So… controlled beaten up without hand barely alive Law vs Luffy?
Chapter 779: "Final Fight"
-
-
This chapter was good, we had progression. Factory is destroyed, updates on everyone, Koala/Sabo thing is very interesting. The only negative was the 'cliffhanger' as we know Law is not dead. WHAT'S WITH THE COMPLAINING?
-
Hopefully Trebol gets one-shotted next chapter, just for the sake of getting this arc over with at the soonest possible time. Maybe doffy too, but that's probably troll-level to one-shot an arc villain and not oda-like (despite the recent one-shot doffy crew members).
-
I don't mind people liking things. All and all, in the end, art is subjective, and it's quality even more so.
Now, people that tell I'm immature, I don't understand, that I'm evidently to stupid to comprehend the glory of something they enjoy… now, there we begin to have a problem.
Call me bitter. I don't care at this point. The fact that the manga that has been deeply enjoyable to me in the past years stopped being so is by far more frustrating.
You've been seriously called too stupid to enjoy the glory of current One Piece? If anything, guys that don't like what's going on are on the winning side lately, or that's the feeling I get from coming here.
Even last week's chapter that should've by all means received a break from the critiques and just received a standing ovation for its art and double spreads got halfway lost in the myriad of "lolz Pica sucks" and "Zoro didn't struggle so it sucked" and "Dofla's family sucks" and. . .you know. That. Not even giving it a break week after week gets tiresome for some people, it's just understanding that, I'm not even saying to tone it down, it's how you guys feel, that's how you feel and there's no changing it, but at least understand people being annoyed by it.
-
But if Law is dead, what will happen to the Heart Pirates?
-
This could be the first chapter I like Bellamy. Even if just a little.
And those waiting for Robin x Trébol, watch Trebol get OHKO by Luffy in the next of next-to-next chapter.
-
For me.
Forgot that part.
See, the difference between you and me is that my standarts are a lot higher, evidently.
No, I think the difference is that if I see something with 50 good points and 1 bad point, I disregard the bad point to a large extent.
You, on the other hand, are much happier focusing on that one bad point.
Where you see a pretty good chapter, I see a pretty horrid one. Might be because I don't care for Bellamy, or because I find the sudden friendship between him and Luffy to be forced. Or it might be multiple other reasons.
So it's down to personal tastes, rather than actually criticizing the chapter itself.
No, incredibly stupid cliffhanger is not what ruined this chapter for me.
I really don't get why you've reacted so strongly to this cliffhanger.
Hell, for all we know Law might actually be dead, only for Mansherry to revive him later on.
At the same time, "The rest was good" it's an excuse, not proper counter-argument.
That wasn't my counter argument.
It was a statement about how an apparently less than gutwrenching cliffhanger does not "ruin" a chapter on it's own.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
-
So Luffy has taken another heavy beating, yet he is still going to fight Doflamingo all by himself..? I would prefer if Mansherry's powers weren't going to be used until after Doflamingo has been defeated, but right now it seems a bit weird if Luffy had to fight a somewhat fit Doflamingo while being out of breath and severely injured..
-
When law was shot 3 times it left a cliffhanger of "Is Law Dead"? And now another cliffhanger of "Is Law Dead"? Seriously?
And please no! No mansherry Lazarus effect, reviving the dead.
-
Did anyone else think the art in this chapter was really good?
-
Hell, for all we know Law might actually be dead, only for Mansherry to revive him later on.
Ah, that would be the final nail on the coffin of One Piece going downhill. Especially when Oda stated that dead people should not be resurrected.
-
That Oda still keeps the art at such a high level after so many years is astounding.
That was a great chapter. Wish Bellamy wasn't crying as much, though.
-
-
I am so unreasonably disappointing that Franky didn't blow up the factory with his laser it's incredible. It makes a lot of sense that the Tontattas would destroy the factory that has enslaved them for years, but still…Franky wanted to do it!
Nice chapter though. Bellamy was an idiot through and through I'm glad he's finally been knocked out. I hope next chapter we see Doflamingo playing with Law like a marionette.
-
Meh, fuck the chapter threads from now on. Complaints are getting sillier, way too much nitpicking and the atmosphere in this part of the forum has gone from bad to worse (also noticed that some not-so-good Narutofan members have found their way into this forum). Don't need more stress, I get enough of that from work already.
