pirate can't cash in anything
not with akainu being the fleet admiralat best it can work if said guy becomes a shichibukai using luffy's head
Use a middleman…
Next Bounty Predictions (Dressrosa Arc)
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The ideas of bounties was really cool beforehand, but now that they are so important I care little about them.
Bounties will soon look like power levels, you have a 700 bounty but mihawk has 680 and shanks 710.
Ew sounds awful.
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@LordEnel:
The ideas of bounties was really cool beforehand, but now that they are so important I care little about them.
Bounties will soon look like power levels, you have a 700 bounty but mihawk has 680 and shanks 710.
Ew sounds awful.
Not really the Bounties indicate the danger that you represent to the world, like Robin bounty is mostly based on her ability to read poneglyphs, it still represents the same, Luffy didn't get a raise just because of him beating Doflamingo, he got a raise because of all that happened in Dressrosa, Punk Hazard, his alliance with Law, its power levels if you want it to be powerlevels.
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Bounties and titles are great for determining the importance of an unknown character. The thing is though that we are so far into the story that the only new high-bounty-characters we will see from now on will be rookies (not so relevant) or subordinates of already known characters (relevant, but moreso because of their ranking below important characters). Subordinates usually have lower bounties than they would otherwise have if they went solo, so even then the bounties don't really reflect the reality.
Regarding bounties and the Strawhats: Of course I think it is necessary for Luffy to get an increase in his bounty after every major incident. It shows that there have been officials who have evaluated his threat to the World Government. However the number itself doesn't really tell a lot. Before Impel Down and Marineford Luffy was mostly known by outside characters for his bounty and somewhat for his recklessness. Having a bounty show up as the only information was a great way for other characters to suddenly get surprised as they realised Luffy and his crew weren't some no-names.
After Impel Down and Marineford basically everyone has heard of "Strawhat", and very few people will not be able to recognise Luffy from all the newspaper articles and bounty photos, and it will be the stuff Luffy have been through (Enies Lobby, Marineford, Impel Down, Dressrosa, Sabaody Archipegalo, possibly Alabasta and his relation to Garp and Ace) that people will think of when they hear of Luffy. Not his 500 million bounty.However I still think it is cool when the other Strawhat members get a bounty increase. Usually Zoro and Robin are recognised, and sometimes Sanji. By giving the SHs higher bounties their name and pressence in a stand-alone context also increases.
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What is important is that Luffy's bounty is higher than Jinbe so he can join the SH with no objections.
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Knowing Oda he would probably cap out Luffy's bounty at 560.
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Knowing Oda ? 560 million ?
I don't get it.
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Luffy's bounty will likely stay at 500 million for a bit until he does something really big like defeat Kaido and bring him down from being an Emperor. I imagine the few people who currently have a bounty in the billions are Dragon, the Yonkou and likely Rayleigh, so if Luffy doesn't get in that range by beating Kaido, he will when he becomes Pirate King, I'd wager.
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For the longest I kept thinking Ace's bounty was 500 million so I kept predicting that much for Luffy as way to show that he "caught up" to Ace. Then I was reminded Ace was 550 so I've been pitching that. Though 500 is a nice smooth number, great for merchandise that will be made for years to come. I know it sounds a little silly but because of merchandise I'm guessing every bounty Luffy gets will be a single digit from 1-9 followed by nothing but zeroes. In 5 or so years when the first Emperor is defeated, I await Luffy's 567, 910,123 million berry bounty to prove me horribly wrong.
The next few chapters are going on be so exciting and I know we will get teased and teased for chapters on end when it comes to discovering everyone else's new bounties.
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What is important is that Luffy's bounty is higher than Jinbe so he can join the SH with no objections.
Yeah thats another excuse gone, they said Jinbe bounty was 400 something so 500 surpasses it for sure.
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What is important is that Luffy's bounty is higher than Jinbe so he can join the SH with no objections.
