Given that Dressrosa very much parallels Alabasta, I think we will indeed get an increase.
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Am i the only one that believes that we won't have any bounty raise after Dressrosa?
Especially if someone turns to a toy and everyone forgot that he even exist :ninja:
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Especially if someone turns to a toy and everyone forgot that he even exist :ninja:
Wonder how many people is actually supporting this, the bountie issue gives it a chance of happening and would be a win-win situation for everyone.
-Dofla's butt is gonna be safe from Kaido and the Tenrys
-Law is gonna be "free" once the guy he had a grudge against had dissapeared.
-new bounties can be on "pause" until the first yonkou goes downAnd Doula is definitely gonna join the party in the future, so he can wait on toy form until the plot requires him again.
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Wonder how many people is actually supporting this, the bountie issue gives it a chance of happening and would be a win-win situation for everyone.
-Dofla's butt is gonna be safe from Kaido and the Tenrys
-Law is gonna be "free" once the guy he had a grudge against had dissapeared.
-new bounties can be on "pause" until the first yonkou goes downAnd Doula is definitely gonna join the party in the future, so he can wait on toy form until the plot requires him again.
Except Fujitora, he won't be happy.
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Uuhh?? Why not??
Fujitora just sitting there without doing any thing because he want to abolish the shichibukai system by sacrificing citizens to show how bad DD is. (I support this idea)
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Fujitora just sitting there without doing any thing because he want to abolish the shichibukai system by sacrificing citizens to show how bad DD is. (I support this idea)
If DD turns to a toy and everybody forgot about him, you know what i mean.ooohh yeaah, Issho's plans will get all fucked up, but well, there's still Croco's case and Law's alliance with Luffy that could help him to abolish the Shichi system.
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All of their crimes are against the current World Gov't though.
That means nothing. What would the world's population think if the Pirate King and his crew were not wanted?
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They seriously need a bounty increase, I don't care about Luffy though… Zoro and Sanji bounty combined is still lower than Bellamy bounty, Barto bounty, cavendish bounty, seriously it looks and is redicoulous now. Oda might aswell stop with this bounty stuff, because nor matter how I try to ignore bounties, it won't go away when the likes of Caribo keeps appearing and having bounty higher than that of 2nd & 3rd strongest Strawhats bounties combined.
Big MoM ate - 2012
CC for nakama.
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Why are bounties so important to the readers?
They seriously need a bounty increase, I don't care about Luffy though… Zoro and Sanji bounty combined is still lower than Bellamy bounty, Barto bounty, cavendish bounty, seriously it looks and is redicoulous now. Oda might aswell stop with this bounty stuff, because nor matter how I try to ignore bounties, it won't go away when the likes of Caribo keeps appearing and having bounty higher than that of 2nd & 3rd strongest Strawhats bounties combined.
It hasn't been updated and we know that those guys you mentioned doesn't stand a chance again those two (Cavendish not included).
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Why are bounties so important to the readers?
It hasn't been updated and we know that those guys you mentioned doesn't stand a chance again those two (Cavendish not included).
Yes I know all this but is just a little annoyance I get whenever those guys bounties are mentioned… I don't care about bounty but I get annoyed when Its mentioned, everyone has something that annoys them you know.
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It hasn't been updated and we know that those guys you mentioned doesn't stand a chance again those two (Cavendish not included).
Cavendish may not have a chance against Zoro or Sanji. Hakuba in the other hand, might win with his insane speed :ninja:
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Cavendish may not have a chance against Zoro or Sanji. Hakuba in the other hand, might win with his insane speed :ninja:
Don't know bro !
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Cavendish may not have a chance against Zoro or Sanji. Hakuba in the other hand, might win with his insane speed :ninja:
Funny enough, Hakuba is like a combination of zoro and Sanji. Speed based like sanji and skilled swordman like zoro. Sanji should have better chances since he should keep up with his speed, considering guys like Bartolomeo can't even see him.
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I want the crew to get updated bounties after Dressrosa but I can see it happening after they deal with an Emperor. It just seems like so many things will be happening at once, almost as if they will be taking on Big Mom and Kaidou at the same time. It will be such a long time before they or one is fully dealt with I don't know what to think.
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Luffy, Zoro, Franky and possibly Usopp will probably get bounty updates. But nothing for the other part of the crew.
But who knows, maybe Luffy and Zoro will be the only ones, like in Alabasta. -
He didn't.
