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      what do you guys think ..will Sanji and Usopp get their Bounty after water 7 .. ,Nami probably not,i guess ..i don't think she would do much things …(my opinion) Chopper im not sure ...but i think that ,Sanji and Usopp would get their Bounty after water 7 ,what do you think?

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        Ah yes, good observation Cyclone Keno Joe. Perhaps it's time those two deserve the recognition they deserve :D
        It is possible that they will receive bounty. However, the biggest mystery would be: what will Sanji do to upset the CP9 and the world government? He's been missing for quite a while now, I wonder how Oda will make his comeback…...in style baby :lol:

        But it'll be troublesome if they do have bounty. Sanji won't be able to do undercover op anymore.

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          Yeah, right on. I've been saying this so long, Water 7 if ever is the best opportunity for them to get bounties. I'm sure Sanji's and Usopp's actions in W7 will greatly affect on CP9's and the World Government's plans.

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            I'll be funny if Usopp eventually gets his bounty, but it's like a million or less Belli & they screw up his picture or something. :P

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              Originally posted by Battle Franky@Feb 27 2005, 08:04 AM
              I'll be funny if Usopp eventually gets his bounty, but it's like a million or less Belli & they screw up his picture or something. :P
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              :lol: Good point Battle Franky. Maybe they'll use Luffy's wanted picture and say "WANTED!!!! They guy at the back"

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                Usopp getting a abounty before Sanji would make good comedy. :D But if I were the Marine I'd put a big bounty on Nami's head, because without her the Strawhats aren't going nowhere.

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                  I think it would be cool if they got their own bounties. On the other hand, I was thinking a while back…if Usopp and Sanji did get a huge bounty on their heads, would they ever be able to return to their original homes? Would Usopp be able to live in peace in his hometown? Would Sanji be able to return to Baratie?

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                    I don't think Sanji will ever get a bounty. I think Oda wants him to remain the James Bond-like crewmember who can walk around and inflitrate places without being seen, like what he did with his Mr. Prince alter ego during the Albasta arc.

                    And I would laugh if Battle Franky's prediction comes true.

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                      Man.. if Usopp gets a bounty HIGHER than Sanji, he'll probably never cook for Usopp again.. except give him water… Yea-HA-HA-HA!! I AM GOD!! :lol:

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                        I wonder how much will be a bounty? Maybe Usopp 900 000 000 :P
                        and Sanji 10 000:D:D:D?

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                          I agree with Zio about Sanji not having a bounty.

                          Usopp, I dunno. Can he really stop bounty hunters?

                          Originally Posted by Battle Franky

                          Bad move, bub!

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                            I've been wondering about that ever since I read the last chapters. I also don't think Sanji would get a bounty, he's never really seen by anyone and that's what makes him usefull: like a backdoor.
                            Also, maybe Nami will get a bounty. I mean, there are too many people in Water 7 that knows that she is a Straw Hat pirate, while Ussop could go around in his weak state and shop for wood without being chased down. It doesn't matter if you do big things if most of the population don't see you.
                            If Ussop gets a bounty, I'm sure they'll do something funny with his photo.

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                              I still have high hopes that Usopp will lay a viscious owning on one or more of the CP9 (I don't care what great martial arts techniques they know, if you are rolling on the floor choking on gas and blinded by Tobasco in the eyes you won't be ready for the impact dial to the face - great techniques require concentration - Usopp will destroy their concentration and they will be wide open to attack - I hope :P ) and if he does then I think there is a good chance he will finally get a bounty. These government weasels seem to operate that way.
                              I'd really like it if his lies started getting spread around with his picture. "What, this guy has a million followers?! Wow, he must be tough!"
                              Sanji, well, unless Robin spills the identies of all the Straw Hats to the government for the purpose of putting out bounties then I doubt he will get one. Mr. Prince might, and that would be cool, but I doubt it.

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                                For me, I dont think Usopp will get one easily but Sanji might, depending on his role in the current arc.

                                Well I dont think Usopp will get a bounty for a looong time (not that I dislike him though, I just think he is still not strong enough to be a threat to the government).

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                                  Usopp should get a ridiculously big bounty. Sanji should get one too, since he'll probably be instrumental in defeating CP9(assuming they do defeat them). The Government will need cover ups since they can't acknowledge CP9, but they could just as easily say the bounties are for "Attacking important Government officials".

