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    • Darth
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      Inspired by the words of Vagabond, I have decided to create this topic.

      What is it about? Well, manga has been ongoing for almost 18 years. While it is good (quite possibly the best Shonen out there), there are certainly things that disappointed you along the way, that made you scream in anger, or just those that you would do differently.

      And so I ask you: What do you think are the wasted opportunities of One Piece manga? What would you change, if given creative control? Would it be something small, something large? Would you conjure up a completly different story altogether?

      I'm also honestly curious if there are people that would change nothing at all.

      So yeah. Topic is here. Discuss!

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        A low-level grunt Marine would be able to destroy an entire solar system with just a blink of his eyes. I think each and every Marine not being this strong is a wasted opportunity.

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          1. Characters dying. Pell, Pagaya, Monet (nope, don't think she's dead)
          It's just annoying when Oda shows a scene that screams "THIS CHARACTER IS DYING", and then it doesn't happen. I would love to see King Riku dead in current arc. It just fits on so many levels.

          2. More character development for SH. Especially post-skip. I imagine Oda has a few cool ideas for that, but not enough to fill 25+ years of manga, so most of the time, they don't develop at all, just run around doing their stuff. And, as I mentioned, this is basically a post skip complaint. Pre skip was keeping things fresh and now strawhats became really stale. And I say stale only because I don't want to use the world "boring"

          That is all. I realize there are more things to nitpick, like certain patters Oda uses, but those patterns are probably what helps him being in control, so who know what would happen if he decided to not follow them. Almost every downside this series has I consider a necessery evil that Oda needs to make the rest awesome. We can speculate that if tried to fix this and that, the manga would get better, but we don't know that. It could easily backfire on Oda, so I just learned to accept all what's wrong. Becasue all that is wrong might be what makes the rest so good.

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            Something small- I'd love to see a joke concerning Usopp from the Arlong Park arc continued on in the FI arc.
            What Joke? People mistaking Usopp as a fishman, someone says he's human…although he resembles a fishman more XD

            This happened in ch 70 when the kid Chobo and Nojiko.
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            I thought that FI would have been a great chance to continue this silly gag. The fishmen and mermaids wouldn't be the ones making the mistake but other humans. I would have loved to see a fishwoman (or even mermaid) flirt with Usopp saying he looks enough like a fishman for flirting to be okay
            Or someone ask if one of his parents was a fishman/woman

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              Fishman Island in general really

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                mmmh I think Oda wasted his opportunity to make the New World something huge and entertaining. So far it has been a disappointment and hasn't lived up to the hype. It may come soon but 200 chapters is way too much for things to get "real".

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                  mmmh I think Oda wasted his opportunity to make the New World something huge and entertaining. So far it has been a disappointment and hasn't lived up to the hype. It may come soon but 200 chapters is way too much for things to get "real".

                  This man speaks the truth. Scary strong world which was hyped to be 100 times more dangerous than first half, so far is just as weak and inhabited by villagers, fodder and Rebecca.

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                    Glorious Admiral Akainu not going on a grand crusade to kill each and every one of those filthy pirates and revolutionaries because THAT IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD >:(

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                    Everyone who posts in this thread must realize that Darth's using this as a podium to complain again about how the marines aren't portrayed as the bestest thing ever and how the world would be a much better place if Akainu ruled it.

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                      Not even a hint at the power of the gorosei. I don't count being scarred and wielding a weapon as attributes of immense strength.

                      We all float down here!

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                        @Cyan:

                        Everyone who posts in this thread must realize that Darth's using this as a podium to complain again about how the marines aren't portrayed as the bestest thing ever and how the world would be a much better place if Akainu ruled it.

                        Your comments are hillarious as always.

                        Especially considering I didn't even post anything of my own here yet. But hey, don't let such silly things stop you.

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                        Altough I gotta say, mister Funk, at this point your obsession with me, and your delusions regarding me are starting to get worrying. I dunno from which it stems, but it can't be healthy...

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                          Could be an interesting thread if people explain when and where Oda wasted an opportunity to do X. Otherwise this is pretty much a copy of this.

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                            @Jabra:

                            Could be an interesting thread if people explain when and where Oda wasted an opportunity to do X. Otherwise this is pretty much a copy of this.

