Again that's just speculation, prove to me that the meteors were the same size.
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One Piece Chapter 745: Birdcage
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Again that's just speculation, prove to me that the meteors were the same size.
Chapters 724 and 713. Check for yourself. On a phone and linking is quite annoying.
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You lack understanding of physics. A meteor of that size can completely wipe of the map Green bit. Plus "You talk as if you know they come out from space". Wtf, were they come from? his pocket?
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Why does it matter, even slightly, how big the meteors that Fuji pulled down were?
Stop trying to apply real world physics to OP.
See the classic "if Kizaru actually moved at the speed of light yada yada yada" arguments for details of how this is a pointless endeavour.
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@Flipper:
We can't talk about limits of course. But what i will say is why didnt Fujitora create a bigger meteor to completely crush the sunny out of oblivion. All there was under him and the sunny was water.
I was never talking about impacts and the damage.
What Im talking about is, is that these meteors are really tiny. People think they're as big as Dressrosa even. That's my point.
But what of it? Fujitora didn't create a bigger meteor to crush Sunny because the one he summoned was big enough if Law wasn't on it. And he is not the one to overdo stuff.
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Why does it matter, even slightly, how big the meteors that Fuji pulled down were?
Stop trying to apply real world physics to OP.
See the classic "if Kizaru actually moved at the speed of light yada yada yada" arguments for details of how this is a pointless endeavour.
I know. And I find annoying, that's all.
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@D:
You lack understanding of physics. A meteor of that size can completely wipe of the map Green bit. Plus "You talk as if you know they come out from space". Wtf, were they come from? his pocket?
Yeah pretty much. We don't even know yet. It's just mere speculation.
Yeah i do lack a misunderstanding of physics. But no one was thinking about the physics of the meteors until darth mentioned it.
People were talking like "meteor big. Meteor big as Dressrosa. Meteor crush Dressrosa" dumb monotone voice.
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No news on the new chapter
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Why does it matter, even slightly, how big the meteors that Fuji pulled down were?
Stop trying to apply real world physics to OP.
See the classic "if Kizaru actually moved at the speed of light yada yada yada" arguments for details of how this is a pointless endeavour.
People were thinking and still are that the meteors at green bit would crush Dressrosa because of their "size".
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_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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@Flipper:
Not to mention it doesn't matter the size. They will get sliced up anyways.
Actually, size does matter. If physics worked in One Piece, which it doesn't, Fujitora could've easily wipe out Dressrosa of the map, strings or not. Mostly because slicing meteor that low above earth would do little to lover the impact force.
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@Flipper:
People were thinking and still are that the meteors at green bit would crush Dressrosa because of their "size".
In the real world, maybe.
In the real world, though, old blind men generally don't drag huge rocks out of the sky.
So let's just leave it there.
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But what of it? Fujitora didn't create a bigger meteor to crush Sunny because the one he summoned was big enough if Law wasn't on it. And he is not the one to overdo stuff.
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I know. And I find annoying, that's all.
Overdoing and underdoing is speculation now.
You're the one that bought up the physics what are you on about lol
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@Flipper:
Yeah pretty much. We don't even know yet. It's just mere speculation.
Yeah i do lack a misunderstanding of physics. But no one was thinking about the physics of the meteors until darth mentioned it.
People were talking like "meteor big. Meteor big as Dressrosa. Meteor crush Dressrosa" dumb monotone voice.
No mate **we know.**It is a meteor. Its not speculation to think that it comes from outer space, pulled by fuji gravitation power. Don't try make thinks up just to deny something you don't like.
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@Flipper:
Overdoing and underdoing is speculation now.
You're the one that bought up the physics what are you on about lol
I have no idea what you are talking about right now.
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Actually, size does matter. If physics worked in One Piece, which it doesn't, Fujitora could've easily wipe out Dressrosa of the map, strings or not. Mostly because slicing meteor that low above earth would do little to lover the impact force.
I know that Darth.. I never said it would reduce an impact or not.
Omg you actually think i think its like a tramploline or something.
The goal is to take down the birdcage. Not kill everyone in it. A massive meteor the size of Dressrosa comes through, gets sliced, blows up, kills everyone on the island and the birdcage still stands. (Unless the source is completely destroyed.)