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                                    How's this:
                                    Usopp: B15,000,000
                                    Sanji: B20,000,000
                                    Nami: B15,000,000
                                    Chopper same amount as Nami :lol:

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                                      Originally posted by Knight@Feb 27 2005, 08:01 AM
                                      **Ah yes, good observation Cyclone Keno Joe. Perhaps it's time those two deserve the recognition they deserve   :D  
                                      It is possible that they will receive bounty. However, the biggest mystery would be: what will Sanji do to upset the CP9 and the world government? He's been missing for quite a while now, I wonder how Oda will make his comeback…...in style baby  :lol:

                                      But it'll be troublesome if they do have bounty. Sanji won't be able to do undercover op anymore.
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                                      Yes it's obvious that Sanji's wanted poster will say Mr. Prince. Poor Sanji he'll now be the laughing stock of Baratie

                                      As for Ussop I think he deserved a bounty long before this. Heck he deserved one at the end of Arabasta. But what if Ussop get's a higher bounty than Luffy?

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                                        I would have to agree, I don't Sanji is ever going to get a bounty. But I can also see him getting a bounty as Mr. Prince. That would be funny. Poor Sanji. laughs
                                        I bet at least one of the crew will get a bounty that does already have one and maybe Luffy's will get raised. I'm betting on either Nami or Usopp for a new bounty.

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                                          Simple…

                                          MR. PRINCE REVIVED!

                                          Yes it's obvious that Sanji's wanted poster will say Mr. Prince. Poor Sanji he'll now be the laughing stock of Baratie

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                                          I have the same thoughts to this too ^o^ wearing sunglasses and an evil look

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                                            I think that if they beat the CP9 Luffy's and Zoro's bounty will go up, and the other crew will get lesser amounts. I think it will be like Luffy - 120,000,000
                                            Zoro-100,000,000
                                            Sanji (if he gets one hopefully not, because I think sneaky Sanji)- 50,000,000
                                            Nami, Chopper, Usopp - 25,000,000
                                            So the crew will be worht 375,000,00 with out RObin, and 423,000,00 if Robin's bounty stays the same. I still hope Sanji doesn't get a bounty, but someone is gonna discover him. I hope it isn't through an extreme ass whipping by the CP9 though.

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                                              I still wonder what would happen if Ussop's bounty became higher than Luffy's XD I could see Ussop trying to claim that he's Captain now that he has the higher bounty and the others agree in a joking fashion while Luffy complains about it XD

                                              But yeah Sanji needs a bounty and it should be made out to Mr. Prince. Although I wonder how Zeff would react to that. He'd probably beat the crap out of Sanji while saying "Are you trying to disgrace us fighting cooks?!"

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                                                I don’t think Sanji will get a bounty either, but it would be kinda cool if he did,,, that way he could lord it over Zoro when the two get to bickering.
                                                Nami does seems more likely,,, though I hope it is not too high lest she be tempted to turn herself in for the money.
                                                And yeah, it would be friggin funny as hell if Ussop gets a larger bounty than Luffy.

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                                                  Given the happenings of recent chapters… SOGE KING will have a bounty! But not Usopp..no, definitely not Usopp..

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                                                    Most probably…...yes.
                                                    I see Sanji getting a rather high one....
                                                    I think he and Zoro will start fighting over who has the higher bounty.

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                                                      I don't see why Sanji can't be recon with a bounty. As long as he's sneaky. I mean, half the time people don't recognize Zoro or Luffy.

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                                                        Just can't wait to see how Sanji would be seeing that he has a bounty and what Sanji's bounty sheet will look like. :P

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                                                          Originally posted by meethz@Jul 7 2005, 05:26 AM
                                                          Given the happenings of recent chapters… SOGE KING will have a bounty! But not Usopp..no, definitely not Usopp..
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                                                          The CP9 recognized him as the "Longnose StrawHat", though, so maybe they'll dig up some info and find out his name… But SogeKing bounty suits me, too.

