Well, I guess I'll be the one to post the darn thing.
My Hero Academia - Gomu Gomu no Gentle Fist
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They changed and added much more to this section of the story than I thought they would. How many more episodes are left this season?
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4 episodes .
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4 episodes .
Thanks!
I do like that they've been adding in little tidbits like showing Midnight's original design concept.
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Bones is doing a fantastical job with extra material this season. Hope they keep the two fights per episode till the gran finale.
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The only thing I kinda dislike from this adaptation is constantly splashing the character's names and quirks overhead when a character appears on screen towards the beginning of each episode.
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The only thing I kinda dislike from this adaptation is constantly splashing the character's names and quirks overhead when a character appears on screen towards the beginning of each episode.
Behind-the-scenes spoilers: This is why we had to decide on Tomrua's quirk being "Decay" before the name ever appeared in the manga.
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@CCC:
Behind-the-scenes spoilers: This is why we had to decide on Tomrua's quirk being "Decay" before the name ever appeared in the manga.
Huh…Well that is interesting. But it had to be decided to be Decay? What else could it have been?
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It may or may not have been suggested to me, but I would've gone with Decay nonetheless. More catchy than "Disintegrate, though "Breakdown" could've also worked (kind of juxtaposed with "Overhaul").
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I would have liked Breakdown if only to make puns and music/dance jokes about Shigaraki.
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"Life's not about finding out which card is yours, but finding out which cards you're not."
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@Count:
I would have liked Breakdown if only to make puns and music/dance jokes about Shigaraki.
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Another great episode as usual.
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I guess they are saving Deku + Bakugou vs All Might for the last episode of the season? Instead of breaking it up the way the manga had it. AlthoughIi suppose that actually works better since the way that particular arc ended wasn't a super "Wow!" Kind is scene
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Yeah. That Teacher VS Students video game homage is the order they'll go. If they add filler they can stretch to four episodes. If they want to end with the mall scene, the exams end in three episodes.
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Mirio confirmed as Tintin's son.
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Another good chapter, but the last few pages I wasn't as keen on. Mainly how we skipped out a lot more on seeing Mirio fighting at a disadvantage. Seeing a bit more of him fighting without his quirk would've been great. Beyond that, everything else was pretty well executed.
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Very solid chapter, is amazing that Mirio hold his ground for so long, and for so long without his quirk. I little predictable since we all saw it would happen from miles a way but the execution was good.
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Can we see Urarvity and Froppy Action in this arc?
Please?
I would like that very much.
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Ugh, sometimes i just hate the need for main characters
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Everyone saw mirio losing his quirk but who called that he would go on with it in the same battle?
Will deku offer him one for all?
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I don't want 3 OFA users around.
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Even if he did, Mirio would likely refuse the offer.
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So the top student at UA gets Rock Lee'd on the first job we see him on. Fantastic…
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Mirio had death flags all over him from the moment he showed up. This is perhaps an even more cruel way to have him go. Crippled by the loss of his quirk, forced to watch Deku and the others from the sidelines as at most a mediocre hero (or more likely, an above average policeman), despite all the efforts he made to get to the top.
All because All Might got trigger happy with passing on OFA.
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Even though the "twist" was very predictable I loved Mirio in this chapter. From his motivation to being hit and then continuing to fight. Such a badass character.
Would've been a great chapter if it wasn't for two things: Mirio's battle getting offscreened at the last minute and Deku coming to save the day. I like Deku and there's still the possibility for him to end up in a supportive role, but Mirio should be the one to finish the fight. Deku could deal with the remaining underlings.
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Dunno, thought that was pretty great. Probably enjoyed it more than any OP chapter in recent memory.
Hang in there, Kierkegaard.
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Mirio couldn't have defeated Chisaki on his own since he was only surviving the ground spikes before because of his quirk. Him winning a 2-3 on 1 fight on physical ability alone is too much to believe in this series. It's also exactly the reason Deku couldn't be a hero without a quirk.
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@Zar:
Would've been a great chapter if it wasn't for two things: Mirio's battle getting offscreened at the last minute and Deku coming to save the day. I like Deku and there's still the possibility for him to end up in a supportive role, but Mirio should be the one to finish the fight. Deku could deal with the remaining underlings.
