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      So the super special secret backstory Bakugo has on why he is a ginormous douchenozzle and the reason behind his entire rotten attitude is…he just doesn't like to lose? But he liked All Might a lot when he was a kid!~ That totally justifies his becoming a rotten bully.

      For a chapter titled Bakugo: The Origin, it sure was light on the origin part. Can we get the piece of backstory on whe he became an asshole? Did Deku bully him in preschool? Something that could possibly justify his character?

      I see what the author is going for her but the execution falls flat. Him finally working with Deku is supposed to be this big moment but it falls flat on its face because the emotional thrust of it is that he hates Deku for no reason to the point that it makes him sick to work with him. And I'm supposed to root for this guy, for this team up? The chapter sure frames it that way. Oh poor Bakugo, look at how much he had to sacrifice, he had to NOT BE AN ASSHOLE TO THIS GUY. What a hero!

      And before someone tells me that a good character doesn't have to be likable, I agree, the problem is that Bakugo is not interesting either. He's just this shallow shitheel that the manga keeps putting this emotional weight on without ever following through, at best he's very inconsistently written and at worst, he's just insufferable. Which is a shame because out of context I used to like his over the top antics before I read the whole series from the start and got the context of the character.

      All Might was cool, can we get more of him beating the shit out of Bakugo please?

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        I mean, it's like you're deliberately ignoring the blatant development that just happened.

        I'm not ignoring the development, I'm saying its shitty development because it doesnt help the character or the story.

        And its not like Bakugou was so against teamwork in general and this has become a huge milestone on his growth as a character, he simply hates Deku's guts.

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            A bully just can't be a bully
            Okay.
            Sorry that Bakugou wasn't beat as child or something and that he didn't apologize to Deku for all the wrongs he's done to him in this very chapter and readjust his values in life instead of just signaling the start of his growth towards being a fine hero.
            Keep winning Bakugou.

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              I still don't get the disdain baku has for deku. Grow the fuck up man, honestly.

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                I still don't get the disdain baku has for deku. Grow the fuck up man, honestly.

                Instantly.
                Grow up instantly Bakugou.

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                  I feel like we still have quite a bit of story to go and Bakugou still has quite a bit of growing to do. This is just the first step. I really hate it when people want characters to instantly "grow up". Things like this don't just suddenly go away and I really hate it when a story does that. It's the Eren/Shinji problem again. At least a common criticism against them and very missing-the-point criticism imo. How dare they have flaws - have emotions, be irrational, be stupid, when that's the point and very intentional within the story.

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                    Instantly.
                    Grow up instantly Bakugou.

                    No. I said grow the fuck up, I didn't say how fast. He needs to take a step first. He may have this chapter, but good god it's taken so long for him to do that and he even had to be forced.

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                      There was basically a whole arc he wasn't in focus. Of course it's taken long. 😕

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                        Reading the chapter again, Bakugou getting his origin chapter definitely could've used a more buildup. The issues he got over were his unwillingness to work with Deku and having something petty he'd be willing to lose over despite his mindset being "MUST ALWAYS WIN ALWAYS", but they don't seem to have ended in a realization like with Deku or Todoroki's hangups ("I can be a hero" and "I want to be a hero", respectively). He remembered thinking that the best hero always wins in the end as a kid, but that's it.

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                        So will Iida get his origin chapter or whatever the equivalent for accepting the name Ingenium is when he decides to get his arm fixed?

                        I'd assume a few chapters before, when he realizes that he's worthy of being a hero.

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                          Reading the chapter again, Bakugou getting his origin chapter definitely could've used a more buildup. The issues he got over were his unwillingness to work with Deku and having something petty he'd be willing to lose over despite his mindset being "MUST ALWAYS WIN ALWAYS", but they don't seem to have ended in a realization like with Deku or Todoroki's hangups ("I can be a hero" and "I want to be a hero", respectively). He remembered thinking that the best hero always wins in the end as a kid, but that's it.

                          I'd assume a few chapters before, when he realizes that he's worthy of being a hero.

                          Bakugou becoming more resolute in his desire to learn, working with Deku, and letting him use his power is enough for me.
                          Personally.

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                            The origin was a bit rushed, and should've been fleshed out more. But that being said, I still really liked the chapter. Admittedly, half the reason is because I adore Bakugo. If I had to list favorite characters in this series, he and Deku would tie for #1.

