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      Openings and Endings are an important part of every anime. They set the mood and can be a big part of making people interested in the show. I know a lot of people skip the OP and ED after they've seen it once when they're watching a series, but I never do. I love anime songs!

      But there are times when the song just doesn't seem to fit the show. Whether it's a soaring epic theme for a hum-drum pile of mediocrity or a mind-numbingly dull song for an amazing ride, or a song that just plain doesn't fit, it seems to happen quite often.

      Because I'm an anime song addict I'd like to use this thread to let everyone showcase songs that they just didn't feel fit right with an anime. I'll divide these into three categories, and give some examples of each from my own experience.

      Songs you Like from Shows you Don't Remember folks, anime is subjective. Saying you don't like a show isn't the same as saying it is bad or horrible. It just means you didn't like it. But maybe you liked the song. If your level of song enjoyment was greater than your level of anime enjoyment, the song fits in this category. For example:

      Nee, from Hiiro no Kakera is one of my favorite anime openings. I have it on my iPod and listen to it constantly. But, while I'm not opposed to bishi reverse-harems on principle, I didn't like Hiiro no Kakera even a little bit. As much as the awesome song made me want to like the show it was attached to, now it's hard to even watch the opening without wincing. The song doesn't even really fit with the video… I would almost believe it was a mash-up someone did using the opening from another show. But no, it's just a conundrum.

      I didn't finish watching Fate/Stay, and had no interest in Fate/Zero. Then I watched this opening (just this one not the first one) and it sold me on watching the show. I mean yeah there's not much going on in the video but toward the end there there were strong-looking women characters! Full of drive and purpose and doing things! Riding motorcycles and dressing in suits! Plus people I met on random anime chatrooms told me it was the best anime that had been made in decades! They couldn't all be wrong!
      Whether they are or not is a matter of opinion but in my opinion the misogyny in Fate/Zero left a horrible taste in my mouth that wasn't washed away by the 'twist' at the end. Yet I still listen to the song all the time and wish it came from a show that didn't turn my stomach quite so much.

      Songs you Don't Like from Shows you Did Ever try showing a show to a guy but like you hope he skips the opening because if he sees that he's not going to want to watch the series? And you know if he could just look past that, he would totally enjoy the awesome story hidden behind it?
      Yeah, me too.

      Not only did Spiral get shafted by dropping off right before the best story arc in the manga, it also got one of the most annoying OPs I've ever heard. If the opening phrase of the song doesn't make your ears bleed when she hits that high note, you may just be deaf. Not only that but why are we listening to cheery girl pop in a murder mystery series involving human experiments on to make assassin children? The Gunslinger Girl openings would have fit MUCH MUCH better.
      That said Spiral is still a great series you should watch it the Rio arc carries the entire show go watch now.

      Everything by Adachi Mitsuru (yes including Miyuki) is great. The songs are also usually pretty amazing, with the themes from Touch, H2 and Miyuki still holding spots of fame in Japanese hearts. Even if they didn't watch the anime, they knew the songs. Then comes Cross Game, which was another really solid anime based on a solid Adachi manga… too bad the opening was lame as hell. I love how it just trails off at the end like the guy doesn't have anything left to say '... summer rain...' and a half-hearted tie-up thingy to end the song. It's bizarre because every single ending theme from the show is great. Really great, in fact. Just the opening go the short straw. Best thing about it? They don't change it during the entire 52 episode run.

      Completely Unfitting Songs Naw dude forget good or bad, these songs just plain don't fit. Did the people who made the opening know anything about the show they were slapping it on? Or did they deliberately try to fool us? The world may never know. But in the meantime, here's some completely unfitting openings:

      We used to tell new guys in our anime club that Narutaru was by the same creator as Naruto and that it was a cross between Naruto and Digimon. 'It starts out a little girly but just watch a few episodes and it gets better!'

      They'd come to school after a sleepless night of having slammed the entire series and glare at us from the sunken sockets of their soul-less eyes.


      Quick guys try to guess what kind of anime Kure-nai is using only the above opening!

      Did you guess

      ! a gritty, violent series about a bodyguard saved from child slavery and whose job is to now protect a child from her inbred hyper-rich family that's trying to force her to marry her own older brother?
      If you did: either you already knew what the series was… or there's something seriously freaking wrong with you.