I agree about Quirkless Mirio getting off-screened, but hopefully we still see that struggle explored while Deku is around. I disagree about having only Deku deal with underlings though. Like Wokky said, there is no way that Mirio should be able to finish off Overhaul without his Quirk. This fight so far has done a great job of both showing how rightfully strong one of the Big Three is while respecting the teamwork and tenacity of a weaker main arc antagonist crew. Mirio pushing on to the point of victory would spoil that balance a bit, as well as feel like a retread of All-Might versus All-For-One. This should feel tragic at the end of the day and harken back to the reality Deku understood of being Quirkless in a world of Quirks, and to do that, he should not be able to win in a Quirkless state. And Deku deserves to have some beef with Overhaul for letting Eri go.
I wonder why Overhaul considers Quirks to be an "illness". That would be something very interesting to explore, and hopefully isn't only general big talk about how superheroes are nothing without powers.
I hope Chronostasis isn't completely out of commission though. I don't think we have seen his Quirk yet. Judging by his name, I wonder if it's Za Warudo.
It would suck if not only the girls' fight got skipped (there is still hope that their battle connects to how the heroes escape at the end of the arc), but Nejire was the only member of the Big Three to not get a flashback. Then she would really feel like the cheap token female of the group.
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I agree about Quirkless Mirio getting off-screened, but hopefully we still see that struggle explored while Deku is around. I disagree about having only Deku deal with underlings though. Like Wokky said, there is no way that Mirio should be able to finish off Overhaul without his Quirk. This fight so far has done a great job of both showing how rightfully strong one of the Big Three is while respecting the teamwork and tenacity of a weaker main arc antagonist crew. Mirio pushing on to the point of victory would spoil that balance a bit, as well as feel like a retread of All-Might versus All-For-One. This should feel tragic at the end of the day and harken back to the reality Deku understood of being Quirkless in a world of Quirks, and to do that, he should not be able to win in a Quirkless state. And Deku deserves to have some beef with Overhaul for letting Eri go.
Now that I think about it more closely, I realize my problem isn't with Deku coming to save the day but that Mirio didn't get a proper "finisher". The fight should've been continued so the reader got to experience Mirio slowly being worn out. It would've increased tensions and created a more natural (if predictable) bridge to Deku's entrance. Instead we go right from the height of Mirio's hype where it seems he has the upper hand only to suddenly see him losing. It creates this feeling where instead of Deku saving a beloved character who fought with everything he had, it feels like Mirio was pushed aside so Deku could steal his spotlight. If that makes sense.
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Mirio couldn't have defeated Chisaki on his own since he was only surviving the ground spikes before because of his quirk. Him winning a 2-3 on 1 fight on physical ability alone is too much to believe in this series. It's also exactly the reason Deku couldn't be a hero without a quirk.
I disagree with this part. I hate to pull the Batman card, but I'm pulling the Batman card. Dude had contingency plans to take down just about every known villain and hero, and could believably take down entire groups with nothing but some gadgets and smarts. Deku has that kind of analytical ability and, through UA, has access to the gadgets.
To me, the foot up my crotch is that UA's fucking principle is basically quirkless. Sure, he's a talking rodent, but his ability is literally just super intelligence, and he's still a great enough hero to be educating the cream of the next generation's crop. And even if you say 'but he's SUPER intelligent and Deku's just regular intelligent', look at Sir Nighteye. His quirk only works on one person once a day, meaning that, aside from helping formulate plans, and maybe being able to school a single opponent if the stars align, he fights naked of any quirks. Also, Mei's quirk is literally just that her eyes can be binoculars, and even though she's not in the heroics department, that is definitely by choice. She beat Iida with basic high school level cunning and her own tech. Deku's definitely smarter and, even without his quirk, stronger than her, so he should be able to do amazing things with intelligence alone. Also, finally, consider how well Mirio is doing here without even an ounce of the smarts Deku has.
I'm 90% convinced that Deku was given a quirk by editor meddling.