                            has a big reveal and then everyone feels sorry for him.

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                              For a chapter titled Bakugo: The Origin, it sure was light on the origin part. Can we get the piece of backstory on whe he became an asshole? Did Deku bully him in preschool? Something that could possibly justify his character?

                              It's all here.

                              http://manga.famatg.com/read/my_hero_academia/en/0/9/page/3

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                                @King:

                                It's all here.

                                http://manga.famatg.com/read/my_hero_academia/en/0/9/page/3

                                He's just an asshole, gotcha.

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                                  I'm not ignoring the development, I'm saying its shitty development because it doesnt help the character or the story.

                                  And its not like Bakugou was so against teamwork in general and this has become a huge milestone on his growth as a character, he simply hates Deku's guts.

                                  But thinking that he had some sort of secret backstory doesn't make sense because, well, Midoriya pretty much had already told it around 50 chapters ago. A character like this doesn't just become "redeemed" with a tragic backstory that excuses his bad actions.

                                  And it does help the character as he is "willing" to work together with the guy who is the target of his inferiority complex, contradicting pretty much what he said in the middle of the chapter.

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                                    Bakugou is an awful character but not as annoying as Mineta.

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                                      Bakugou is a great character but not as annoying as Mineta.

                                      I completely agree sir.

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                                        Lil' Kacchan is even more adorable than teen Kacchan and All Might makes a surprisingly terrifying villain with his great impression of the evil sensei.

                                        I think an important takeaway from this chapter is how frequently the author places characters in situations where their ideals are in conflict. This is easily the weakest/most obvious decision but it's an important step for a heel like Bakugou. Again, think about how his character compares to Vegeta and the way that both recognized the need for teamwork only when really pushed.

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                                          He's just an asshole, gotcha.

                                          Yeah, people rode on his dick, and then he started thinking that he was the biggest bang of the universe.

                                          I honestly don't know why people were thinking a character like this would have a sad backstory.

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                                            The problem is that's not interesting or compelling in the slightest. He's basically a bully fodder character who is one of the main leads of a shonen for some reason.

                                            I'm not asking for some generic sob story but at least something that would show him from a different perspective, something that would make him more three dimensional, something that shows that he's more than a shallow, one dimensional asshat, something that would make me…get him.

                                            But there is none of that, he is what he is, an asshole. Which wouldn't be nearly as bad if the author stopped treating him as this super deep character.

                                            Bakugo: The Origin, oh my will we finally unravel the multilayered person that is Bakugo? Guess not!

                                            It's funny, when Bakugo is just a one dimensional goof, he's funny and entertaining. It's when the author tries to give him complexity, that he falls apart.

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                                              The problem is that's not interesting or compelling in the slightest. He's basically a bully fodder character who is one of the main leads of a shonen for some reason.

                                              I'm not asking for some generic sob story but at least something that would show him from a different perspective, something that would make him more three dimensional, something that shows that he's more than a shallow, one dimensional asshat, something that would make me…get him.

                                              But there is none of that, he is what he is, an asshole. Which wouldn't be nearly as bad if the author stopped treating him as this super deep character.

                                              Bakugo: The Origin, oh my will we finally unravel the multilayered person that is Bakugo? Guess not!

                                              It's funny, when Bakugo is just a one dimensional goof, he's funny and entertaining. It's when the author tries to give him complexity, that he falls apart.

                                              The chapter was just the author showing why Bakugou is interested in being a hero. He has his own philosophy and reasons for it. His bad relationship with Midoriya was shown way earlier.

                                              I don't know why you said he was inconsistently written. People inflated his ego so much, and just now it's starting to deflate. He has accepted criticism (Momo), started respecting others (Uraraka) and just now he is willing to work together with the guy that makes him insecure.

                                              Bakugou is overall very divisive (he is a jerk after all), but it's not because of inconsistency.

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                                                I don't know why people expect some super tragic/whatever backstory with Bakugou when we were already shown everything we needed to see to understand why he is how he is, like 40 chapters ago.

                                                Yeah, Bakugou is an asshole… but I've always found the backbone of his personality to be that he a major narcissist - and it's easy to see why. He has excelled at everything from a very young age, ended up developing a super powerful quirk and has had adults/teachers and peers singing him nothing but praises the entire time.