In chapter threads, after page 5 you will only find:
- People complaining about the chapter and/or Oda
- People telling those who complain about chapter/Oda they are wrong
- People complaining about complains
- People telling people what's going on and why people is complaining about people complaining (yes, that's me, now)
- People explaining random theories
- People telling those random theories are wrong
- People complaining about people telling other people they are wrong
- People insults for no reason
- People nitpicking for no reason
- People having the same discussions of the 20 past chapter threads
- People telling other people to not speak for all the people because they are not "just people"
In one word:
HATRED -
I wonder which one is going to be worse: Finding out that psychopathic killer Doflamingo is incapable of killing half dead Law, or if Law actually been killed and Oda is going to break his long policy and revive him with the dwarf princess.
Place your bets now!
somehow your sarcasm is starting to rub me in the wrong way . Please, if you are going to bash a chapter do it under facts not assumptions. Your attacking skills are not helping either.
-
I'm sure Law's injection shot that he did on Doflamigo will have its effect later in Luffy vs Doflamingo fight … I mean there should have been a purpose for him to use that move on him
-
Ok
NOW we are getting some where. Finally some sparks in the one piece fire!
Solid chapter, great even. I feel for Bellamy, and Luffy looks real pissed, that's rare. Bring on the next chap.
-
And who or what is it Koala talking about ? He must be really strong otherwise he wouldn't be a threat to Luffy and Sabo wouldn't be needed there as well. Kaido or CP0 is the only ones who have motive to be there and they are the only ones who can be a threat to such strong people as Luffy or Sabo.
-
Please stop speaking for everyone. Thank you.
-
Did anyone else think the art in this chapter was really good?
I think that the chapter was very good regardless if it might just feel to be way better in comparison it with recent ones.
Anyway seeing Zoro smiling by remembering some memories felt kinda awkward to me, but in a good way. Seeing Bellamy defeated in same way as before… Well it kinda makes sense I guess and I think it was a good way to borrow a bit of impression from the last fight as we remember it.
However what was best in chapter for me was Luffy's last conversation with Bellamy which led him to make that decision to comply with his last wish to be killed by him. It's just a nice contrast compared with Luffy's usual mentality when it comes to friends and awesome way to start a final fight now when he's all angry and ready to go.Is Law dead? Oh, just staph,, I already was hyped enough at that point. An awesome piece of accent to this chapter.
-
Decent colorspread but not a fan.
So Zoro is put out of commision by being to far away. I guess he just found a great way for his legend to reach Wano. I would really like for someone to try cutting that birdcage.
Fuji continuing doing the bare minimum it seems. He is definitely doing that on purpose.
I found it funny how Oda imply Zoro and King puncher were about to kill innocent civilians.
So armament is so your sword won't get break? I prefer that use of it rather than increase cutting.
Trebol sure enjoy the role of the observer. He should go check on the princess since it is there trump card and Viola can inform the enemy.
Koala is a badass? How about showing rather than telling? Seems like Burguess is finally around and Sabo gets to do a little work out.
Sad that Bellamy gets taken down by a punch. Now the whole thing really looks like stalling.
Law's dead? Oooh Oda… You're such a prankster.
I wonder which one is going to be worse: Finding out that psychopathic killer Doflamingo is incapable of killing half dead Law, or if Law actually been killed and Oda is going to break his long policy and revive him with the dwarf princess.
I bet on 1. Or option 1.1 Dofla don't suck at telling when someone is dead.
-
The expression on Bellamy's face was great
-
Ah, that would be the final nail on the coffin of One Piece going downhill. Especially when Oda stated that dead people should not be resurrected.
It wouldn't be great, I'll admit, but I think we can rest assured that we'll see Mansherry using the more godlike extension of her ability at some point.
It's just a question of what she'll be using it on.
