My Hero Academia - Gomu Gomu no Gentle Fist

Jabberwok

I don't agree, I can think of a ton of scenes in episode one I'd cut short but in this episode I felt the anime hit it's stride, I'd only cut out some of the flashbacks.
Was near perfect for me.

It's probably too early to say the show hit its stride either way, considering that we just finished the first chapter and Midoriya doesn't even have OFA yet. You can cut out or abbreviate scenes in either episode but going back and reading the first chapter, everything is taken pretty much directly from the manga. I was largely fine with the pacing of this episode but the extended recap and "Pathetic!" repetition raised a few flags for me. Hopefully it doesn't become a thing in the future.

Just an idea, but one thing that would make recaps more enjoyable is if they were done in Western-style high-contrast still frames instead of just edited clips. You know, kind of like the cover and first page of a comic book? I feel like that would add a fun, heightened feel to the whole thing that would be great even in slower episodes.

King Cannon

@Codus:

That wouldn't be necessary. AFO could simply chat him up to open up about himself a little, then after analyzing his over-inflated ego, he'd simply go in for the literal bomb-dropping.

They don't have time for that. Shigaraki himself said that the leisurely convincing time is over.

And Bakugou has made it clear he doesn't really want to talk back either. God knows why Bakugou would speak about his personal background. This plan requires some major assuming from the villains' part in order to be viable (they would pretty much need a perfect understanding of Bakugou's relationship with Midoriya in order to exploit this. And even then, there's no guarantee it would work anyway).

Brotato

@brennen.exe:

Aren't they just going to remove his quirk? (AFO getting involved). It'd make him helpless for a while, and then he could get it back after he's been humbled a bit. Break his spirit. Teach him what it's like to be Deku.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking before the kidnapping even happened and after this chapter I'm almost positive this is the route that things will take. I just wonder how long Bakugou will go without a quirk if this is the case. It'd be neat if he lost it for an entire arc at least, hell, it'll be interesting to see things play out no matter the case.

AstaampDeku

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AstaampDeku

So I was just rereading Bnha when I noticed something very important.

You see this two pages? Look at the buildings on each page. If you notice what I'm talking about then you will know why I'm gonna say that the students are officially fucked

Jabberwok

@Asta&Deku:

So I was just rereading Bnha when I noticed something very important.

You see this two pages? Look at the buildings on each page. If you notice what I'm talking about then you will know why I'm gonna say that the students are officially fucked [qimg]http://a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/15366/021.0/compressed/j006.jpg?v=1419147421[/qimg][qimg]http://manga.famatg.com/content/comics/my_hero_academia_55ddf4af08adc/86_0_before_the_storm_570bf7474ff71/FA_MHA_86_18-19.png[/qimg]

We're assuming the villains are in the karaoke bar, right? Because it looks like the heroes are about to assault the building next to it.

The real question is where the hell the kids are.

AstaampDeku

@Jabberwok:

We're assuming the villains are in the karaoke bar, right? Because it looks like the heroes are about to assault the building next to it.

The real question is where the hell the kids are.

Think about it. What is momo tracking? The Noumu right? So if all might is at shirigaki's place then the students are at the Noumu's hideout.

King Cannon

@Jabberwok:

We're assuming the villains are in the karaoke bar, right? Because it looks like the heroes are about to assault the building next to it.

They're supposed to be in an abandoned building, so a karaoke bar doesn't make sense.

Jabberwok

@King:

They're supposed to be in an abandoned building, so a karaoke bar doesn't make sense.

Sorry, I meant to mention if it was possible worst case scenario. The heroes are clearly in the right location.

AfroSamurai

@Asta&Deku:

So I was just rereading Bnha when I noticed something very important.