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@Zar:
Now that I think about it more closely, I realize my problem isn't with Deku coming to save the day but that Mirio didn't get a proper "finisher". The fight should've been continued so the reader got to experience Mirio slowly being worn out. It would've increased tensions and created a more natural (if predictable) bridge to Deku's entrance. Instead we go right from the height of Mirio's hype where it seems he has the upper hand only to suddenly see him losing. It creates this feeling where instead of Deku saving a beloved character who fought with everything he had, it feels like Mirio was pushed aside so Deku could steal his spotlight. If that makes sense.
Exactly. That is why I agreed with your first issue. You make perfect sense here.
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I disagree with this part. I hate to pull the Batman card, but I'm pulling the Batman card. Dude had contingency plans to take down just about every known villain and hero, and could believably take down entire groups with nothing but some gadgets and smarts. Deku has that kind of analytical ability and, through UA, has access to the gadgets.
To me, the foot up my crotch is that UA's fucking principle is basically quirkless. Sure, he's a talking rodent, but his ability is literally just super intelligence, and he's still a great enough hero to be educating the cream of the next generation's crop. And even if you say 'but he's SUPER intelligent and Deku's just regular intelligent', look at Sir Nighteye. His quirk only works on one person once a day, meaning that, aside from helping formulate plans, and maybe being able to school a single opponent if the stars align, he fights naked of any quirks. Also, Mei's quirk is literally just that her eyes can be binoculars, and even though she's not in the heroics department, that is definitely by choice. She beat Iida with basic high school level cunning and her own tech. Deku's definitely smarter and, even without his quirk, stronger than her, so he should be able to do amazing things with intelligence alone. Also, finally, consider how well Mirio is doing here without even an ounce of the smarts Deku has.
I'm 90% convinced that Deku was given a quirk by editor meddling.
But Deku doesn't have Batman's financial superpowers either…
Nah, this is an entirely fair critique. In most cases just high level physical training would be enough to let a quirkless person get by as a low level hero, and denying someone that opportunity is rather short-sighted. However, there are a couple in-universe justifications that could make it work. For instance, Aizawa has already commented that the entry exam is flawed and that UA (and the culture as a whole) place too much emphasis on flashy quirks.
I'd also argue that Overhaul (and many of the cleansers) is well above the average hero's pay grade and thus too much for a powerless person, or even most quirks, to deal with unless they have incredible tech support. Mirio's loss here is entirely justified.
Two quibbles: Deku is likely more tactical than Mei but probably not "smarter" in general, and Nezu is never, iirc, referred to as an actual hero. He's just a very smart administrator as far as we know.
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Aw man, I'm so sad. Can't believe I what I just saw. Why didn't I think of the possibility of Hirokoshi using Mirio's hero name as the title? You win again.
A gut punching chapter. Love Mirio didn't miss a beat and kept on fighting. And, I'm fine with him taking on those guys quirkless. The two minions could barely move and Overhaul got a good beatdown eariler. Mirio should be able to finish him off.
Not sure what's up with Chronostatis not using his quirk. Must have a big drawback. Guess he's Overhaul's escape plan. As for Deku, I doubt he's taking on Overhaul. He'll mostly protect Eri and Mirio. Mirio should be the one to send Overhaul packing. Not smart enough and crap facilities, Chronostatis? If only there was an amoral scientist with a lab with no problems experimenting on children somewhere. Holy hell, the Villain Alliance has a lot going for them. And that's not counting that radio villain I'm sure one of them recruited off-screen.
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I loved the idea and execution of Mirio's character but I feel a lot of it was missing proper build up. We just haven't really grown to know Mirio well enough for this to work effectively as a pay off as much as it could have, notice how the author put in three pages of Mirio montage flashbacks when these sort of scenes only have one, probably because the author had ideas for exploring Mirio that he never got to introduce properly. Then you offscreen most of Mirio fighting quirkless which was disappointing followed by Deku rushing in at the end which isn't as big an impact as it could be since he totally feels disconnected to the emotion of the situation, even if he was one of the heroes who had to abandon Eri, there just hasn't been proper emotional and stakes buildup. Like say he had a hard, desperate fight getting through an underling to get to Mirio where you really feel his desperation and drive to fight Eri. Instead they were given to Red Riot, Fat Gum and Suneater, two of them minor side characters (and let's not forget how neglected the female characters are).
Horikoshi has good ideas for a shonen manga but his structuring still needs a lot of work.