                            That was pretty much my intention when I started this thread. Perhaps I did not convey it well enough…

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                              When Luffy finally joined the rest of the crew after the 2 years TS; to me, that was just a wasted opportunity to have an emotional reunion; I mean, Nami went "cuckoo bananas" (is this the correct expression?) when she met Usopp or Chopper, yet, she just waved when Luffy appeared?

                              It happened pretty much to everyone, Zoro and Sanji, etc. The reason I'm focusing on Luffy is because he was the reason they all spent 2 years training and then travelling to the reunion place, I was expecting them to be a lot more excited to see Luffy again.

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                                Choppers sidelining during Punk Hazards wrap-up is something the whole forum will agree was a wasted opportunity.

                                Personally, I feel that Kinemon as a whole is a somewhat missed opportunity. I love the guy, and Oda has pulled some good gags with him…but man, poor guy has not been allowed much paneltime. Most of his scenes are incredibly small.

                                Also coming to mind is Usopp vs Sugar.

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                                  Wiper not joining. I appreciate skypiea but it should have had a crew member join to make it feel a little more complete. FI is my only other gripe. It was too short for its own good and not enough of the area was explored. A little too overhyped.

                                  @Daz. Kinemon will have panel opportunity soon. He will still be around for Zou and will probably be the center of attention in Wano.

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                                  Actually one more issue with me is how easily some Doflamingo members have been taken out. Vergo and Monet easily had much more material/fighting potential. Jora's power is actually a lot cooler than people think. Sugar also has an interesting power and Im kind of sad Buffalo got tossed consistently. Ik however they all have the potential to come back and fight and Im pretty sure the rest of the family cant be taken out this easily.

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                                    @Kirk:

                                    mmmh I think Oda wasted his opportunity to make the New World something huge and entertaining. So far it has been a disappointment and hasn't lived up to the hype. It may come soon but 200 chapters is way too much for things to get "real".

                                    The hell? I don't know what you've been reading but Dressrosa has been an entertaining joyride for the past year and a half.
                                    And granted, we've barely seen much of the New World anyway. Remember they've only been on two islands. (Dressrosa is the first legit island they've been on in the New World.

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                                      Smoker not killing Crocodile, Tashigi not killing Zoro, the Admirals not destroying everything and anything, there are so many thing to pick on that it seems absurd to do so

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                                        Whitebeard never having the chance to use his mustache as a boomerang is one of the biggest wasted opportunities in the manga.

                                        One Piece can never be been truly great without it.

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                                          @Demonicpoodle:

                                          A low-level grunt Marine would be able to destroy an entire solar system with just a blink of his eyes. I think each and every Marine not being this strong is a wasted opportunity.

                                          @Shadowgreed:

                                          Smoker not killing Crocodile, Tashigi not killing Zoro, the Admirals not destroying everything and anything, there are so many thing to pick on that it seems absurd to do so

                                          That seems incredibly dull to me, but I guess there is no accounting for tastes…

                                          Would you like to elaborate on those? Because frankly, they sound like an absolutly dreadful ideas.

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                                            Robin just feels like a waste these days. Past few arcs her chance for fights have been pushed aside, usually for some ridiculous reason. Can we not have Zoro get knocked out and give Robin two fights next arc instead? Chopper's character development in Punk Hazard was a waste. Actually just put Law fixing just about every plot thread in Punk Hazard as a waste.

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                                              I feel like he wasted the opportunity to make Kyros a more important character when it concerns the world.

                                              When you create a world known colliseum and a world known swordsman who was never wounded in 2999 fights, you might as well show some bigger names fighting him. This way it seemed a little unconvincing, and Kyros remained confined to Dressrosa island.

                                              And while I'm at Kyros, the situation in which he lost his leg was retarded. Still don't understand the point of him losing his leg.

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                                              It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                In Enies Lobby, the Sanji vs. Kalifa fight could've given Sanji some really great character development. If he started kicking women only when it was absolutely necessary, i would have loved it

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                                                  When Luffy was poisoned by Magellan at Impel Down, he endured hours of sufferings and survived only thanks to his will. From a storytelling standpoint, I think it was the best moment to give us Luffy's flashback (the one with Ace and Sabo).

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                                                    Quite agree with the following ones:

                                                    @FLCL:

                                                    When Luffy finally joined the rest of the crew after the 2 years TS; to me, that was just a wasted opportunity to have an emotional reunion; I mean, Nami went "cuckoo bananas" (is this the correct expression?) when she met Usopp or Chopper, yet, she just waved when Luffy appeared?