The only problem would be with Zoro and Sanji. Don't know how would they keep the monster trio going on, since luffy and jimbei would look like the monster duo with 500 and 440 bounties while zoro and sanji have 120 and 77. Everyone would just see the new monster duo.
That's why I say Jimbei will join after the first yonkou goes down. The only way I see Zoro and Sanji get in the 400 zone is when the first yonkou goes down, since bounties for non-captains seem to go up much slower then the captain.
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I'm hoping usopp's new bounty poster has luffy in it's background.
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@uniaka:
The only problem would be with Zoro and Sanji. Don't know how would they keep the monster trio going on, since luffy and jimbei would look like the monster duo with 500 and 440 bounties while zoro and sanji have 120 and 77. Everyone would just see the new monster duo.
That's why I say Jimbei will join after the first yonkou goes down. The only way I see Zoro and Sanji get in the 400 zone is when the first yonkou goes down, since bounties for non-captains seem to go up much slower then the captain.
Jinbe issue is with Big Mom, so if he is going to join its probably after he deals with that, with that said he does have the Poneglyph and wants to give it to Luffy I assume for Robin to read so he might appear again and leave again before joining since I assume its Kaidou now not Big Mom.
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I'd like to remind everyone that we did get one famous bounty mistake (Zoro's 160 million) in the past. Also, Crocodile's bounty was initially said to be 80 millions (actual was 81) and Bellamy (195 millions) was once said to have bounty of "over 100 millions", while it would make much more sense to call it "almost 200 millions". What I mean is that even if Luffy's 500 millions wasn't mistake, it still could mean anything from 500 up to 599 (or even 599,999,999 :ninja:). We should only take stated bounty as exact value if it's seen in wanted poster or infobox. So, to put it short, 560 millions berry bounty is still a possibility (and I still hope for it to be true).
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@uniaka:
The only problem would be with Zoro and Sanji. Don't know how would they keep the monster trio going on, since luffy and jimbei would look like the monster duo with 500 and 440 bounties while zoro and sanji have 120 and 77. Everyone would just see the new monster duo.
That's why I say Jimbei will join after the first yonkou goes down. The only way I see Zoro and Sanji get in the 400 zone is when the first yonkou goes down, since bounties for non-captains seem to go up much slower then the captain.
Zoro and Sanji have plenty of time and adventures to catch up to Jinbe. Even if Jinbe joins before Big Mom is taken care of it would be no different than Robin joining with a higher bounty than Zoro's and then later still a higher bounty than Sanji's. It's easy to make up certain rules regarding any given hierarchy of the crew but in reality it's just stuff we make up and nothing more.
I fully believe new bounties for the crew will show up very soon and Zoro will graduate into the 200 millions and Sanji will graduate into the 100 millions. \For now it's no where near Jinbe's bounty but then again who's is?
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Well dressorosa happened before jimbei joined because of the bounty, of luffy and jimbei. Luffy will always have the biggest in the crew. As for the monster trio, monster trio has nothing to do with strenght, not bounty.
I predict zoro 320 to 360 million bellies. Others who knows. But i got feeling sanji and others really did some insane shit… so who knows..
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Okay so unless Oda pulls a fast one and the WG issues a bounty with a different number for Luffy than what was stated in chapter 800, I'm going to go ahead and close predictions for Luffy's bounty. I'll post a full list of who got his bounty predictions right real soon.
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I predict zoro 320 to 360 million bellies.
I really doubt that Zoro's bounty is going to triple, or nigh on triple after the events of Dressrosa.
Helping to take down a shichibukai and helping to raid one of the three great government strongholds only elicited 60M increases a piece.
How likely is it that Zoro's actions on Dressrosa are going to mandate an increase of over 3 times that amount?
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I'm I the only one who has this feeling that the swirlyhat crew the other 4 strawhats will have the highest combined bounty increase? Maybe I'm day dreaming.