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@Count:
I wonder why Overhaul considers Quirks to be an "illness". That would be something very interesting to explore, and hopefully isn't only general big talk about how superheroes are nothing without powers.
I guess it's not about Quirks, but the dreams of becoming heroes they give. I guess it's more clear here.
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Instead they were given to Red Riot, Fat Gum and Suneater, two of them minor side characters (and let's not forget how neglected the female characters are).
Isn't Mirio also a minor side character?
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I reqlly like the work on Mirio's character in the last 2 chapters. You can feel the drive, the passion and the need to help the helpless. I like that he wasn't given some kind of awful flaw that would make him unworthy of All-Might or Night's high regards for him.
This chapter mostly continue that trend.
A moment I think that One Piec3 didn't sell was Ace proficiency without his fruit. We are just told he is awesome without it but never get to see. In this moment where Mirio disreguard his loss and continue for Chisaki you can both how strong he truly as he is still landing his hit but also how driven he is from him barely flinching from losing his power. In that respect That's one of the best sequence of the author. And I really think Mirio's face sell his determination. For a brief moment I even wondered if he would get to win as a last testimony of his power before having to retire. But there was little chance of it hapenning and it's a testament of how much I like the character that I considered such opportunity.
Sadly the ending I really don't like. First the choice to not a longer fight with the quirkless Mirio but mostly the way Deku's entry is played. Mirio just lost his quirk and I think the chapter should have kept the focus on him. Instead the last pages really wants you to focus on how much awesome Deku is.
Anyway I found it interezting how both Broodingteen and Mirio were given such important fights and focus while the girl hasn't recieve any yet. Maybe it comes later this arc but the main character is currently facing the bad guy of the arc.
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I guess it's not about Quirks, but the dreams of becoming heroes they give. I guess it's more clear here.
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Isn't Mirio also a minor side character?
Yeah, you're right about it being more about dreams than actual powers. I would still like to see this explored more though.
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Just like last chapter, really intense. I just love it and it's going to be a shame if Mirio's quirk is gone for good. Not sure how I can believe that the quirk removal is permanent, especially considering the shabby equipment they have.
But the author keeps puzzling me with awkward breaks during the fight. Just like when Mirio defeated all the cadets. Or in last chapter, where the sudden appearance of Truth Serum guy was announced before it actually happened. Really breaks the rhytm. In this chapter we were later told instead of shown, and I'd prefer otherwise.
At least we'll get to see how Deku handles the opponent whose touch he needs to avoid. If anything, it's going to be a good experience for when he faces Tomura.
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But Deku doesn't have Batman's financial superpowers either…
Nah, this is an entirely fair critique. In most cases just high level physical training would be enough to let a quirkless person get by as a low level hero, and denying someone that opportunity is rather short-sighted. However, there are a couple in-universe justifications that could make it work. For instance, Aizawa has already commented that the entry exam is flawed and that UA (and the culture as a whole) place too much emphasis on flashy quirks.
I'd also argue that Overhaul (and many of the cleansers) is well above the average hero's pay grade and thus too much for a powerless person, or even most quirks, to deal with unless they have incredible tech support. Mirio's loss here is entirely justified.
Two quibbles: Deku is likely more tactical than Mei but probably not "smarter" in general, and Nezu is never, iirc, referred to as an actual hero. He's just a very smart administrator as far as we know.
As far as I know (I'm not a Batman expert), most of Batman's extra super money just went into the gadgets, which Deku still seems to have better access to.
The entrance exam thing is def a problem they acknowledge, which I respect, but what irks me more is how the attitude permeates society. Someone without a quirk doesn't stand a chance of being a hero, except look at all these people who basically don't need quirks to be heroes. That's the inconsistency that I'm striking at.
As for the Overhaul stuff, I still don't see it as a big hurdle for someone quirkless. While Mirio's loss is justified, you mentioned that tech could help. Beyond that, Mirio was also unprepared to fight quirkless, and also rushed in recklessly alone against enemies with unknown powers on their own turf. He was woefully underprepared. I don't really want to get into hypotheticals with that fight, but I think that an experienced quirkless fighter with skill, knowledge and gadgets to compliment their fighting ability could definitely go toe to toe with the big shots. Someone like All For One would be a bigger problem, but neither him nor his self-titled ability seemed to be flawless, and if anyone could figure out those flaws, it'd be a trained Deku.
