One Piece Troubles…

Malintex_Terek

This topic combines a variety of issues regarding One Piece, so I was not sure where to post it…if a better category suits, I urge any moderator to move this thread.

For some foundation, I am eighteen years old and starting college in the fall. I have been a One Piece reader for about six months, a length of which I am sure pales to some members here, and I hit my "Water 7," cap right before the introduction of Rocket Man.

My interest in One Piece started as a curiosity; back in September, 2004, I had been following the complaints of One Piece enthusiasts in regard to the 4Kids dub. To see what all the interest was about, I searched for "One Piece Manga," and stumbled onto an MSN site. I read (virtually non-stop) for a number of weeks, first finishing the East Blue saga by the end of April and reading Alabastia through Advanced Placement week in May.

During this time, my younger sister stumbled across Fullmetal Alchemist (of which I had been trying to convince her to watch), and she instantly transformed into an "otaku," as it were (I do not use the term to describe myself; compared to her, I'm a casual reader).

Eager to share my favourite manga with her, I tried to have her read Romance Dawn number one; unfortunely, she had watched a couple episodes of the 4Kids dub, in addition to watching deviantart's "One Piece…of Crack!" video. She wouldn't touch OP.

I was, at first, somewhat annoyed, but later distraught as manga after manga fell into her lap and was quickly devoured; Naruto, Hellsing, Berserk, InuYasha, Ranma 1/2, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach…over the past months, my sister has read all of those, but not One Piece.

Well, not ALL. I won her respect for the series after forcing her to read Romance Dawn, and she tried to read through the East Blue saga; however, taint from the dub (and other manga that started off stronger), caused her to stop reading midway through the Kuro Arc.

Since my sister watches a great deal of anime on the internet, I had hoped to introduce her to the East Blue saga, or rather, Alabastia (if needed), to get interest in the series. However, my new broadband router, which was purchased because my father could not long onto his intranet with our old one, not only decreased my processing speed to roughly a 56K modem (my college's website even criticized the low speed), but it renders our machines incapable of downloading engines, of note, BitTorrent.

Aside from direct download, there is no way to download One Piece episodes, of which the vast majority (upwards of eighty eight percent, I'd wager) are BitTorrent sites.

I am now in a quandry. I've won over my sister's friends to One Piece, but not my sister. She's devoured almost every other quality comic around, but with her current apathetic view of the series, I'm afraid she would be more inclined to read trash manga over Oda's masterpiece.

Does anyone have suggestions on what to do? If you have connections, what about a direct download site to just one interesting One Piece episode?

Buccaneer

Some trouble would be finding an interesting episode. My favorites may not make sense out of the context of the arc.

If you could think of one that could hook a Berserk/girly shonen fan, let me know and I could probably get the episode to put it up for direct download, so you'll almost certainly never find a direct download site.

DarkShinobi

Well, the beginning of One Piece is kinda uninteresting, but it gets really interesting after Arlong and I can't see anybody hating it after Alabasta.

The problem is, people in America don't give it a chance, because of the dub and because some people think the artwork is weird.

Just have your sister watch Alabasta or Skypeia and she'll love One Piece, I guarentee it.

Zephos

After Naruto and Bleach hit their respective walls of schlock shes gonna needs some new reading.

And cmon, if she can get through the lackluster first 3 volumes of Berserk….she should KNOW better than to judge a series on its opening segments.

d3adpool

what's this One Piece of Crack video?

about your sister: i wouldn't recommend anyone started reading from Arabasta, but that's just me. and u could always tie her to a chair use those thingies to open her eyes like in Clockwork Orange and flap the pages for her. that oughta make a brand new OP fan, if u can do this to arlong before ur parents getting home than it's a sure deal

Matt

I make my brother read a few chapters in return for playing video games or something with him that he likes and he eventually started to actually like OP.

VildaHawk

I started my little brother on Loguetown. Of course, that just happened to be were I was in the anime. He got into it pretty quick.

Hmmm… I wouldn't know how to help you.

Just keep trying, though.

I got my dad hooked on One Piece.