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In the real world, maybe.
In the real world, though, old blind men generally don't drag huge rocks out of the sky.
So let's just leave it there.
Misunderstood me. Real world or not, that meteor wasn't even the size of greenbit. Peoples thinking are "put that meteor on birdcage, destroys it all".
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@Flipper:
Misunderstood me. Real world or not, that meteor wasn't even the size of greenbit. Peoples thinking are "put that meteor on birdcage, destroys it all".
Including everyone on the island, most likely.
There's no way Isshou would take that route.
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I have no idea what you are talking about right now.
You're the one that brought up physics into the realm of one piece, yet you're the one annoyed by that fact.
You think Fujitora can create meteors to whichever size he wants yet no one really knows that. So saying he could "overdo" something is just speculation.
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Including everyone on the island, most likely.
There's no way Isshou would take that route.
You're talking as if the tiny meteor could.
Either way Fujitora is at a loss so we can leave it there.
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@Flipper:
You're the one that brought up physics into the realm of one piece, yet you're the one annoyed by that fact.
You think Fujitora can create meteors to whichever size he wants yet no one really knows that. So saying he could "overdo" something is just speculation.
That's a rather weird logic behind it, to be honest.
And I still fail to see what physics have to do with any of it.
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That's a rather weird logic behind it, to be honest.
And I still fail to see what physics have to do with any of it.
????????? Are you serious?
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@Flipper:
You're talking as if the tiny meteor could.
Either way Fujitora is at a loss so we can leave it there.
I fail to see why would fujitora summon a rock that would kill everyone on Dressrosa to get rid of strings, when he has a lot of much better option then that.
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@Flipper:
????????? Are you serious?
Yeah, ignoring you now.
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I fail to see why would fujitora summon a rock that would kill everyone on Dressrosa to get rid of strings, when he has a lot of much better option then that.
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Yeah, ignoring you now.
A much better option which is something he won't end up attempting because Luffy and co will finish it whilst Fujitora maintains his role on land.
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@Flipper:
You're talking as if the tiny meteor could.
Either way Fujitora is at a loss so we can leave it there.
It's pretty easy to imagine that Fuji can bring down meteors of essentially any size he wants down from space.
IIRC, wasn't he eating ramen when he brought the meteor down on the Sunny? Basically not even trying, in the slightest.
He could most likely bring down a meteor large enough to destroy Dressrosa in it's entirety, if he wanted to.
Since it's not a viable option when it comes to civilian casualties though, he won't.
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@Flipper:
A much better option which is something he won't end up attempting because Luffy and co will finish it whilst Fujitora maintains his role on land.
Yeah, cause Oda is famous for leaving a build-up without pay-off.
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You guys are overanalyzing things. Stop it
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Yeah, cause Oda is famous for leaving a build-up without pay-off.
Zoro is the one to bring down the birdcage. As people will find out that brute force will not work. Zoro will be at it's power source and shut it down. Fujitora isn't part of the main protagonists.
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@The:
You guys are overanalyzing things. Stop it
I already tried to be the voice of reason, buddy.
It was ineffective.
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@Flipper:
Zoro is the one to bring down the birdcage. As people will find out that brute force will not work. Zoro will be at it's power source and shut it down. Fujitora isn't part of the main protagonists.
Because Straw Hats were never saved by someone who wasn't a main protagonist in the past.
Oh, wait…
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Would be so much nicer if Fujitora's "Meteors" actually were huge pieces of rock that Fujitora has levitated into the atmosphere and keeps them hanging there above him no matter where here goes.
I find it to random that meteors just happen to be where he needs them to be and I would be more content if Fujitora has prepared his trick. -
Because Straw Hats were never saved by someone who wasn't a main protagonist in the past.
Oh, wait…
Im sorry to say but to the Strawhats Fujitora is the antagonist. They never formed an alliance. Fujitora has respect for Luffy after the bar but he has to round em up.