      Post your own! I'll add more as the thread goes along. I have tons more where these came from.

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        Nice idea for a thread, though at least for now, i can´t really contribute any examples but something piqued my interest, namely that Fate/Zero is a misogynistic show. Can you elaborate since i don´t really agree?

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          ^I second that. F/Z is a masterpiece and probably the best anime I've ever watched.

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            Nice idea for a thread, though at least for now, i can´t really contribute any examples but something piqued my interest, namely that Fate/Zero is a misogynistic show. Can you elaborate since i don´t really agree?

            Again this is purely a subjective opinion so maybe I just looked at the story from a different angle, but here's what I saw:

            ! A guy gives his daughter away to another guy knowing full well that the other guy is going to insect rape her, this happens… on screen... a lot... Another guy is all set to use either his own wife or his daughter as a sacrifice for some ritual thing. Another guy deliberately abuses a woman knight's code of honor for his own gain, nearly driving her crazy with how he completely mis-uses her and holds her back. Plus there's the fact that the third guy killed his own mentor who was a woman. Now that was necessary, I understand that (the last one I mean), but the fact that he doesn't even bother trying to tell her that he's killing her for the good of the people struck me as singularly and deliberately cruel.

            I may have a skewed perspective but to me it was just a series of horrible things a bunch of navel-gazing guys were doing to the really nice girls who hung out with them for no reason I could fathom. Also a brief interlude with two of the best side characters ever forever (Rider and his master) and an ending that mocks the watcher for taking it seriously

            ! namely the fact that the Grail can't actually do anything humans can't conceive of thus making the entire point moot from the very beginning.

            However I'm not the only one who thinks the writer of Fate/Zero takes it too far some times. The writer of Fate/Stay actually had to reign the other writer in at one point, editing part of one of the Fate/Zero novels and, allegedly, asking something to the effect of 'Is there no blood in your veins?' due to the cruelty shown in one of the scenes written by the guy. Specifically a scene involving the girl from the first scenario in the spoilers.

            … when he read the history of said girl, the writer of Fate/Zero was excited to be writing about a world that would do horrible things to a girl like her.

            So. That. That is why I found Fate/Zero to be a little too misogynistic for my taste.
            Also, please keep in mind that misogynistic is not synonymous with 'poorly made'. It just means it's mean to women.

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              @Getsuya:

              We used to tell new guys in our anime club that Narutaru was by the same creator as Naruto and that it was a cross between Naruto and Digimon. 'It starts out a little girly but just watch a few episodes and it gets better!'

              Oh my word you are horrible. but hilarious

              Anyway in the line of unfitting songs I'd thought you'd have gone and posted this instead of the Kurenai OP:

              Since this and Narutaru OP vids are the ones with huge amounts of "IT'S A TRAP TRAP TRAP" comments

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                I can guess why he or she would call it mysogynistic. Just like anyone who watched it. But that's not to say I agree (completely).

                Also, let's not turn this into Fate/Zero discussion and what is good and what is bad about it.

                For me, the first opening for Legend of The Legendary Heroes is completely off. Gives an impression of a lighthearted adventure, or something along the line.

                !

                You can just tell how it's based on a visual novel and much was probably lost in translation. Was really disappointed with the anime, for several reasons.
                But hey, at least the second opening was awesome and more to the tune:

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                Originally Posted by Outerspec

                Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                  Well, Seiba is best housewaifu isn't a wellknown phrase in some circles without reason. It's a problem many LN/Vn share, which largely stems from their main consumer group and their morals. F/Z is a decent anime, but not outstanding in a "10/10 Best anime evar" way. That is reserved for titles like LotGH, Rose of Versailles and the like.

                  The problem I have with anime opening in general is imho the very formulaic way they design them. 99% have the same tired J-Pop sounds and are often shot from the same angles!


                  Come on, anime industry: Western openings are often formulaic to an extent as well, but not like this.

                  If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. - _Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

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                    Oh my word you are horrible. but hilarious

                    Eh. I was paying it forward. The guys did it to me when I joined the club too.
                    I think it would solve things if they didn't use the cutesy short name Narutaru but rather the full actual name which translates to something like 'The Husk of a Star/Sphere Children'.

