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    Chapter 736: " Executive Officer Diamante"

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    • CaptainKid
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      @Monkey:

      Are idiots like this still posting after last chapter or did I miss something?
      Like Eiichio Oda just made fun of you people and still this post is made? Wow.

      It's been so long since you've insulted I'm honored. I still don't see how Rebecca doesn't fit the wimpy/pacifist princess mold like Vivi and Shirahoshi (at least Vivi could attack). That said I may be an idiot but I have a valid opinion, much love to you my vastly superior intellectual overlord.

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        @CaptainKid:

        It's been so long since you've insulted I'm honored. I still don't see how Rebecca doesn't fit the wimpy/pacifist princess mold like Vivi and Shirahoshi (at least Vivi could attack). That said I may be an idiot but I have a valid opinion, much love to you my vastly superior intellectual overlord.

        I don't think you're an idiot bruh, but I will disagree with you. Especially with the comparisons between Shirarhosi (a character who wailed and screamed her way into being a threat) and Violet. Don't mistake Violet's passiveness for wimpiness. Going against Flamingo, she needs to be smart and passive.

        LA LA LAAAAAA. LA LA LA LA!(-Dearly Beloved)

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          @1PceXperience:

          I don't think you're an idiot bruh, but I will disagree with you. Especially with the comparisons between Shirarhosi (a character who wailed and screamed her way into being a threat) and Violet. Don't mistake Violet's passiveness for wimpiness. Going against Flamingo, she needs to be smart and passive.

          Nobody is talking about Violet, though.

          You mean Rebecca, right?

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            @King:

            Nobody is talking about Violet, though.

            You mean Rebecca, right?

            LOL, I'm sorry! LOL I'm dumb!

            LA LA LAAAAAA. LA LA LA LA!(-Dearly Beloved)

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              @1PceXperience:

              LOL, I'm sorry! LOL I'm dumb!

              Just out of curiosity, what happened to that whole thing about posting one line of Spanish text in each post until the end of the Dressrosa arc?

              At least, I think that was you, lol. If not, nevermind this.

              Praise our king, First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.

              If someone seriously claimed that Whitebeard was running a vibrator business as his second job you'd ignore him as a troll.

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                @krule274:

                Just out of curiosity, what happened to that whole thing about posting one line of Spanish text in each post until the end of the Dressrosa arc?

                At least, I think that was you, lol. If not, nevermind this.

                It was me. I want to take a break. I promise I'll start it up again.

                ¿lo entiendes? ~

                LA LA LAAAAAA. LA LA LA LA!(-Dearly Beloved)

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                  I am capable of those things yes

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                    @Blueno:

                    I am capable of those things yes

                    Capable of what?

                    Also, how much do you charge for door repairs?

                    LA LA LAAAAAA. LA LA LA LA!(-Dearly Beloved)

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                      @1PceXperience:

                      It was me. I want to take a break. I promise I'll start it up again.

                      ¿lo entiendes? ~

                      Excellent. Let the language fiesta continue.

                      Praise our king, First fist of the Sea, DonMarimo DoBuggino exploring Bonesbeard.

                      If someone seriously claimed that Whitebeard was running a vibrator business as his second job you'd ignore him as a troll.

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                        @1PceXperience:

                        Also, how much do you charge for door repairs?

                        Wrong person.

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                          @King:

                          Wrong person.

                          http://i.imgur.com/3ryhB7I.png

                          LoL! Blueno the doorman!

                          I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                            ^^He didn't get the joke.

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                              Hey guys, who do you think is the strongest character Zoro has ever defeated?

                              Kaku
                              Ryuma
                              Hyuozou
                              Monet

                              ¿¿??

                              I would say Ryuuma but Monet is a logia.

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                              Capable of what?

                              Also, how much do you charge for door repairs?

                              If's gold to see you again.

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                                I wonder if Diamante is going to use his power on the floor…? I feel like that would make things very difficult for everyone else if the floor was constantly moving. As for why Diamante would not have a problem with the floor rippling, he would keep solid the place that he was standing. I almost could imagine him making the floor attack the others (like spiking upwards and shit in the style of the Corrida Glave) while he stays stationary.

