Funny, most chapter threads would have 10 pages by now.
@DEE:
Sabo agains't Fujitora & 2 admirals + too many marines is just insane!!!!!!
Admirals? Where? I just see one.
Chapter 750: "The State of War"
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Funny, most chapter threads would have 10 pages by now.
Admirals? Where? I just see one.
I take it he means 2 vice admirals ie Maynard and Bastille.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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@dwo:
What if Sabo didnt eat a the real devilfruit but an artificial one? And what if Dofla can mind control the ones which eat the artificial devilfruits?
Great chapter, fights begin, time for flashbacks.
Colour spread was awesome. Great comeback of Oda.
That is so f*ckin' possible !! Because Momonsuke heard a shady voice and we saw Dofla's shadow callin' for him (when they arrived to the island)
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The two VAs won't interfere if he's fighting Issho.
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@DEE:
That is so f*ckin' possible !! Because Momonsuke heard a shady voice and we saw Dofla's shadow callin' for him (when they arrived to the island)
Thats the reason why, Doflamingo sent the art art fruit user to kiddnap the litte boy.It's not possible because artificial DF are zoans.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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Funny, most chapter threads would have 10 pages by now.
Admirals? Where? I just see one.
It's a mistake, I meant, 2 vice-admirals
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How sweet, wake up and the chapter is there.
Still not much happening. It's about time the set ups end and we get some raw fighting.
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_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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I was kinda hoping we'd figure out whats up with Momo and Doffy, but seeing as how the Sunny's dealing with Big Mom/heading to Zo i doubt we'll find out any time soon
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Seems sabo's tooth grew back in the past years
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The only ones we've seen or heard about so far are zoans.
Not that I agree with any theory or whatever, I'm just saying it's not been stated that there's no chance of an artificial Logia or Paramecia.
smiles are difinitely artifical ZOANS,by definition given by Caesar himself
and he is so damn important because he is the ony one capable of making artificial devil fruitsso i think that for the moment,we can rule out the existence of a artificial rogia.
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smiles are difinitely artifical ZOANS,by definition given by Caesar himself
and he is so damn important because he is the ony one capable of making artificial devil fruitsso i think that for the moment,we can rule out the existence of a artificial rogia.
also,we saw the fruit sabo ate,and he had none of the imperfection that smile haveWell, there's always Vegapunk.
I'm just saying that because all we've heard of is Zoan smiles, doesn't mean it's impossible to create an artifical logia/paramecia.
Yeah, I don't think Sabo ate a SMILE lol they seem pretty distinctive in appearance for one thing.
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The only ones we've seen or heard about so far are zoans.
Not that I agree with any theory or whatever, I'm just saying it's not been stated that there's no chance of an artificial Logia or Paramecia.
Yes, that is correct. But as far as Mingo and his world is concern, he only have access to SMILES which are artificial DF with Zoan powers.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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Man come to think of it didnt Doffy mention an Age of Smiles or something to Disco after Sabaody? Doffys had this SMILE thing in the works for a while it seems. Unless he wasnt referring to the SMILES, but i think he was.
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Is mangastream version out yet? They tend to have clearer scans. Honestly, I miss Tobi. His scans are the best.
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Man come to think of it didnt Doffy mention an Age of Smiles or something to Disco after Sabaody? Doffys had this SMILE thing in the works for a while it seems. Unless he wasnt referring to the SMILES, but i think he was.
yeah,the artifical fruits was the smile he was talking about,since he used the english word at the time.
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Man come to think of it didnt Doffy mention an Age of Smiles or something to Disco after Sabaody? Doffys had this SMILE thing in the works for a while it seems. Unless he wasnt referring to the SMILES, but i think he was.
He said something along the lines of "Slavery is out, Smiles are in".
Obviously we didn't really get what he meant at the time lol
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We've been through this before.
Again, you're supposed to question Fujitora! This scene and this other scene are a way Oda's addressing these issues, voiced from Vice Admiral marines that want to impart justice to the one behind everything (Dofla). When Fuji says "nope, SH's and Law, and you will obey what I say (cause I'm a fucking Admiral and you're not)", we're not supposed to think -look at this Fuji fella, he's so righteous!; we're probably supposed to think - fuck you, Fuji! get your ass up there and kill the flamingo!