                    I'm glad they got their act together and gave his other psychotic manga a much more fitting OP:

                    Oh speaking of uninstalling things, another from the 'Openings I hate from anime I like':

                    Dennou Coil's OP isn't bad, and in fact would probably fit fairly well if it was only used for the last few eps, but instead right from the beginning you get this. It has its moments but overall it's kind of a boring song, and Dennou Coil has such a mind-blowing premise and intricate plot that it really deserved something more solid and interesting… especially when you consider the fact that, judging by the idiotic filler eps, this show was marketed to kids.

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                      @Getsuya:

                      Again this is purely a subjective opinion so maybe I just looked at the story from a different angle, but here's what I saw:

                      ! A guy gives his daughter away to another guy knowing full well that the other guy is going to insect rape her, this happens… on screen... a lot... Another guy is all set to use either his own wife or his daughter as a sacrifice for some ritual thing. Another guy deliberately abuses a woman knight's code of honor for his own gain, nearly driving her crazy with how he completely mis-uses her and holds her back. Plus there's the fact that the third guy killed his own mentor who was a woman. Now that was necessary, I understand that (the last one I mean), but the fact that he doesn't even bother trying to tell her that he's killing her for the good of the people struck me as singularly and deliberately cruel.

                      I may have a skewed perspective but to me it was just a series of horrible things a bunch of navel-gazing guys were doing to the really nice girls who hung out with them for no reason I could fathom. Also a brief interlude with two of the best side characters ever forever (Rider and his master) and an ending that mocks the watcher for taking it seriously

                      ! namely the fact that the Grail can't actually do anything humans can't conceive of thus making the entire point moot from the very beginning.

                      However I'm not the only one who thinks the writer of Fate/Zero takes it too far some times. The writer of Fate/Stay actually had to reign the other writer in at one point, editing part of one of the Fate/Zero novels and, allegedly, asking something to the effect of 'Is there no blood in your veins?' due to the cruelty shown in one of the scenes written by the guy. Specifically a scene involving the girl from the first scenario in the spoilers.

                      … when he read the history of said girl, the writer of Fate/Zero was excited to be writing about a world that would do horrible things to a girl like her.

                      So. That. That is why I found Fate/Zero to be a little too misogynistic for my taste.
                      Also, please keep in mind that misogynistic is not synonymous with 'poorly made'. It just means it's mean to women.

                      A well-written response making your point perfectly clear. Now that is how criticism is supposed to be.

                      I'm not too surprised that something like that (the missing blood in his veins) would be said to Gen Urobuchi. He wrote some outstanding stories, but he can be one cruel bastard when it comes to the treatment of his characters.

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                        The first ED fits Shin Mazinger Z like a glove…


                        …a glove put on a foot.

                        This a show with crazy scientists, giant robots, more giant robots, giant robots shooting rocket fists, rocket fists ridden by crazy scientists, giant robots transforming into bigger rocket fists, awesome ruthless lady masterminding a war effort against evil, awesomest villain minion evah, evil talking heads and dudes with afros riding lions into battle, a troupe of superhuman badasses including a grandma who kills stuff with monofilament wire, ZEUS (who's a ginormous golden alien man of great badassery), shocking plot twists, double/triple/quadriple-crossings and behind the scenes sceming from all parties involved, tons of classic Imagawa-style theatrical super-dramatism...

                        ...and a crazy agitated narrator who narrates all this insanity at the top of his lungs.

                        So, yeah, I guess you can see where I'm coming from. The opening though, is dead on:

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                          The first ED fits Shin Mazinger Z like a glove…

                          Dang. I've gotta admit that's one of the worst I've seen.

                          For off-genre OPs how about the OP for a horror anthology aimed to depict the ugliness of humankind

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                          How about let's have an opening that sounds like erotic funk and that showcases a character that really only plays a secondary role in the plot?
                          It'd be like if Jigoku Shoujo's opening was Bad Touch and showcased the eye-guy.

                          Also since you mentioned Mazinger, let's not forget the completely unfathomable opening of Casshern Sins:

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                          Could we maybe, you know, see what the anime looks like? At some point? Please?
                          You'd think it was an ED, but no. In fact the ED is pretty much perfect for the series (well… to a point)

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                            "Yay!"

                            Also I'll be adding more while I try to remember them.

