I personally couldn't care less about the sunny team but I am biased because most of my favorite characters are on dressrosa right now. I am sure we will see them in time so they haven't really crossed NY mind except when I was worried that the focuswwould switch to them when we were waiting for reveals like gear fourth or if law was dead etc
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Chapter 785: Even if my legs were broken…
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I like that Luffy vs Doflamingo reminds me in some ways of Sanj vs Vergo
Like with those panels
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How Doffy and Vergo are getting hit to the face and their head twists to same side.
- how both Doffy and Vergo gotten pushed into wall
Vergo flew into iron wall here
And Doffy gotten pushed into solid rock by Luffy at last page of last weeks chapter
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I wonder, if Dofla isnt able to flee or he ll be rescued, which dumb reason Law will muster, for not killing him - when Dofla is finally defeated.
And I have no Idea, on which Level Burgess could be. More or less like Luffy? I hope we´ll find an answer soon.
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I wonder, if Dofla isnt able to flee or he ll be rescued, which dumb reason Law will muster, for not killing him - when Dofla is finally defeated.
And I have no Idea, on which Level Burgess could be. More or less like Luffy? I hope we´ll find an answer soon.
I would say based on latest evidence that Luffy and Sabo are roughly equal at this time, I can't see Burgess winning a fight with Sabo if it were to happen so I would say Burgess is at about same level as Doffy.
Hard to be sure until we see Burgess actually fight, personally I don't think he is that big a deal even though he is a yonkou commander, I certainly don't think he's a match for Marco or Shanks 1st mate.
I am looking forward to Jimbei joining, would be perfect if a logia then joined, Enel would be hilarious.
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They are many coincidences and characters calling them fate. But it is not like everything was written beforehand.
There isn't an old guy in Raftel waiting for Luffy and Luffy only to tell him that it was his destiny all along to get the One Piece.
Killing the dreams of all the pirates that died to get there.
"Sorry guys, you are not Dragon's son so you don't get the One Piece, no matter how hard you try, it's destiny"
One Piece isn't like that.Sure the Void Century, the Ds and other stuff will influence the future. Just like Calgara and Norland's story influenced many characters. But there isn't a magical force in the universe making a group of people smile before they die.
Just my opinion, I would really hate Oda for awhile if a Poneglyph says something like : "a boy with a strawhat, a scar on the torso and under one eye with the Gomu Gomu fruit will save the world"
Madam Shirley's prediction is about that. Assuming the we-all-know-that theory is correct, and that seems very likely, Shirley's prediction means that Luffy and Luffy alone can save the world now.
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Shirley's prediction means that Luffy and Luffy alone can save the world now.
After 600+ chapters Oda introduced the first character that looks in the future like it's already writen.
Yep, I hope we never see her again. Or that Luffy proves her wrong.
By the way, how did you interprete her prediction this way ? :wassat:
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After 600+ chapters Oda introduced the first character that looks in the future like it's already writen.
Yep, I hope we never see her again. Or that Luffy proves her wrong.
By the way, how did you interprete her prediction this way ? :wassat:Well if you're familiar with the "One Piece means unite all the seas in one big ocean" that requires destruction of Marijoa/Fishmen Island in order to unify those seas. So if the inherited will stuff is about that and Shirley knows that Luffy is going to destroy Fishmen Island…
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I finally found that page that - for me - shows how Oda approaches real world physics in One Piece
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After 600+ chapters Oda introduced the first character that looks in the future like it's already writen.
Yep, I hope we never see her again. Or that Luffy proves her wrong.
By the way, how did you interprete her prediction this way ? :wassat:Personally I always interpreted the prophecy to refer to the upheaval of Fishman Island society Luffy helped instigate, striking a note against its culture of racism and old hatreds by defeating Hody, the biggest symbol-slash-victim of that society.
Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.
Statler: No you haven't.
Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!
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Personally I always interpreted the prophecy to refer to the upheaval of Fishman Island society Luffy helped instigate, striking a note against its culture of racism and old hatreds by defeating Hody, the biggest symbol-slash-victim of that society.
Yep, FI stands for their exclusion of society.
It might be beautiful, but in the eyes of the fishman it´s their golden birdcage.
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Luffy being a son of the "devil", being saved by lightning from smoker in rouguetown, and many other times by others because he has this aura about him. People want to aid luffy for no good reason, Mihawk even confirms this. Oda has been having the naruto destiny effect from day one.