And Zoro is not surpassing the likes of Apoo and Hawkins, whose bounties are in their 300 Millions despite being major players in the New World for the last 2 years (and are probably also capable of Haki).
You can't really compare a situation from one from 2 years ago.
Marines and Pacifistas have become stronger, so the standards for bounty raises should have become higher too.
What do you mean he didn't ? , I think that zoro is stronger than he's letting on you haven't seen his full
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Bounties seem too low atm. The marines were willing to spend 5 billion beli on the ope ope no mi fruit but the most expensive pirate so far is barely a 1/10th of that? I would say that none of the revealed pirates are a threat to the true world power, the Gorosei…except Robin's existence is explicitly a threat to their status quo and her bounty is pretty tiny compared to the big hitters.
In any case I would assume Luffy's bounty won't go up until he does something that seriously throws the balance of powers out of whack (like take out Kaidou).
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Luffy, Zoro, Franky and possibly Usopp will probably get bounty updates. But nothing for the other part of the crew.
But who knows, maybe Luffy and Zoro will be the only ones, like in Alabasta.Franky is gonna blow up the factory and Usopp got waaaay to much publicity, as for it goes to SanjiTeam, yeah, they all are gonna be stuck on their actual bounties for a little longer.
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In any case I would assume Luffy's bounty won't go up until he does something that seriously throws the balance of powers out of whack (like take out Kaidou).
I'm pretty sure that taking down Doula is gonna mess up everything in the NW, besides Law is hardly going back to be a shichi after all this, with only 5 Shichis and Kaido on faiiaaa! The NW is gonna be a terrible mess. I'll be enough for Luffy at least to finally get a higher bountie than Kidd.
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Franky is gonna blow up the factory and Usopp got waaaay to much publicity, as for it goes to SanjiTeam, yeah, they all are gonna be stuck on their actual bounties for a little longer.
Jesus is gonna blow up the Factory!
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The bounties after this arc will be interesting. And I suspect Oda will reveal some conventions with the next raises that'll happen.
I think Luffy will jump to 600,000,000 (for the alliance with Law, taking down Doflamingo a Warlord/World Noble, and for the very visible defeat of Don Chinjao) But now that I think about it, he was in disguise, so he might not get credit for that.
Zoro's bounty seems to double. (From 60,000,000 to 120,000,000 the first time) so I think this second time he'll go to 320,000,000 for challenging and surviving Fujitora and taking down Pica.
Usopp's bounty I believe mimics Luffy's former bounties, so I think his next bounty will be 100,000,000 for the whole "God Usopp" thing. He's positioning himself as a leader to a bunch of notorious outlaws. Similar to Buggy.
Robin and Franky I haven't noticed a raising convention yet. But I suspect that Robin will always get small conservative raises because of her very conservative personality.
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What do you mean he didn't ? , I think that zoro is stronger than he's letting on you haven't seen his full
Potential and ability yet, and the pacifistas have not gotten stronger they have stayed the same.Oda didn't say anything about Zoro being at Luffy's level.
Sentomaru said that the Pacifistas Zoro and Sanji defeated were outdated models.
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Funny enough, Hakuba is like a combination of zoro and Sanji. Speed based like sanji and skilled swordman like zoro. Sanji should have better chances since he should keep up with his speed, considering guys like Bartolomeo can't even see him.
I don't know how Sanji is speed-based. That's Brook, whose fighting style is the closest to Hakuba's.
Sanji is agile, but that's a different story.
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besides Law is hardly going back to be a shichi after all this
Do you think so? I think that Oda keeping him around as a tentative Warlord in-universe kinda points to the opposite, or else there would be no reason to even call him tentative in the first place as Fujitora should have already revoked the title.
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Do you think so? I think that Oda keeping him around as a tentative Warlord in-universe kinda points to the opposite, or else there would be no reason to even call him tentative in the first place as Fujitora should have already revoked the title.
I think that was just to clarify his current situation as his relation with Luffy wasn't clear enough for the marines, his title should be revoked just as Issho said it is, besides the WG fucked him a lot more than Doula did, and he only used his "Shichi" title to get in PH, Soo unless he wants to use the title for something else he should be leaving the organization as this arc ends.
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Defeating one of the best warlords out there, guy got introduced many years ago, should give luffy a new bounty, but I expect it to be in the 500 m. zone.
Zoro for defeating one of Dolfamingo's underlings is not a must to update his bounty.