                                                    Yeah, after such an awesome moment as this, after the crew became the reason Luffy sucked up his sadness and went back to being Luffy again, they way they reunited was too fucking casual. "Oh hi, Luffy". "Oh hi, guys. Off to the New World?" "Oh yes, why not?". I was expecting a fucking Niagara waterfall of tears in there and a massive group hug. They haven't even done a toast to celebrate their reunion. . .

                                                    @Daz:

                                                    Choppers sidelining during Punk Hazards wrap-up is something the whole forum will agree was a wasted opportunity.

                                                    That was one of the worst things post-time skip for me. After building all that drama and Chopper's investment with the kids, here comes Doctor Law and his ability to cure absolutely everything that can be cured. End of drama, cue in a facefault.

                                                    Personally, I feel that Kinemon as a whole is a somewhat missed opportunity. I love the guy, and Oda has pulled some good gags with him…but man, poor guy has not been allowed much paneltime. Most of his scenes are incredibly small.

                                                    Kin started really strong in Punk Hazard, but he's become far too irrelevant during Dressrosa. That being said, some of the best stuff, we owe it to him (the suits and facial hair, the Frog, Carp and Cat disguises, the Kinemingo moment. . .). I hope he and Momo will get their time in the sun during either Zou or Wano.

                                                    Also coming to mind is Usopp vs Sugar.

                                                    Not quite a wasted opportunity, the thing is. . . it should've never happened to begin with. Or at least, not that way.

                                                    @MasterKingJC:

                                                    The hell? I don't know what you've been reading but Dressrosa has been an entertaining joyride for the past year and a half.
                                                    And granted, we've barely seen much of the New World anyway. Remember they've only been on two islands. (Dressrosa is the first legit island they've been on in the New World.

                                                    He means that the New World is not that dangerous so far. Like HxH's DC has all those super deadly calamities going on, or Toriko's GW with a gazillion hazard and environmental madness that could kill you just by being there, but the NW. . .is the same as the rest of the Grand Line, but with stronger people.

                                                    (That's not true, cause we KNOW there's plenty of crazy shit in the NW: the black gravity ball that engulfs entire islands, Raijin island, an island were things start flying just because. . .but the SH's so far have been on a pretty tame route).

                                                    As for me, I have plenty of stuff to mention.

                                                    • Tied to this last item, Punk Hazard. I don't like the fact that, after that spectacular intro to the island, all the crazy weather going on, half an island of fire and the other half of ice, the sea on fire. . .that all that awesomeness was explained as "oh, that's because Akainu and Aokiji fought here. Otherwise we'd be on a bland, regular as fuck island". I would've liked that the island was just that fucking crazy because "New World, bitches!". That + the super pacific country of Dressrosa that hasn't seen a single incident in all of its history till Dofla came around, makes the NW the Strawhats are seeing look as tame as candy syrup.

                                                    • Dressrosa has seen Oda skip too many blasted chances to show us tons of awesomeness: a full fight of Jora vs. Strawhats, showing us tactics and different usages of Jora's fruit and stuff. Franky vs everyone and their mothers: at least, show us a bit more! The dwarves, specially the ones with Devil Fruits: I honestly thought Leo would have something to do, anything; instead? he became just one more. I was also hyped to see Oda create some creative uses for his DF. And of course, Usopp vs. Sugar and Trebol. We saw NOTHING of the fight. NOTHING. And it cheapened the aftermath to no end. I'm perfectly fine with Usopp losing! As long as we see the struggle so we can cheer him on, get involved in the fight, rage when he loses and then get relieved when he unconciously wins the fight. If the ENTIRETY of the conflict gets skipped and we only see the beginning and the end, we can't get into it no matter how hard we try.

                                                    • Still with Dressrosa, Robin being turned into a toy has to be the biggest waste of an opportunity writing and drama wise Oda has ever created. Holy crap, all we got from that situation were TWO PANELS! That still leaves me speechless to this day. What. . .the. . .hell? What happened? Drama, Oda, a chance! You're fucking excellent at creating overbrought, emotional drama! Why did you just. . .completely and unceremoniously disregard it? Seriously, in retrospect, that part of the arc doesn't even seem written by Oda. It's like a fucking bad clone of him took over the arc, and then Oda took it back right after that.