                            This is one of the openings that I would always skip while watching Toradora.I like the second opening and both endings, but I can't stand this one and always skipped.

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                            I couldn't find the opening alone (with working sound) so I'll link to an episode of Arakawa Under the Bridge x Bridge. Seems like it'll not start at the time I wanted, so just skip to 0:40. Another example of an opening that I can't stand, mainly because of the song. It made me miss the other season's openings, because I enjoyed them.

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                              "Yay!"

                              Also I'll be adding more while I try to remember them.

                              Lol, while I like that song, first part of the OP looks like some kind of Dr. Doolitle with weird animals. Then suddenly there's dark jail and big battle and wtf does part one have to do with part two? There were also some spoilers there.

                              Originally Posted by Outerspec

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                              It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                                "Yay!"

                                Also I'll be adding more while I try to remember them.

                                I knew this one would show up in this thread. I just bought the One Piece OP/ED collection and have been listening to them all back to back lately. This is the only one that I always skip. Even in a vacuum, if I didn't know a thing about One Piece it's still just a crappy generic song.

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                                  @Getsuya:

                                  Again this is purely a subjective opinion so maybe I just looked at the story from a different angle, but here's what I saw:

                                  ! A guy gives his daughter away to another guy knowing full well that the other guy is going to insect rape her, this happens… on screen... a lot... Another guy is all set to use either his own wife or his daughter as a sacrifice for some ritual thing. Another guy deliberately abuses a woman knight's code of honor for his own gain, nearly driving her crazy with how he completely mis-uses her and holds her back. Plus there's the fact that the third guy killed his own mentor who was a woman. Now that was necessary, I understand that (the last one I mean), but the fact that he doesn't even bother trying to tell her that he's killing her for the good of the people struck me as singularly and deliberately cruel.

                                  I may have a skewed perspective but to me it was just a series of horrible things a bunch of navel-gazing guys were doing to the really nice girls who hung out with them for no reason I could fathom. Also a brief interlude with two of the best side characters ever forever (Rider and his master) and an ending that mocks the watcher for taking it seriously

                                  ! namely the fact that the Grail can't actually do anything humans can't conceive of thus making the entire point moot from the very beginning.

                                  However I'm not the only one who thinks the writer of Fate/Zero takes it too far some times. The writer of Fate/Stay actually had to reign the other writer in at one point, editing part of one of the Fate/Zero novels and, allegedly, asking something to the effect of 'Is there no blood in your veins?' due to the cruelty shown in one of the scenes written by the guy. Specifically a scene involving the girl from the first scenario in the spoilers.

                                  … when he read the history of said girl, the writer of Fate/Zero was excited to be writing about a world that would do horrible things to a girl like her.

                                  So. That. That is why I found Fate/Zero to be a little too misogynistic for my taste.
                                  Also, please keep in mind that misogynistic is not synonymous with 'poorly made'. It just means it's mean to women.

                                  First off, thanks for the long and detailed answer making your point. It seems like an empty phrase but i really appreciate an honest answer like this.
                                  Having said that, i can´t help but disagree but before, let me say that if you are bothered that this is discussed in this thread which actually has a different purpose than being a discussion thread for F/Z, i will stop then.