Kidnapping second best scientist in the world could most likely give Sunny team a bounty update, and who knows what other event they have at this point.
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Oda said they both were on the same level of strength, and sentoru said the pacifistas power has not changed so it was the same ones that law and kid struggled agains.
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Defeating one of the best warlords out there, guy got introduced many years ago, should give luffy a new bounty, but I expect it to be in the 500 m. zone.
Zoro for defeating one of Dolfamingo's underlings is not a must to update his bounty.
Kidnapping second best scientist in the world could most likely give Sunny team a bounty update, and who knows what other event they have at this point.
Luffy getting 550mln just like Ace had would have something to it I guess.
Zoro should be considered as at least 280mln now I would say after Fujitora will report that he was able to put up a fight against him(they clashed twice) and that he taken out somebody as strong as Pica.
For my favourite Strawhat Sanji its hard to tell what will be his bounty but I would guess it all depends on what he will do to Big Moms ship and if there will be anybody to witness it from Marines. Fujitora ordered some backup I think or I am mistaken? They can very well cross roads with Sunny and Big Mom ship.
I would say that he should be considered as at least 200mln bounty next update on those that crew gets.God Ussop getting 100mln has a good sound to it.
Franky should have Supernova-like bounty of 180mln.
Rest of Strawhats - dunno and have no idea on them really..
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I think that was just to clarify his current situation as his relation with Luffy wasn't clear enough for the marines, his title should be revoked just as Issho said it is, besides the WG fucked him a lot more than Doula did, and he only used his "Shichi" title to get in PH, Soo unless he wants to use the title for something else he should be leaving the organization as this arc ends.
This is not about the Marines, but the readers themselves.
We have no reason to think Law is still a Warlord as we saw his title being revoked, but Oda still refers to him as a (tentative) one through a chapter title and volumes.
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=sabinis;3392699]Luffy getting 550mln just like Ace had would have something to it I guess.Zoro should be considered as at least 280mln now I would say after Fujitora will report that he was able to put up a fight against him(they clashed twice) and that he taken out somebody as strong as Pica.
For my favourite Strawhat Sanji its hard to tell what will be his bounty but I would guess it all depends on what he will do to Big Moms ship and if there will be anybody to witness it from Marines. Fujitora ordered some backup I think or I am mistaken? They can very well cross roads with Sunny and Big Mom ship.
I would say that he should be considered as at least 200mln bounty next update on those that crew gets.God Ussop getting 100mln has a good sound to it.
Franky should have Supernova-like bounty of 180mln.
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]Well fujitora and zoro din't have much of a fight. 1 attack of zoro was going for Doflamingo, fujitora defended him and send zoro in a hole(epic moment), then fujitora blocked a second attack from zoro. Don't think it's enough for the bounty raise.
Defeating pica could give a zoro a bounty, but again, depends how much it counts that for the marines.
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[[URL="http://forums.arlongpark.net/"]QUOTEhttp://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png=sabinis;3392699]Luffy getting 550mln just like Ace had would have something to it I guess.
Zoro should be considered as at least 280mln now I would say after Fujitora will report that he was able to put up a fight against him(they clashed twice) and that he taken out somebody as strong as Pica.
For my favourite Strawhat Sanji its hard to tell what will be his bounty but I would guess it all depends on what he will do to Big Moms ship and if there will be anybody to witness it from Marines. Fujitora ordered some backup I think or I am mistaken? They can very well cross roads with Sunny and Big Mom ship.
I would say that he should be considered as at least 200mln bounty next update on those that crew gets.God Ussop getting 100mln has a good sound to it.
Franky should have Supernova-like bounty of 180mln.
Rest of Strawhats - dunno and have no idea on them really..[/[URL="http://forums.arlongpark.net/"]QUOTEhttp://cdncache1-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png]
Well fujitora and zoro din't have much of a fight. 1 attack of zoro was going for Doflamingo, fujitora defended him and send zoro in a hole(epic moment), then fujitora blocked a second attack from zoro. Don't think it's enough for the bounty raise.
Defeating pica could give a zoro a bounty, but again, depends how much it counts that for the marines.
I just think that if Marines will know that Strawhats grown enough for one of them to have short exchange with admiral and be almost unscathed they will acknowledge Zoro as really dangerous pirate.
Pica is very likely on Par with pirates like Law I would say. So something around Yonko commander I would say.
Doffy sended his right hand man after Law being sure he can beat him so..