                                                    • Doflamingo's family lacks screen time. Re-read Alabasta and you'll see entire chapters dedicated to Baroque Works hijinks, even the relationships between its members. Same with CP9, Moria's crew or Skypiea priests. Fuck, the New Fishman Pirates got like 1 chapter and a half entirely for themselves, to show their quirks and abilities! Here we've seen it, but in too damned little doses. They are awesome, they have some of the best designs in the entire series and from what little we've seen of them, they have some potentially great dynamics going on. . .but they're being focused on too little!

                                                    And then other stuff like: not seeing Raijin Island (damn you forever, Oda!), not seeing the Ryuugu princes fight the NFP (a potentially more exciting fight that what we ended up having with the SH's. . .), not seeing the Fishman Karate Dojo.

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                                                      Yup, pretty much what kouch_lee said about the New world. I also agree with the crew's reunion, that was…empty. And I forgot that part about Robin turning into a toy on one panel...yes that was awful. To be honest, since the Timeskip sometimes I feel like someone else is writing this manga.

                                                      About the NW, I expected something much more...ruthless, savage. A place full of pirates fighting each others and avoiding wild monsters. And what the hell? All these people on Dressrosa have lived quite a peacefull life. Do these people even travel outside of their rock? The New World is supposed to be a hell of a place, yea, not at all. Where are the monsters, the chaotic weather and storms? At least we got a huge whale coming out of nowhere when they went to the Grand Line + the Sea kings of Calm Belt, that was cool.

                                                      We have seen crazy places in the New world but we don't go there. It's all hype, fake hype. So yea, people are stronger, that's about it. On top of that we got an admiral sitting around and a villain underestimating his enemies.

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                                                        The thing with the New World doesn't surprise me one bit since the same thing happened with the Grand Line. Back in East Blue everyone made it out to be this tempestuous graveyard of broken ships and people and then when we finally enter it…it's inhabitants live more or less very mundane lives only broken up by the occasional coup or tidal wave.

                                                        An addition to some of the stuff said above, like the reunion being too brief (I'd have at least expected a background gag of Chopper freaking out over Zoro's lost eye and him just going "So?") and fights being off-paneled, I'm going to add that I was really disappointed that the duality of Punk Hazard was never utilized. They made a big deal over its bizarre weather, but once they got to the frozen side they never once looked back.

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                                                          the only real wasted opportunity of One Piece, in my opinion, is Usopp's recent flop

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                                                            This thread in a nutshell:

                                                            "I'm gonna bitch and complain that Oda didn't do this thing exactly the way I wanted it to be".

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                                                              • Still with Dressrosa, Robin being turned into a toy has to be the biggest waste of an opportunity writing and drama wise Oda has ever created. Holy crap, all we got from that situation were TWO PANELS! That still leaves me speechless to this day. What. . .the. . .hell? What happened? Drama, Oda, a chance! You're fucking excellent at creating overbrought, emotional drama! Why did you just. . .completely and unceremoniously disregard it? Seriously, in retrospect, that part of the arc doesn't even seem written by Oda. It's like a fucking bad clone of him took over the arc, and then Oda took it back right after that.

                                                              What did you expect? She knew exactly why she was forgotten, and Usopp was still there to bring Sugar down, there was no need to get desperate. And she got reverted to human again in like 2-3 chapters.

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                                                                @Monkey:

                                                                This thread in a nutshell:

                                                                "I'm gonna bitch and complain that Oda didn't do this thing exactly the way I wanted it to be".

                                                                … Yes? Thank you captain obvious, do you have more to contribute?

                                                                And I have Bleach/Naruto/Fairy Tail topics as precedence, so fortunatly I'm not the first guy to do something like that...

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                                                                  @Darth:

                                                                  … Yes? Thank you captain obvious, do you have more to contribute?

                                                                  And I have Bleach/Naruto/Fairy Tail topics as precedence, so fortunatly I'm not the first guy to do something like that...

                                                                  I don't have anything against you or this thread, I just find that some (not all) of these complaints are dumb and pointless.

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                                                                    @Monkey:

                                                                    I don't have anything against you or this thread, I just find that some (not all) of these complaints are dumb and pointless.

