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    • Johnny B. Decent
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      I wonder what that "Green Blood" substance that the Seraphim have? Apparently, all of them have a section on their right arm where it's visible, and like....what is it?

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        @Johnny-B-Decent It's green? That's interesting

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          Need assistance with some translations and filler scenes.

          In the anime, Ivankov says "blood will tell".
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          In the manga, he says something different, which is most likely the same sentiment.
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          Now they both can possibly be the same thing, but then in a filler moment in the recent episode, Queen says this to Sanji
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          The manga did not have good portion of that Sanji/Queen fight and discussion. Why did the anime add that?

          I'm starting to feel the same vibe as when the anime would use filler to make me further suspect the possibility of Zoro being born with CoC. The gambling scene with Yasuie.

          I'm thinking it's all just simply saying what Ivankov said in the manga panel above (he has your blood).

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            Was it stated somewhere that the seraphim are only 7? Is it possibile that there is one for every pirate who has been a warlord?

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              @crlsdc So far there's only four known.

              However, there are 7 numbered doors in the room where they are kept. The known Seraphim occupy doors 1-4.

              Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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              • Captain M
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                We know that while you can accelerate the process, you can't just create an adult clone out of nowhere. Germa takes fives years to grow a soldier, but they're just making normal humans. Maybe we can assume the gestation time for a Seraphim is cut down by booting them up as kids, but also expanded by needing to outfit them with lasers and ensure green blood compatibility. The bottom line of which being I'd be willing to accept that they just haven't had time to work on Seraphim for all the Warlords that joined in the past two years.

                Vivre Card Archive One Piece in One Piece Covers Compilation

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                  @Captain-M The thing is that Bonney is in this arc... I really think she's going to make the Seraphim adults. I can't shake the feeling that the villain will recruit her with promises of restoring her father.

                  And even if Bonney does not join him, I was thinking about those age crystals that Bonney extracted from Vegapunk. If they contain Vegapunk's years, maybe they can be transfered to someone else?

                  If the Seraphim end up aged up indeed, there could potentially be more of them that are just too young right now to be deployed, and could then become teenagers/adults.

                  The thing is that each Seraphim is around an Emperor commander in power (I think), so who would be able to fight the 3 extra ones?

                  Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                  • electricmastro
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                    With all this talk of demons and heaven, I've pondered at the idea of vehicles in the One Piece world being able to travel to the underworld, aka "hell". The game Okami brought up this idea of having an Ark which lets you travel between celestial planes, so I think it would be pretty wild if Oda had something like Pluton the battleship be so out there, that you could basically travel to another plane of existence.

                    It sounds abstract, but I think Oda would be able to go for it if he wanted to.

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                      @Deicide I did think of Bonney doing it to soup them up to defend the island from Borsalino, but I hadn't considered her working with the enemy inside the lab. Interesting ideas.

                      Vivre Card Archive One Piece in One Piece Covers Compilation

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                      • Coookie
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                        What you're also forgetting is that Seraphim are insanely expensive and require a lot of testing. Even after disregarding the time it takes for one to fully develop, other resources are still limited so Vegapunk can't just mass-produce them like regular Pacifista. The Seraphim strike me more as the "quality over quantity" type.
                        Bonney's powers are also still temporary on living beings by her own words, so if Oda ages up the Seraphim for this arc only and assuming that they'll stick around for the final war, they'll essentially be nerfed at that point because they'll be short of their full potential. Unless of course Oda introduces some other method to permanently age them up again.

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                        • Deicide
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                          I don't see the Seraphim being used beyond Egghead. They are a nice way to get strong opponents and they carry some personal conflicts for the crew (at least the Kuma, Mihawk and Jinbe ones) but they aren't really interesting as characters. So, I imagine them turned into adults now, being defeated, and then returning to children, but now as "free" rather than just robots.

                          Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                            Was it stated something about the relationship between Ulti’s father and Kaido? The wiki seem to imply that they knew each other

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                              @crlsdc It’s from a SBS. If I’m not mistaken, that pirate was an enemy/rival but Kaido respected him. Check if the wiki has any references, they’ll probably point to the SBS question.

                              The wiki also has a SBS section with all questions and answers.

                              Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.

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                                Ok, so turns out Uta was 2 when Shanks found her, 19 years ago. So it would be.

                                Shanks - 20
                                Beckman - 31
                                Roux - 16
                                Yasopp - 28

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                                • Johnny B. Decent
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                                  Lucky Roux's poor heart is the real workhorse of the Red Hair Pirates.

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