Also Smoker probably reported everything about Vergo being traitor to higher ups as he also reported that Law is going for Green Bit. Then Marines would know that Sanji sent flying their G5 Base Commander Vergo.
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I just think that if Marines will know that Strawhats grown enough for one of them to have short exchange with admiral and be almost unscathed they will acknowledge Zoro as really dangerous pirate.
Pica is very likely on Par with pirates like Law I would say. So something around Yonko commander I would say.
Doffy sended his right hand man after Law being sure he can beat him so..
Also Smoker probably reported everything about Vergo being traitor to higher ups as he also reported that Law is going for Green Bit. Then Marines would know that Sanji sent flying their G5 Base Commander Vergo.
So they should also acknowledge Sanji as big danger if he can take on Base Commander caliber marine in a fight.Where is the like button when you need it?
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Zoro should be considered as at least 280mln now I would say after Fujitora will report that he was able to put up a fight against him(they clashed twice) and that he taken out somebody as strong as Pica.
Fuji put Zoro down a hole and took an attack from him that did zero lasting damage, I would hardly call it putting up a fight.
The way that Sabo clashed with Fuji for a bit until he REALLY turned it on, that's putting up a fight.
Taking down one of the most important subordinates of a notorious warlord will certainly earn Zoro an increase though.
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Pica is very likely on Par with pirates like Law I would say. So something around Yonko commander I would say.
Doffy sended his right hand man after Law being sure he can beat him so..Law one-shotted Vergo, who shared the same rank as Pica though.
I'd bet on the 4 seats all being roughly as tough as each other, in their own ways.
I'd say that Doffy himself is more akin to a Yonko commander than one of his subordinates.
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I just think that if Marines will know that Strawhats grown enough for one of them to have short exchange with admiral and be almost unscathed they will acknowledge Zoro as really dangerous pirate.
Pica is very likely on Par with pirates like Law I would say. So something around Yonko commander I would say.
Doffy sended his right hand man after Law being sure he can beat him so..
Also Smoker probably reported everything about Vergo being traitor to higher ups as he also reported that Law is going for Green Bit. Then Marines would know that Sanji sent flying their G5 Base Commander Vergo.
So they should also acknowledge Sanji as big danger if he can take on Base Commander caliber marine in a fight.I think you have to do more than just sending people fly or not getting completely wrecked by a Warlord/Admiral in order to have a bounty rise.
Kicking a Vice-Admiral in the head means little to nothing if you don't win in the end. It's not an achievement. This is like that post where somebody suggested Sanji should get a raise because Doula Mongo didn't destroy him too much.
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Fuji put Zoro down a hole and took an attack from him that did zero lasting damage, I would hardly call it putting up a fight.
The way that Sabo clashed with Fuji for a bit until he REALLY turned it on, that's putting up a fight.
Taking down one of the most important subordinates of a notorious warlord will certainly earn Zoro an increase though.
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Law one-shotted Vergo, who shared the same rank as Pica though.
I'd bet on the 4 seats all being roughly as tough as each other, in their own ways.
I'd say that Doffy himself is more akin to a Yonko commander than one of his subordinates.
Doflamingo for me is somebody around as strong as Marco. I see him being above Jozu for sure but not stronger than Marco. Bit below Admiral when it comes to combat but as somebody with pretty high chances of beating one.. still with lets say Admiral having like 70-30 ratio. But Pica, Diamante, Trebol being at least around as strong as some of lesser Whitebeard commanders. Vergo being one that I cant help but see as stronger than rest of seats and somebody who could be comparable to Whitebeard top brass of commanders like I would say Vista. Thats how I see it atm and it might change as story goes on.
Zoro did clash with Fujitora who thought he will just press him down and that would be it. Also there was short exchange between Zoro and Fujitora moment after Luffy almost gotten hit by Dell-Mach-Pin attack. Sure that Fujitora was serious pretty much once when he want against Sabo with vertical gravitation but still simply being able to overpower that Gravitation Press and still manage to send a slash with quite some power behind it hints that Zoro is no pushover himself as well and I do think that Admiral giving raport should mention it and it should affect "level of danger" that bounty reflects.
