@sabinis:
Well I based that on your behaviour, no need to call impression you make a hobby of mine.
That's an impression you make on me, considering how often you focus on me, instead of what I say, in your posts.
@sabinis:
Seems like you live by arguments and complaining, as for One Piece manga people here want to open your eyes for other angles that you ignore.
A) I literaly live by arguments and complainig. Choosing an academic path of dialectic philosophy and ethics means exactly that.
B) People here are under the impression that just because I don't agree with them, I don't understand their arguments, yourself included. That assumption is also incorrect.
@sabinis:
You should appreciate replies you get as things that could serve a role of widening your views on manga and works of fiction in general, not get passive agressive and throw left and right not well thought through complaints and arguments backed by "I studied stuff". In life studies are just source of informations on some subject, its up to person what use is made of those studies.
True. My studies were tailored towards discussing the various values that we hold and problems related to human nature, as well as good and evil.
I appreciate all responses that provide a unique point of view, or are just well argued.
"You are wrong"
"You just complain"
"You haven't read One Piece long enough"
"You don't understand the Shonen genre"
"That's the authors vision"
Are those valueable answers, that give me anything? How are they? What do they give me, other than the impression people don't have real arguments, and they want me to be wrong, but they don't exactly know how to say it?
You know why I consider people like Daz and Robzilla to great discussion opponents? No Ad hominem. They resort to creating arguments that have value. And I will always respect them for that, even if I don't agree with everything they say.
But don't tell that every comment aimed at me holds value. That is, frankly, untrue.
@sabinis:
Why you didnt created your own "complain on chapter/developments thread" yet?
I think it would take away some of negative energy that your criticizing chapters and One Piece in general creates in chapters threads.
Then after some discussion you would be able to post here more thought through and better formulated critic approach.
Because creating a topic just to went seemed arrogant.
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@andy:
What ??
The only reason they helping civilians is because of Fujitora.
Hell Fujitoran is the one who just save them .
EDIT if Fujitora did not care about civilians he could have all the marines attack the pirates of course they would have been wipe out and then be useless .
I didn't say Fujitora doesn't care about civilians. I've said that from the ethical stand-point his conduct is questionable. Which is not the same thing.
For example: "They don't want my help" is not ethicaly viable reason for not arresting known mass murderer.
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@incinerator:
You studied logic, huh? And solely based on that authority, you assert that you know exactly when you're wrong, so those who disagree with you must be wrong?
That is a classic appeal to authority fallacy. Ironic that your "I've studied logic" argument is itself illogical. Now, I couldn't care less about arguing with you about One Piece, as it is a work of art and logic has little to do with it. But if you're going to bring logic into this in such a heavy-handed fashion, don't shoot yourself in the foot.
No, I assert when I'm wrong because it has been my job do so. I would no survive without it.
And appeal to authority assumes that one uses authority of person instead of arguments to assert their own point, true. However, that is not what we see here. I have used other arguments in the discussion proper, and my dismissal of some counter-arguments (not all, which would be required for appeal to authority to become fallacious in this example) is firmly rooted in my knowledge, not some imagined authority.
Or do you need me to make you a graph explaining why "You are complaining" is not a logical counter-argument to "Authors unwillingness to kill his own characters robs the cliff-hanger and confrontation of tension, and make it seem as cheap device to excite the reader, instead of actually having a role in the story"?
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@sabinis:
Some of things you point out as big faults are build up of what is yet to come. Thats why I said earlier you probably lack experience of being long time reader as you post like you dont acknowledge that things always been pretty much like this and for good reasons. Really it looks like Odas work is bad to you so as criticizing is of course your right, I hope its not only reason why you are posting here.
I have read One Piece weekly since… 2009, I believe. I remember that the first chapter I've read weekly was 554. I really think that is enough of experience to make a bloody opinion.