                                                Thus leads to his inferiority complex of sorts. I think his thought process is that he's a prodigy and he knows it, everybody else around him knows it… so why is it that this scrub, Deku, who doesn't even have a quirk, could have the audacity to stand on the same stage as him - and pursue the same goal(Like, how dare he!). Basically he's spent his entire life viewing Deku as a pleb, and when said pleb attempts to treat him as an equal he finds it condescending.

                                                So yeah, Bakugou has been shown to be a narcissistic piece of shit asshole who believes himself to be the hero of this story; but he's still been shown to have some of that heroic-ness in him as well that we saw during the villain invasion arc when he intercepted Kurogiri from attacking Deku.

                                                Anyway I think recent developments are a step in the right direction.

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                                                  What King and Brotato said. Plus relatability =/= depth.

                                                  He'd be one dimensional if his entire purpose in the manga was to antagonize Deku and he acted the same all the time. But it's not. He's grown like everyone else.

                                                  You also seem to be mistaking said growth for inconsistency. Growth is how he's willing to work with Deku now. Inconsistency would be him going "WHY WOULD I WORK TOGETHER WITH A PIECE OF SHITLIKE YOU" to him in the next arc.

                                                  Plus if he were one-dimensional, we wouldn't have little tidbits like him listening in on Deku and Todoroki's conversation, or him defending Uraraka (by saying she wasn't fragile), or him not even meaning to hit Deku in the last chapter.

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                                                    What King and Brotato said. Plus relatability =/= depth.

                                                    He'd be one dimensional if his entire purpose in the manga was to antagonize Deku and he acted the same all the time. But it's not. He's grown like everyone else.

                                                    You also seem to be mistaking said growth for inconsistency. Growth is how he's willing to work with Deku now. Inconsistency would be him going "WHY WOULD I WORK TOGETHER WITH A PIECE OF SHITLIKE YOU" to him in the next arc.

                                                    Plus if he were one-dimensional, we wouldn't have little tidbits like him listening in on Deku and Todoroki's conversation, or him defending Uraraka (by saying she wasn't fragile), or him not even meaning to hit Deku in the last chapter.

                                                    And all that fits into his character, he doesn't like sympathy being thrown at him/looked down on and he values strength so he defends Uraraka.
                                                    His values were based around something as simple as beating everybody that seeing their deeper reasoning especially from Deku struck him.
                                                    Now that I think about it this chapter he said Hero's win, not that they beat everybody like he seems to mostly focus on, I wonder if that change in words is actually a thing.
                                                    And has the accidental hitting thing been confirmed? I believe it but I don't know if there's enough to support it.

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                                                      It's just me that finds interesting that an awful person wants to become a hero? Like, he could totally be a generic villain that hates everything, but, instead, he thinks it's fine to become a hero while he hates everything. But, in the process, reality will literally hit him hard as All Might's punches.

                                                      I also never saw Bakugou as begin a deep character. I thought it was clear that he would be more or less conditioned to Deku's growth, which makes Deku the deep character, and it's also clear how it's Deku that's changing people around (like Todoriki and somehow Iida).

                                                      Maybe it's not the best writing or execution, but I enjoy it. That's why I enjoyed Oumagadoki Zoo, it wasn't great because it had a lot of deep characters, but because the interactions between them looked somehow genuine.

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                                                        @GJardim:

                                                        It's just me that finds interesting that an awful person wants to become a hero? Like, he could totally be a generic villain that hates everything, but, instead, he thinks it's fine to become a hero while he hates everything. But, in the process, reality will literally hit him hard as All Might's punches.

                                                        I kinda like that so far we've been shown a wide range of characters that want to be heroes but don't really embody typical behaviors or powers. That one B class kid with minion mind control. He's out to prove that he can be a hero too despite how villainous his quirk is. His attitude seemed pretty shitty too.

                                                        But that's part of their hero education too isn't it? Grooming to work as heroes. They actually have observant teachers that try to correct attitudes before they wind up with full on villains.

                                                        Super hero stuff I find more interesting when you have your Superman/Captain Americas trying to work with your Batman/Ironmans.

                                                        This manga is also still pretty new. Maybe the author doesn't want Bakugou to be resolved yet. It's only their first year.

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                                                          Because he's not evil and All Might who was a hero always won so obviously that's what he would gravitate towards (he's not Garou).
                                                          And Bakugou has already did something Endeavor would never do and that's put his ego aside for the betterment of achieving victory even if it's through gritted teeth.