But come on think about it for a minute
-Swirlyhat vs big mom ship- we don't know what happened but if they did something to the ship they will definitely get a bounty- some guy mentioned sinking orlumbus Yonta ship will make them famous, now imagine what sinking a yonko ship will do.-swirlyhat vs Kaido men, again have no idea what happened but if word gets around that 4 strawhats beat some of Kaido's men and sheepshead seem like a low ranking commander.
- Capone said he will definitely capture CC and 3 days has passed since he said that, so either he found swirlyhat crew and attacked and defeated them or swirlyhat's defeated Capone or escaped or Capone never found them in those 3 days.
-New world underworld brokers/pirates who formed alliance because they are pissed at Luffy came to Dressrosa and tried to attack Luffy. Don't forget that Barto said Bigshot pirates will come after them now, meaning there is a likely that some pirates saw the sunny strawhat ship and attacked it so swirlyhat's have to defend themselves by escaping or defeating the so called pirates within this 3 days.
Right now, Oda has so much reason and options to increase swirlyhat's bounty incredibly high and no one would question it.
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I really doubt that Zoro's bounty is going to triple or nigh on triple after the events on Dressrosa.
Helping to take down a shichibukai and helping to raid one of the three great government strongholds only elicited 60M increases a piece.
How likely is it that Zoro's actions on Dressrosa are going to mandate an increase of over 3 times that amount?
well did luffy beating doflamingo warrant his 100 mil increase? Zoro hitting the 300 is my prediction, besides aside from luffy solo role at matineford, earning him an extra 100 million to lead the supernovas in bounty, luffy has never had a bounty greater than 200 million more than zoro,.
Luffy first bounty 30, second 100 difference of 40 million over Zoro. luffy 300, zoro 120 million. When ever the crew gets a bounty for their collective action zoro has that increase not on the same standard but sufficiently high enough to let people shiver.
Its all speculation on my part, but i believe no one in the worst generation is lower than 200 million, which means zoro will have to catch up somehow. But to answer your question, not very likely based on his actions on dressorosa, but rather his strengh and perceived threat level in the eye sight of the government and the fact they are very generous in handing out huge bounties to less than respectable persons… ala cariboo, coriboo and those like him. Even a rather weakling in pekoms has a 300 plus bounty. Weak compared to luffy et al. This i based on luffy reaction to him and tamago. It was not his usual arrogant, overconfident self aroud them, he treated them akin to cariboo and not joker or the yonko or admirals, luffy facial reactions are often first indicators of whether someone is dangerous or a threat to him.
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well did luffy beating doflamingo warrant his 100 mil increase?
Eh…yeah?
His bounty went up by 70M for defeating Crocodile, and this incident is along the same lines but a bit larger in scale.
An 100M increase totally makes sense in terms of the bounty scaling that we've seen so far in the series.
Zoro hitting the 300 is my prediction, besides aside from luffy solo role at matineford, earning him an extra 100 million to lead the supernovas in bounty, luffy has never had a bounty greater than 200 million more than zoro
Why does Zoro's bounty matter in relation to Luffy's?
They're different characters doing difference things with different positions on the same crew.
The value of their bounties means little in relation to the other.
Luffy first bounty 30, second 100 difference of 40 million over Zoro. luffy 300, zoro 120 million. When ever the crew gets a bounty for their collective action zoro has that increase not on the same standard but sufficiently high enough to let people shiver.
….ok....I'm pretty sure Zoro's bounty doesn't have to triple for people to "shiver".
Killer is the only other non captain Supernova and his bounty sits at 200M, anything around there is more than sufficient.
Its all speculation on my part, but i believe no one in the worst generation is lower than 200 million, which means zoro will have to catch up somehow.
Ok, but you're predicting an additional 100M on top of that lol
But to answer your question, not very likely based on his actions on dressorosa, but rather his strengh and perceived threat level in the eye sight of the government and the fact they are very generous in handing out huge bounties to less than respectable persons… ala cariboo, coriboo and those like him.
Caribou and Coribou went around murdering people seemingly for fun dressed up as piety.