As for the quibbles: yeah 'smarter' was a poor choice of words on my part for Deku vs Mei, haha. Tactical is a better word, or analytical. I can't say I actually know who would even win that, since we've never really seen Mei apply herself in combat (even the Iida fight was just her glorified tech demonstration). I guess I just didn't think of Mei as smart since she makes her tech so effortlessly that it might as well just be her quirk. And yeah, good point on Nezu. No actual clue about him being a hero, though I'll contend that he held his own during the Final Exam arc against Mina and Kaminari. Not that they're peak heroes, but he still easily took on two bequirked fighters while being under severe limitations for both the conditions of victory and, presumably, a self-imposed handicap.
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I liked the chapter, but I hope that Eri can heal Mirio or that Overhaul also has a cure for it, he could sell both for high prices or keep the antidote for himself. I really don´t want to see Mirio without quirk for the rest of the series, also if Nighteye uses this situation to make Deku feel guilty I will really start hating him.
Besides the Kirishima´s flashback, I like the arc, but it´s clearly unfair that the only fight that wan´t in chronological order and will most likely be skipped is the girls one, like there was no point in including them if you are gonna do this. One thing that could save this is the girls arriving to rescue the others (showing the precept pretty beaten to the pulp), though it will look less cooler since the baddies are already pretty damn injured, but Kurogiri exists and could bring there opponent for the girls (members of the league or Noumus)
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Dunno, thought that was pretty great. Probably enjoyed it more than any OP chapter in recent memory.
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Oh. That's… a lot more predictable. I can't believe I didn't consider that lol.
In after I was right
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My only hope left for a girls fight is the giant guy laughing after getting pinned. At this point he may be the strongest of the eight saved for last.
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I hated the execution of everything that happened in this chapter. Not just because the event was easily predictable.
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Mirio had death flags all over him from the moment he showed up. This is perhaps an even more cruel way to have him go. Crippled by the loss of his quirk, forced to watch Deku and the others from the sidelines as at most a mediocre hero (or more likely, an above average policeman), despite all the efforts he made to get to the top.
All because All Might got trigger happy with passing on OFA.
Look at it this way: if AM had passed OfA to Mirio and he was still shot like he did, it would be the end of the OfA lineage right there.
Now for my man Mirio, one of the things I always found weird with this manga is how Midoriya was not used to prove that people could become heroes without a quirk, but rather to reinforce the notion that it would be impossible. I am curious to see if Mirio will succeed in this.
Amazing chapter. Even if it was a predictable outcome, it was done amazingly so I am completely pleased with it.
With Midoriya reaching Overhaul, though, the chances we ever moving to the girl group seem to be pretty much 0 now. I seriously hope this will lead to something and not just them having finished off their part offscreen. And, yes, I am incredibly salty about how the girls are being handled so far (you can only go so far saying "wow, Horikoshi makes such amazing female characters" just because they have interesting personalities, but are still denied the chance to get the exposure the male characters keep getting. This manga is too good to fail at this, so I am still hoping for the better).
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I wonder if the Quirk nullification shots can be countered by the Quirk enhancing drugs.
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Look at it this way: if AM had passed OfA to Mirio and he was still shot like he did, it would be the end of the OfA lineage right there.
Now for my man Mirio, one of the things I always found weird with this manga is how Midoriya was not used to prove that people could become heroes without a quirk, but rather to reinforce the notion that it would be impossible. I am curious to see if Mirio will succeed in this.
Amazing chapter. Even if it was a predictable outcome, it was done amazingly so I am completely pleased with it.
With Midoriya reaching Overhaul, though, the chances we ever moving to the girl group seem to be pretty much 0 now. I seriously hope this will lead to something and not just them having finished off their part offscreen. And, yes, I am incredibly salty about how the girls are being handled so far (you can only go so far saying "wow, Horikoshi makes such amazing female characters" just because they have interesting personalities, but are still denied the chance to get the exposure the male characters keep getting. This manga is too good to fail at this, so I am still hoping for the better).