Also I would not overuse "Law one-shotted Vergo" thing as we also had buffed up Lao G being one-shotted by powered up Sai kick. Sai was fighting evenly with Baby 5 while Ideo who also fought with Sai had lost to Dellinger who was hinted to be least strong of Fighters group, where that Lao G we second only to Diamante. So what I want to say is that considerably weaker person beaten stronger one because he rushed blindly- Vergo did same thing as Lao G and I do believe Doflamingos words on Vergo being physically stronger fighter than Law. If not for Laws ability Vergo could beat up Law I think. Flashy cutting moutain doesnt mean that some big margin was between Law and Vergo.
Sorry for making this post long and hard to read but thats what I think
I think you have to do more than just sending people fly or not getting completely wrecked by a Warlord/Admiral in order to have a bounty rise.
Kicking a Vice-Admiral in the head means little to nothing if you don't win in the end. It's not an achievement. This is like that post where somebody suggested Sanji should get a raise because Doula Mongo didn't destroy him too much.
Kick in head was one thing. After it when Sanji and Vergo had short echange Sanji sent Vergo flying once again, you seem to have forgotten about it- at that moment and for that moment(later on in that arc) he was praised by G5 marines.
And dont compare it to Sanji getting rise for not getting completely destroyed argument- my argument is easily more logical, what I described really can affect Sanjis bounty.
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If not for Laws ability Vergo could beat up Law I think.
You know that this doesn't really mean anything right? Law will always have that ability whether you like it or not.
It's like saying that "if Luffy didn't have Gear 2nd/3rd, he wouldn't have beaten Lucci". It's pointless and doesn't help an argument. Luffy beat Lucci. End of story.
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Kick in head was one thing. After it when Sanji and Vergo had short echange Sanji sent Vergo flying once again, you seem to have forgotten about it- at that moment and for that moment(later on in that arc) he was praised by G5 marines.
And dont compare it to Sanji getting rise for not getting completely destroyed argument- my argument is easily more logical, what I described really can affect Sanjis bounty.
The G-5 Marines didn't know that was Vergo. They thought that was an impostor.
I'm just saying that Sanji would have to do way more than just kick someone in the face in order to get a bounty raise (because how would you know the kick was effective in the first place? Are you going to raise somebody's bounty by 10 Million because the kick looked strong?). Landing a kick, imo, is not enough to warrant a bounty raise, no matter the opponent.
You have to prove that you're stronger than the person you attacked in order to be considered a threat and have a raise accordingly, and that means winning.
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Yeah, that thing about removing characters df's when the argument doesn't help is pretty silly, moslty because df's are almost everyone's first source of might, except for some member of CP9, Lucci and Kaku kicked butts without their df's, as for the rest, Doula is alwaya gonna be that hax because of the same reasons Law is.
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You know that this doesn't really mean anything right? Law will always have that ability whether you like it or not.
It's like saying that "if Luffy didn't have Gear 2nd/3rd, he wouldn't have beaten Lucci". It's pointless and doesn't help an argument. Luffy beat Lucci. End of story.
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The G-5 Marines didn't know that was Vergo. They thought that was an impostor.
I'm just saying that Sanji would have to do way more than just kick someone in the face in order to get a bounty raise (because how would you know the kick was effective in the first place? Are you going to raise somebody's bounty by 10 Million because the kick looked strong?). Landing a kick, imo, is not enough to warrant a bounty raise, no matter the opponent.
You have to prove that you're stronger than the person you attacked in order to be considered a threat and have a raise accordingly, and that means winning.
Why you write in manner like I might be an idiot ???
As for Laws ability I mean that without extreme force or cutting ability it looks like Vergo cannot be heavily damaged.
Throw against him somebody who doesnt have devil fruit that is said to be overpowered even by Oda and you will get my point.
Beside simplyfying some things doesnt help you get more credit in discussion really.G5 marines didnt knew it was real Vergo but Smoker and them sure gotten back to their base and Smoker told Akainu what he knew - Law going to Green Bit - so I guessed that Marines in report also mentioned that Black Leg fought with "fake" Vergo and Smoker knew Vergo was rat, most likely didnt kept it secret at all because why really.
So higher ups gotten to know that Sanji was fighting Vergo evenly- 90% certain I would say.
Yeah, that thing about removing characters df's when the argument doesn't help is pretty silly, moslty because df's are almost everyone's first source of might, except for some member of CP9, Lucci and Kaku kicked butts without their df's, as for the rest, Doula is alwaya gonna be that hax because of the same reasons Law is.
Lucci and Kaku needed their devil fruits to fight evenly with Strawhats and they still did lost to them in the end.