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                                  Pica might be a reference to a character in the film Labyrinth. This is Humongous:

                                  Spiky body, similar grimace, and, oh yeah, he basically walks out of a wall (well, it's a gate in the movie). There might be no connection whatsoever but it's what I thought of when I saw him, so I mention it here as a point of interest.

                                  We shall not cease from exploring

                                  And the end of all our exploring

                                  Will be to arrive where we started

                                  And know the place for the first time

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                                    Lmfao, you guys cracked me the shit up with the Blueno stuff ahaha.. "Opens door to Akainu private bathroom" Laughed so hard lol.

                                    Big MoM ate - 2012

                                    CC for nakama.

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                                      Daz was a straight badass though. But what you're saying is Kaku would straight kick the shit out of him physically till his organs gave out?

                                      That would be the gist of it, yeah. And all I'm saying is it's quite possible.

                                      Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                      Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                      It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                        That panel with Pika comin outta that wall is a reference to Han Solo: "OMG; it's Pikarbonite!" If Ryuma had not Brook's shadow but his own, he might have been the strongest enemy of Zoro so far. Though Hyozo on E.S. was pretty strong as well. Pre-TS-Zoro might had struggled with Hyozo.

                                        There are a lot of different opinions and views in this forum when it comes to One Piece.

                                        But can we all agree that Roger's ship, the Oro Jackson, had the best figurehead in the story so far?

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                                          @Roronoa:

                                          That panel with Pika comin outta that wall is a reference to Han Solo: "OMG; it's Pikarbonite!" If Ryuma had not Brook's shadow but his own, he might have been the strongest enemy of Zoro so far. Though Hyozo on E.S. was pretty strong as well. Pre-TS-Zoro might had struggled with Hyozo.

                                          That panel reminded me of Akira, I watched the movie, but I gotta get around to reading the manga sometime. I've heard it's pretty good.

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                                            @Monquito:

                                            Hey guys, who do you think is the strongest character Zoro has ever defeated?

                                            Kaku
                                            Ryuma
                                            Hyuozou
                                            Monet

                                            ¿¿??

                                            lol Ithought at first it was strongest he ever faced, I had to re-read that to catch the "Zoro has ever defeated" part.

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                                            I would say Ryuuma but Monet is a logia.

                                            Monet may have been logia, but she didn't give Zoro a much of a challenge like Ryuuma did. Just because she's logia doesn't mean she was the stronger one. As Pekoms pointed out against Caribou, the logia has to know how to use their powers in a fight but many get cocky
                                            So I have to say Ryuuma was stronger.

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                                              but ryuma has brooks shadow with him

                                              Spoiler:

                                              be my nakama!

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                                                @Katzztar:

                                                Monet may have been logia, but she didn't give Zoro a much of a challenge like Ryuuma did. Just because she's logia doesn't mean she was the stronger one. As Pekoms pointed out against Caribou, the logia has to know how to use their powers in a fight but many get cocky
                                                So I have to say Ryuuma was stronger.

                                                Pretty hard to compare fights that took place on either side of the time-skip. Monet knew how to use her powers, as she demonstrated against everyone else she fought with, and she was never cocky; she knew she was weaker than Zoro and Luffy from the get go, she was just led to believe by the circumstances that Zoro wasn't going to hurt her.

                                                So if Monet had fought Brookshadow!Ryuuma? There's nothing to go on save haki, and since it was Brook's shadow that determined how Ryuuma fought that probably means he wouldn't have been able to use CoA, rendering Monet functionally invincible.

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                                                  if it's the real ryuma (not brook's shadow), zoro would lose badly grabs popcorn

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                                                    So if Monet had fought Brookshadow!Ryuuma? There's nothing to go on save haki, and since it was Brook's shadow that determined how Ryuuma fought that probably means he wouldn't have been able to use CoA, rendering Monet functionally invincible.