Doing the same to your sister shouldn't be too hard.

bevin

Hmm, well I started my dad off with K-F episodes of Arlong Park and we've watched almost every episode that they've done now, he loves it. But with your sister, maybe try finding a few really good music videos for the series and see if you can spark her interest that way. They're a lot shorter and might be able to intrigue her into giving it another chance. I'd very much reccomend "Sail On" by Many Lemons ( http://manylemons.co.uk/Introduction.shtml ), "Mein Herz Gehort Dir" ( http://www.onepiece-zone.de/privat/maki/ending.zip ), "The Navigator and the Swordsman by our own SetaGinny ( http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=41631 ), "Captain Hampton" by Forty Dollar Productions ( http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=9117 ), and "Dizzy" by the same ( http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=18442 ). Plus any others you might find that you think she'd like.

Malintex_Terek

The situation is very, very bad as of right now. She's delving into Death Note and D N Angel, but reportedly "hates the manga".

She liked Whisky Peak, but hated Little Garden and finds Drum boring. If she can't stomach both of those arcs, I doubt she'll get through the end of Alabastia or the end of Skypiea.

@Buccaneer:

Some trouble would be finding an interesting episode. My favorites may not make sense out of the context of the arc.

If you could think of one that could hook a Berserk/girly shonen fan, let me know and I could probably get the episode to put it up for direct download, so you'll almost certainly never find a direct download site.

I've got one in mind; the Alabastia episode where Luffy first battles Crocodile.

aaaaaee

What? She finds Drum boring? Did she get to Chopper's background? That is one of my favorite parts in the whole show, with Hiruluk's death speech and the "sakura" blooming being by far two of my favorite scenes.

warp

ask her when she is reading is she using the dub voices. if that so thats maybe why, and if she does have her watch the fansubs

Malintex_Terek

@aaaaaee:

What? She finds Drum boring? Did she get to Chopper's background? That is one of my favorite parts in the whole show, with Hiruluk's death speech and the "sakura" blooming being by far two of my favorite scenes.

Apparently, Drum was too much like the East Blue saga. I'm not really surprised, though; I didn't like Drum too much, either, but the introduction of Chopper helped pull me through it.

@warp:

ask her when she is reading is she using the dub voices. if that so thats maybe why, and if she does have her watch the fansubs

I should ask. As I said before, though, we can't get any new OP episodes due to our IP router, but we did download one episode before; that particular story was when Luffy had just left Alabastia and encountered Bellamy in Jaya.

warp

oh yeah i forgot sry. hmmm….ask her tho. what voices she uses.

Zephos

I have a feeling shes harboring a sort of bias against it. Which is more or less ruining it for her as she goes.
I mean if you go into something thinking "I'm going to hate this."
Then your probably going to hate it no matter what.

On this front, both my mom and sister are into it.

CosmicDebris

Well, I hate to be the naysayer, but you know, maybe One Piece just isn't for her. Everyone has different taste. Maybe you should stop trying to force her to watch it, and maybe eventually she'll overcome the bias, if she has one. If she saw a bunch of arcs and still didn't like it, I don't imagine seeing more will help.

Ao Kiji

After Naruto and Bleach hit their respective walls of schlock shes gonna needs some new reading.

ROFL!
Ararara..This man deserves a freakin' medal! :laugh:

BTW my friends were the same way,people who see the dub first tend to hate it and not give it a chance. I showed them a single episode: The Luffy vs Usopp fight from Water 7 and they were hooked!
They sat silently not saying a word through the whole thing! =)
Afterwards they were all 'OMG! That's like 10x better than the OP rap thing!' "OMG! They ruined it in english! Where do I get episodes!'

So try that. The Usopp vs Luffy ep. I might also recommend the arlong and water 7 arcs. If she doesn't like it after those, she ain't gonna like it.

warp

HE CANT DOWNLOAD EPISODES YOU MORON!!!!!!

just kidding :P. but he seriously cant tho

Malintex_Terek

@CosmicDebris:

Well, I hate to be the naysayer, but you know, maybe One Piece just isn't for her. Everyone has different taste. Maybe you should stop trying to force her to watch it, and maybe eventually she'll overcome the bias, if she has one. If she saw a bunch of arcs and still didn't like it, I don't imagine seeing more will help.

While I originally considered this a possibility, my sister continues to watch the OP dub on Saturday mornings. My deduction is that she's been despoiled (as opposed to spoiled) by the dub, and now lacks the patience to read back through what she's already seen in the East Blue saga.

