When was the first time we saw [something]?

DynamiteShikoku

Hi guys,

i suddenly have a question in my mind and it makes me want to make a thread about all the similar questions.

we know that zoro got lost all the time but when did we first see him got lost?

we know that luffy like meat but when did we first see him saying that he loves meat (not food in general)?

we know that there are a lot of devil fruits out there but when did the first time we see each of the types (paramecia, logia, zoan)? or even, when did the term paramecia logia zoan first mentioned?

we know about sea stone / kairoseki but when did we first see it or it being mentioned?

im sure you guys have similar questions like this and i thought maybe i should make a thread about it so that you guys can ask or answer the questions. it kinda like a treasure hunt because some of the answers can be pretty hard to find since we already got 750+ of chapters. so you can kinda treat this thread like some sort of a game.

The Franky Tank

Sea Stone was first mentioned in Alabasta with the crew being locked up in the cage.

Zoro getting lost I believe happened first in Drum Island?

I think we learned about Paramecia and Logia in Logue Town, and Zoan in Drum Island.

As far as questions are concerned, I got nothing at the moment.

Torao

hm i thought the first to mention paramecia and logia was enel. although the first we saw was of course smoker

edit: i found this: about paramecia

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and it seems laki was the first to call enels fruit a logia

poque

First time seastone was this I think: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/168351/one-piece_v19_ch169_by_nitoryu/10

kcity

Things like seastone and paramecia/logia you can just look that up in the wiki specific topic and check the references.

I wonder when the first time was when Oda's scaling was completely off for the first time. Also when was the first time the crew changed outfits? Alabasta?

FrankyFan

Zoro first mentions getting lost right after they leave Morgan's base. I believe it comes back in Little Garden when he's trying to find the ship. By Alabasta, it's a regular gag.

RobZilla

One of my personal favourites is the first time we hear about that ultimate ocean…

MasterKingJC

@FrankyFan:

Zoro first mentions getting lost right after they leave Morgan's base. I believe it comes back in Little Garden when he's trying to find the ship. By Alabasta, it's a regular gag.

Didn't he also get lost in the Kuro arc?

LUFFYSMC GEAR 2ZND

@DynamiteShikoku:

we know about sea stone / kairoseki but when did we first see it or it being mentioned?

@The:

Sea Stone was first mentioned in Alabasta with the crew being locked up in the cage.

Pretty sure 1st time for seastone would be in LogueTown with Smoker bragging about his jute' effectiveness a bit. Unless It was anime filler, I think they or Buggy pirates also had seastone net that they tried to use right before or right after Luffy's supposed execution.

GiantGuy

I believe the first time Luffy mentions his love of meat is after they leave Gaimon's island, when he says something like: "That box guy gave us lots of veggies, but we're still missing out on meat". Which is why he wants to go ashore at Syrup - to stock up on meat.

FrankyFan

@MasterKingJC:

Didn't he also get lost in the Kuro arc?

That was actually Luffy. Zoro couldn't climb up the cliff.

King Cannon

@LUFFYSMC:

Pretty sure 1st time for seastone would be in LogueTown with Smoker bragging about his jute' effectiveness a bit. Unless It was anime filler, I think they or Buggy pirates also had seastone net that they tried to use right before or right after Luffy's supposed execution.

The term "Seastone" first came up at Alabasta, but the substance itself was first used and talked about at Loguetown.

LUFFYSMC GEAR 2ZND

@King:

The term "Seastone" first came up at Alabasta, but the substance itself was first used and talked about at Loguetown.

Was the net anime or canon?
If canon, they just said this net/ jutte weakens you so we can capture you, and nothing else?

DynamiteShikoku

keep going guys

try to find something that we see regularly and find out when the first time it actually started.

when did the first time we see a combine/team attack? (like frapper gong or robicho suplex)

when did the first time we see a proper bounty picture? (with the same format that we know now)

when did the first time we see luffy crying? (like really crying, not some tears because of nami hitting him or some crying jokes, not including the first chapter with shanks of course)

when did the first time we see luffy's impersonation?

when did the first time sanji call zoro marimo?

when did the first time we see luffy's drawing?

when did the first time we see at least 3 strawhats fightning a single enemy at the same time?

when did the first time we see ALL the strawhats fighting a single enemy at the same time?

_Hayato

I'll try. Seems fun. Using my memory…

@DynamiteShikoku:

keep going guys

try to find something that we see regularly and find out when the first time it actually started.

when did the first time we see a combine/team attack? (like frapper gong or robicho suplex) Against that Lizard in Alabasta Desert. One of the biggest hint of the "Monster Trio", if I may say so.

when did the first time we see a proper bounty picture? (with the same format that we know now) Gotta be Buggy, Krieg and Arlong before Luffy's.

when did the first time we see luffy crying? (like really crying, not some tears because of nami hitting him or some crying jokes, not including the first chapter with shanks of course) This one should be easy. Luffy vs Usopp

when did the first time we see luffy's impersonation? "Sanji no mane~" in Alabasta

when did the first time sanji call zoro marimo? Pretty sure it's in Alabasta as well, on the huge crab

when did the first time we see luffy's drawing? Easy, Fishman drawing

when did the first time we see at least 3 strawhats fightning a single enemy at the same time? Same Lizard

when did the first time we see ALL the strawhats fighting a single enemy at the same time? It would have to be.. TV Special 2 right? if it counts.. if not then I think Oz but probably doesn't count so.. PX-4?

poque

@DynamiteShikoku:

when did the first time we see luffy's drawing?