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                                                            well both of them should get a bounty, as they did trash the Marines and they are supposely going to the Marine prison place… so i reckon every straw hat will get a bounty and those already with one will get a huge boost

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                                                              It would be funny to see Usopp's SogeKing mask in a Bounty poster xD

                                                              and they actually write "Soge King Wanted" xD!!!!!!

                                                              Sanji is definately getting a Bounty, Chopper and Nami are still unknown :P

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                                                                what is it with you guys and chopper having a low bounty? I hate to sound cruel, but at least he doesn't lose to a bunch of ink glasses wearing freaks dressed in black barrel overalls with pink stars on them >_> Usopp is cool, I respect him and all, but hes not that much of a threat. sure, hes a real beast One V One, we know this from the merman arc. Hes a funny guy, I like him and all, but in melee fights and for PURE raw power, they won't see him as much because he can't be useful at any time he wants

                                                                hes probably been alot more of a threat than say, chopper or even robin, but because of his lack of power and the fact the marines won't see past his outlook, he'll get a low one. but hey, who says Usopp is getting the bounty? ^__^;

                                                                To me -

                                                                Sogeking - 40 or 60 mil + (purely because he made himself out to be stronger, and for all we know he may be alot stronger than before with this about)
                                                                Chopper - 40 or 50-60 mil +
                                                                Sanji - 50+ mil or 60+ mil… Or 80 + mil
                                                                Franky - near Sanji
                                                                Paulie - near, above or under choppers
                                                                Luffy - definately at this point 150+ at least, but knowing the format it might be a big 200+
                                                                Zoro - I have some stupid psychic predictions its going to be 120+. But definately over 100, or at least near 90

                                                                that or they all get around above 70, Nami included, while people like Zoro, Sanji and Luffy get raised to the skies.

                                                                who the fuck do you think they're opposing >_>

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                                                                  I hate to sound cruel, but at least he doesn't lose to a bunch of ink glasses wearing freaks dressed in black barrel overalls with pink stars on them >_>

                                                                  Oh, haha, I just got that was about Usopp. Well, you see, the thing is, he was ambushed. He didn't even lose a fight, he was ambushed. Until anyone under Sanji is attacked like that, you can't really say anything.

                                                                  And Chopper would get a low bounty because he's not a fighter. He's strong, yes, but he's no threat.

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                                                                  Bad move, bub!

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                                                                    Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 8 2005, 01:01 PM
                                                                    **> I hate to sound cruel, but at least he doesn't lose to a bunch of ink glasses wearing freaks dressed in black barrel overalls with pink stars on them >_>

                                                                    Oh, haha, I just got that was about Usopp. Well, you see, the thing is, he was ambushed. He didn't even lose a fight, he was ambushed. Until anyone under Sanji is attacked like that, you can't really say anything.

                                                                    And Chopper would get a low bounty because he's not a fighter. He's strong, yes, but he's no threat.
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                                                                    I suppose you're right, but he helped defeat Mr. 4 pair, though with Usopp's help. stuff like that, and what he may end up doing soon. >_> If Chopper manages to defeat someone nasty if they get to Enias Lobby, hes getting a bounty, whether he likes that or not.

                                                                    Someone being attacked in their sleep drew alot more of a bad straw than someone being ambushed. Zoro being ambushed… Yeah, I don't see that working well. What I'm saying is, anyone who gives Usopp a bounty more than half of Zoro's current, considering all that, needs their facts checked.

                                                                    Chopper can be a threat. Zoro gets angry at everything, and is more likely to start a fight, but Chopper can if you bug him too. Someone doing Kuina cosplay has been the only thing to hold Zoro off so far. hes not as strong as, Zoro, but stronger than Usopp

                                                                    Zoro would destroy the Franky family if they tried to wreck the Going Merry on first sight, but Chopper might be startled and scream and ask them what they're doing while being distressed. Then he'd Kokutei Roseo them >_>;

                                                                    If Usopp saw them doing it he'd be beaten up by a bunch of ink glasses wearing people wearing black barrel overalls with pink stars on them. Then cry on the floor. >_>; Usopp would rock with a gun. I know he said his slingshot is superior, but to me thats only in terms of striking power and ability to do weird attacks. A pistol is always faster and does one hit KO's.