                                                          Anything to prove that? I doubt he could do so well on his job if he couldn't cooperate with people.

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                                                          Well that was a pretty weak chapter for an origin. I&F was abusive father and Deku was no way to realize his dream. I'm quite disapointed that chapter got to be also an origin. As for the development, I don't see how his crazy drive for winning is suppose to be seen as one, since it's been his biggest attribute since day(plus being Deku's Bully). He did cooperate fine in the cavalry where victory was at stake and he is doing it yet again. At best we could say he finally decide to put his "hate" for Deku on second place.

                                                          The rest was pretty fine. I like seeing BoomBoom try his best against All might. I like seeing him about to spill his guts after one punch from him and I even appreciate spending time inAll might''s mind and seeing him lecture the kids.

                                                          However the real hightlight of this chapter(for me), is Deku. His excessive admiration for Allmight is acknowledge, he finally stand up to Nitropalms even punching him, and more importantly, at the end of the chapter he is a full participant on attacking Allminght.

                                                          The chapter may be called Bakougou(?) but for standing up to his bully, impressing his mentor, and convincing his bully to attack the mentor he believes cannot be beatten, Deku stole the show all the way.

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                                                          It's just me that finds interesting that an awful person wants to become a hero? Like, he could totally be a generic villain that hates everything, but, instead, he thinks it's fine to become a hero while he hates everything. But, in the process, reality will literally hit him hard as All Might's punches.

                                                          I see nothing special about it. He doesn't hate everything. He hates having people be better than him. And hero is the most awesome job around in this day and age. That seems like the perfect job for someone so full of himself and who has talent for it.

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                                                            But thinking that he had some sort of secret backstory doesn't make sense because, well, Midoriya pretty much had already told it around 50 chapters ago. A character like this doesn't just become "redeemed" with a tragic backstory that excuses his bad actions.

                                                            And it does help the character as he is "willing" to work together with the guy who is the target of his inferiority complex, contradicting pretty much what he said in the middle of the chapter.

                                                            I would appreciate if you stop putting words in my mouth. I never, ever, said that Bakugou should have a tragic past or other cliche to excuse his behaviour.

                                                            My point is that Bakugou is being evaluated as a hero only on his fighting prowess, while his morals or empathy are completely ausent. If this were just another martial arts manga where being strong in the only thing that matters Bakugou wouldnt be so out of place as he is.

                                                            We already knew that Bakugou wanted to be the best, and this chapter didnt added more to the character if only to confirm his shallowness.

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                                                              Someone voted for Naruto in the popularity poll. Now that's my kind of humor.

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                                                                I would appreciate if you stop putting words in my mouth. I never, ever, said that Bakugou should have a tragic past or other cliche to excuse his behaviour.

                                                                My point is that Bakugou is being evaluated as a hero only on his fighting prowess, while his morals or empathy are completely ausent. If this were just another martial arts manga where being strong in the only thing that matters Bakugou wouldnt be so out of place as he is.

                                                                We already knew that Bakugou wanted to be the best, and this chapter didnt added more to the character if only to confirm his shallowness.

                                                                I thought that even though we didn't see the written tests they have to do, that Bakugou scoring as high as he did and that he was allowed in the academy at all meant he must have other traits we haven't been fully shown yet. I say "yet" because I he might even show a bit more backstory later. There's still some stuff not fully connected with him. Like, the years of Deku hating.

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                                                                    It's worth noting that we've never seen Kacchan in a real hero's role, since he played a villain in the first lesson and was just a rival competitor like all the rest. In other words, we don't know how hard he might work to save someone in danger. I could see him neglecting his charge as he only focues on beating the villain, but I could also see him taking relentless attacks and refusing to back down. This is kind of the first chance he's gotten to be a good guy.

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                                                                      I still want to see Bakugous parents before I draw to many conclusions.

                                                                      But it's good to see development into more of a hero. He's becoming Vegeta and I'm okay with that.

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                                                                        I still want to see Bakugous parents before I draw to many conclusions.

                                                                        But it's good to see development into more of a hero. He's becoming Vegeta and I'm okay with that.

                                                                        Parents in Shonen series seem to rare. Even if everything was normal at home lol.

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                                                                          Parents in Shonen series seem to rare. Even if everything was normal at home lol.