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But df's weren't their first source of might. As Laws and Doffys are. Besides Vergo obviously wins against not so overpowered characters that's pretty logic, still no reason at all for Sanji to get a higher bountie, at least not for now.
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marines didnt knew it was real Vergo but Smoker and them sure gotten back to their base and Smoker told Akainu what he knew - Law going to Green Bit - so I guessed that Marines in report also mentioned that Black Leg fought with "fake" Vergo and Smoker knew Vergo was rat, most likely didnt kept it secret at all because why really.
So higher ups gotten to know that Sanji was fighting Vergo evenly- 90% certain I would say.
But they won't raise Sanji's bounty for having a short fight with Vergo. I really doubt a report would mention that Sanji was fighting Vergo "equally" as if the nature of the fight was relevant to the report (hell, would they even mention the fight at all? Or the fact that a pirate saved them? At best, they would say there was a short fight between both characters that was interrupted).
It's like saying that they should raise Zoro's bounty because he was able to clash swords with an Admiral. Those aren't achievements, but normal battle details. Just because Sanji was able to defend against Vergo, it doesn't mean that's worthy of a raise. If he had managed to defeat Vergo, that would be another story, because that would be enough proof that Sanji could beat a Vice-Admiral.
Really, bounties should be earned through achievements (pirate X defeated marine captain Y), not details (pirate X was able to block marine captain Y's special move Z with a sword, but the fight was suddenly interrupted by W), because those details barely prove a thing.
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But they won't raise Sanji's bounty for having a short fight with Vergo. I really doubt a report would mention that Sanji was fighting Vergo "equally" as if the nature of the fight was relevant to the report (hell, would they even mention the fight at all? Or the fact that a pirate saved them?). If Smoker was responsible for the report, how does he know Sanji was involved?
It's like saying that they should raise Zoro's bounty because he was able to clash swords with an Admiral. Those aren't achievements, but normal battle details. Just because Sanji was able to defend against Vergo, it doesn't mean that's worthy of a raise. If he had managed to defeat Vergo, that would be another story.
I dont know if you are serious with question on Smoker being responsible for raport..
Its his raport + his crew gives relation on what happened to them, otherwise it would be only Smokers pov and I do think that any normal rapot in this situation would consider all information in detail from all marines that were on Punk Hazard and can tell what happened.
You again simplify stuff.. Only winner matters for marines or that one of Strawhats, not even strongest now can stop NW Base Commander ?
Pointless argument really because you try hard to nitpick without much thinking on your own here. Or maybe not to nitpick but keep your opinion by ignoring what I wrote or more simply choosing what you think over how I see things possibly happening.Also lol at "normal battle details" thing, okay, whatever you prefer to think its fine by me, kind of lost interest in trying to discuss this subject.
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I dont know if you are serious with question on Smoker being responsible for raport..
Its his raport + his crew gives relation on what happened to them, otherwise it would be only Smokers pov and I do think that any normal rapot in this situation would consider all information in detail from all marines that were on Punk Hazard and can tell what happened.
You again simplify stuff.. Only winner matters for marines or that one of Strawhats, not even strongest now can stop NW Base Commander ?
Pointless argument really because you try hard to nitpick without much thinking on your own here. Or maybe not to nitpick but keep your opinion by ignoring what I wrote or more simply choosing what you think over how I see things possibly happening.Also lol at "normal battle details" thing, okay, whatever you prefer to think its fine by me, kind of lost interest in trying to discuss this subject.
No, all I'm saying is that bounties should be earned through achievements. That's it. You're putting too much importance into details.
Basically, you're expecting Oda himself to be nitpicky about his own work when he eventually updates the bounties.
Sanji vs. Vergo was so short and really didn't prove anything because neither character went all out and there was no conclusion. With that in mind, why should Sanji get a bounty raise for that?
I've edited the previous post.
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No, all I'm saying is that bounties should be earned through achievements. That's it. You're putting too much importance into details.
Sanji vs. Vergo was so short and really didn't prove anything because neither character went all out and there was no conclusion. With that in mind, why should Sanji get a bounty raise for that?
I've edited the previous post.
Based on what did Zoro gotten his rise of after Ennies Lobby ? For beating Kaku.
So if bounty is also measured by who Pirate fought it might not be as simple as "he won we have to raise his bounty".
Just fact that somebody can fight with Vice Admiral that is Base Commander means that he is big danger for any lower marine forces and he might be very hard to capture.