Things work a bit differently for me (and, so it seems, for everyone else in Arlong Park). I read the manga first, then watched the dub to see what 4Kids changed (for complaint or comedic value). She watches the dub, not having the background in the manga, for the story. :/

@Zephos:

After Naruto and Bleach hit their respective walls of schlock shes gonna needs some new reading.

I apologize for not catching your comment earlier. To respond, she's run aground with Naruto and Bleach, having reached the serial caps of Japan in both, but she has actually started to reread both manga, from the beginning, rather than read One Piece. This is in addition to Death Note and D N Angel. :[

CosmicDebris

@Malintex_Terek:

While I originally considered this a possibility, my sister continues to watch the OP dub on Saturday mornings. My deduction is that she's been despoiled (as opposed to spoiled) by the dub, and now lacks the patience to read back through what she's already seen in the East Blue saga.

Things work a bit differently for me (and, so it seems, for everyone else in Arlong Park). I read the manga first, then watched the dub to see what 4Kids changed (for complaint or comedic value). She watches the dub, not having the background in the manga, for the story. :/

Well, that is an odd quandry. She says she hates it, but she keeps watching the dub, and she's not even doing it because she wants to see the changes. Yeah, that's wierd. XD Why DOES she watch the dub? It might be that seeing the Japanese anime version might be the only thing that erases the influence of the dub.

Malintex_Terek

@CosmicDebris:

Well, that is an odd quandry. She says she hates it, but she keeps watching the dub, and she's not even doing it because she wants to see the changes. Yeah, that's wierd. XD Why DOES she watch the dub? It might be that seeing the Japanese anime version might be the only thing that erases the influence of the dub.

Exactly my logic. However, as I stated before, One Piece direct downloads are virtually non-existant; we've been able to watch most of Naruto through direct download, as well as Bleach, but not One Piece.

CosmicDebris

@Malintex_Terek:

Exactly my logic. However, as I stated before, One Piece direct downloads are virtually non-existant; we've been able to watch most of Naruto through direct download, as well as Bleach, but not One Piece.

I know, but there should be some way to get around that. I guess you have already tried, or can't use IRC?

Malintex_Terek

@CosmicDebris:

I know, but there should be some way to get around that. I guess you have already tried, or can't use IRC?

No FSPs work in conjunction with this new IP Router, IRC, Kazaa, BitTorrent included. I don't even think FTP works, but I cannot safetly say without a browser to test that notion on.

taboo

If you want my advice, just give up. :/ At this point, when she's read the original and still thinks it's crap then just give up.

Ao Kiji

HE CANT DOWNLOAD EPISODES YOU MORON!!!!!!

Ararara…ICE....TIME!

I meant show her that storyline, not specifically that episode. :rolleyes:

As far as direct downloads..if you have a really good friend they could upload it for you to yousendit.com. You can upload whole movies and videoes there. It just takes a long time, like a few hours(1 or 2,maybe 3) depending on the file,connection speed,size,etc for videos.
Once they upload, get the link and download it from there,without using BT or anything!Good luck! =)

didnt see an answer to someones "what IS one piece of crap"

so here it am. by the amazing kyle : http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/11707485/

enjoy

CosmicDebris

That animation is so classic. XD I hear people reciting it around cons and stuff.

Yoska

@Zephos:

the lackluster first 3 volumes of Berserk….

Ah, I don't remind me. A headache worth of crap there up until the flashback kicks in, only Tenjou Tenge can rival with the poor execution.

You shouldn't force her. If she doesn't like then she doesn't. If it's something she would like, she will eventually get in touch with it.

@CosmicDebris:

That animation is so classic. XD I hear people reciting it around cons and stuff.

ahaha really!? thats insane XD

his discription of shanks' accent killls me. i nearly died the first time he spoke (he sounds like he is from connemara, ireland. maybe i can get a va job :D)

Solar Knight

@DarkShinobi:

The problem is, people in America don't give it a chance, because of the dub and because some people think the artwork is weird.

Heh… if I saw the dub first, I probably wouldn't have given the manga a chance. I actually got into it at first due to the art style (it was different in a good way).