                                                                    Nah, I understand. Just overeacting a little, because sometimes I do feel that I'm being unfairly judged… even if I don't particulary do anything.

                                                                    Case and point, dear mister Funk in this thread... Who, I know for the fact, speaks without any knowledge, because he has me on his ignore list.

                                                                    It makes me extremly wary, sorry to say. Don't worry about it.

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                                                                      PEOPLE WATCHING TORIKO AND HXH AND START COMPARING IT TO ONE PIECE NO WONDER THERE IS SO MUCH DISAPPOINTMENT . SHIT Oda showed us that some islands in the new world have worst weather conditions than others and yes we could have gone to rajin whatever the spelling island but because of story purposes we are on dressrosa fuck get over it as we go along things might change we just enter the new world god damit rage face

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                                                                        If only Oda was perfect to satisfy all the 12 million fans reading his manga to their taste. Damm you Oda.

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                                                                          Moria being a Shichibukai. Terribly uninteresting character. Kalifa and Kaku's powers. Robin…Just Robin. Gin needs to come back.

                                                                          There's so many I could go on forever, but the highlights are what we all know and love. Some character designs occasionally annoy me because Oda tries way too hard to be creative and it comes out ...weird.

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                                                                            Brook using a sword makes him uninteresting.
                                                                            The sword in the cane fits his character but I would have gone for something different like a whip.

                                                                            I would have loved Wiper to join, but that's personal and not a missed opportunity.

                                                                            Loads of things are still up in the air, so no other missed opportunities.

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                                                                              I'm still irate that there aren't many comfy between-arc scenes of the crew working on their dreams. For example, show a panel or two of Nami working on some maps. Have Chopper examine some stuff that could be useful for his medicine during chill time on islands. Have Sanji hear some gossip about the All Blue. Luffy's and Robin's dreams are the big ones that get the most attention. The rest of the crew is more-or-less done alright I think, but lack of focus on Nami and Chopper in particular is aggravating for me. They could be so much more interesting.

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                                                                                @Darth:

                                                                                Inspired by the words of Vagabond, I have decided to create this topic.

                                                                                What is it about? Well, manga has been ongoing for almost 18 years. While it is good (quite possibly the best Shonen out there), there are certainly things that disappointed you along the way, that made you scream in anger, or just those that you would do differently.

                                                                                And so I ask you: What do you think are the wasted opportunities of One Piece manga? What would you change, if given creative control? Would it be something small, something large? Would you conjure up a completly different story altogether?

                                                                                I'm also honestly curious if there are people that would change nothing at all.

                                                                                So yeah. Topic is here. Discuss!

                                                                                Nico Robin. The clone ability is boring. Instead I would had her use her DF to turn herself into a giant. That way Robin would both have the raw physical strength and toughness needed for serious fights and the crew would have a (part time) giant on board

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                                                                                  @Monkey:

                                                                                  I don't have anything against you or this thread, I just find that some (not all) of these complaints are dumb and pointless.

                                                                                  You are the one being dumb and pointless.

                                                                                  @Riquelme:

                                                                                  PEOPLE WATCHING TORIKO AND HXH AND START COMPARING IT TO ONE PIECE NO WONDER THERE IS SO MUCH DISAPPOINTMENT . SHIT

                                                                                  It has nothing to do with Toriko or HxH. It's simply about One Piece being One Piece.

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                                                                                  Grand Line is a wild place, it wasn't THAT dangerous but it was a wild place. Oda showed us that from the moment they entered Grand Line. The New world has been hyped to be far more dangerous and wild. So far we've got nothing of that stuff. Not even a chapter dedicated to the wildness of the New World, or Nami having difficulties avoiding a storm, a wild monster from the new world making Laboon looks like an ant, nope, none of that stuff. All we've got is that chapter dedicated to the supernovaes entering the New World.

                                                                                  Oda had the opportunity to back up his claims about the New world, and make it wilder than Grand Line. If Grand Line is a paradise, then show us why the New world is a hell of a place. I'm not asking much, am I? Well, it's been 100 chapters so far and it's something that shoud have started right from the start.

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                                                                                    First of all, Sakazuki should be the main character, traveling around the world magma-fisting evil pirates and cocky scholars.