You're right, of course. I just hope it isn't as cut and dry as all that, despite the mounting evidence lol. Also, I don't get your Naruto reference. Sorry!
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I finally found that page that - for me - shows how Oda approaches real world physics in One Piece
I believe that this was referring to Quantum Mechanics. Quantum Mechanics, from what Ive read, deals with probability. The article I read also talked about every single outcome being played out in its own corresponding reality thus creating an infinite number of realities. If the idea exists in our mind, Id say the probablity of the idea becoming possible is no longer 0%. And if its no longer 0%, it will exist in one of the alternate realities.
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I believe that this was referring to Quantum Mechanics. Quantum Mechanics, from what Ive read, deals with probability. The article I read also talked about every single outcome being played out in its own corresponding reality thus creating an infinite number of realities. If the idea exists in our mind, Id say the probablity of the idea becoming possible is no longer 0%. And if its no longer 0%, it will exist in one of the alternate realities.
That sounds more complicated that Imagined but makes more senes
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Burgers = Luffy?
Don't even.
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Burgers = Luffy?
Don't even.
I would say that Luffy would have to go for Gear 4th to dominate Burgess. But when he would go into it we would not have as long fight as we have against Doflamingo.
It would have been already ended.
Without Gear 4th Luffy would be in for a lenghty fight as I expect G2nd and G3rd to be plenty of a boost but possibly not enough for taking out Burgess.
We have to see more from Burglares to judge him, I would say he is Sanji final enemy material imo. So very strong but with visible difference in combat power compared to Luffy. -
I would say that Luffy would have to go for Gear 4th to dominate Burgess. But when he would go into it we would not have as long fight as we have against Doflamingo.
It would have been already ended.
Without Gear 4th Luffy would be in for a lenghty fight as I expect G2nd and G3rd to be plenty of a boost but possibly not enough for taking out Burgess.
We have to see more from Burglares to judge him, I would say he is Sanji final enemy material imo. So very strong but with visible difference in combat power compared to Luffy.I agree, Luffy has to be at least the strength of a commander in WB's army at this point, since he beat DD who came out of the world unscathed.
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You're right, of course. I just hope it isn't as cut and dry as all that, despite the mounting evidence lol. Also, I don't get your Naruto reference. Sorry!
Yeah, don't worry about that reference.
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I agree, Luffy has to be at least the strength of a commander in WB's army at this point, since he beat DD who came out of the world unscathed.
I can't say I agree with this logic.
Bear in mind the quality of opponents that the WB commanders fought, and the quality of opponents that Doffy basically toyed with during the war.
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There's unexpected plot elements arising and then there's randomly relegating a major confrontation to a cover story.
I wouldn't equate the two.
It isn't said that cover story needs to show the confrontation. It might just show the aftermath, leaving us wondering what the hell happened and how SH managed to get away. But I agree it wouldn't feel right.
Besides, it's not like we'll get a new cover story right away after Jinbe's. By the time for the next cover story to start, we'll probably see Sunny team again anyway.
If you like the sound of an epic, 8 part story that's like a mix of lord of the rings and classic westerns, then it's for you.
Then it's for me, indeed.
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I finally found that page that - for me - shows how Oda approaches real world physics in One Piece
I gotta say, that page is maybe my favourite in the entire series
A time when adventure really meant something. -
I can't say I agree with this logic.
Bear in mind the quality of opponents that the WB commanders fought, and the quality of opponents that Doffy basically toyed with during the war.
Depends on the commander
The whitebeard crew was very top heavy. On the one hand you had marco et al. On the other hnd you had the likes of atomos
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Doffy is top commander level but has more variety to his powers making him hax.
So hax bonus puts him in between the admiral and the commander.
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People don't consider post timeskip Luffy equal to Ace ??
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Luffy's fighting style is really not built for the "several days long" type of fight.
Aokiji and Akainu must have camped along the way, though.
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People don't consider post timeskip Luffy equal to Ace ??
I always did, especially after seeing Gear 4.I don't want to get into a power level discussion, so I'll just say this. We never got a full idea of Ace's power, so we can never say for sure how Luffy stacks up now compared to Ace then.
Luffy's fighting style is really not built for the "several days long" type of fight.
Aokiji and Akainu must have camped along the way, though.
Shouldn't Admirals know that camping is for noobs?
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Luffy's fighting style is really not built for the "several days long" type of fight.
Aokiji and Akainu must have camped along the way, though.