The 746 scene I get your point, but the 747 scene…not so much. When Fujitora says "Deposing Warlords has been tried, doesn't work", and "is the World government the same as god?" that reads as if Fujitora not only feels capturing Doflamingo is meaningless (umm no, it would stop the bloodshed at the very least?), and that the world. government...has "no right to play God" and change the islands fate? So they'll just maintain the mass-murdering status quo? Fujitora even says this week that they wanted to block the Coliseum fighters from charging the palace...and that group includes non-pirates and WG royalty. And now, when Violet speaks, we get imagery of Fujitoras head next to Doflamingos head, accompanied by clarification that "these guys are the problem. We can't trust the World Government (and by extension, Fujitora).
Fujitora has somehow been slotted into the "unreliable, politically motivated law enforcer" role, and while Oda indeed might make a tournaround later, Fujitora standing by for mass civilian casualties until then will be incredibly hard to justify.
All this would make immensely more sense if Fujitora was a Warlod system supporter, and a guy adhering 100% to orders with not two shits to give about civilians casualties.
Unfortunately, its the opposite.Why is it not like this? Well, it can be because he's a man of his word and will keep it no matter what;
That would make him exceptionally dumb,much dumber than he's been presented as
because he doesn't want to lose points with the WG right before the Reverie, the place where he probably wants to expose his idea (¿alongside Sakazuki? they seem to be on good terms. . .) of destroying the Shichibukai system;
That would make him exceptionally callous with civilian life, much more than he's made out to be.
or, as Aohige theorized (and I think he was on to something), Fuji might want to provoke the citizens themselves to revolt against Dofla, and then MAYBE he'll help them. As we've seen, many of the citizens fell for the Birdcage's main purpose, even if against their wills, cause they're terrified of Dofla and think there's an "easy" way out of this mess without being wiped out. Maybe, and again, keyword, MAYBE Fujitora wants these citizens to disregard their own selves and fight for their rights.
That would again be extremely callous for how the "I wanna prevent civilian casualties" Admiral has been presented. And the main tragedy of Dressrosa is people being involuntarily used as puppets to kill their friends and loved ones. its a bit much to ask them to man up and revolt.
Again, we've discussed this before, but bottom line is: no matter how satisfying it might be in the end, the thing is, Fuji's motives should still need clarifying and Oda has been very vague about them all along the arc. That said clarification ends up being option A - he just kept his promise till the end, then, yeah, rage to your heart's content! But I think Oda at last deserves one last chance to solve something that clearly points towards still being unresolved.
Fair enough. Barring further developments I'll bide my time, I just couldn't help being flabbergasted all over again by Violets speech about the marines, and them not simply Star Hunting, but being a veritable roadblock to Doflamingos palace. I guess as their cooperativity with Doflamingo continues to be showcased, I just find it harder and harder to believe in any sort of satisfying justification.–--------
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Damn, fucking awesome cover..liked it more than the chapter
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yeah,the artifical fruits was the smile he was talking about,since he used the english word at the time.
Oh, really? Man I love how Oda mentions stuff like this before they become relevant. Like how we hear about the Blackbeard Pirates ransacking Drum, and their silhouettes (well at least Augur's) match their appearances.
He said something along the lines of "Slavery is out, Smiles are in".
Obviously we didn't really get what he meant at the time lol
Yeah at first I thought he was referring to his flag, maybe? Besides Law he was the only other one who used a Jolly Roger like that.
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Seriously, what's with the wild key, voila brought out of nowhere..
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Yeah at first I thought he was referring to his flag, maybe? Besides Law he was the only other one who used a Jolly Roger like that.
Yeah, I think that was the only thing we could really link it to at the time.
Or that maybe he was just being a nice guy and saying pffft slavery. Let's all just be happy.
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@zeff:
Seriously, what's with the wild key, voila brought out of nowhere..
She used her ability to find it…
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@zeff:
Seriously, what's with the wild key, voila brought out of nowhere..
you mean the girl that can see everything in a 4000km radius?
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@zeff:
Seriously, what's with the wild key, voila brought out of nowhere..
Her boobs must have caught it.
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Good to see Oda back, and with a solid color page.
Chapter had its few good moments, prob was expecting more about the brother, but this was Oda standard, which is always good.
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And the main tragedy of Dressrosa is people being involuntarily used as puppets to kill their friends and loved ones. its a bit much to ask them to man up and revolt.