You see this two pages? Look at the buildings on each page. If you notice what I'm talking about then you will know why I'm gonna say that the students are officially fucked http://a.mhcdn.net/store/manga/15366/021.0/compressed/j006.jpg?v=1419147421 http://manga.famatg.com/content/comics/my_hero_academia_55ddf4af08adc/86_0_before_the_storm_570bf7474ff71/FA_MHA_86_18-19.png

Great find! Looks like we'll be getting Deku vs AFO earlier than expected

Codus

@King:

They don't have time for that. Shigaraki himself said that the leisurely convincing time is over.

And Bakugou has made it clear he doesn't really want to talk back either. God knows why Bakugou would speak about his personal background. This plan requires some major assuming from the villains' part in order to be viable (they would pretty much need a perfect understanding of Bakugou's relationship with Midoriya in order to exploit this. And even then, there's no guarantee it would work anyway).

As Wagomu said, it would defeat the purpose of this ideological war if AFO resorts to a brainwashing quirk, because it would cheapen their message.

It wouldn't be that hard to figure out their relationship anyway…. If the mole they have in Yuuei's ranks is a student, presumably a class 1-A student, then by perusing the reports on Bakugou and Midoriya, it wouldn't take AFO 5 minutes to put two and two together.

fana

If there will be some brainwashing quirk involved to turn Bakugou, I'm guessing that Shinsou will help undo it. That panel with him and Aizawa would turn out to be a foreshadowing.

CaptainAppleJack

!
! Rad-looking Color Page.

King Cannon

@Codus:

As Wagomu said, it would defeat the purpose of this ideological war if AFO resorts to a brainwashing quirk, because it would cheapen their message.

It wouldn't be that hard to figure out their relationship anyway…. If the mole they have in Yuuei's ranks is a student, presumably a class 1-A student, then by perusing the reports on Bakugou and Midoriya, it wouldn't take AFO 5 minutes to put two and two together.

I don't think reports have all that story inserted them. Plus, they worked together well in the exam so it's not like Bakugou has that terrible of a relationship.

Also, we have to assume All For One knows about the true nature of One For All. Shigaraki himself doesn't know the All Might secret and asking AFO to just reveal a secret would be… unnecessary (why doesn't Shigaraki just tell him instead of AFO? And if AFO knows but Shigaraki doesn't, why doesn't he tell Shigaraki?). Shigaraki clearly asked for him to lend his power, so it's most likely something All For One will do with his Quirk.

As you can see, this whole thing requires a bunch of assumptions to work. The ideological war is there, but that doesn't mean they have to win it in order to cause damage.

Brotato

Korean scan of chapter 87

pariston_hill

! That was a quick clean up…or not?! Also poor Ragdoll.

Jabberwok

! Shock and awe, motherfuckers.
! Actually, that looked fairly tame. And Bakugou looks disgruntled about something? Waiting to see how this all goes wrong.

AstaampDeku

! This seems way too easy. Something big is going to happen next chapter.

Baldulf

! Death flags. I see death flags everywhere

Average

! YAASSS Best Jeanist! I can't wait to see what Horikoshi does with his quirk (also why is his neck so long??). I wonder who's gonna die though. The All for One dudezo has gotta be around somewhere. If he could damage All Might to that extent I'm sure he's got some sneaky-snake quirks that'll be hard to deal with.

garonne

anyone got non english chapter? my usual source seems to not have anything.

Bond en Avant

@garonne:

anyone got non english chapter? my usual source seems to not have anything.

I'm not sure which language you're looking for but we do have the Chinese version here:
http://ishuhui.net/ReadComicBooks/4780.html

Gliblord

I really liked how they did Izuku's mumbling in the latest episode, so it inspired me to change my avatar

Kizuchan

I liked how they did his mumbling, too. The animation wasn't anything amazing this episode, but the art was still really good and it was also well-directed and scored. Really good ep. Can't wait for next ep, where the action kicks off.

Kaze

Such a good freakin chapter. Finally showing off heroes like I've been wanting. Hands down one of my favorite chapters in this series.

Jabberwok

Is there still no English translation? I'm dying here.