                                                                                    Now to be a bit more on-topic: I agree with the complaints about the NW. It really was hyped as this dangerous and life-threatening place where you see crazy weather, unbelievable islands, and opponents so strong you have to use more than just plot-armor to get around them. And what did we get? Our heroes curb-stomping everything in their way, aided by their sidekick Law. Yeah, yeah, there's Doflamingo and he's admiral-akainu-riding-on-kizaru-level, but he too will get defeated one way or another. And his oh-so-strong officers… well, let's just say it's not looking good for 'em either.
                                                                                    Overall there's just no tension whatsoever to be felt. I thought there might be in PH what with marines getting petrified left and right, but even that got a happy end. And even the evil scientist conducting experiments on CHILDREN is now everybody's favourite clown.
                                                                                    Needless to mention the virtually non-existent sense of adventure I loved so much in the earlier chapters of the story; in the first half of the GL in particular.

                                                                                    Wasted opportunities? Nico Robin fighting against Trebol. Maybe even teaming up with Usopp to make for some awesome and mind-blowing tactics. But nope, Usopp scaring the shit out of Sugar was the way that fight was settled. And as expected, almost everyone loved it, calling Oda a fucking genius bla bla bla

                                                                                    There's cool things happening in the story despite my complaints, but it just feels so shallow to me compared to the early days. What would you expect though? Even Oda is just one man and can only do so much without killing himself. And even if he says he has millions of ideas, he too is skipping stuff or keeping it short in order to at some point conclude things. It's a shame but at least you can relate to it.

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                                                                                      recently,I got rather disappointed by how the whole Mocha problem got solved..it was an amazing time to give chopper some other character development,or at least let appear the situation as important (even though we all know that oda doesn't kill anyone,let alone children)…instead chopper just brought her in a room and cured her,it basically amounted to nothign other than resolving the whole "candy problem"

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                                                                                        Grand Line is a wild place, it wasn't THAT dangerous but it was a wild place. Oda showed us that from the moment they entered Grand Line. The New world has been hyped to be far more dangerous and wild. So far we've got nothing of that stuff. Not even a chapter dedicated to the wildness of the New World, or Nami having difficulties avoiding a storm, a wild monster from the new world making Laboon looks like an ant, nope, none of that stuff. All we've got is that chapter dedicated to the supernovaes entering the New World.

                                                                                        Oda had the opportunity to back up his claims about the New world, and make it wilder than Grand Line. If Grand Line is a paradise, then show us why the New world is a hell of a place. I'm not asking much, am I? Well, it's been 100 chapters so far and it's something that shoud have started right from the start.

                                                                                        Come on, now you're just ignoring stuff to validate your arguments.

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                                                                                          I don't get this argument that the NW hasn't been living up to its hype. The Straw Hats have already faced many challenges that would have wiped them out had they not powered themselves up. Maybe because it's only against Doflamingo that they've started to struggle but wasn't that the point? To show they're ahead of the curve. Which they need to be to have a hope of beating an Emperor?

                                                                                          Just from the three places they've been to and only counting the natural phenomenon and creatures not the powerful opponents (which do count), they've had to go against a volcano, an underwater tornado, an assortment of dangerous deep sea creatures, a sea of flames, killer bull sharks and a flippin' dragon.

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                                                                                            Sending Fujitora to Dressrosa.
                                                                                            Why not Kizaru or Akainu himself. People who would've made this arc end long ago, no black or white judgements, pirate is pirate, Shichibukai or not.

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                                                                                              The dragons aren't natural if I remember correctly.

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                                                                                                Oars stomping on all the super cool general zombies springs to mind.

                                                                                                Captain John deserved a better fate than that.

                                                                                                Oh and that Jabra's rooster wasn't Usopps inner chicken that he had to face was also a harsh blow

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                                                                                                  Oh and that Jabra's rooster wasn't Usopps inner chicken that he had to face was also a harsh blow

                                                                                                  Blackbeard will give Van Augur the Chicken Chicken Fruit. Thus Usopp's final battle shall be…himself.

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                                                                                                    Sabo's reintroduction.

                                                                                                    Should've been saved for when Luffy and co. reach the island that Ace and Newgate are buried in.

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                                                                                                      Its interesting just how many of the complaints are from the last 4 months or so.

                                                                                                      Is it Oda slipping, or is it the audience being more picky with the recent week-to-week, and they'll be fine with most of these things once the full arc is done and we've seen the planned payoff, moved on, and we're in the next area?