                                  ! First of all, we should differentiate between a misogynistic show and a show that has misogynistic characters, at least that is a distinction i would make and emphasize. The latter certainly has a legitimacy for me, of course depending how it deals with with those character, while the former, being really discriminating towards women in one fashion or the other, is not necessarily something i would spend my time on. Of course there is the issue of an author speaking his opinions through his characters but let´s put that aside for now since it has no relation to F/Z, at least in terms of misogyny, it applies to other things though.
                                  ! I really can´t agree with F/Z being a misogynistic show and let me tell you why. Certainly, the examples you picked and explained are cruel, i really don´t know anybody who would disagree with that but the point is, those cruel fates do not happen only to the females, do they? Of course Saber´s (female knight) chivalry and, how you called it, knight´s code of honor gets toyed with but the same happens to a male character (lancer, the one with the lance lol) in an even crueler way. The little girl (Sakura) gets insect raped, but the same happens to the son of the household where it happens. Of course the third guy kills his mentor for the greater good but he does the same to his father. Heck, one could argue that the cruelest fate belongs to the protagonist who, most of his life, believed in Consequentialism, while his beliefs are ultimately crushed at the end when he indirectly kills many people while actually trying to eradicate war and suffering in general.
                                  To cut off here, the anime/novel is certainly cruel, but it is cruel to men and women at the same degree.
                                  Of course there is the issue of lacking strong female characters except Saber but i reckon it has more to do with the lack of female, historical figures and heroes.
                                  I would also argue that there are not really any misogynistic character in F/Z. The guy (Tokiomi) who gives his daughter away to be mistreated does not so because he has anything against his daughter or treats her differently, he does so because of his greed for more knowledge and power (something that is actually, indirectly criticized in the show btw). Rider calls Saber "little
                                  girl" in a little disrespectful way not because she is a female (minus the girl part of course 😄) but because she and her views are too immature in his opinion.
                                  ! To conclude this, F/Z´s main purpose was to illustrate the author´s nihilistic views. It has done so by showing several different characters with different ideologies and opinions and crush them in a rather cruel way (heck even the grail´s purpose as a false miracle artifact is to that end), not to say that there is nothing that is not depressing in F/Z, mostly represented by Rider and his master.

                                  Finally, not to be completely off-topic, some examples from me, it should be noted though that i am mostly referring to the moot that is delivered by the songs, since i don´t know Japanese, i have no idea about the lyrics:

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                                    "Yay!"

                                    Also I'll be adding more while I try to remember them.

                                    Please, don't make me start with "Crazy Rainbow Star".

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                                    This is the biggest joke they could make.

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                                      Toriko's endings. Most of them are completely unfitting.

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                                        Please, don't make me start with "Crazy Rainbow Star".

                                        I won't. But Kaze wo Blablabla surpassed it by a mile.

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                                          from Naruto for sure
                                          (also the most unfitting and aslo annoyings songs ever )


                                          This here is probably worst of all time

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                                            Jitensha]

                                            JITENSHA JITENSHA JITENSHA JITENSHA JITENSHA JITENSHA JITENSHA JITE

                                            Wow. Yeah. Those Naruto songs made me laugh.
                                            They also reminded me of Inazuma Eleven. I don't know about the anime, but the games have had pretty bad luck with their openings. I don't know who thought repeating really stupid pointless phrases over and over would make for exciting magical BS soccer game openings.

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                                            This one's not that horrible, except half of it is either 'omedetou' or 'arigatou'. Oh, and I love how they think that since it's a compilation everyone who buys it already knows the story of the first three games. 'Hope you didn't want any tension during the first game, since we spoil the crap out of it in the opening animation'

                                            But the earlier openings were just… eurgh...

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                                            But I've done too many OPs now and not enough EDs. One of my personal favorite worst EDs of all time came at the ending of the first series of Saki… in which they show previews of the next arc of the story... an arc that only recently got animated, several years later. Thanks guys. Thanks.

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                                            3/4ths of the girls shown in that video never appear in the actual series, and none of the scenes do. Those are all things that would come later. MUCH MUCH later. Even worse; before animating that arc they actually went and animated the side-story Saki series first before going back and finally doing this tournament. I understand that the manga-ka is releasing stuff slow as molasses so they didn't want to catch up too fast, but that doesn't really excuse putting cliffhanger spoilers in the final ending of the main series.

                                            Oh hey and here's another 'Song I like from show I don't':

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                                            Strike Witches was one of my guilty pleasures. I loved the concept of an all-female military show, even if it was stupid at times and fanservicy forever. But at least I could say that the first season had an okay plot when all was said and done. Not so Season 2. Season 2 was largely unwatchable, to me. And yet somehow it got an even better opening than Season 1, which was one of my favorite OPs from that year.

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                                              Even though I like the song, I'm nominating Devil Survivor 2: The Animation's opening:

                                              The nature of the lyrics and the uplifting music fit the themes of the game, discovering oneself and persevering in a world that's gone to hell in order to strive for a better tomorrow, quite well, so why am I mentioning it? Note I said the game, not the anime. It sounds like the episode count killed what the writers had in mind, so instead of being thematically faithful to the game the characters of the anime were instead mostly ineffectual and died off in droves despite the main conceit of the Devil Survivor series being the ability to say "screw destiny!" and saving people from their preordained deaths.