                                                                          We've seen Uraraka's and Shouto's parents so far, as well as Deku's mother. Normally I'd agree with you but MHA wouldn't have a problem looking at them.

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                                                                            Pfft, that popularity contest. Excellent to see the Zoo gang showing up, and props to Naruto and Deku's shoes! Love seeing those kinds of things happening. The spread was really well done too with the clothing designs. Always look forward to this one.

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                                                                              Have we seen any upper years so far? The manga makes it seem like only pros and 1st years exist so far…

                                                                              Originally Posted by Monkey King

                                                                              I want everyone to note, in about ten minutes of time, a Bosnian, a Saudi Arabian, an American, and a Brazilian all sat around millions of miles away from eachother discussing rubber pirate comic books from Japan.

                                                                              You've all had your 21st Century moment for the day, carry one.

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                                                                                Have we seen any upper years so far? The manga makes it seem like only pros and 1st years exist so far…

                                                                                We haven't seen any but it's not like the manga makes it seem like they don't exist. They only knew about the robot test because the class B girl asked one of the upper years. We hhaven't even full explored everyone in the first year yet so we gotta wait to see some hype ass senpai.

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                                                                                  Haha, those English popularity poll results.

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                                                                                    English Jump poll results:

                                                                                    ! English Jump Popularity Poll
                                                                                    ! 1. Izuku Midoriya
                                                                                    2. Tsuyu Asui
                                                                                    3. Ochako Uraraka
                                                                                    4. All Might
                                                                                    5. Katsuki Bakugo
                                                                                    6. Shoto Todoroki
                                                                                    7. Fumikage Tokoyami
                                                                                    8. Stain
                                                                                    9. Mei Hatsume (tied)
                                                                                    9. Mina Ashido (tied)
                                                                                    11. Gran Torino
                                                                                    12. Momo Yaoyorozu
                                                                                    13. Hitoshi Shinso (tied)
                                                                                    13. Tenya Ida (tied)
                                                                                    15. Denki Kaminari
                                                                                    16. Eijiro Kirishima
                                                                                    17. Minoru Mineta (tied)
                                                                                    17. Tomura Shigaraki (tied)
                                                                                    19. Midnight
                                                                                    20. Shota Aizawa

                                                                                    Good job Tsuyu! Glad Stain and Facepalm made it.

                                                                                    NNID: jervinnectar

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                                                                                      Have we seen any upper years so far? The manga makes it seem like only pros and 1st years exist so far…

                                                                                      Well, the entire previous 1-A class was expelled by Aizawa. And it's possible that more students were too.

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                                                                                        Parents in Shonen series seem to rare. Even if everything was normal at home lol.

                                                                                        we've seen Dekus mom, we saw Iidas family, Todoroki is well documented, uraraka talked to her parents on the phone

                                                                                        But the guy who has been around since chapter one weve gotten zero background besides idolizing All Might, being an asshole and his mom yelling at him to finish brushing his teeth.

                                                                                        I know it's a shonen but there may be more to his story. Or he could just be a spoiled brat like Prince Vegeta. I won't rule that out

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                                                                                          we've seen Dekus mom, we saw Iidas family, Todoroki is well documented, uraraka talked to her parents on the phone

                                                                                          But the guy who has been around since chapter one weve gotten zero background besides idolizing All Might, being an asshole and his mom yelling at him to finish brushing his teeth.

                                                                                          I know it's a shonen but there may be more to his story. Or he could just be a spoiled brat like Prince Vegeta. I won't rule that out

                                                                                          He doesn't appear to have a disturbed domestic life. His mom was just yelling at him for waking up late and being noisy, which is… perfectly normal.

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                                                                                            To clarify I meant that anime parents are rare in general not just this series. Like a Disney child having both parents alive start to finish. It's just so common that lack of family hardly seems like it matters.

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                                                                                              So the super special secret backstory Bakugo has on why he is a ginormous douchenozzle and the reason behind his entire rotten attitude is…he just doesn't like to lose? But he liked All Might a lot when he was a kid!~ That totally justifies his becoming a rotten bully.

                                                                                              For a chapter titled Bakugo: The Origin, it sure was light on the origin part. Can we get the piece of backstory on whe he became an asshole? Did Deku bully him in preschool? Something that could possibly justify his character?