                                                    Lol this is just funny. Youre judging Zoros strongest opponents by comparing them to each other whilst leaving Zoro out of the equation. It's like saying Ceaser is the strongest Luffy has fought because none of his previous opponents could beat him.

                                                    The Ryuuma fight was very short if i remember correctly. But yeah honestly the strongest opponen Zoro has fought and defeated would be between Daz Bones and Kaku.

                                                    Then again if Youre discussing who is the strongest opponent between all of them Monet is unfair because Logia. Id say determine it by physical and damaging strength

                                                    Originally Posted by Shadowgreed

                                                    People complain about everything, If Oda start jumping around, they complain, If Oda focus in one group for too long, they complain, If Oda decides to finally move things along with the little people, you also found people complaining.I'm tired of that crap.

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                                                      Can we call the confrontation with monet really a fight? Zoro wasn't even trying against monet and hyouzo was a joke. I'm pretty sure that kaku was the strongest guy that lost against zoro.

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                                                        If we remove Monet, I stand by Kaku, pretty much. He has the most going for him out of all Zoro's opponents. Strength, speed, close range, mid range, long range, creativity with an ability he started using at the beginning of the fight… I'd really like to see what kind of crazy shit he can pull off with his fruit after having it for 2 years.

                                                        I'd also like to see how Kaku's Rankyaku: Amane Dachi (the one he used to cut the tower in half and final attack against Zoro) would work against Daz Bones, since Lucci's Rankyaku: Gaicho was able to cleave steel on a marine battleship. CP9 were clearly on a different level compared to Baroque agents.

                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                          Is there a new chapter this week?

                                                          Originally Posted by Shadowgreed

                                                          People complain about everything, If Oda start jumping around, they complain, If Oda focus in one group for too long, they complain, If Oda decides to finally move things along with the little people, you also found people complaining.I'm tired of that crap.

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                                                            Lol this is just funny. Youre judging Zoros strongest opponents by comparing them to each other whilst leaving Zoro out of the equation. It's like saying Ceaser is the strongest Luffy has fought because none of his previous opponents could beat him.

                                                            The Ryuuma fight was very short if i remember correctly. But yeah honestly the strongest opponen Zoro has fought and defeated would be between Daz Bones and Kaku.

                                                            Then again if Youre discussing who is the strongest opponent between all of them Monet is unfair because Logia. Id say determine it by physical and damaging strength

                                                            The question was 'who do you think is the strongest character Zoro has defeated' so Zoro himself isn't really that relevant, especially since the timeskip makes him unreliable as a point of reference. We have no idea how Kaku or Daz Bones would fare against Monet since Zoro can't actually be used to compare them, but we can be fairly sure neither of them could use CoA, at least when Zoro beat them. I also don't think you can dismiss a fruit as an unfair advantage when comparing strength. I don't think this is a discussion about which of Zoro's opponents could bench the most, so all combat advantages should be accounted for. Logia invulnerability is one of them.

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                                                              It's not like we're taking away the advantages of either Daz Bones or Kaku's DF's so why take away Monet's?

                                                              With her logia defence alone she'd be invulnerable but also has all her snow barriers and stuff too.

                                                              Monet would win.

                                                              This is the classic useless OP power level discussion though.

                                                              On a purely physical level, based on sheer strength, speed etc. Kaku and Daz Boneas are clearly miles ahead of Monet, but she'd still beat them every time due to her abilities lol.

                                                              _"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron

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                                                                Heat is monets weakness tho.

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                                                                  Heat is monets weakness tho.

                                                                  Well Kaku or Daz would need a pretty big torch to beat her, since she could put out the flames if they aren't strong enough. Maybe if they had a fuel tank and a flame thrower on their back, the way Luffy had a water barrel and a squirt when he fought Crocodile.

                                                                  Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                  Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                  It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                    Wait, how on earth did we go from "pre TS Luffy /=/ Blackbeard" to Zoro's roster of opponents?

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                                                                      it's the usual waiting for spoilers/chapter disease

                                                                      人事を尽くして天命を待つ

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                                                                        There's always someone asking how the discussion went from this to that. As for this Zoro thing, Monquito wrote a random question and fish took the bait.

