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    • Forte EXE
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      Okay…I'm pretty stumped at choosing my new comp.
      Here's the specs.
      First is a Dell Dimension 3000 with Intel Pentium 4 processor with HT technology,3.0Hz and 1MB L2 Cache
      17" flat panel monitor(E173FP)
      256MB shared DDR SDHRAM
      40GB Hard drive
      16X DVD ROM
      Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics 2
      Dell A215 Stereo speakers
      1 year warranty
      Can be upgraded to a 48X CD/DVD Combo drive,Dell A425 Speakers with Subwoofers....Costs $2449

      The other one is a Dell Dimension 9100 with Intel Pentium D Processor 830 with Dual Core Processor 3.0Hz,
      Intel 945P Express Chipset
      17" Flat Panel Monitor(same as above)
      512MB DDR-2 SDRAM at 533MHz
      80GB SATA Hard drive
      48X CD Burner/DVD combo drive
      128MB ATI Radeon x300 SE HyperMemory
      Dell A425 Speakers with subwoofers
      1 year warranty
      Can be upgraded to 1GB DDR-2 SDRAM at 533MHz
      Costs $3899

      So...which one do you guys think I should get for my money?

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        If i were you, i would pick the second one. Seems like a good anime/gaming computer although a DIY computer would be nicer.

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        • Forte EXE
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          A DIY computer would be excellent,but I lack the time and money to buy the parts and put them together…

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            You could always run to Singapore and go Sim Lim Square. As long as you have the moolah, they'll build it up for you. If not, stick to build 2 ^^

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              What currency are those prices? Those numbers scare me.
              And whatever you do get at LEAST 512mb of ram. Bare minimum.

              And you can dream - So dream out loud

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              • Bounty1Berry
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                @Forte:

                Okay…I'm pretty stumped at choosing my new comp.
                Here's the specs.
                First is a Dell Dimension 3000 with Intel Pentium 4 processor with HT technology,3.0Hz and 1MB L2 Cache
                17" flat panel monitor(E173FP)
                256MB shared DDR SDHRAM
                40GB Hard drive
                16X DVD ROM
                Integrated Intel Extreme Graphics 2
                Dell A215 Stereo speakers
                1 year warranty
                Can be upgraded to a 48X CD/DVD Combo drive,Dell A425 Speakers with Subwoofers....Costs $2449

                The other one is a Dell Dimension 9100 with Intel Pentium D Processor 830 with Dual Core Processor 3.0Hz,
                Intel 945P Express Chipset
                17" Flat Panel Monitor(same as above)
                512MB DDR-2 SDRAM at 533MHz
                80GB SATA Hard drive
                48X CD Burner/DVD combo drive
                128MB ATI Radeon x300 SE HyperMemory
                Dell A425 Speakers with subwoofers
                1 year warranty
                Can be upgraded to 1GB DDR-2 SDRAM at 533MHz
                Costs $3899

                So...which one do you guys think I should get for my money?

                Both machines have terrible graphics cards, if you're considering gaming. Integrated video or "turbocache" and "hypermemory" cards actually use the system's memory…. the "128Mb" card may only have as little as 16Mb on it, and steals the rest.

                I notice very little memory there too.

                What I'd get, personally:

                -I wouldn't go for Dell, because Dell doesn't do Athlons. I also hear they overcharge for memory upgrades.

                -An Athlon 64 at like 3200 or 3500, or an Athlon X2 at 3800. Get socket 939 and PCI-express mainboard, and you'll be able to upgrade to the fastest Athlon FX and X2 chips, and the . USD 300 or so for a 3200, heatsink, and board, maybe less.
                -1Gb of memory. A 1Gb kit will cost less than 100 USD. Get a matched pair of 512M sticks, so you can install it in "dual-channel" mode for better performance.
                -A stand-alone graphics card. Either an x800 series or a 6800 series, costs between USD 130 (for the slowest 6800s) to 200.
                -160Gb hard disc. Serial ATA is still not a performance boost of note, but you can get a 160Gb Seagate (best warranty in the industry) for about 90 dollars.
                -DVD burner; a decent 16x one will run you like $50, and the CD or DVD reader is still $20, so you're not saving much by not having one.

                Here's an interesting consideration: What about a secondhand monitor? There are a lot of very nice, few-year-old, "refurbished" 20-21-22" flat-CRTs out there, for between USD 100 and 250 or so. It won't cost significantly more than the 17" LCD, but you'll get true blacks (the nature of an LCD prevents it from making really black blacks), more screen space (equal to a hypothetical ~19.5" LCD depending on model) and more resolution flexibility.

                I can see if you don't have the time, but building it yourself can save you money, because you can choose where to economize on parts you don't need the best of. You can also recycle bits of your old machine, like the input devices, the disc drives, and possibly the case and power supply. You might try inquiring at small local computer shops which do build-to-order.

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                • Slaygore
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                  First tell me where you are, cause those prices are massive. Where I'm from, I can get those comps for only 1000 bucks or less. And tell us how much you are willing to spend.

                  I would go with the first one and you can easily boost the hard drive to 100GB and the memory to a GB for a couple of 100 US dollars.

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                  Can you make the possible impossible?_

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                  • Forte EXE
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                    It's in Ringgit.
                    And I can only choose between these 2…my mom won't let me get any others..

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                      If it's a choice between the two or nothing then I would definitely say the 9100. It is much more expandable and 'future-proof' than the 3000 which is old technology and low end at that. I'm pretty sure it doesn't even have an agp slot where the 9100 has pci-express (wave of the future my son, wave of the future). Also, the 3000 will probably have a Hitachi Deskstar for its hard drive and they are CRAP (the Deskstar series gained fame back when IBM was still making them for failing in under a year and quickly gained the nickname Deathstar).

                      I would consider getting the most stripped down 9100 possible and doing little upgrades here and there. B1B was right saying that Dell overcharges for memory upgrades. The only upgrade I like from Dell is going with an Ultrasharp monitor instead of the analog one. The difference is pretty big.

                      It seems that the price gap between the two systems is bigger than it should be but the 3000 is really a dead end.

                      That's my two cents for what its worth.

                      And you can dream - So dream out loud

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