                                                                                              I see what the author is going for her but the execution falls flat. Him finally working with Deku is supposed to be this big moment but it falls flat on its face because the emotional thrust of it is that he hates Deku for no reason to the point that it makes him sick to work with him. And I'm supposed to root for this guy, for this team up? The chapter sure frames it that way. Oh poor Bakugo, look at how much he had to sacrifice, he had to NOT BE AN ASSHOLE TO THIS GUY. What a hero!

                                                                                              And before someone tells me that a good character doesn't have to be likable, I agree, the problem is that Bakugo is not interesting either. He's just this shallow shitheel that the manga keeps putting this emotional weight on without ever following through, at best he's very inconsistently written and at worst, he's just insufferable. Which is a shame because out of context I used to like his over the top antics before I read the whole series from the start and got the context of the character.

                                                                                              All Might was cool, can we get more of him beating the shit out of Bakugo please?

                                                                                              I'm sorry but you're missing a lot of the thrust. It's fine that you like to hold magnifying glasses to things (you have a rep for kind of going overkill with your analysis, which is fine, no harm no foul), but a lot of Bakugou's character is not super developed, a lot of his bullying and hate for Deku comes from the fact that 1. Baku has a superiority complex (the root of which, we don't know, so I agree, seeing that would be great, but even if we don't see it immediately, there's still room for it later on). From chapter one, he hated the fact that "Deku with no individuality/quirk" would even mention himself in the same breadth as Bakugou. From wanting to be a hero, to wanting enter Yuuei, everything about Deku seems to aggravate Bakugou. In the real world, there are people like that, I'm sure you're aware. We're not all mind readers, and not everyone has a reason, let alone a good reason, for being the way they are or doing the things they do. Some people are in fact assholes, caused by a multitude of factors, and were we to have received some simply wrapped present explaining Bakugou's actions, that'd be kind of weak.

                                                                                              Todoroki got a big chunk of solid development that helped carve a pretty damn good character arc thus far. Maybe Horikoshi is still thinking up stuff or waiting to give more background. Seeing the results of this team-up will be more important than the backstory that pre-empted it. If anything, it added some more intrigue as to why Bakugou is the way he is. If HORI does not deliver, then, yes, it will be a missed opportunity but I still have hope.

                                                                                              2. To say that the execution falls flat when the kid is literally crying because he has to admit he needs to rely on Deku…. you're too hung up on things not progressing the way you want to acknowledge how moving that is. Unless you're specifically referring to the origin story and not the chapter as a whole. This is the 2nd time Deku has come to Bakugou's rescue, and that was when Deku didn't have a quirk. To see how much he's improving is more than likely pretty tough for someone with all of the expectations that Bakugou is carrying: living up to his power, idolizing All Might (which is a really nice touch, and more salt in the wound, considering Deku and All Might's relationship), among some other things. I could definitely use a refresher for the series since it's been about a year of serialization, but giving the first two Japanese volumes to several of my students and recommending the series as a whole to many other students to read, has been a refresher of sorts. but those aspects of Bakugou's character are great. Along with the concern he showed for Uraraka during the tournament, and the battle he had against Todoroki.

                                                                                              Someone else may have addressed some of things, I didn't have the time to check the rest of the thread. Just had 2 cents to throw in.

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                                                                                                I'm sorry but you're missing a lot of the thrust. It's fine that you like to hold magnifying glasses to things (you have a rep for kind of going overkill with your analysis, which is fine, no harm no foul), but a lot of Bakugou's character is not super developed, a lot of his bullying and hate for Deku comes from the fact that 1. Baku has a superiority complex (the root of which, we don't know, so I agree, seeing that would be great, but even if we don't see it immediately, there's still room for it later on). From chapter one, he hated the fact that "Deku with no individuality/quirk" would even mention himself in the same breadth as Bakugou. From wanting to be a hero, to wanting enter Yuuei, everything about Deku seems to aggravate Bakugou. In the real world, there are people like that, I'm sure you're aware. We're not all mind readers, and not everyone has a reason, let alone a good reason, for being the way they are or doing the things they do. Some people are in fact assholes, caused by a multitude of factors, and were we to have received some simply wrapped present explaining Bakugou's actions, that'd be kind of weak.