Zoro is not one of these terrible despicable people that merits an insane bounty, like the previous 2 mentioned, or Kidd.
Even a rather weakling in pekoms has a 300 plus bounty. Weak compared to luffy et al.
I'm sorry…what?
Pekoms is a yonko crewmember who finished the one fight we've seen him in with a single punch.
A fight against a super rookie, y'know, like the ones that Zoro absolutely must catch up with apparently?
This i based on luffy reaction to him and tamago. It was not his usual arrogant, overconfident self aroud them, he treated them akin to cariboo and not joker or the yonko or admirals, luffy facial reactions are often first indicators of whether someone is dangerous or a threat to him.
….riiight.
We're now basing strength on Luffy's facial expressions.
I won't even bother with this one.
So based on all of that zoro should at this stage have no less than a 300 plus bounty which is still too low but, its all a process.
You've provided 0 arguments as to why Zoro will get, or even deserves a 300M plus bounty.
Quite the opposite in fact.
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-Luffy's first bounty: 30M
-Zoro's first bounty: 60M-Luffy's second bounty: 100M
-Zoro's second bounty: 120MIf we're going by this pattern, Zoro's third bounty should surpass Luffy's third bounty.
Or he could just get a higher bounty than Killer, which is double his second bounty (From 120 to 240)Also, since Usopp's first bounty's similar to Luffy's first bounty, are we expecting his second bounty to be the same as Luffy's?
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240 seems to be just fine for Zoro, still lower than 1st commander Cabbage-Sama but higher than Barto, BellaLame and Killer.
And yes, God Usopp is going straight to 100 millions(if not higher).
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If there is a pattern I would say that Zoro's bounty only doubles, starting with Luffy's first bounty as a base. 30 to 60 to 120 and probably 240. I personally think that is plenty for Zoro.
It's Luffy that drives him to break the law and get involved with all these insane things so it's only natural that the driving force behind Zoro gets a bounty that is way higher. Zoro is certainly stronger now than Luffy was when he first got is 400 million bounty but that hardly means Zoro deserves a 420 million berry bounty. Without Luffy, Zoro would probably have little interest in the outlandish things the Straw Hats get themselves into.
Edit: sorry Iceman I didn't mean to quote you!
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I'd like to remind everyone that we did get one famous bounty mistake (Zoro's 160 million) in the past. .
I'm still not convinced that was meant to be a mistake, so much as Oda deciding against raising Zoro's bounty during the time skip by the time the volumes came out. I think it was speculated that originally Zoro did get a bounty raise during the timeskip, but then it was decided that wouldn't make sense given the Strawhats were supposed to be incognito for two years.
I think one of the big hints/allusions to it was Caribou being scared of Zoro during the journey to Fishman Island. He seemed very scared of him given he was a logia and as far as the world knew, Zoro wasn't known to have the ability to cut down logias by that point. But that was just speculation.
What is important is that Luffy's bounty is higher than Jinbe so he can join the SH with no objections.
This. Since Luffy got a bounty raise again, I guess he's higher than Jinbe at this point so that's one less obstacle for him to be onboard.
I wonder though if the other Strawhats got bounty raises and in what context will they be given, whether it's just due to the events of Dressrosa or if it's due Dressrosa/Punk Hazard. Given the events of Dressrosa, I would think Zoro/Franky/Robin/Usopp would be given bounty raises. But who knows?
Also, did Law's bounty get raised? He did leave the Shichibukai and played a major part in Dressrosa too.
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-Luffy's first bounty: 30M
-Zoro's first bounty: 60M-Luffy's second bounty: 100M
-Zoro's second bounty: 120MIf we're going by this pattern, Zoro's third bounty should surpass Luffy's third bounty.
Two instances make a straight line, not a pattern.
I really think people are putting too much emphasis on what Luffy's bounties have been in terms of predicting Zoro's, rather than thinking about what Zoro would actually be getting his bounty increased for.
Or he could just get a higher bounty than Killer, which is double his second bounty (From 120 to 240)
I expect his next bounty to be around the same value as Killer's, maybe a little lower.