KageKageKing

! I had to google it to see if Kamino was a real world Pizzeria.
EDIT:http://readms.com/r/my_hero_academia/087/3360/1

GJardim

Well, I think things will go wrong soon, but that was a good show of how powerful the heroes are when acting together.

Shadowgreed

This was way to fast! Is either AFO shows up or another group that can match Endeavor and All Might shows up.

I still find it weird that we haven't heard or seen any villains that can actually go toe to toe with the top heroes yet.

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Big_Bad_Lith

Anyone else notice the orca-yakuza dude from Oumagadoki Doubutsuen in the last spread? Nice to see he found work as a hero!

maxterdexter

@Shadowgreed:

This was way to see! Is either AFO shows up or another group that can match Endeavor and All Might shows up.

I still find it weird that we haven't heard or seen any villains that can actually go toe to toe with the top heroes yet.

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All Might is so overwhelmly powerful, that any such villian was taken down quickly once he showed up, and any rational person with strong enough powers to match him would rather try and use their quirks in a way that don't earn them a detroit smash in the face. Only those desperate, or kind of crazy are willing to face the heroes, and the simbol of justice, all might.

Bond en Avant

@Big_Bad_Lith:

Anyone else notice the orca-yakuza dude from Oumagadoki Doubutsuen in the last spread? Nice to see he found work as a hero!

He was there last chapter as well. Glib probably had his heart eaten when he saw him.

Speaking of Oumaga cameos, did anyone else notice Hana (and that circus kid whose name I just can't seem to remember) in episode 2?

KageKageKing

Best Jeanist quirk…STRINGS!

maxterdexter

He can control any fibers, so while it seems like a dumb skill, someone has to figth him naked to not "instalose" to him, or overwhelm the strings, with brute strength or a maleable body.

Kizuchan

Best pizza ever. Freaking awesome chapter. Can't help but feel it's a little too easy, though.

Bond en Avant

@maxterdexter:

He can control any fibers, so while it seems like a dumb skill, someone has to figth him naked to not "instalose" to him, or overwhelm the strings, with brute strength or a maleable body.

Even fighting naked won't save you from the strings since Best Jeanist is covered head to toe in fibrous jeans.
We see him unraveling his sleeves to constrain the presumably naked Noumus.

maxterdexter

Yeah, that's why I said instalose, you are still at a disaavantage naked.

I wonder how this will go wrong. Only all for one is unnacounted for. Unless he manages to steal everyone's quirks inside both buildings, he just lost everything.

Except the shady dealer.

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Like fighting magneto. Dropping your metal weapons only gives you a fighting chance, not a victory.

Shadowgreed

@maxterdexter:

All Might is so overwhelmly powerful, that any such villian was taken down quickly once he showed up, and any rational person with strong enough powers to match him would rather try and use their quirks in a way that don't earn them a detroit smash in the face. Only those desperate, or kind of crazy are willing to face the heroes, and the simbol of justice, all might.

I don't know it just doesn't sit right with me, in a world where quirks are everything there should be one or two insane powerful enemies that can stand up to All Might besides AFO.

El-Matematico

Bakugou looked conflicted in the way All Might treated him. And in every panel he seemed to become angrier.

maxterdexter

@Shadowgreed:

I don't know it just doesn't sit right with me, in a world where quirks are everything there should be one or two insane powerful enemies that can stand up to All Might besides AFO.

Look at the bunch of heroes that practically just crushed all for one's organization. Compare to justice league where only the league of doom and aliens could keep the league at bay long enough to be considered recurring threats.

These heroes are not just powerful but have the backing of society and the law, what kind of villian do you expect to be able to stand against that just with power alone? The good guys have too many advantages right now.

