And sadly, not like these:
That's quite possibly the greatest thing to ever come out of Toei's bad art.
Chapter 790: "Heaven and Earth"
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And sadly, not like these:
It also fits the singer Polnareff
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It also fits the singer Polnareff
It is pretty much set in stone that in his coming coverstory Doflamingo will start a band.
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It is pretty much set in stone that in his coming coverstory Doflamingo will start a band.
First release is titled: Started from the bottom, was at top, now we're here.
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You left out the two hit after Luff gave Law to Robin. Overheat and when Mingo said Luffy was full of openings.
Nice collage. You made the thread worthwhile
Edit: my mistake, they are there
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
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I guess we can safely assume CP0 are gone. I'll also assume Burgess will run away ASAP now that he will have too many enemies to deal with. All the gladiators will help rebuild Dressrosa and beg Luffy to join his crew!
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just re-read the chapter. Dofla should be dead after that lol. would be interesting if he actually did tho
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You left out the two hit after Luff gave Law to Robin. Overheat and when Mingo said Luffy was full of openings.
Nice collage. You made the thread worthwhile
Edit: my mistake, they are there
Yea it's a good compilation. Still no overheat or these pages;
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Did Luffy say he would kill him at the end of the chapter? It sounds like a bad translation…
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@Monkey:
Having a fuck ton of empty Arctic land inhabited by Inuit is a trope associated with Canada yes. Also Alaska and Greenland. But those aren't countries now are they. They're basically American Canada and Danish Canada respectively.
Siberia would have the same stereotype to some degree but it has inherited some less savory stereotypes instead.
It's not the only trope associated with Canada, but it definitely is among them. I mean we're talking about a place sometimes called the Great White North.
The other stereotypes are far from all encompassing as well.
A Fronde era musketeer isn't all France is known for, Cowboys aren't all for the US, Carnivale for Brazil, Bavaria for Germany, 70's Stadium rock for the UK, etc etc.
I mean what are you gonna tell me next. That because other countries have huge carnivale style parades too that Brazil isn't where Usopp is representing lol?Meanwhile snowy eskimo people isn't remotely a trope for Hungary in any sense whatsoever.
Try maybe some sort of horseman huffing paprika? Linguistically confusing the shit out of their neighbors? I dunno.Did you grow up under a fucking rock lol.
Even just seeing eskimo's in a Looney Tunes cartoon would be enough to identify what Chopper is wearing. Actually though not knowing anything about Inuits isn't what baffles me, it's not knowing anything about Hungary but just sort of acting like you do for no reason.The joke is a million different places have snowstorms. And comparing Hungary to a country that goes deep into the Arctic circle on this is just…baffling.
Every single one is drawn to be slightly bent as if they're floating down like paper. The concave parts on top are the TOP of the flag. So for instance the Star section of the US is where it ought to be if we see that the concave part is the top. Oda's drawing them like they're fluttering down basically.
If Italy was Hungary the green would be convex.Also why would Oda even choose Hungary to be displayed prominently and not Italy? Which do you think is more famous?
The fact that Italy is so prominent like the other flags that are represented through the characters IS what made me try to look at it differently, not sure why you're talking about this concave and convex nonsense because Hungary, if that is Hungary next to Robin, is drawn in exactly the same way except it's rotated a few degrees. No one's arguing which is the more famous and if I didn't immediately think Chopper was rocking Canada I wouldn't have mentioned it to begin with, it's only when I tried to delve into it and try to see a pattern that things went a little lopsided. (I.e. All the most prominent flags next to their respective characters seemed to be what they were wearing) since Italy didn't make sense to me with Chopper I decided to look at it differently to draw a link. It's obviously Canada this point was conceded by me on my first reply but I think you love writing crap to reiterate a point I already understood. I recognise Eskimos by that name, not by Inuit or Yupik, if this is common knowledge from where you're from then good for you (I think?)
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I think we'll see that Luffy had to learn a very valuable lesson that he never took seriously until after Ace's death on the island. Kill or be killed. I think that smile is Luffy's and he's developed some savagery in his gear fourth form. Roger used to destroy countries… Who's to say Luffy didn't pick up that mentality from Raleigh?
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Anyone notice there wasn't a cover page?
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Anyone notice there wasn't a cover page?
What do you mean? The Color Spread is the cover page.
The normal Black & White cover pages don't appear when One Piece is Lead CP in Jump.
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I think we'll see that Luffy had to learn a very valuable lesson that he never took seriously until after Ace's death on the island. Kill or be killed. I think that smile is Luffy's and he's developed some savagery in his gear fourth form. Roger used to destroy countries… Who's to say Luffy didn't pick up that mentality from Raleigh?