Also, since Usopp's first bounty's similar to Luffy's first bounty, are we expecting his second bounty to be the same as Luffy's?
Is a 100M too much for Usopp's second bounty?Again, too much is being based on how Luffy's bounties have risen.
However, I do see Usopp getting a rather large bounty.
He'll essentially end up as the inverse of Chopper, bounty wise.
The marines perceive Chopper as a pet because of lack of intel, and as such give him a tiny bounty.
The marines will probably perceive Usopp as a real threat because of lack of intel in regards to his "God" antics and as such give him a pretty big bounty.
Classic Oda.
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Thread title should be apophenia in action.
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Well Zoro bounty is a lot higher than people expected :P, I like the updated bounties, I think they are all fine besides Fanky, I don't get why he only got that amount with all he did and I would like Oda to take Chopper bounty seriously but whatever he fixed Sanji.
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Maaan.
I was wrong about Zoro's bounty increase.
I forgot to factor in Oda's overpowering love for that character, even to the detriment of the general rules that we've seen for bounty increases.
Really interested to see what Sanji got his 100M increase for, and of course what the implications of "wanted alive" are.
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So am I really the only one annoyed at Franky bounty? Xd I dont see anyone else complaining.
The guy beat 3 officers and destroyed the factory…he should have been higher.
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So am I really the only one annoyed at Franky bounty? Xd I dont see anyone else complaining.
The guy beat 3 officers and destroyed the factory…he should have been higher.
It's specifically stated that anyone who wasn't a standout (or Sanji because he finally gets some focus) got a flat 50 million increase, and Chopper doesn't count because he's a pet. Franky didn't distinguish himself as a high-risk threat. Plus, Oda wanted a reaction between someone who wanted a higher bounty and Usopp who sure as hell doesn't. Franky was the best candidate. It's no big deal.
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So am I really the only one annoyed at Franky bounty? Xd I dont see anyone else complaining.
The guy beat 3 officers and destroyed the factory…he should have been higher.
Who actually saw that stuff happen though, from the marines or WG?
No one was around when Franky was battering Baby 5 and Buffalo, and then when people did arrive, it was Usopp and Nami who finished them off.
Then on Dressrosa, Franky defeated Pinky with the Tontattas (and Pink's fangirls?) watching.
So unfortunately, his big achievements don't seem to have really caught the eye of the WG.
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Who actually saw that stuff happen though, from the marines or WG?
No one was around when Franky was battering Baby 5 and Buffalo, and then when people did arrive, it was Usopp and Nami who finished them off.
Then on Dressrosa, Franky defeated Pinky with the Tontattas (and Pink's fangirls?) watching.
So unfortunately, his big achievements don't seem to have really caught the eye of the WG.
I don't buy it.. how does the WG ever know anything about what the strawhats are doing and who they defeat? how do they get close enough to get photos of them?
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I don't buy it.. how does the WG ever know anything about what the strawhats are doing and who they defeat?
They get reports about it from witnesses I imagine.
The system is obviously flawed, or else Chopper wouldn't have an 100b bounty in comparison to Usopps 200M.
how do they get close enough to get photos of them?
Long lens camera?
Franky didn't get a big raise because the executives he defeated weren't too important. The factory was destroyed by the dwarves.
All the executives were important.
The WG simply doesn't have all the facts.
If they knew Franky had single handedly smacked around 2 Donquixote officers at once, and then later on defeated another while running pretty low on power, I imagine he'd have gotten a bigger increase.
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200 million holy shit. I would have never guessed that. Everything else was in range of my predictions though.
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Long lens camera?
Not when you consider the locations and angles.
I think it was explained that they use a breed of den-den mushi that act as mobile surveillance cameras. They can easily spread them across the country.All the executives were important.
Agree to disagree.
The WG simply doesn't have all the facts.
If they knew Franky had single handedly smacked around 2 Donquixote officers at once, and then later on defeated another while running pretty low on power, I imagine he'd have gotten a bigger increase.