                                                                    I hate to diss Usopp like this, and I like him as char. I don't think hes weak, but thats why I seem harsh, because I know he can do better. I think hes talented with his markmanship. but for some reason, he just prefers to stand there, lie, use a slingshot and because of that, get beaten by a bunch of ink glasses wearing people wearing black barrel overalls with pink stars on them.

                                                                    oh well. try Ambushing chopper in power or speed point mode, or Sanji, or Luffy or Zoro. you'll get alot of pain as your result

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                                                                      try Ambushing chopper in power or speed point mode

                                                                      Um, he'd only be in one of those modes if he was fighting, which he wouldn't be if he was ambushed.

                                                                      And still, Chopper getting angry doesn't make him a true threat. He's still nearly as reluctant as Usopp to fight, and last time I checked, was deformed by a pack of regular reindeers.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 8 2005, 01:36 PM
                                                                        **> try Ambushing chopper in power or speed point mode

                                                                        Um, he'd only be in one of those modes if he was fighting, which he wouldn't be if he was ambushed.

                                                                        And still, Chopper getting angry doesn't make him a true threat. He's still nearly as reluctant as Usopp to fight, and last time I checked, was deformed by a pack of regular reindeers.
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                                                                        don't mock reindeers >_>

                                                                        Yeah, you last checked 5 years ago. Chopper was a 10 year old

                                                                        With Usopp, I checked 2 days ago. He was being deformed by a group of ink glasses wearing freaks dressed in black barrel overalls with pink stars on them.

                                                                        Chopper didn't know much about his forms, nor did he have battle experience, and he didn't want to injure them, and was confused. Fucking hell. >_>;;

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                                                                          Yeah, you last checked 5 years ago. Chopper was a 10 year old

                                                                          Zanbai alone is at least 22. With age, I'm assuming the family had chances to get stronger than a boy who just sat around in a peaceful village for 17 years.

                                                                          With Usopp, I checked 2 days ago. He was being deformed by a group of ink glasses wearing freaks dressed in black barrel overalls with pink stars on them.

                                                                          I dunno why you bring up their clothes. Bon broke a few of Sanji's ribs, and he was dressed even fruitier than the family. Do you think you'd see it better if they were dressed like CP9? Why would wearing "ink glasses" and "black barrel overalls" hamper their attacks?

                                                                          Oh, and Usopp wasn't even deformed. He still has all of his parts, and is still active after taking far more damage than the first beating. The man's tough, nothing else to it.

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                                                                            Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 8 2005, 01:52 PM
                                                                            **> Yeah, you last checked 5 years ago. Chopper was a 10 year old

                                                                            Zanbai alone is at least 22. With age, I'm assuming the family had chances to get stronger than a boy who just sat around in a peaceful village for 17 years.

                                                                            With Usopp, I checked 2 days ago. He was being deformed by a group of ink glasses wearing freaks dressed in black barrel overalls with pink stars on them.

                                                                            I dunno why you bring up their clothes. Bon broke a few of Sanji's ribs, and he was dressed even fruitier than the family. Do you think you'd see it better if they were dressed like CP9? Why would wearing "ink glasses" and "black barrel overalls" hamper their attacks?

                                                                            Oh, and Usopp wasn't even deformed. He still has all of his parts, and is still active after taking far more damage than the first beating. The man's tough, nothing else to it.
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                                                                            The clothes just makes them look funny and stupid. As a pirate I'd make fun of them for that whether I win or not.

                                                                            Chopper was also in speed point, which focused his body to running, and took out his strength, hence why Power Point is beefy but Speed Point makes him look skinny compared to normal beefy reindeer. Thats what I think, but its close enough.

                                                                            Chopper is an insolated little dude who spent his life indoors reading books, and though he learnt a bit about his forms, barely trained. Usopp obviously took more practice with his slingshot, and that takes more time to learn than just taking a few moments to figure out how your forms work. Chopper didn't even take those few moments to figure them out though, before he fought those reindeer, else he'd smash them. but thats not the point either, if you get hopes up - the reason he fought in speed point was also to prove he could live and fend for himself as a reindeer, by his instinct, I think, anyway. it seemed that way. else he'd power point them, and if thats not why he didn't, then its because he just didn't have any practice back then and didn't figure out his forms.

                                                                            Chopper is still more powerful than Usopp.