                                                                        Beats talking whether or not Pica is a logia or not, and whether Rebecca will get mera mera or not and how it would make any kind of sense.

                                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

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                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                          @Razh:

                                                                          There's always someone asking how the discussion went from this to that.

                                                                          Guilty as charged, then.

                                                                          Beats talking whether or not Pica is a logia or not, and whether Rebecca will get mera mera or not and how it would make any kind of sense.

                                                                          Um…I suppose? I've definitely heard enough "X will get Mera Mera because Y" for a lifetime.

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                                                                            Oh crap, I'm bored at work and just saw spoilers were out. Worst combination (since I stopped reading spoilers some time ago).

                                                                            Just curious, how many of you think that there are more than just 3 revolutionaries on Dressrosa? I'm kind of convinced it's more of a Sabo's personal mission and there aren't many of them there. However, it seems it's not only about that, otherwise they wouldn't have Hack investigating under Colliseum.
                                                                            For now, I'm inclined to believe it was just 3 of them and that revolutionaries haven't started any larger operation on Dressrosa yet. This would be more of a scouting mission.

                                                                            Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                            Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                            It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                              lol Ithought at first it was strongest he ever faced, I had to re-read that to catch the "Zoro has ever defeated" part.

                                                                              Monet may have been logia, but she didn't give Zoro a much of a challenge like Ryuuma did. Just because she's logia doesn't mean she was the stronger one. As Pekoms pointed out against Caribou, the logia has to know how to use their powers in a fight but many get cocky
                                                                              So I have to say Ryuuma was stronger.

                                                                              Well with snow bunnies and blizzard and weird dodging abilities I place her around Superbrook(Brook in Ryuuma) but she is a logia and thanks to that can gain new advantages in snow. So like I say I'm not sure.

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                                                                              Oh crap, I'm bored at work and just saw spoilers were out. Worst combination (since I stopped reading spoilers some time ago).

                                                                              Just curious, how many of you think that there are more than just 3 revolutionaries on Dressrosa? I'm kind of convinced it's more of a Sabo's personal mission and there aren't many of them there. However, it seems it's not only about that, otherwise they wouldn't have Hack investigating under Colliseum.
                                                                              For now, I'm inclined to believe it was just 3 of them and that revolutionaries haven't started any larger operation on Dressrosa yet. This would be more of a scouting mission.

                                                                              I imagine there is a ship waiting to send reinforcement if there's the need.

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                                                                                I think thera are a lot of revolutionaries, overthrowing DD for his past, positions and objectives is critical for the revolution imho

                                                                                "I'm simply an accident. Why take it all so seriously?"

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                                                                                  Well Kaku or Daz would need a pretty big torch to beat her, since she could put out the flames if they aren't strong enough. Maybe if they had a fuel tank and a flame thrower on their back, the way Luffy had a water barrel and a squirt when he fought Crocodile.

                                                                                  The question is who would win between them or who is the strongest? If it's the former than it's Monet but for the second her invulnerability to non-haki shouldn't factor.

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                                                                                    You can be as cocky as you want as long as your opponent can't use Haki.

                                                                                    Also, Ryuuma? Did Zoro even bleed in that fight? (No, he didn't)

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                                                                                    It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                      @Razh:

                                                                                      There's always someone asking how the discussion went from this to that. As for this Zoro thing, Monquito wrote a random question and fish took the bait.

                                                                                      Beats talking whether or not Pica is a logia or not, and whether Rebecca will get mera mera or not and how it would make any kind of sense.

                                                                                      At least those are relevant to the thread and don't involve power levels.

                                                                                      So yeah, it's not better at all.

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                                                                                        I imagine there is a ship waiting to send reinforcement if there's the need.

                                                                                        @Fraco:

                                                                                        I think thera are a lot of revolutionaries, overthrowing DD for his past, positions and objectives is critical for the revolution imho

                                                                                        Well, there probably is a ship out there, but revolutionaries aren't dangerous because they have a force than conquers countries. They are dangerous because they help people overthrow their own authorities.