A lex luthor type of villian with a good social face might fly, but those require the twist of "oh he was evil all along". Before that it is Just too soon to tell.
A joker type, well, there were moonfish and muscle head, that just survive by existing in the fringe of society and doing whatever.
A magneto type? We had stain already, and there is the fallout of his disciples.
A doom type? On the open? When there are this many heroes that are willing to work together? That was all for one in his prime. And he lost his face because of it.

desa

Seems like BoomBoom won't stay long with the villains. I expect a curve ball in the operation since that's our antagonist force and they seem pretty done for.

@Shadowgreed:

I don't know it just doesn't sit right with me, in a world where quirks are everything there should be one or two insane powerful enemies that can stand up to All Might besides AFO.

The quirks of All might and the other dude are the results of generations of improvement while the rest only get their lifetime to improve theirs. There's a possibility that All Might has grown weak enough to be beaten by someone else but that would be due to being far from his prime.

maxterdexter

Besides, any true world counterpart of some dictator or crime lord could still exist, but not in Japan.

Vigilantism is usually reactionary, while the police forces are proactive, if you combine both of their strengths, some of the weakness are reduced.

Corruption. low Budget, safety issues, response times, consequences, all things that can be countered by quirks.

Shadowgreed

@desa:

The quirks of All might and the other dude are the results of generations of improvement while the rest only get their lifetime to improve theirs.

That's one way to put it, but even then it cannot/should not be absolute!

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@maxterdexter:

Besides, any true world counterpart of some dictator or crime lord could still exist, but not in Japan.

Vigilantism is usually reactionary, while the police forces are proactive, if you combine both of their strengths, some of the weakness are reduced.

Corruption. low Budget, safety issues, response times, consequences, all things that can be countered by quirks.

It does make sense that no such villain has been mentioned but rather the author has made it clear that All Might is absolute, but I'm probably wanting to see things that the author either won't show or is not the right time to show just yet.

desa

@Shadowgreed:

That's one way to put it, but even then it cannot/should not be absolute!

I would say it's pretty normal for more than 12 lifetime of training to be better than 1. Anyway he is far from his prime.

Or that a lifetime of cherry picking quirk and breeding the best ones would make the strongest. Anyway he is stuck on a chair with his face in bad shape.

LegendarySSJ4

Another disappointing chapter.

maxterdexter

What I found pretty weird was the very large numbers for the first attack. It was at least 10 villians per group, that is a lot even if they were just thugs and mercenaries.

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Reading the WSJ translation, I don't get why Bakugou would make that kind of face, he got angry when All Might implied that he was scared, but when All Might puts his hand on him he wasn't saying anything that might be implied as an insult, so.. something more inocent? as in "my hero is touching me!!"

Canyon Girl attack blew the horns and wig away from Kirishima and Todoroki.

Black Leg

@maxterdexter:

Reading the WSJ translation, I don't get why Bakugou would make that kind of face, he got angry when All Might implied that he was scared, but when All Might puts his hand on him he wasn't saying anything that might be implied as an insult, so.. something more inocent? as in "my hero is touching me!!"

I saw it as a chuffed face, he's trying not to smile so that he can keep the cool badass persona but he can't quite force it down because he's really happy that the Heroes came to rescue him

maxterdexter

Awwww. That would be nice.

I'm rereading the invasion. One of the panels who makes me doubt of Hakagure's inocense, http://bato.to/reader#747de13a5c067122_18 the two blank panels, I was too focused on these, while ignoring the words. I don't think that the mangaka would make All Might be this wrong about the student's character.

fana

I'm a little glad that my impression of Bakugou's reaction looking the raw was proven wrong by the translation. He's just trying to act tough.

I'm expecting a huge twist next chapter. It can't be that easy.

maxterdexter

Damnit, I feel like Hakagure is a very invisible red hering. I want to know how this goes to hell.

My guess is still that All for One steals the quirks of whomever is inside the buildings, levaing Endeavor and Canyon Girl, and the teachers, as the top pros of the city. Bakugou losing his quirk would make for a very interesting arc, and All Might is posed to die any minute now.