Yes in the past the Strawhats have been saved by Rayleigh etc but remember in the end the Strawhats are going to resolve the issue. They help in which marines do not. This has been proven time and time again. Arc after arc. In which the Strawhats come across problems in which marines can't resolve or aren't bothered helping.
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The Birdcage ain't coming down till Mingo is defeated or forced to retreat.
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Would be so much nicer if Fujitora's "Meteors" actually were huge pieces of rock that Fujitora has levitated into the atmosphere and keeps them hanging there above him no matter where here goes.
I find it to random that meteors just happen to be where he needs them to be and I would be more content if Fujitora has prepared his trick.I like your thoughts. I doubt he can instantly say "hmm i need to find a meteor this size to do the job scanning" and pull that down in such a small time frame.
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@Flipper:
Im sorry to say but to the Strawhats Fujitora is the antagonist. They never formed an alliance. Fujitora has respect for Luffy after the bar but he has to round em up.
Yes in the past the Strawhats have been saved by Rayleigh etc but remember in the end the Strawhats are going to resolve the issue. They help in which marines do not. This has been proven time and time again. Arc after arc. In which the Strawhats come across problems in which marines can't resolve or aren't bothered helping.
Sixteen characters of Alabasta.
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-Is Fuji the new Kuzan?
-Yes, it is! Almost everyone can see this thing. May help or be a "friend" with the SH's for a while but he is naturally antagonist. May leave them run in the end of the arc like Smoker or Garp (Alabasta, Enies Lobby) but is an enemy of them. Like what Kuzan did in W7We can only wait and see what Oda have in his mind about how Fuji will act with the crew in this arc
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@Flipper:
Exactly my point.
The marines proved ineffective there.
But forces that are on Dressrosa now(and on way to it) cant be compared to what we had back then in Alabasta.
Here we have admiral, veteran vice admiral and quite a number of new world marines. Back then we had Smoker, Tashigi and some number of weak marines.
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We all could use some spoilers.
We were expecting them to be early. Instead they will come out late.
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But forces that are on Dressrosa now(and on way to it) cant be compared to what we had back then in Alabasta.
Here we have admiral, veteran vice admiral and quite a number of new world marines. Back then we had Smoker, Tashigi and some number of weak marines.
And a fodder Vice Admiral :ninja:
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But forces that are on Dressrosa now(and on way to it) cant be compared to what we had back then in Alabasta.
Here we have admiral, veteran vice admiral and quite a number of new world marines. Back then we had Smoker, Tashigi and some number of weak marines.
I know but Fujitora can't run the entire island and fix it all up when you have a flamingo mad man making everyone kill each other.
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@Flipper:
Exactly my point.
The marines proved ineffective there.
Smoker ended the civil war. Or at least was heavily implied to do so.
Marine with secondary protanists characteristics, saving people of the country from the plot by the villains while Straw Hats proved completly inneffective in doing so. Gee, thank god that never happened.
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Smoker ended the civil war. Or at least was heavily implied to do so.
Marine with secondary protanists characteristics, saving people of the country from the plot by the villains while Straw Hats proved completly inneffective. Gee, thank god that never happened.
Umm tashigi was talking about how useless they were.
Luffy defeated crocodile. The Strawhats found the bomb. Pell saved everyone.
Tell me more on how Smoker single handedly did all this.
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@Flipper:
Umm tashigi was talking about how useless they were.
Luffy defeated crocodile. The Strawhats found the bomb. Pell saved everyone.
Tell me more on how Smoker single handedly did all this.
You do remember that the civil war was still raging at that time, right?
It stopped after the rain fall.
Which was heavily implied to be Smokers doing.
So…?
Tashigi and her party were completly useless, but not for the lack of trying. You on the other hand seem to be implying that Fujitora won't even try to do anything.
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You do remember that the civil war was still raging at that time, right?
It stopped after the rain fall.
Which was heavily implied to be Smokers doing.
So…?
Tashigi and her party were completly useless, but not for the lack of trying. You on the other hand seem to be implying that Fujitora won't even try to do anything.
Well i never said he wouldn't do anything. For one it has to be confirmed that he is against Doflamingo. Fujitora did say;
"no matter what comes to the surface of this country, i am a blind man and i see nothing".