If you look at the shape of the chin in that panel, you can see that it's clearly Doflamingo.
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Did Luffy say he would kill him at the end of the chapter? It sounds like a bad translation…
That is Doflamingo talking.
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I found this awesome Parallel of Doflamingo and Luffy.
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@Don:
I don´t deny with my post, that Doffy has charisma and that it is an important part of him.
It´s more like his charisma wasn´t the heavenly gift (as CoC might be supposed to, but we don´t want to mix his charisma with CoC now) he could have used to turn the tides again after his true face was revealed.
Being a guy, who has his hands in so many businesses, he sure has a lot of influence and by that charisma to other characters.
Same for celestrial dragons, where he is more or less a part of, that´s why he got this title in the first place.(IMO)
But like you said, he has the devils charisma, which means he tricks people with his representation, like he did in Dressrosa.
So obviously the people "adored" him, because he presented himself in a holy light and as long as you didn´t question stuff you actually had a good life there. (real life has examples you sure are aware off)
Non the less it was an act, done so that he can control the country as he wishes and do whatever he pleases in the shadows.
For his family and those who adore him (like Belamy) he sure was able to bind them with his charisma, but to reach a greater population, Doffy sure was aware that he can´t control them with his charisma alone, let alone many would have fallen for it. (the joke in 700 was that Luffy fall for it, but because of false reasons…like earlier the people of Dressrosa who had a false impression of him, that he created)
He gathered people around him, who saw him as their savior, even in his childhood days, so yeah, here his charisma did play a big part of his character.
But the point is, that he still wasn´t a good ruler, even while having CoC, because his true charisma is more shocking to "normal" people and Doffy was aware of this. (maybe thought they were such low-lifes that they don`t understand or can´t handle it)
So naturally his charisma works on people who have the "evil seed" in them, but it ain´t working on the "normal" population of Dressrosa, or else i don´t see why he had to hide his true face and had to stage such a big act.
After people realized what kind of person he really is, he wasn´t able to use his charisma to retune them, because most of them ain´t following a devil when they have the choice, which was shown after a while, when the population stopped hunting the stars and worked together to stop the birdcage/save people.The devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?
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I found this awesome Parallel of Doflamingo and Luffy.
[qimg]http://i.imgur.com/LTiPT6f.jpg[/qimg] [qimg]http://i.imgur.com/vOQxAtp.png[/qimg]
when I saw that Luffy panel I spent a few seconds wondering how durable his hat has to be, poor thing has been through some rough stuff
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SEE YOU IN HELL, DRESSROSA!
Where the Swirly Pirates at!?
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Finally over! King Kong Gun is world shattering! Luffy is a beast! I wonder how the marines will react to this news. Fuji's role as an Admiral might be questioned too given that he will have to let the Mugiwara crew escape. Tons of pirates will now want to fly the strawhat jolly-roger now they can't escape their new roles as heroes. What awaits us readers is a treasure trove of goodies that even a talentless writer can't bungle.
It follows now (as far as we know) that the only enemies the strawhats have that might be any trouble are Big-Mum, Kaidou, Blackbeard, Admiral Kizaru, Admiral Akainu and a new admiral we are yet to meet. The others are the Gourousei and the Fleet Admiral.
The story is coming to a close and a mighty one at that. Luffy has his work cut-out now. From here on, its only Yonkous and Admirals. Whoever thinks he ain't ready yet should arrange some training for him quickly. -
How will Akainu tolerate Fujitoras failure of letting Strawhat and Law have their own way?
Execution?
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If only Doffy had managed to save his glasses from being broken, he would have been able to come back in the fight..
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This was a disappointing battle and an equally rushed and disparaging ending. Everyone agrees on this, that this arc needed to end.
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Doflamingo just managed to get all those hits on Luffy because Luffy couldn't move at all. But maybe the same could be said of Luffy getting that last hit on Doflamingo, so…
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How will Akainu tolerate Fujitoras failure of letting Strawhat and Law have their own way?
Execution?
Simple, Sabo held him off, and his priority was protecting the citizens.
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Although the King Kong Gun was satisfying, it nearly paralleled his fight with Crocodile. Right down to Crocodile trying to rule a land.