Oda would have done better not to have included those days long fights into the story. Like Ace and Jinbe's 3 days and Akainu and Aokiji's 10 days. What about logistics? Did admirals bring backpacks with provisions to help them survive? 3 days is a lot easier to swallow. They could have fucked up the island in 3 days the same. They could have probably done so in one day, but 10 days sounds more epic, I guess, as long as you block out that part of your brain that tries to imagine the schedule for the each day. With varying sucess. :ninja:
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Besides, it's not like we'll get a new cover story right away after Jinbe's. By the time for the next cover story to start, we'll probably see Sunny team again anyway.
Hmm, I'm not sure about that tbh.
We still have the rest of the Doffy-Luffy fight, some kind of confrontation between Sabo and Burgess, probably some further exposition of Fuji's motives going forward, Law being patched up etc. all to come before they crew leave Dressrosa.
I think we'll see a new, Punk Hazard themed cover story before that's all resolved.
Then it's for me, indeed.
Keep me updated on your progress when you start your journey toward The Tower.
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Depends on the commander
The whitebeard crew was very top heavy. On the one hand you had marco et al. On the other hnd you had the likes of atomos
I was assuming that the comparison was between Doffy and one of the more prominent WB commanders, like Marco or Jozu, rather than one like Atomos.
That Doffy is at least as strong as Atomos is pretty apparent.
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Oda would have done better not to have included those days long fights into the story. Like Ace and Jinbe's 3 days and Akainu and Aokiji's 10 days. What about logistics? Did admirals bring backpacks with provisions to help them survive? 3 days is a lot easier to swallow. They could have fucked up the island in 3 days the same. They could have probably done so in one day, but 10 days sounds more epic, I guess, as long as you block out that part of your brain that tries to imagine the schedule for the each day. With varying sucess. :ninja:
Territory warefare. Trying to swallow up the opponent with their ability and turning the Ice into magma and vice versa.
The fight was even having Akainu only just winning and if you notice the island was half and half. I can imagine Aokoji retreating for a rest and Akainu with meteor volcanoes overnight.
Or Oda was like: yea 2 admirals, 10 days sounds epic.. Let the fans speculate! In actuality nothing happened!
Oda: I'm bored. I'll switch on my mind and create an epic fight only in my mind which no one else will see!! Muhahaha
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I am pretty sure that we will get at least 10 cover requests. 11 if Carue gets his own.
The last requests got some random characters aswell: Aokiji, Law, Mihawk, Heracle'N and Dadan.
Well Law wasn't random, but we didn't get Kin and Momo for some reason.
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The fight was even having Akainu only just winning and if you notice the island was half and half. I can imagine Aokoji retreating for a rest and Akainu with meteor volcanoes overnight
Hah! That's exactly how it happened: after ten days, Aokiji couldn't hold it in and had to take a piss.
Which is when Akainu sneaked up on him and performed his _One Thousand Years of Magma Death S_ecret Awakened Move
, vaporizing his man thing and dignity in one swift move. :ninja:That or they had a ten-day food party, then decided the winner by flipping a coin and nuked the island just to maintain their reputation as admirals.
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I am pretty sure that we will get at least 10 cover requests. 11 if Carue gets his own.
The last requests got some random characters aswell: Aokiji, Law, Mihawk, Heracle'N and Dadan.
Well Law wasn't random, but we didn't get Kin and Momo for some reason.
10 or more chapters before the next cover story. I hope we see Sanji's group earlier.There would be no point in showing them before the arc is mostly resolved, I think. Not when they haven't been shown for so long already.
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Hah! That's exactly how it happened: after ten days, Aokiji couldn't hold it in and had to take a piss.
Which is when Akainu sneaked up on him and performed his _One Thousand Years of Magma Death S_ecret Awakened Move, vaporizing his man thing and dignity in one swift move. :ninja:That or they had a ten-day food party, then decided the winner by flipping a coin and nuked the island just to maintain their reputation as admirals.
I lost it on the last possibility. That theory has my full support now. Nuked the Island. Love it
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Hah! That's exactly how it happened: after ten days, Aokiji couldn't hold it in and had to take a piss.
Which is when Akainu sneaked up on him and performed his _One Thousand Years of Magma Death S_ecret Awakened Move, vaporizing his man thing and dignity in one swift move. :ninja:That or they had a ten-day food party, then decided the winner by flipping a coin and nuked the island just to maintain their reputation as admirals.
Or they never really fought and it was all used to make Aokiji's transfer to piracy convincing to everyone.