Lets say he tries to do something about the cage using his DF he will find out it's not working and doesn't know the details yet whereas law can tell the Strawhats what to do.
Fujitora is an Admiral, he is powerful but he can't be everywhere and solve everything.
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You do remember that the civil war was still raging at that time, right?
It stopped after the rain fall.
Which was heavily implied to be Smokers doing.
So…?
Tashigi and her party were completly useless, but not for the lack of trying. You on the other hand seem to be implying that Fujitora won't even try to do anything.
You have to man up
and admit that if not for Strawhats all work that marines did would be undone. Marines were doing small tasks while Strawhats were dealing with source of problem.This is manga about pirates not marines
Your fav manga by Oda would have to be named "One Fist" probably and tell story of a guy that falcon punches everyone with magma fist :ninja:
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@Flipper:
Well i never said he wouldn't do anything. For one it has to be confirmed that he is against Doflamingo. Fujitora did say;
"no matter what comes to the surface of this country, i am a blind man and i see nothing".
Lets say he tries to do something about the cage using his DF he will find out it's not working and doesn't know the details yet whereas law can tell the Strawhats what to do.
Fujitora is an Admiral, he is powerful but he can't be everywhere and solve everything.
I think you've been reading this manga wrong, for the last 4 pages, many things you say seem completely coming out of the blue.
Fujitora is NOT against doflamingo, that sentence meant that he'd close on eye on everything doflamingo did, and his primary objective is law and the strawhats.
second of all, had he wanted, fujitora would have wrecked doflamingo's shit.
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I fail to see why would fujitora summon a rock that would kill everyone on Dressrosa to get rid of strings, when he has a lot of much better option then that.
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Yeah, ignoring you now.
That option being just using his gravity to push the strings outwards. We have seen he can do that with his flying rock. We have also seen that he can effortlessly destroy a rock with the force he creates (which actually means nothing seeing they already did that kind of thing in the Kuro arc :D) but his force is definitely high enough to push away some bladed strings. Also Pica can control the surface of the Island? My guess is Isshou kan too…
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You have to man up
and admit that if not for Strawhats all work that marines did would be undone. Marines were doing small tasks while Strawhats were dealing with source of problem.This is manga about pirates not marines
Your fav manga by Oda would have to be named "One Fist" probably and tell story of a guy that falcon punches everyone with magma fist :ninja:
I really hope before the manga ends we have covers of an alternate life, where luffy and ace are admirals.
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You have to man up
and admit that if not for Strawhats all work that marines did would be undone. Marines were doing small tasks while Strawhats were dealing with source of problem.This is manga about pirates not marines
Your fav manga by Oda would have to be named "One Fist" probably and tell story of a guy that falcon punches everyone with magma fist :ninja:
I would love that, yes
But more seriously, not arguing Fujitora will deal with everything, but he should have at least something to do. I refuse to believe an Admiral will do nothing the entire arc just because Straw Hats are protagonists. If that was the case, Oda would not hype him up. Or his suspicions of DD for that matter.
Also, I admit that work of the straw hats was important and instrumental. But so was Smoker's.
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@LordEnel:
I think you've been reading this manga wrong, for the last 4 pages, many things you say seem completely coming out of the blue.
Fujitora is NOT against doflamingo, that sentence meant that he'd close on eye on everything doflamingo did, and his primary objective is law and the strawhats.
second of all, had he wanted, fujitora would have wrecked doflamingo's shit.
What is Doflamingos shit? :L
Im not saying Im 100% sure he is against DD and Im not saying he isn't 100%. We need to wait for this chapter no?
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@Flipper:
Well i never said he wouldn't do anything. For one it has to be confirmed that he is against Doflamingo. Fujitora did say;
"no matter what comes to the surface of this country, i am a blind man and i see nothing".
Lets say he tries to do something about the cage using his DF he will find out it's not working and doesn't know the details yet whereas law can tell the Strawhats what to do.
Fujitora is an Admiral, he is powerful but he can't be everywhere and solve everything.
I'm arguing that he will have some really important side job. Taking care of Birdcage, in this scenario, is a side job. Main one is taking care of Doflamingo and his subordinates.