I know that Sanji vs Vergo was not decisive at all with slight edge seemingly being on Vergo side because of Sanjis lack of experience and reckless blocking but at same time it was something pretty big as I dont think that Marines or also other people might think that 77mln bounty head dissapears for two years and after showing up can match New World Base Commander in Fight. G5 marines and Tashigi was amazed at how strong Sanji and Zoro were.Tashigi even wondered looking at Zoro where Strawhats were for those 2 years to become that strong. To me it means that bounty can be raised also based on fighting, not only won fight like Zoro thanks to Kaku defeat counted as Supernova.I dont think that decisions on bounty are based only on winning.
For example dont you think that if Sabo has bounty he should get a raise of it after he had a fight with Fujitora and after Fujitoras report will get to higher ups and decision on bounty will be made? Just based on fact that he fought Admiral, even without winning.Really, bounties should be earned through achievements (pirate X defeated marine captain Y), not details (pirate X was able to block marine captain Y's special move Z with a sword, but the fight was suddenly interrupted by W), because those details barely prove a thing.
I never even implied such thing. I mean that rise should be given if somebody who has 77mln sends VA that is New World Base Commander flying twice. I dont think that those G5 grunts seen anything beside those 2 fighting like equals, they didnt had any idea on Sanjis crack and he was not visibly wounded at all after fighting with V. That only means he is hella strong in their eyes. That should be written in report imo and that could be one of reasons for rising a bounty, part of entire raise.
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@The:
Where is the like button when you need it?
It would be nice addition I guess :ninja:
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I think Sanji VS Vergo would at the very least be taken into consideration when bounties get updated. One shotting a Pacifista right in front of Sentamaru might do more for Sanji and Zoro than anything else they've done so far since the skip. Though Sanji's bout with Vergo was much more significant in duration than what Zoro did with Fuji.
When ever they get their bounty raises these little incidents that happened right in front of the marines won't be the only reason for an increase but they could certainly add to what ever major accomplishment comes in the future.
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Based on what did Zoro gotten his rise of after Ennies Lobby ? For beating Kaku.
Kaku was the 2nd strongest CP9 member even before getting his DF.
Also, Zoro did more than defeat Kaku. He also defeated T-Bone, as well as several other Marine Captains alongside the other Straw Hats (Sanji defeated even more people such as Wanze, Jerry and Jabra, which might explain why his raise was higher than Zoro's).
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Kaku was the 2nd strongest CP9 member even before getting his DF.
Also, Zoro did more than defeat Kaku. He also defeated T-Bone, as well as several other Marine Captains alongside the other Straw Hats (Sanji defeated even more people such as Wanze, Jerry and Jabra, which might explain why his raise was higher than Zoro's).
That would be logical I agree.
RomanceDown also has fair point that I agree with, purely put what I wanted to say.
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Whatever Sanji gets I don't think he should surpass Robin, at least not yet. He may be stronger, but she's much more dangerous.
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@Hamburger:
Whatever Sanji gets I don't think he should surpass Robin, at least not yet. He may be stronger, but she's much more dangerous.
Not getting, why exactly this line of thinking would seemingly specifically apply to Sanji or even others?
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@Hamburger:
Whatever Sanji gets I don't think he should surpass Robin, at least not yet. He may be stronger, but she's much more dangerous.
Please, Sanji should surpass robin even Pre TS, and be more close to zoro and luffy in bounty, talk about post TS.
You just can't keep a guy like sanji, that can take on strong guys in the new world, marines like vergo, warlords like doflmingo, yonkou pirates like pekoms and tamago with a lame 77 mil bounty.
Unless marines and WG want to wake up with super strong pirates knocking at their door and they din't even know about them or what it hit them.
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Bartolomeo might get a bounty raise, for trashing a VA.
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@uniaka:
Please, Sanji should surpass robin even Pre TS, and be more close to zoro and luffy in bounty, talk about post TS.
You just can't keep a guy like sanji, that can take on strong guys in the new world, marines like vergo, warlords like doflmingo, yonkou pirates like pekoms and tamago with a lame 77 mil bounty.
Unless marines and WG want to wake up with super strong pirates knocking at their door and they din't even know about them or what it hit them.
There are different types of threats and Robin is one of the biggest ones out there. I can't never see Sanji surpassing her and I can somehow see her surpassing Zoro's.
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Not getting, why exactly this line of thinking would seemingly specifically apply to Sanji or even others?
Because they as individual are not as dangerous as her.