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Honestly….I seriously doubt the fight is over. The way that lasts pages look. Doesn't seem very Oda-ish in dealing a final blow. I dont know. I just have a feeling we'll see more of this before its over: http://bato.to/read/_/317457/one-piece_ch782_by_powermanga/6 or http://bato.to/read/_/317457/one-piece_ch782_by_powermanga/7
I thrive for stuff like this in one piece. The last time we got that was with Lucci. I just think this is going to last another chapter or two is all, the fight I mean. Dofla didn't have a feeling of disbelief that he's going to lose yet. Just me.
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Anyone notice there wasn't a cover page?
The cover was the colour page, thats how it works, when you don't havea colour page you get normal cover.
This was a disappointing battle and an equally rushed and disparaging ending. Everyone agrees on this, that this arc needed to end.
Not everyone agrees on this, most people are happy from what I'm reading, I dont see how this is rushed when you are saying that this needed to end, I dont see how this was rushed when they have been fighting for months, I don't see how this is rushed when we knew this would end with one shot…I get it you guys are tired of Dressrosa but this arguments just make no fucking sense.
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All but one are pre G4 activation. And even those impaling spikes are pathetic compared to kicks that can cut buildings or string attacks that cut off giant legs.
Awakening for the most useless final power up ever. Expected more from Dofla's endgame, that's all.
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Simple, Sabo held him off, and his priority was protecting the citizens.
I'd buy it. Good for me
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@Gia:
Honestly….I seriously doubt the fight is over. The way that lasts pages look. Doesn't seem very Oda-ish in dealing a final blow. I dont know. I just have a feeling we'll see more of this before its over: http://bato.to/read/_/317457/one-piece_ch782_by_powermanga/6 or http://bato.to/read/_/317457/one-piece_ch782_by_powermanga/7
I thrive for stuff like this in one piece. The last time we got that was with Lucci. I just think this is going to last another chapter or two is all, the fight I mean. Dofla didn't have a feeling of disbelief that he's going to lose yet. Just me.
The glasses are off but Law isn't happy..
Yea that Z type stuff would be epic as hell!
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@zeff:
If only Doffy had managed to save his glasses from being broken, he would have been able to come back in the fight..
I feel you, but don't you want to see Doffy's eyes now ? I mean: conscious.
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You give way too much importance to 1-on-1 conditions.
Never mind that through a good deal of the fight, it was actually a 2 vs. 3, with Doula being assisted by Trebol and Bellamy, who both gave hits to Law and Luffy respectively. It certainly wasn't a fair fight.
This. Luffy also fought Don Chin and used several haki attacks. Luffy ran out of Haki in g4 after thundering flamingo. If flamingo didn't have his god healing ability he would have been done quickly. Even with it Luffywins 1v1 no questions for me.
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No, you are actually extremely frustrated at the utter incompetence. Soon you will recognise your true feelings. Unless you just enjoy comic people brutally beating up each other. Than everything is fine.
Shit, you saw right through me. Yeah, I'm actually facepalming at Dofla's incompetence right now.
Worst villain everz. He'z so oneshoted! He's the oneshoted man!
I never noticed that Doflamingo cut Luffy's foot sole with his awakened thread. Made me cringe so hard I had to check if my own feet are okay.
Hmm, I think he actually stepped in a pool of Law's blood, not his own foot getting cut.
I like how Luffy got impaled by Doffy's awakened threads, though. So brutal. And then when he made him walk like a creepy, broken marionette. Good stuff. It's kind of hilarious coming from last week:
"Here goes Lucy and he's gonna destroy Doflamingo with one hit! Well, he's getting kind of impaled, but I'm sure he'll be ok! Oh, well, he's still getting impaled but. . .hey, Lucy? You ok? You definitely DON'T look ok…"
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This. Luffy also fought Don Chin and used several haki attacks. Luffy ran out of Haki in g4 after thundering flamingo. If flamingo didn't have his god healing ability he would have been done quickly. Even with it Luffywins 1v1 no questions for me.
But Haki regenerates if you don't use it?
Doflamingo has been using Haki the entire time with no problems. He doesnt go full vergo. Luffy did that.
If Doflamingo didn't have the ability. Law would have won.
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Zoro should put Pica on a leash, and make him rebuild Dressrosa with his powers. He can start with the foundation. Level the streets and seal the cracks.
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No.
Even Whitebeards crew knew shanks wasn't someone to start a fight like that.
and you show your fangs to avoid to have to demonstrate your prowess in a real fight..so,i rest my case
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I like how Luffy got impaled by Doffy's awakened threads, though. So brutal. And then when he made him walk like a creepy, broken marionette. Good stuff.