Actually, this I can see happening. The Dressrosa citizens have already been through this once with King Riku 10 years back. Now they know their loved ones were turned into toys by Doffy, and that Doffy was the one responsible for both what's happening now and what happened 10 years ago with Riku. That's 3 things they have to be mad at him towards, and I could see them actually revolting over it. As far as the matter of if they will or not, I don't know.
@Daz:
Fair enough. Barring further developments I'll bide my time, I just couldn't help being flabbergasted all over again by Violets speech about the marines, and them not simply Star Hunting, but being a veritable roadblock to Doflamingos palace. I guess as their cooperativity with Doflamingo continues to be showcased, I just find it harder and harder to believe in any sort of satisfying justification.
We don't really know about Fujitora and what his real goals are, except he wants to abolish the Warlord system. I think the image just lumped him there because she was talking about how they can't rely on the Marines. He's an admiral, therefore he's the highest position of authority at Dressrosa in regards to the marines, and can be seen as symbolic of their presence on Dressrosa. Fujitora has been, even frustratingly, ambiguous this whole arc. He seems to have his convictions set, though, and I don't think they're strictly along the lines of helping out Doffy for some arbitrary reason like they're marines and he's a Shichibukai.
This is really the only time we've had an admiral as part of the arc for the entirety of the arc, and he's kind of done nothing except be in the background. In both Long Ring Long Land and in Sabaody, when an admiral showed up it meant things were getting super serious, and usually the crew was in serious danger. However, both of those times the admiral's goals and motivations were pretty clear. Aokiji wanted to check up on Robin, and possibly take her out/see how far the SH's would go to protect her. With Kizaru, it was cause Luffy hit the CD and an admiral had to be summoned as a response. Kizaru just figured he'd take out a few notorious pirates along the way.
If you recall back in Chapter 700 when Dressrosa started, Brannew talks about expelling Law from the Shichibukai. Akainu tells the Marines they won't let Strawhat and Law do as they please, and that he's already sent Fujitora. So we know what he was sent there for, probably, and while he is gunning for Law/Luffy, you get the sense that it's not the only thing on his agenda. Maybe not even the top priority even. I'm sure by arc's end we'll see what Fujitora's really up to, because things are already out of the usual with him just kind of…being there on the island, and not really doing too much of anything. He clearly has his convictions set already, we just have to wait a little to see where they lead.
Or that maybe he was just being a nice guy and saying pffft slavery. Let's all just be happy.
Doffy's so nice to his crew all the time, and before Dressrosa we always saw him with a smile on his face. Doffy's the most misunderstood villain in One Piece. He wasn't trying to kill Bellamy back on Jaya! He was scolding him like any good father would do. Scolding him. With Sarkies' knife.
At least he didn't flay him Ramsay-style! (Though that's probably something more along the lines of what Kid would do)
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you mean the girl that can see everything in a 4000km radius?
Unless her arms can also stretch that far, seeing it doesn't equal to having it.
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Epic Sabo is epic
And lol. Did Franky just beamed the city? xD
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Unless her arms can also stretch that far, seeing it doesn't equal to having it.
they already were on the plateau,were dofla's palace was,and where probably the key still was,on the ground somewhere in the huge plateau
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Hahaha sabo gonna destroy fujitora, even eith help of bastille , sabo will own both
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Doffy's so nice to his crew all the time, and before Dressrosa we always saw him with a smile on his face. Doffy's the most misunderstood villain in One Piece. He wasn't trying to kill Bellamy back on Jaya! He was scolding him like any good father would do. Scolding him. With Sarkies' knife.
At least he didn't flay him Ramsay-style! (Though that's probably something more along the lines of what Kid would do)
Yeah man lol we've seen Kid enjoy a spot of crucifixion, I imagine he'd be partial to some flaying as well.
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@Daz:
The 746 scene I get your point, but the 747 scene…not so much. When Fujitora says "Deposing Warlords has been tried, doesn't work", and "is the World government the same as god?" that reads as if Fujitora not only feels capturing Doflamingo is meaningless (umm no, it would stop the bloodshed at the very least?), and that the world. government...has "no right to play God" and change the islands fate? So they'll just maintain the mass-murdering status quo? Fujitora even says this week that they wanted to block the Coliseum fighters from charging the palace...and that group includes non-pirates and WG royalty. And now, when Violet speaks, we get imagery of Fujitoras head next to Doflamingos head, accompanied by clarification that "these guys are the problem. We can't trust the World Government (and by extension, Fujitora).