Except he wouldn't have been shot because he'd have won the fight already if he had OFA powers
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Except he wouldn't have been shot because he'd have won the fight already if he had OFA powers
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That's impossible to know. You are assuming Mirio with OfA would be exactly the same Mirio we have now but with the bonus of having OfA, but that is ignoring a lot of variables.
If he had the confidence to fight head-on thanks to OfA, maybe he wouldn't be as careful as he is having only Phase, making him an easier prey to someone like Nemoto whose greatest feat is being able to read someone's psyche and take advantage of it.
I mean, he only managed to defeat Nemoto+Sakaki because being weak was ingrained in his personality to such a point he managed to almost instantly recover from Nemoto's psychological blow! Would that still be true if his career as a hero student was with him being AM's successor? Maybe with OfA he wouldn't even have got to the point of fighting Overhaul…Also, if he had to train both powers, you can be sure he wouldn't have perfected Phase to the point he did having it as his only quirk. Instead of being a master of 2 quirks, there is the possibility he would only be good at each of them.
To me, the foot up my crotch is that UA's fucking principle is basically quirkless. Sure, he's a talking rodent, but his ability is literally just super intelligence, and he's still a great enough hero to be educating the cream of the next generation's crop. And even if you say 'but he's SUPER intelligent and Deku's just regular intelligent', look at Sir Nighteye. His quirk only works on one person once a day, meaning that, aside from helping formulate plans, and maybe being able to school a single opponent if the stars align, he fights naked of any quirks. Also, Mei's quirk is literally just that her eyes can be binoculars, and even though she's not in the heroics department, that is definitely by choice. She beat Iida with basic high school level cunning and her own tech. Deku's definitely smarter and, even without his quirk, stronger than her, so he should be able to do amazing things with intelligence alone. Also, finally, consider how well Mirio is doing here without even an ounce of the smarts Deku has.
The entrance exam thing is def a problem they acknowledge, which I respect, but what irks me more is how the attitude permeates society. Someone without a quirk doesn't stand a chance of being a hero, except look at all these people who basically don't need quirks to be heroes. That's the inconsistency that I'm striking at.
I believe the problem is that you are focusing too much on the "battle aspect". This is a battle manga, so almost every instance of a hero doing something will end up being a fight or fight related stuff, but Horikoshi has continuously gone out of his way to remember us that in that universe being a hero is much more than fighting. So while a hero like Sir may have a quirk unsuited for fighting and, if needed to fight, will be fighting "quirklessly", it doesn't mean their quirk will not compensate in other areas and that's what allow them to become heroes in the first place (you can't fight for shit, but you have a quirk that help greatly in rescue missions, for example).
AFAIK, "quirkless people can't be heroes" is an established fact in MHA universe - meaning that probably there was never any quirkless hero so far. There were no exceptions presented (Knuckleduster is the closest we got of that). And it's easy to see how that's true in a world where everyone has a special power, where only the exception of the exception don't have it. -
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I believe the problem is that you are focusing too much on the "battle aspect". This is a battle manga, so almost every instance of a hero doing something will end up being a fight or fight related stuff, but Horikoshi has continuously gone out of his way to remember us that in that universe being a hero is much more than fighting. So while a hero like Sir may have a quirk unsuited for fighting and, if needed to fight, will be fighting "quirklessly", it doesn't mean their quirk will not compensate in other areas and that's what allow them to become heroes in the first place (you can't fight for shit, but you have a quirk that help greatly in rescue missions, for example).
AFAIK, "quirkless people can't be heroes" is an established fact in MHA universe - meaning that probably there was never any quirkless hero so far. There were no exceptions presented (Knuckleduster is the closest we got of that). And it's easy to see how that's true in a world where everyone has a special power, where only the exception of the exception don't have it.I don't really get the point you're making. I was suggesting that Deku had those 'much more than fighting' qualities, which is why All Might chose him over Mirio. In fact, if those assets are emphasized over battle power, then by all means quirkless heroes should exist. There's obvs people like Mirio's dad who could never become a hero despite having the same powers that his son's put so well to use, and obvs there's people like Deku and Knuckleduster who could definitely be heroic even without powers, so why is it such a stretch to believe that someone quirkless can be a hero? I don't think it's internally consistent, which is why it salts me so.