Actually, this hasn't felt quite convincing to me. Luffy endures the bulk of Doflamingo's piercing attacks, so much so that he's driven into a wall. Eventually some if not most of the attacks go through his haki armor, amounting to… Nothing? Look how easily he bursts into G4 and delivers the final blow, as if nothing'd happened. It's even worse with Gatz. Guy isn't even a fighter, was skewered by a ten inch-thick string tentacle, yet he's still merrily cheering and rooting for Luffy. Seriously, this whole awakening business is possibly the most inefficient DF power into the entire series. Sure it gives Doffy's fighting style a creepy-dark-overlord touch, but it feels completely useless compared to what he was doing before.
Admittedly this is One Piece, where characters shrug off bullets, explosions and point-blank nuclear blasts. But still, compare with how deadly Akainu's pre-timeskip magma fist was: now wounds of a similar extent seem like mundane scratches that anyone can ignore thanks to willpower, OP DF, or plot. No wonder fights lack tension...
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@Eat:
So, is Luffy THAT much stronger than everybody else on Dressrosa right now? I mean, he ripped the strings only by inflating while activating Gear 4th.
I'm quite positive he severed his connection to them rather than break them. Doflamingo's strings all have different properties depending on their purpose. @Seafarer33:
Admittedly this is One Piece, where characters shrug off bullets, explosions and point-blank nuclear blasts.
This post makes your first paragraph completely pointless. @Seafarer33:
But still, compare with how deadly Akainu's pre-timeskip magma fist was: now wounds of a similar extent seem like mundane scratches that anyone can ignore thanks to willpower, OP DF, or plot.
Deadly to whom? It only managed to kill a fodder and Ace who died willingly. Everyone else survived it.
No wonder fights lack tension…
That's merely a personal experience. The majority of them had a life or death situation involved.
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Worst villain everz.
He legitimately is the worst arc villain because he's full of contrived plot devices and a golden age superman-esque ability to have all the abilities he wants. Also his backstory is awful. It lacks any intrigue or subtlety and is basically about a sadistic self-entitled brat getting a massive wad of power and followers handed to him on a silver platter for no reason other than to create a hateable villian. Every part of him is painfully forced.
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Actually, this hasn't felt quite convincing to me. Luffy endures the bulk of Doflamingo's piercing attacks, so much so that he's driven into a wall. Eventually some if not most of the attacks go through his haki armor, amounting to… Nothing? Look how easily he bursts into G4 and delivers the final blow, as if nothing'd happened. It's even worse with Gatz. Guy isn't even a fighter, was skewered by a ten inch-thick string tentacle, yet he's still merrily cheering and rooting for Luffy. Seriously, this whole awakening business is possibly the most inefficient DF power into the entire series. Sure it gives Doffy's fighting style a creepy-dark-overlord touch, but it feels completely useless compared to what he was doing before.
That's only because Oda likes to make characters look powerful at the start by making Luffy look weaker than he is. Just see how effective CP9's Rokushiki are against Luffy at Water 7 and then compare it to Enies Lobby.
Doula's Awakening is literally just more threads, so it's not less efficient than his previous fighting style. Never mind the fact that Gear Fourth literally made Doula's hand to hand combat useless.
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He legitimately is the worst arc villain because he's full of contrived plot devices and a golden age superman-esque ability to have all the abilities he wants. Also his backstory is awful. It lacks any intrigue or subtlety and is basically about a sadistic self-entitled brat getting a massive wad of power and followers handed to him on a silver platter for no reason other than to create a hateable villian. Every part of him is painfully forced.
That's more than I can say for any other OP villain. Most of them are just dicks with no backstory whatsoever.
And even then, that's just an opinion I don't agree with. I thought his backstory was actually pretty well-done and it really complemented the character.
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He legitimately is the worst arc villain
You remember Hody, right?
because he's full of contrived plot devices and a golden age superman-esque ability to have all the abilities he wants.
He has a wide range of abilites that he's gained through adapting his Devil Fruit in pretty much every way he can.
It's pretty much a core element that makes One Piece so great, seemingly less than useful abilities being adapted for powerful usages.
Also his backstory is awful. It lacks any intrigue or subtlety
Yeah, the messed up spawn of a dynasty who all believe that they're better than normal people being torn down by his fathers decisions and experiencing horrific events which then subsequently turn him into a power hungry sadist is awful and lacks intrigue.
and is basically about a sadistic self-entitled brat getting a massive wad of power and followers handed to him on a silver platter for no reason other than to create a hateable villian.
No, its about a kid who had everything, losing everything and turning his back on the world.
Creating his own family of followers who are drawn to him because of his fantastic charisma and outstanding power.
A fallen god choosing to later play god over an island of helpless citizens.