                                                                                                To add to this, Bakugou's hatred of Deku seems like an out-of-control behavior that grew from his desire to disassociate from everything weak. As a child, he saw how strong All Might was and decided that in order to be that kind of hero he couldn't be associated with anything weak, like a timid, quirkless Deku. I don't know if Kacchan was spoiled as a child, but usually that sort of confidence comes from an upbringing without any insurmountable challenges, meaning that Kacchan felt he could always handle what life threw at him. That certainly doesn't explain his combative behavior, but it does show he's more than a cardboard cutout.

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                                                                                                  Wrote this up real quick last week but forgot to post it; since the discussion came back up I figure I'll weigh in, even if some of this has already been said.

                                                                                                  What I'm seeing as the problem people have with the chapter is an expectation that an 'origin' will somehow justify Bakugou's actions and behavior. We only have three 'origin' chapters at the moment, but the very loose formula I'm seeing appears to be:

                                                                                                  • To an extent, when/why did they want to become a hero.

                                                                                                  • What idea is their 'hero' worldview based around.

                                                                                                  • Lastly, but implicitly, how or why have they strayed from or lost sight of that 'idea'.

                                                                                                    • Minor points, for what it's worth:

                                                                                                      • All three so far have the same narrative goal of being the top hero.
                                                                                                      • All three so far have been inspired by All Might.

                                                                                                  For Deku's origin story it was simply "to know no fear and save people with a smile", but his was a little unique in that it was his actions that made All Might remember and act. The two of them are linked, however, so it still works that there was an idea from Deku's past that had to be remembered in the present, and that idea formed the core of his 'hero' worldview. Next up was Todoroki's origin, his idea being "your power is your own", but as we know he lost sight of that idea and was limited by his hatred of his father. He had to remember the idea that inspired him, to take his power as his own, to move forward as a hero. Lastly we have Bakugou's origin, with his idea being "to always win, no matter what" which by itself is noble, as Deku pointed out. Bakugou lost sight of the noble origin, however, when his quirk manifested itself. He said something along the lines of "I must be great, and everyone else isn't, and Deku is the least of all"; he's confused winning with simply being the strongest or the best, and perhaps more importantly he views Deku as the symbol of weakness. Bakugou's is actually more complex because:

                                                                                                  1. As Medi-girl comments he has a great quirk, great talent, and is very smart, but is held back by rage and rash behavior– his urgency to prove he's the strongest stunts his growth.

                                                                                                  2. He views Deku as a symbol of weakness, and that "weakness" has been surpassing him, who should be "strongest"– his worldview is being shattered, and it makes him insecure.

                                                                                                  3. His warped idea to simply be the strongest comes immediately after the vehicle of "Stain"– Bakugou is (right now) a pretender, a fake hero, which will come in later I'm sure.

                                                                                                    • If he embraced his origins, to win no matter the odds against him, and let go of his complex (re: superiority and insecurity), then all that can change

                                                                                                  So just like Deku's origin reinforced his core idea and was the true start of him becoming a hero, so was both Todoroki's and Bakugou's. The title is both a callback to an idea from their past while also being symbolic of them truly starting down the path of a hero. It wasn't a big step for any of them, even if it was significant to each, it was just the first small step forward.

                                                                                                  Anyway, a lot of words to explain my simple takeaway from the chapter.

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                                                                                                    Agreed with most of what Brennen said.It makes sense.

                                                                                                    Still, Bakugou is a very toxic character and I can't help but detest him.

                                                                                                    The good thing about this is that the author seems to be aware of what he's doing with him, so I'll trust that he has something for the future.

                                                                                                    For now, I'm ready for him to become a villain and leave(hopefully Deku doesn't pull a Naruto) so that we can be done with his shit for awhile.

                                                                                                    HOW COME LUFFY NEVER KILLS AN ENEMY?

                                                                                                    ODA:ITS BECAUSE IN THAT ERA EVERYONE USES THEIR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS. FOR AN ENEMY WHEN THEIR DREAM HAS BEEN SHATTERED,IT IS AS PAINFUL AS DEATH,I BELIEVE FOR A PIRATE NOT TO KILL AN ENEMY , IT'S GIVING THEM A SECOND CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR DREAMS.

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                                                                                                      Did we had an Iida: The Origin yet?

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                                                                                                        No, only the three I referenced above. Looks like the corresponding volumes were named after those chapter titles as well. Todoroki's origin chapter explored his issue a little more in the following chapters, so judging by that we'll have a series of chapters that touch on Bakugou's needed changes before moving away from the topic for a while.

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