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                                                Let's all be honest here:

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                                                  Let's all be honest here:

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                                                  How so? I don't know about the style of music or anything but at least thematically it fits with the whole idea of keeping the dreams of your childhood close and cherishing memories which makes a lot sense for One Piece early on. Not too annoying a song either. If anything, ending 4 struck me as unfitting and irritating.

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                                                    How so? I don't know about the style of music or anything but at least thematically it fits with the whole idea of keeping the dreams of your childhood close and cherishing memories which makes a lot sense for One Piece early on. Not too annoying a song either. If anything, ending 4 struck me as unfitting and irritating.

                                                    Don't take me wrong, the song is pretty good itself, but you would never expect such a mellow and static ending for something as lively as One Piece.

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                                                      Rurouni Kenshin.

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                                                        Let's all be honest here:

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                                                        go to hell, this is the best OP song period

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                                                          Groooooovin maaagiiiiic

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                                                            Okay so here's two entries that don't have horrible songs, just bad opening videos.

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                                                            Careful epileptics! Who on Earth thought it was a good idea to flash from scene to scene like that? They did something similar in the opening to Chu-ni whateverthehell recently. Good song, though, and a solid early romcom despite the fact that I hate romcoms.

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                                                            The best part of this opening is how there is absolutely nothing for the first 30 seconds! /facetious
                                                            Again not a bad show or song, just makes me wonder what the hell they were thinking. Any of the generic crap from that 'every anime OP ever' video would have fit the bill instead of just having the title flash at us for that long.

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                                                              This one definitely seems like a personal opinion, but when I saw this opening I was like "WTF is this?!"

                                                              There was another anime I remember seeing having a heavy metal opening but it didn't fit the tone of the show at all. I'm not really remembering what it was…

                                                              EDIT: Wow, haha, it's been forever since I posted a Youtube video I was still posting it the old tag way

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                                                                Gunslinger Girl the first series was great. It ended at a perfect spot. The viewer was left with a sense of the fleeting beauty of life.

                                                                Then, for some reason, they decided it needed another season. I never sat through il teatrino because the art was bland and the story arc they were covering was one I didn't particularly have any interest in from the manga. I guess the only good thing I can say about it is at least they didn't get to the REALLY stupid part of the manga. Man that manga got horrible and died painfully. Nice video and song, though. I'm glad they only showed girls' hands instead of trying to actually get a whole girl trying to be one of the Gunslinger Girls. They did that in the fandisc; they had a little video of an actual tween girl holding a pistol and trying to be Henrietta but it really doesn't work. For those of you who aren't aware; real children look absolutely nothing like anime children and when they try to mix the two you get creepiness x100.

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                                                                  Soon as I saw this thread, the thing that immediately came to mind was Attack on Titan/Shingeki no Kyojin. In the "just plain unfitting"-category, what with both openings being epic, hot-blooded optimistic rock-songs showing humanity fighting back against the titular Titans… Now yes, the show is about humanity fighting back against the Titans, but songs this badass do not fit at all for a series as bleak as this one. I mean, the second opening

                                                                  ! literally starts of with a German anthem about "Our first triumph"… True, it did come in right after they finished an arc where humanity did manage to win a battle against the Titans for the first time… but the battle was still so devastating on both sides that there was no rejoicing over this feat whatsoever. I think there was more hopefulness in those first 10 seconds of the song than there had been in the entire anime up to that point.

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                                                                    Groooooovin maaagiiiiic

                                                                    Oddly enough, I never found the OP to be unfitting for Top 2, and likely it's because in the back of my head I kinda felt it a part of the series tradition.
                                                                    Considering that Top 1's OP was NoriP's idol song, despite the hard boiled storyline, and both series featuring lively, humanized female leads.

                                                                    …I want the old Gainax back to their amazing glory. :sad:

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                                                                      …I want the old Gainax back to their amazing glory. :sad:

                                                                      You can only hope that Trigger develops into that.

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                                                                        Rurouni Kenshin.

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                                                                        HEAVY METAL GUITAR RIFF

                                                                        into jangly j pop

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                                                                          Oddly enough, I never found the OP to be unfitting for Top 2, and likely it's because in the back of my head I kinda felt it a part of the series tradition.
                                                                          Considering that Top 1's OP was NoriP's idol song, despite the hard boiled storyline, and both series featuring lively, humanized female leads.