                                                                                                      And of course, the initial NW is weaker than promised… they spent 2 years training after struggling and barely surviving for two arcs and then having their asses completely and utterly destroyed at Sabondy. That training would have been a complete waste of narrative if they just instantly got their butts kicked again... they had to be monsters again for a little while like they were originally... but they're already hitting enemies at their level on the second island. But we've already seen inklings and hints of scarier things to come... crazy islands, weather, big monsters, and of course the emperors. (like TLC said, in two arcs they've had to go against a volcano, an underwater tornado, an assortment of dangerous deep sea creatures, a sea of flames, killer bull sharks and a dragon. and we've seen glimpses of the paths not-travelled like lightning island and gravity island. Willfully ignoring those things doesn't mean they aren't there.)

                                                                                                      Yes, its dissapointing when Oda skips right through a fight... because it used to be he'd show those things in their entirety at length... but then we also end up in situations where we spend an entire extra year in an arc just getting one on one insignificant fight scenes, like in Skypeia, or Enies Lobby. I agree that the Thriller Bark general zombies getting stomped was a waste, but that was almost certainly a pacing thing, and Oda realizing after setting that up, that they'd be there for another half year if they ended up fighting all those cool guys. We're just now getting to the important fight territory, not a lot of reason to waste time on the early setup fights before the real consequences and danger have set in.

                                                                                                      I'd rather not repeat EL's year long 3 volume fight sequence of every strawhat getting an equal one on one three chapter fight anytime soon. (And if the anime was doing its job, THEY'D fill in the fights, its a great filler opportunity, but of course they suck and don't take advantage.)

                                                                                                      (As for not seeing the Fishman Island dojo, I was relieved on that account once we saw Hack and Koala and it became clear that any significant sights or characters that we would have seen there are going to be later, and there would have been nothing storywise to see there... just how the building looks. Koala the trained human in Fishman Karate is more interesting than any regular fishman would be... we'll possibly get some of it when we see Jinbe's final flashback eventually or catch up more with Sabo and Koala. It's hard to believe that Oda not only skipped showing the landmark, but also that didn't get a TON of people asking about the dojo and hasn't adressed it in an SBS without some reason to hold off.)

                                                                                                      Some of these wasted opportunities are things long gone... but some of them are things Oda's still holding in reserve for pacing.

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                                                                                                      When Luffy was poisoned by Magellan at Impel Down, he endured hours of sufferings and survived only thanks to his will. From a storytelling standpoint, I think it was the best moment to give us Luffy's flashback (the one with Ace and Sabo).

                                                                                                      Luffy on his deathbed, then you stop and go into a flashback for 8 chapters, that has no major connection to the location or villain at the time? That would have destroyed the pace and tension of the arc entirely. A better spot would have been right after Impel down on the way to the war… because that would have given us a stronger connection to Ace and Luffy's determination... but that has the same problem, and either way it would have blown the Ace is Roger's son and not really Luffy's brother bit, AND we would have been waiting on Sabo to show the whole time. That was a hard flashback to position for a lot of reasons.

                                                                                                      Oda plops in flashbacks in the middle of arcs all the time, but they usually reinforce the narrative of that specific area. Suddenly going back to Luffy's hometown would have just thrown things off a lot.

                                                                                                      (Where it was actually placed let us feel stronger for Ace retroactively, and makes things better on repeat viewings.)

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                                                                                                        @MasterKingJC:

                                                                                                        Whitebeard never having the chance to use his mustache as a boomerang is one of the biggest wasted opportunities in the manga.

                                                                                                        One Piece can never be been truly great without it.

                                                                                                        I'm on board with this one, i thought the same thing before.

                                                                                                        @Robby:

                                                                                                        Its interesting just how many of the complaints are from the last 4 months or so.

                                                                                                        Is it Oda slipping, or is it the audience being more picky with the recent week-to-week, and they'll be fine with most of these things once the full arc is done and we've seen the planned payoff, moved on, and we're in the next area?

                                                                                                        People just need to chillout and smoke some weed to ease the stress. Besides that Post time skip Ussop has been wasted potential for obvious reasons. Also NW in general but i feel it's picking up now and is on the right track since the story isn't jumping all over the place, there still is alot of things we haven't seen in the NW yet so i cant wait to see what the next arcs will be like.

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