Every part of him is painfully forced.
Yeah, I'm not buying this.
Pretty much everything Doffy has done or embodied has made total sense in relation to his backstory.
_"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron
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Actually, this hasn't felt quite convincing to me. Luffy endures the bulk of Doflamingo's piercing attacks, so much so that he's driven into a wall. Eventually some if not most of the attacks go through his haki armor, amounting to… Nothing? Look how easily he bursts into G4 and delivers the final blow, as if nothing'd happened. It's even worse with Gatz. Guy isn't even a fighter, was skewered by a ten inch-thick string tentacle, yet he's still merrily cheering and rooting for Luffy. Seriously, this whole awakening business is possibly the most inefficient DF power into the entire series. Sure it gives Doffy's fighting style a creepy-dark-overlord touch, but it feels completely useless compared to what he was doing before.
Admittedly this is One Piece, where characters shrug off bullets, explosions and point-blank nuclear blasts. But still, compare with how deadly Akainu's pre-timeskip magma fist was: now wounds of a similar extent seem like mundane scratches that anyone can ignore thanks to willpower, OP DF, or plot. No wonder fights lack tension...
I feel the same, more or less. Compared to how Dofla was cutting people's heads or legs before they knew what was going on, he seems really nerfed now. He showed versatility and creativity with his devil fruit in everything besides the conclusion of this fight. If he has so many strings at his disposal, why not make an armor with razor sharp spikes or more clones to try to fool Luffy? Why couldn't he make some of those Off Whites do Overheat for more power?
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I think the only problem is that Oda is too stubborn and must follow the same rules. First villain gets hype ( so much that he even makes other important characters look like crap), then if he is too good, he finds ways so Luffy can still solo him, instead of giving luffy a partner in the final fight.
It would be ok after the new things we saw in this arc, there would be no problem with it.
Law's fight with Doflamingo could be placed in the 10 minutes that Luffy needed to recover his haki. Heck, maybe Luffy would not need 10 minutes if law was in the battle to help him.
This is just IMO, don't want to start anything.
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I feel Dofla is KO but the bird cage will still be there animated by the awakened DF itself… so maybe the action is not completly over
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Although the King Kong Gun was satisfying, it nearly paralleled his fight with Crocodile. Right down to Crocodile trying to rule a land.
TBH: Doffy had A LOT in common with Croc to begin with.
One of the few differences between them is that Doffy took over DR 10yrs ago, where Croc failed in Arabasta.A lot of People call Rebecca a "useless" fighter, but i have to say: when you look at her mom, you should wonder that she even picked up a sword. Scarlett was pretty pacifistic IMO.
After These 2 build-up chapters the end of the fight felt a Little rushed though I wonder how anyone can Stretch out a 1HKO even further (wait for the Anime ;D).
EDIT: What I also missed this fight was the lil flashbacks Luffy has from the main villains. You see the motives again that drive Luffy to defeat the baddie. Doffy did enough cruelties that could Pop up in Luffy's Memory. But there was only that lil Rayleigh-FB. Pretty ok and neat but not more I'm afraid.Now I am very lookin Forward for the next chapters after the post-fight-Party. World-changing world building chapters lie ahead!!! I even hope for the Reverie to start, but we might just get Little hints bout it or mentionings. And maybe a glance at Kaidou… (if it really wasn't Meadows XD)
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The Problem with Luffy's and Zoro's Training-FBs is: If they hadn't been there, you wouldn't miss them. Though Zoro's was a Little better than Luffy's. I hope there is about more to come from those flashbacks once they take on a Yonkou-Crew.
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He legitimately is the worst arc villain because he's full of contrived plot devices and a golden age superman-esque ability to have all the abilities he wants. Also his backstory is awful. It lacks any intrigue or subtlety and is basically about a sadistic self-entitled brat getting a massive wad of power and followers handed to him on a silver platter for no reason other than to create a hateable villian. Every part of him is painfully forced.
If you don't mind the effort, can you please explain how the following villains were better than Mingo?
Alvida, Morgan, Buggy, Kuro, Krieg, Arlong, Mr 3, Wapol, Crocodile, Eneru, Foxy, Lucci, Moriah, Magellan, Hody and Ceasar
Flesh your points based on all the concerns you have over Doffy.
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About the final-Punch I have to add that I am more a fan of the gatling-finsh-Offs.
Lucci's defeat was the most epic-impressive by now if you go by the Panels followed by Croc's and Oz'. What I liked bout the finish-off this chapter is that the whole town broke down like a giant plate. Looks awesome.