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                                                                                        @King:

                                                                                        At least those are relevant to the thread and don't involve power levels.

                                                                                        So yeah, it's not better at all.

                                                                                        Matter of opinion. Personally, I never like talking about power levels. It's more about individual strength and weaknesses and how they would interact with other fighters. Hey, at least I'm trying to shift discussion to something more relevant.

                                                                                        Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                        Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                        It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                          @Razh:

                                                                                          Well, there probably is a ship out there, but revolutionaries aren't dangerous because they have a force than conquers countries. They are dangerous because they help people overthrow their own authorities.

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                                                                                          Matter of opinion. Personally, I never like talking about power levels. It's more about individual strength and weaknesses and how they would interact with other fighters. Hey, at least I'm trying to shift discussion to something more relevant.

                                                                                          You're doing God's work, Razh.

                                                                                          _"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron

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                                                                                            @Razh:

                                                                                            You can be as cocky as you want as long as your opponent can't use Haki.

                                                                                            Also, Ryuuma? Did Zoro even bleed in that fight? (No, he didn't)

                                                                                            Tell that to Crocodile and Enel 👅

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                                                                                              I have the trying to avoid looking at spoilers disease right now.

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                                                                                                @John:

                                                                                                I have the trying to avoid looking at spoilers disease right now.

                                                                                                Just manage to wait until tomorrow for chapter. Each week you wont look at spoilers it will be easier..
                                                                                                After like 2 months I hardly feel any need to take a look at them so it would be probably same for you. Read a book/ Play a game/ do your homework 😛
                                                                                                Just get some occupation.

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                                                                                                  @Razh:

                                                                                                  Well, there probably is a ship out there, but revolutionaries aren't dangerous because they have a force than conquers countries. They are dangerous because they help people overthrow their own authorities.

                                                                                                  The people of Dressrosa have no reason to rebel against Doula yet.

                                                                                                  I believe Koala and Hack are trying to reveal the underground to the population. Best way to do that is by finding the user of the Hobi Hobi no Mi. The Revolutionaries probably know that the toys are former citizens.

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                                                                                                    Tell that to Crocodile and Enel 👅

                                                                                                    Generally speaking, there are always fortunate exceptions 😆

                                                                                                    @King:

                                                                                                    The people of Dressrosa have no reason to rebel against Doula yet.

                                                                                                    I believe Koala and Hack are trying to reveal the underground to the population. Best way to do that is by finding the user of the Hobi Hobi no Mi. The Revolutionaries probably know that the toys are former citizens.

                                                                                                    As you say, yet. After the toys return to human form, there will be a lot of angry people.

                                                                                                    I'm not sure how Revolutionaries would know about toy situation, because of the memory thing. Of course, they may have become suspicious if a lot of people disappeared, especially if there were some Revolutionaries among them. Or they wanted to investigate the factory under Colliseum.

                                                                                                    Originally Posted by Outerspec

                                                                                                    Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                                                                                                    It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                                                                                      @Razh:

                                                                                                      I'm not sure how Revolutionaries would know about toy situation, because of the memory thing. Of course, they may have become suspicious if a lot of people disappeared, especially if there were some Revolutionaries among them. Or they wanted to investigate the factory under Colliseum.

                                                                                                      It would be very easy to know about the toy conspiracy if they knew about the Hobi Hobi no Mi in the first place (there's a DF encyclopedia out there). Then they would just need to look at a place filled with living toys and put two and two together.

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                                                                                                        @1PceXperience:

                                                                                                        I don't think you're an idiot bruh, but I will disagree with you. Especially with the comparisons between Shirarhosi (a character who wailed and screamed her way into being a threat) and Violet. Don't mistake Violet's passiveness for wimpiness. Going against Flamingo, she needs to be smart and passive.

                                                                                                        I was saying Rebecca was like Shirahoshi, Violet is different, she has redeemable qualities. She at least fights while Rebecca refuses to even attack someone.

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