                                                                          …I want the old Gainax back to their amazing glory. :sad:

                                                                          Yeah man Gainax needs to go back to making stuff like KonoMini (Good OP from a show I didn't like by the way):

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                                                                          and Puchi Puri Yuushi

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                                                                          The truth is, for every big hit Gainax made they also made at least 4 or 5 mediocre shows that got lost in the rank and file of every other anime out there. People just tend to remember the real big highs and the real deep lows that companies hit, thus why people hate on Studio Deen and J.C. Staff so much recently. I'm sure after a few more middle-of-the-road shows Gainax will put out another big hit, and maybe in a few years people won't whine whenever an anime gets assigned to Deen or JC because they'll be riding another big wave of good releases.

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                                                                            Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica op? I think it was even stated that the point was to surprise the viewer, and that's why the first 2 episodes were relatively lighthearted, too.

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                                                                              Yeah man Gainax needs to go back to making stuff like KonoMini (Good OP from a show I didn't like by the way):

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                                                                              and Puchi Puri Yuushi

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                                                                              The truth is, for every big hit Gainax made they also made at least 4 or 5 mediocre shows that got lost in the rank and file of every other anime out there. People just tend to remember the real big highs and the real deep lows that companies hit, thus why people hate on Studio Deen and J.C. Staff so much recently. I'm sure after a few more middle-of-the-road shows Gainax will put out another big hit, and maybe in a few years people won't whine whenever an anime gets assigned to Deen or JC because they'll be riding another big wave of good releases.

                                                                              Uh, no. I'm a lot older than you think, son.
                                                                              Don't ever pull this "meh people are new plebs who don't remember shit" card with me.
                                                                              You know not who you're talking to_. _:getlost:

                                                                              All the way though the late 80s to late 90s, Gainax hardly ever made mediocre anime, and kept pumping out masterpieces one after another.
                                                                              From the amature days with Daicon 3/4 OP to their debut with Honneamise to Top to Nadia to Eva, Karekano, Gainax was consistently good.

                                                                              All the shit you're listing are stuff in the post 2000s, long after the era I'm talking about when I mean "go back to".

                                                                              つか、過去ログ見たところ日本人?
                                                                              俺は昭和育ちの生粋のオタやで?
                                                                              俺がいう昔のガイナっつーのはあんたの考えてるソレより十年は古いんだよw

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                                                                                HEAVY METAL GUITAR RIFF

                                                                                into jangly j pop

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                                                                                I don't. I just don't.

                                                                                This could be the most jarring thing I've listened to in my entire life.

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                                                                                  go to hell, this is the best OP song period

                                                                                  Chill. The ending is great. It just sticks out for me for being so relaxing.

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                                                                                    It's my hope that Memories gets played during an epilogue in the final One Piece episode. Sure-fire, guaranteed way to make me cry.

                                                                                    ~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.

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                                                                                      I decided to check it out to se…


                                                                                      I don't. I just don't.

                                                                                      This could be the most jarring thing I've listened to in my entire life.

                                                                                      That certainly is… something else.

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                                                                                        I never watched a Rurouni Kenshin's op because the channel that used to broadcast it edited (or just cut entirely) the opening so it was shorter and different. It's really something.

                                                                                        This opening of Full Metal Panic! is pretty decent, I even like the music, but I think it's too "happy" for a serious plot (if I'm not wrong, the first season already had a serious plot). Anyway, here it is.

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                                                                                          I don't. I just don't.

                                                                                          This could be the most jarring thing I've listened to in my entire life.

                                                                                          And you know what's she's singing about?
                                                                                          Freckles and breaking up.

                                                                                          Not just the Judy & Mary OP, all the RK OPs were unfitting commercial tie-ups with complete mismatched song.
                                                                                          If you think Sobakasu, the first OP song shown there is unfitting, check out the next one, "1/2".

                                                                                          Poppy cheery lyrics about two hearts and lips touching each other while the screen shows menacing villains of the arc.
                                                                                          Yeah.

                                                                                          Ruroken is pretty much the champion of OP mismatch, and always gets brought up as the thread-ender whenever this topic comes up in Japanese forums.