He's not saying the WG has no right to play god to change the islands fate, the "is the World government the same as god?" is to mean that is the WG rule absolute and for a greater good regardless of if he can see the full scope of how a bad event may turn out. The events of DR are directly because the world government stepped in and allowed Doffa to remain king and warlord. fuji is questioning whether or not he should go against doffa's plan thats clearly wrong, or blindly follow and support the WG's decisions as some believe one should feel in relation to orders from god no matter how fucked up. Like that one bible story where god was like "yo dude kill yo son" and dude was all "i dont get this but, ill blindly follow you, Mr. Top-Hommie" and god was all like "lol just kiddin nigga, kill this goat tho."
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still not flashback time?strange,i though we would have got dofla's flashback now.
chapter is a bit of a mess,and some parts could surely use some less dialogue,but all in all i like it..surprised by sabo going against a vice admiral and an admiral plus minions on his own..how strong is this guy?
Im guessing Fuji is just using Sabo as an excuse not to follow shs/colloseum army.
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they already were on the plateau,were dofla's palace was,and where probably the key still was,on the ground somewhere in the huge plateau
And that's exactly why it sounds absurd. To think that the palace has gone away and the key alone was left in there, lying in the ground.
And even if for some reason the key alone was conveniently left there, I wonder how Viola could connect a random key lying around to Law's handcuff unless her vision comes with an "item identifier", but this one is a minor point.
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And that's exactly why it sounds absurd. To think that the palace has gone away and the key alone was left in there, lying in the ground.
And even if for some reason the key alone was conveniently left there, I wonder how Viola could connect a random key lying around to Law's handcuff unless her vision comes with an "item identifier", but this one is a minor point.
Well she had already seen the key before when Luffy tried to take off Law's kairouseki handcuffs while Kyros was beheading fake Doffy, so she already knew what to look for. Her powers probably helped as has been said.
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And that's exactly why it sounds absurd. To think that the palace has gone away and the key alone was left in there, lying in the ground.
And even if for some reason the key alone was conveniently left there, I wonder how Viola could connect a random key lying around to Law's handcuff unless her vision comes with an "item identifier", but this one is a minor point.
ehm,she was there with luffy when they were unchaining law,she clearly saw how the key looks
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And that's exactly why it sounds absurd. To think that the palace has gone away and the key alone was left in there, lying in the ground.
And even if for some reason the key alone was conveniently left there, I wonder how Viola could connect a random key lying around to Law's handcuff unless her vision comes with an "item identifier", but this one is a minor point.
Pica threw evryone outside, turning the floor into hands. If the key was on the floor, it fell too. With her power, Viola can easily find what she is looking for.
How did she connect the key to law's handcuff ? It's her key, she brought it in the first place.But after 3 weeks it's natural to forget some secondary stuff
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ahh so good to have a OP chapter after 2 weeks
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… It was a nice color spread.
Yeah, that's about all of positives I have to say about this chapter.
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Guys,Viola was the one that gave the key to Luffy
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Good chapter. Sort of a set-up and just giving everyone something to do. The cliffhanger was nice. These chapters have been very basic action oriented stuff, so I can't find much to say. The colorspread was really cool, though.
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Damn, this chapter was pretty awesome! WELCOME BACK, ODA!
I'll post a more in-depth review later since I have to go to work in about a few minutes.
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Just what I wanted to see, Sabo being relevant plus Fujitora in the mix this arc is just increasing in enjoyment levels. I was hoping we would see that cora flashback but like what some have already said it's just typical Oda with how Flashbacks are presented.
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Oh, now that I think about it, I like Senor Pink vs Franky.
So yeah, two things. Imagine that.
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Oh, now that I think about it, I like Senor Pink vs Franky.
So yeah, two things. Imagine that.
But didn't you just loooooooooooove how strong Sabo seems? Isn't that cool that he's standing up against an admiral? Hehehehehe
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But didn't you just loooooooooooove how strong Sabo seems? Isn't that cool that he's standing up against an admiral? Hehehehehe
It's a shame you can't see my seething hate through the monitor.
But no, I did not.
And for that matter, I hated Viola and here stupid reasoning as well.
But I want to write something cohesive on the matter, and that will take a bit of time. Give me a minute.
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Zoro vs Sabo vs Fujitora officially confirmed.
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Is there some reason I'm missing here that makes people think the brother Sabo is referring to isn't Luffy?
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Is there some reason I'm missing here that makes people think the brother Sabo is referring to isn't Luffy?
He is referring to Luffy?
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