sanji’s voice in those films. (Sanji’s VA appears in many dubbed films in Japan.)
2 years ago, Sanji’s VA proudly asked him, “How much is your bounty, Zoro?”
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Maybe he backtalked him one time too many about the glorious five year plan. Commissar Oda rounding up anyone who suggest that quotas will not be met, to the anime gulag with you!
What would that look like, I wonder.
What would that look like, I wonder.
Well its kind of the opposite of what he used to be doing. At the manga politburo he'd be in charge of whipping the artist proletariat into speeding up the process at the peoples glorious manga chapter heavy industries. Where as at the anime gulag you break your back with a pick axe trying to salvage bits of filler and time wasting from the harsh hard rock of actual content. Hopefully he'll see the light after some re-education in marxist theory and can be trusted to stand behind the great leap to the end OP
Naito was actually the one who told Sommobuta (the italian youtuber that interwieved him in December) "5 years? Even less!"
Naito was actually the one who told Sommobuta (the italian youtuber that interwieved him in December) "5 years? Even less!"
Which was a backtracking on what he said in september
Oda's comment at WSJ issue 29/2020 :
"My new manga editor is Iwasaki. Welcome! I have four editors total if you include the ones for other media. It’s a revolutionary era for how we work!"
https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/mangaka-musings-06-21-2020 Iwasaki, Takano, Naito. I wonder who's the fourth one :wassat: Sugita?