Also, I think there's a fair difference between bringing back someone like say Ace, who has been dead and buried categorically for some time, and reviving someone like Law, who would be dead for about 10 minutes if he died at all.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
-
Well, getting back here now that the mangastream version is out…
Overall I'm happy that the chapter tied together most loose threads in one fell swoop without feeling rushed. Now all that's left is the final fight. After the long drag that was the post-SOP battle, this was a breath of fresh air. And I believe Mihawk figured out Zoro's greatest weakness. Still don't like how Bellamy was handled and the throwback though, for reasons explained before. In regards to the marines, the one time Fujitora actually does something it's off screened?! Seriously, if they don't get any credit after this...
Also, "Lawland".
I'll refrain from commenting on the Mansherry-healing-Law thing for now, I want to see how this will be executed first.
Overall a pretty good chapter. Looking forward to the next one. -
If Oda just did a "they're not dead yet, but they can't be healed by normal means" thing with Mansherry's fruit he would avoid the whole can of worms. Death can be final and Mansherry's power can still save people from otherwise guaranteed death.
That Oda still keeps the art at such a high level after so many years is astounding.
That was a great chapter. Wish Bellamy wasn't crying as much, though.
I certainly agree there's been some fantastic art on Dress Rosa. The chapter with Kyros' fight, the Pica statue and much of the depiction of Doflamingo especially. But isn't it more the expectation than the exception that an author improves in art of drawing itself over the years? It's certainly the case in the manga I've read, especially Kingdom, but OP itself is a great example as well (in… most regards).
-
The expression on Bellamy's face was great
face of the night lol
-
Really enjoyed this chapter especially the Bellamy stuff but I don't understand why people are saying this is out of character for Luffy.
He has punched people who he's considered friends in the past but in his mind they weren't near death.
And a large part of the emotion he was feeling just now wasn't just wasn't at Bellamy but at Doflamingo's actions in relation to him if that makes Luffy's reaction more believable to you.
Either way can't wait to see more of where his character arc goes. -
The expression on Bellamy's face was great
I liked it also because it seems to aknowledge that he is indeed lying with the whole Doffy respect thing.
-
5/5 Awesome chapter for me. Zoro's memories, blown up factory, Trebol still thinking they have manshelly, Luffy beating Bellamy and shouting Doffy's name right before the final controntation.
What could you want more? except a chapter next week
-
It wouldn't be great, I'll admit, but I think we can rest assured that we'll see Mansherry using the more godlike extension of her ability at some point.
It's just a question of what she'll be using it on.
Also, I think there's a fair difference between bringing back someone like say Ace, who has been dead and buried categorically for some time, and reviving someone like Law, who would be dead for about 10 minutes if he died at all.
This Law is dead might have a link to what Luffy said in Colisseum when Dofla and Issho took Law away….
-
Me liking a chapter doesn't mean I find no faults in it. I'm usually late in reading chapters and their corresponding chapter threads so most of the time somebody/some people have already discussed what I feel about the chapter - good and bad. Just as you have the freedom to choose and dwell on the negatives, so do the people who find the chapters enjoyable because the pros outweigh the cons for them. If being negative is a growing trend in this part of the forum, then count me out.
-
Meh, fuck the chapter threads from now on. Complaints are getting sillier, way too much nitpicking and the atmosphere in this part of the forum has gone from bad to worse (also noticed that some not-so-good Narutofan members have found their way into this forum). Don't need more stress, I get enough of that from work already.
This is not a very fair post at all. The people who you say are complaining are just offering their opinion (doing it so wonderful too my I add) That what this forum all about different opinions.
I know more about One Piece than you FACT.
-
No, I think the difference is that if I see something with 50 good points and 1 bad point, I disregard the bad point to a large extent.
You, on the other hand, are much happier focusing on that one bad point.
Actually, that's because that one bad point is the easiest to explain, critic wise.
I think that the chapter as a whole was terrible. I will be posting full analisis soon.
So it's down to personal tastes, rather than actually criticizing the chapter itself.
True, but than again, in the end, everything is down to personal tastes. Even art is subjective in that regard.
I really don't get why you've reacted so strongly to this cliffhanger.
Hell, for all we know Law might actually be dead, only for Mansherry to revive him later on.
Because it is insulting my inteligence.
Unless Law is dead and will stay dead. Fat chance of that happening.
That wasn't my counter argument.
It was a statement about how an apparently less than gutwrenching cliffhanger does not "ruin" a chapter on it's own.