Well, I suppose, between Aokiji and Drake, one should turn out to be a spy and one should turn out to be a genuine marine turncoat. For the sake of balance, if nothing else.
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Or they never really fought and it was all used to make Aokiji's transfer to piracy convincing to everyone.
Akainu: "Ok I'm going to cut your leg off here"
Aokiji: "WHAT? Why?"
Akainu: "Believability it's ok you can just use Ice to make a new one"
Aokiji: "But I'm very attached to my leg >:("
Akainu: "Look I'm trying to be reasonable here"
Aokiji: "Well what limb are you going to lose?"
Akainu: "Lol as if - I'm the Admiral here I don't lose anything"
Aokiji: "This seems very one sided"
Akainu: "Come on man … just think of the benifits"
Aokiji: "WHAT BENEFITS?"
Akainu: "Well ... think of the savings on socks and shoes?"
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I'm sure Akainu did some trick to win a battle that was balanced for 10 days. As much as he respected Aokiji, Akainu is not the guy to throw away his goals just for the sake of fair fight. I think the leg had something to do with it. I hope Aokiji gets to tell the story of the fight to someone.
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I know a guy who would flip and foam at that…
But if there was an interference, it would have been from WG.
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I'm sure Akainu did some trick to win a battle that was balanced for 10 days. As much as he respected Aokiji, Akainu is not the guy to throw away his goals just for the sake of fair fight. I think the leg had something to do with it. I hope Aokiji gets to tell the story of the fight to someone.
Na I think it came down to. Akainu, just being that tiny little bit stronger than Kuzan.
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Or they never really fought and it was all used to make Aokiji's transfer to piracy convincing to everyone.
Well, I suppose, between Aokiji and Drake, one should turn out to be a spy and one should turn out to be a genuine marine turncoat. For the sake of balance, if nothing else.
considering he lost his foot, and has some massive new burn scars. its clear he fought someone with monstrous fire abilities, aka, Magma bitch.
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considering he lost his foot, and has some massive new burn scars. its clear he fought someone with monstrous fire abilities, aka, Magma bitch.
That's the idea, duh.
He couldn't really fool anyone if he had some light scarring. But he lost his leg against Akainu? No way he faked that!
Anyway, it's just an idea. Stranger things have happened in OP.
Still, I think Aokiji is genuinely against marines now (or on his own side to be more exact) and Drake is a marine spy.
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Na I think it came down to. Akainu, just being that tiny little bit stronger than Kuzan.
Or possibly Aokiji was not willing to kill Akainu just to win and surrendered before they ended up killing each other, we know that Akainu being the mad dog he is that he would have fought to the death.
Alas it is a fight we will most likely never see in the manga.
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I would really love to see a cover story of Kuzan! That would be great but before that i would want to either see the Sunny crew on the covers or in the actual story line preferably the latter
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Akainu: He's (Aokiji) embarrassed. He was a beat fighter. There's a difference between a great fighter in the marines and I proved that I'm the best. Uhhm excuses excuses excuses. I knew it was coming. I knew it. But I'm not going to buy into this doo doo. I'm not going to buy into this bull-creamy butt nuggets. And I don't want the public to buy into this poop. He lost. He know he lost and I lost a lot of respect for him. After all of this. You know you fight and if you lose, it's okay. Sakazuki was the better man. You know a true admiral can bounce back. Come on. I mean this is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I won. I know I won. I know I'm the better admiral. We fight 10 times, Imma win 10 times. We fight 20 times, Imma win 20 times. A 100 times? Imma win a 100 times. Kuzan ain't a better fighter than me. Nowhere around the island.
-Akainu's reason for why he won't rematch Aokiji
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I would really love to see a cover story of Kuzan! That would be great but before that i would want to either see the Sunny crew on the covers or in the actual story line preferably the latter
I think that next Cover Story will be about Punk Hazard - update on lots of things with Brownbeard as main guy of cover story
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I wounder who Borsalino wanted to win out of kuzan vs sakazuki?
I know more about One Piece than you FACT.
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I wounder who Borsalino wanted to win out of kuzan vs sakazuki?
I like to think he's more on Kuzan's side. I mean he's kinda chill and cool like Kuzan.
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:s People , no chapter this week ????
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:s People , no chapter this week ????
Why? Yes there is a chapter, I didnt see anyone saying otherwise.
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Who lost a foot and got burn scars? How did I miss this.
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I remember the days when I ask when will the spoilers come out. Good times. Now I just quietly wait it out.