I can't see any of those officers having more than a 50m bounty. He didn't stand out more than Hajrudin or Barto.
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Not when you consider the locations and angles.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nami had posed for it.
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I find it funny that Usopp has the third highest bounty now. We have a new Monster Trio
These were my original predictions. I was a little conservative it seems (especially fort Usopp) but I got Chopper dead on right and I'll claim Franky as a win too.
Luffy: 460 Million Berri
Zoro: 220 Million Berri
Nami: 35 Million Berri
Usopp:75 Million Berri
Sanji: 120 Million Berri
Chopper: 100 Berri
Robin: 100 Million Berri
Franky: 86 Million Berri
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200 million holy shit. I would have never guessed that. Everything else was in range of my predictions though.
Hopefully we get to see more of his haki sniper skills now :happy:
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Not when you consider the locations and angles.
Then again, we have to take into account photos that at one point feature a man with a love heart for an eye.
Absolute realism in terms of photography might be pushing it.
Agree to disagree.
Fair enough.
I can't see any of those officers having more than a 50m bounty. He didn't stand out more than Hajrudin or Barto.
We don't know how much information the marines have about any of those victories, though.
The biggest bounty increases were for Luffy, Zoro and Usopp, who all performed acts that were outrageous and beyond doubt.
Luffy defeated Doffy for everyone in Dressrosa to see, Zoro carved up a mountain sized opponent right over everyone's heads and Usopp was publicly declared as the worst offender on the island by Doflamingo and branded with a 500M reward.
Everyone one else on the other hand, seems to have been tarred with the same brush and given a blanket raise for being involved in some way.
So we don't really know how much Franky's bounty would have been raised, had he performed his feats out in the open.
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So am I really the only one annoyed at Franky bounty? Xd I dont see anyone else complaining.
The guy beat 3 officers and destroyed the factory…he should have been higher.
Not annonyed but definitely surprised. Same with Zoro just the other way round.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Nami had posed for it.
It looks as if she did, just like she did with her first bounty pic - it was revealed she thought they were taking pics for the town's paper so she posed for them.
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[/hide]It could have happened on FI when Sanji's new pic seems to come from …or could be when she was on SA for the reunion This could be Nami's bounty gag= someone poses as local paper/ or compliments her looks and asked if she would pose for a pic ... viola a new bounty poster pic
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Who actually saw that stuff happen though, from the marines or WG?
No one was around when Franky was battering Baby 5 and Buffalo, and then when people did arrive, it was Usopp and Nami who finished them off.
Then on Dressrosa, Franky defeated Pinky with the Tontattas (and Pink's fangirls?) watching.
So unfortunately, his big achievements don't seem to have really caught the eye of the WG.
Meh. When I see Zoro get that kind of increase, I'm sure Oda could have made an effort.
They could have easily give him a little more for integrating such dangerous weapons as Vegpunk lasers to his arsenal and the marines where part of the ones he was fighting in front of the factory and he was also leading the tontattas when the marines were pushing the birdcage. If you are going to give a generic 50M bump even if they disappear before things got crazy, you may as well give Franky 60 or 70M.
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Sanji also surpassed Luffy and Zoro's first and second bounty, with his first and second. I'm already expecting Sanji's upcoming 3rd bounty to surpass Zoro's third, after their first win against an emperor and his forces.
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I really doubt that Zoro's bounty is going to triple, or nigh on triple after the events of Dressrosa.
Helping to take down a shichibukai and helping to raid one of the three great government strongholds only elicited 60M increases a piece.
How likely is it that Zoro's actions on Dressrosa are going to mandate an increase of over 3 times that amount?
Great prediction bro!
Underestimate Zoro and you will get burned.
People really should come to accept that. But nope, we are always gonna have people like this shortchanging him and then talking about how much he is overrated all the time.
Maybe the fact that creator of the story wanks him all the time kind of means that he is just that beastly.