                                                                                          Don't get me wrong, I actually like RK songs and even own the compilation CD of all songs.
                                                                                          They're just hilariously unfitting for the visuals, that's all.

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                                                                                            Concerning the first opening, it's not just that it doen't fit the show, it's also that the guitar riff to rest of the song is one of the most jarring transitions ever.

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                                                                                              Concerning the first opening, it's not just that it doen't fit the show, it's also that the guitar riff to rest of the song is one of the most jarring transitions ever.

                                                                                              Well, it's Judy & Mary.
                                                                                              Heavy guitar riffs with un-matching cutesy cheeky girl vocal is like one of their main staple.

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                                                                                                Concerning the first opening, it's not just that it doen't fit the show, it's also that the guitar riff to rest of the song is one of the most jarring transitions ever.

                                                                                                Welcome to 90s pop rock in Japan lol

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                                                                                                I came in to make sure Narutaru's OP was in the introduction post and it was so all expectations met.

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                                                                                                  I am sorry for disrespecting my elders with more wisdom and anime knowledge than me ペコリ

                                                                                                  Anyway, back on topic I held back posting the Final Fantasy: Unlimited opening because honestly its mediocreness fits pretty well with my opinion of the series, but was this seriously the best they could come up with to hook kids into their 'let's make Final Fantasy popular with the younger generation again' move?

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                                                                                                    So my anime club decided to show Gatchaman Crowds this quarter. I never heard of it but the name sounded familiar. I missed the first episode so I wasn't sure what to expect. The pre-opening scenes were exciting since they were using mechs, and then the opening played


                                                                                                    Liked the music, the visuals were mostly good. I had high hopes for this show.
                                                                                                    And then the opening ended and the main episode started. I hated it.
                                                                                                    Didn't like the art style, characters were annoying, and there was hardly any action until near the end. Apparently this show is part of the classic series _Gatchaman_​.

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                                                                                                      And you know what's she's singing about?
                                                                                                      Freckles and breaking up.

                                                                                                      Not just the Judy & Mary OP, all the RK OPs were unfitting commercial tie-ups with complete mismatched song.
                                                                                                      If you think Sobakasu, the first OP song shown there is unfitting, check out the next one, "1/2".

                                                                                                      Poppy cheery lyrics about two hearts and lips touching each other while the screen shows menacing villains of the arc.
                                                                                                      Yeah.

                                                                                                      Ruroken is pretty much the champion of OP mismatch, and always gets brought up as the thread-ender whenever this topic comes up in Japanese forums.

                                                                                                      Don't get me wrong, I actually like RK songs and even own the compilation CD of all songs.
                                                                                                      They're just hilariously unfitting for the visuals, that's all.

                                                                                                      I completely agree. I love the songs (they're all on my phone), but even the tone and the mood are vastly different compared to the actual series.

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                                                                                                        In the category of Good Songs from Shows I didn't like, the Opening and Ending of Star Ocean EX were really amazing. Unfortunately the show boiled down to Claude using one of his signature attacks to beat every bad guy and ended halfway through the game's plot thus resolving nothing and having very little actual payoff.

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                                                                                                        (though at least anime Rena wasn't loli-fied like in the PSP remake)

                                                                                                        … actually on that same theme, the OP and ED of Wild Arms TV were also pretty memorable even though the show itself was not so memorable. I -think- I watched it, but I may not have finished it? I can't be sure, but it certainly didn't pull me in like the games did. I'm glad the OP followed a similar pattern to Wild Arms 1 instead of going vocal like the later ones.

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                                                                                                        … I can't find the ED anywhere but it was a pretty good song. The video for it was pretty boring if I recall correctly. Just the character's faces posted up on billboards in a city somewhere.

                                                                                                        By the by, anyone seen some of the horribly off-tone openings from the Higurashi spinoffs? I realize that they fit the tone of the spinoff they are the opening of, but if you showed these to a person who didn't know what Higurashi was actually about they might think it's some kind of... well anyway just look.

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                                                                                                        Ha. haha. Think that's bad? Then there was Higurashi Kira

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                                                                                                        By the way, and this is off topic, but has anyone else noticed how Rika and Satoko from Higurashi are Tomoyo and Sakura from Cardcaptor Sakura? Ryuukishi07 himself is a huge CCS fan so it's not a far stretch to imagine he pulled some inspiration from there.

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