Luffy drawing the first flag I think http://www.batoto.net/read/_/47367/one-piece_ch42_by_onepiecefag-nep-ece/4
(the one on the left)

GiantGuy

@DynamiteShikoku:

when did the first time we see a proper bounty picture? (with the same format that we know now)

That must have been Higuma's bounty poster in chapter 1.

Clessenur

@DynamiteShikoku:

when did the first time we see a combine/team attack? (like frapper gong or robicho suplex)

In Drum, Sanji gives Luffy's Rocket a boost. It's a named attack, but I don't remember what it was called.

Ktost

When did we see Chopper and Usopp doing this kind of expression and why?

MetaMario

@Clessenur:

In Drum, Sanji gives Luffy's Rocket a boost. It's a named attack, but I don't remember what it was called.

I believe it's Armée de l'air Gomu (Gum)* Shoot.

Riquelme

@RobZilla:

One of my personal favourites is the first time we hear about that ultimate ocean…

http://s21.postimg.org/4juy76jhj/new_World.png

Love this pic feel like i am there.
My question when was the first time Haki mention or hint at (no shanks reference)

Admiral Issho

@Riquelme:

Love this pic feel like i am there.
My question when was the first time Haki mention or hint at (no shanks reference)

probably blackbeard in mocktown

edit: found it http://www.batoto.net/read/_/4829/one-piece_ch234_by_null/16

Riquelme

@Admiral:

probably blackbeard in mocktown

edit: found it http://www.batoto.net/read/_/4829/one-piece_ch234_by_null/16

When i click the link i saw Black Beard laugh as "yahh ha ha ha" is it the translation or did his laugh change to "Zehh ah ah ah". Also i remember seeing this discussion before about the trans as it relates to thhe "chi", some say it was an error in the trans

Admiral Issho

@Riquelme:

When i click the link i saw Black Beard laugh as "yahh ha ha ha" is it the translation or did his laugh change to "Zehh ah ah ah"

well this is the chapter with bisoromi bear and tanjiahdo lofulamingo so i can't guarantee the credibility of the translation

Supernova122

@LUFFYSMC:

Was the net anime or canon?
If canon, they just said this net/ jutte weakens you so we can capture you, and nothing else?

It's shown that the nullify abilities from Smoker's jutte's effect on Luffy. They explicitly call the net rounds "Jail Bullets" which comes up again later, and the same there for weakening and nullifying abilities with Buggy and Alvida. It's not said that it's seastone though.

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@Riquelme:

Love this pic feel like i am there.
My question when was the first time Haki mention or hint at (no shanks reference)

Shanks and Whitebeard's meeting is certainly the first time "Haki" is used to refer to something like that.

Concerning the line from Blackbeard referenced above, in the Viz translation at least, it's just "He didn't look like he was worth 30 million" or something like that. No reference to spirit or haki or will or ambition or chi or anything like that.

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@DynamiteShikoku:

we know that there are a lot of devil fruits out there but when did the first time we see each of the types (paramecia, logia, zoan)?

Well when we first see each of the types is easy.

Paramecia – right at the start, Luffy's Gum Gum Fruit.
Logia -- at Loguetown, Smoker's Moku Moku Fruit.
Zoan -- at Drum, Chopper's Human Human Fruit or Dalton's Cow Cow Fruit, Bison Model ... I think Chopper's is the first we get to see, probably, but Dalton's might be named first.

Admiral Issho

@Supernova122:

Shanks and Whitebeard's meeting is certainly the first time "Haki" is used to refer to something like that.

Concerning the line from Blackbeard referenced above, in the Viz translation at least, it's just "He didn't look like he was worth 30 million" or something like that. No reference to spirit or haki or will or ambition or chi or anything like that.

hmm how did the translators then get the idea that the word was there very strange

akagami7

@Admiral:

hmm how did the translators then get the idea that the word was there very strange

the word is there, you can be sure of that
haki 覇気

Admiral Issho

@akagami7:

the word is there, you can be sure of that
haki 覇気
http://i.imgur.com/2fBsCV8.png

ah ok then the translators are at least a bit reliable:ninja:

Riquelme

I don't know if this count but from i saw the convo between the three Admirals in the bottom panel i realise all was'nt peachy and that Akaino and Kuzan did'nt get along http://www.mangareader.net/103-40169-10/one-piece/chapter-564.html

CCC

@akagami7:

the word is there, you can be sure of that
haki 覇気
http://i.imgur.com/2fBsCV8.png

There was no way to know it'd be such an important concept at the time though, so most just passed it off as "ambition" or "will" or whatever. The decision to leave it as "haki" (and not even all did) didn't come until much later.