It's true, it does not. However, I never stated that it was the cliffhanger that "ruined" the chapter for me. I stated that I consider the chapter bad, and in somewhat unrelated way stated that I consider the cliffhanger terrible, while formulating my full thoughts.
That the latter was the cause of the former was purely speculation on your part.
-
This is not a very fair post at all. The people who you say are complaining are just offering their opinion (doing it so wonderful too my I add) That what this forum all about different opinions.
There are good negative opinions, but so far they are rare.
Especially the nitpicking ones with little elaboration.
-
Looking at the first posts, I'm glad I waited for Mangastream. I will keep doing that I think.
 -
i just dont understand why viola never sees law?
hmm maybe law is alive and mingo is just threating the viewers lols
-
Am I the alone one that noticed how Bellamy said the same thing before he got knocked out as he did in Jaya? "Farewell, Strawhat!", not only that, the same panel structure and framing as well… That's pretty cool.
Want to see the Colored Manga Chapters in English? Support Snir in his endeavor by DONATING: http://sniraharon.tumblr.com/
-
There are good negative opinions, but so far they are rare.
Especially the nitpicking ones with little elaboration.
That in and of itself is unfair.
Not like people liking the chapters are willing to actually justify it. The negative opinions are stripped down to their very bones, and examined carefuly, but if you have a positive opinion, that's all you need to do to get a free pass.
-
Because it is insulting my inteligence.
Jeeze dude.
It's almost as if the cliffhanger was written for Shonen aged children (it was).
–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Not like people liking the chapters are willing to actually justify it.
Time and time again, I see people saying why they like the chapter, and not just a simple "I like the chapter" (these exist too though).
You can't expect everybody to write essays about it.
-
Wow you guys got nothing to do but bicker like kids in the forum eh? you're all fans of the manga, and none of you are writing it. Live with it, if you don't like it, leave, stop reading .. All the time taken to write the pointless long arguments maybe can be used for something productive, other than entertainment .
-
Jeeze dude.
It's almost as if the cliffhanger was written for Shonen aged children (it was).
Just because something is written for children and teens, it doesn't mean it has to be stupid.
And you can't have gritty, dark cliffhanger if you are not willing to follow it up, which we know Oda isn't.
Time and time again, I see people saying why they like the chapter, and not just a simple "I like the chapter" (these exist too though).
You can't expect everybody to write essays about it.
And yet, people with negative opinions are expected to do just that.
-
So Doflamingo killed Law ? …. Again ?
-
-
Bellamy's principles are the best of the chapter, regular to be a transition chap.
-
As a One Piece fan, I'm 99% sure that Bellamy will survive this with or without Manshelly's help.
But I still want him to die here. I don't dislike him at all. But Oda kept telling us that one more attack would kill him and Luffy didn't go easy. -
If Law is actualy dead, (not that I belive so) and Manshery can revive him (not that I can belive she can, nor should), then he should be back without his devil fruit, as it's escence would have already moved on. If not, then Mansherry should be the main target of EVERYONE, as this exploits allows for unimited devil fruits.
Thinking about the OP fruit, it is weird that it's effects, while "curse like" in nature, as in alters things in a supernatural way, as the target fruit, the art fruit or the hobby fruit, it's effects seem more of the permanent kind, as something closer to the boom fruit, or the heal fruit. And it's proven twice in the manga, with the evidence of the eternal life operation, and the fact that the centaurs/monet/maybe kinemon didn't colapse into a bloody mess when he was unconcious. It's another "special case" to the devil fruit effects.
The past user of the revival fruit must also be dead for it to be a known fruit, or.. maybe the 5 elder stars have collected 5 different forms of inmortality, and Brook's fruit is already in circulation, and the past user is one of the elder stars.
3DS FC: 0516-7666-3837
SW-4128-8032-0729
-
The past user of the revival fruit must also be dead for it to be a known fruit, or.. maybe the 5 elder stars have collected 5 different forms of inmortality, and Brook's fruit is already in circulation, and the past user is one of the elder stars.
That wouldn't make too much sense. Brook's fruit allows him to project his soul into the world as well, so it's not like the fruit disappears after the user revives (plus… the devil fruit weakness to water is still present).
-
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
Nothing exists; even if something exists, nothing can be known about it. Even if something can be known about it,