                                                                            Usopp age 12 vs those reindeer when charging at him and hes at the edge of a cliff. 'nuff said

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                                                                              The clothes just makes them look funny and stupid. As a pirate I'd make fun of them for that whether I win or not.

                                                                              So you agree that the clothes mean absolutley nothing. Niether does making fun of the clothes.

                                                                              Chopper is an insolated little dude who spent his life indoors reading books, and though he learnt a bit about his forms, barely trained. Usopp obviously took more practice with his slingshot, and that takes more time to learn than just taking a few moments to figure out how your forms work. Chopper didn't even take those few moments to figure them out though, before he fought those reindeer.

                                                                              Learned a bit about his forms? The fact that the Rumble Ball exists means that he had a complete understanding of his body.

                                                                              Chopper is still more powerful than Usopp.

                                                                              This isn't about who is stronger or who would win in a fight. Usopp's growth is exponential. Look at his arsenal when he beat Chu, a guy probably as strong as Chopper. Now look at it. Whether Usopp could beat Luffy or Chopper doesn't matter, the fact that he can stand up to them despite his physical weakness does. He's much more cunning than Chopper. Unless you think that a battered, scrawny Chopper could push Luffy like Usopp did.

                                                                              Oh, and that wasn't Speed Point, that was his regular form.

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                                                                                Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 8 2005, 02:05 PM
                                                                                **> The clothes just makes them look funny and stupid. As a pirate I'd make fun of them for that whether I win or not.

                                                                                So you agree that the clothes mean absolutley nothing. Niether does making fun of the clothes.

                                                                                Chopper is an insolated little dude who spent his life indoors reading books, and though he learnt a bit about his forms, barely trained. Usopp obviously took more practice with his slingshot, and that takes more time to learn than just taking a few moments to figure out how your forms work. Chopper didn't even take those few moments to figure them out though, before he fought those reindeer.

                                                                                Learned a bit about his forms? The fact that the Rumble Ball exists means that he had a complete understanding of his body.

                                                                                Chopper is still more powerful than Usopp.

                                                                                This isn't about who's is stronger or who would win in a fight. Usopp's growth is exponential. Look at his arsenal when he beat Chu, a guy probably as strong as Chopper. Now look at it. Whether Usopp could beat Luffy or Chopper doesn't matter, the fact that he can stand up to them despite his physical weakness does. He's much more cunning than Chopper. Unless you think that a battered, scrawny Chopper could push Luffy like Usopp did.

                                                                                Oh, and that wasn't Speed Point, that was his regular form.
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                                                                                He fought the reindeer way before he knew about the rumble ball. Or was even a doctor. that, and as I said, he wanted to fight looking like a reindeer because back then, as he had no clue about stuff, thought Reindeer form was to fight and probably had some pride he wanted to protect. back then he didn't know power point was for smashing. he didn't make his first rumble ball until he became a doctor

                                                                                to me, the Usopp fight reminded me of Bellamy, the way he kept dragging out but still get toasted. Chopper isn't a fighter as you said, and Usopp claims to be a marksman. Chopper had no training at being cunning, nor did he care, he just wanted to help sick people. Fucking hell. If Usopps meant to be someone who fights for the crew instead of supports, he should be LEAGUES above chopper in raw power, not just a bit more cunning.

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                                                                                  Why do poeple always get into these strawhat v. strawhat arguments? You make Oda sad. :(

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                                                                                    I'm not pitting them against each other, I'm comparing, to explain why Usopp could have a higher bounty than Chopper. I don't know or care who'd win in a fight.

                                                                                    He fought the reindeer way before he knew about the rumble ball

                                                                                    I assumed we were talking about before setting out, since he hadn't seen anything before leaving. Niether did Usopp. Unless you were comparing what happened with Kuro to what happened with Wapol.

                                                                                    to me, the Usopp fight reminded me of Bellamy, the way he kept dragging out but still get toasted.

                                                                                    The fact that he lost doesn't matter. He grew a ton in that fight.

                                                                                    . Chopper isn't a fighter as you said, and Usopp claims to be a marksman.

                                                                                    Who says marksmen are fighters? I've never seen a sniper do well in close range.

                                                                                    Chopper had no training at being cunning, nor did he care, he just wanted to help sick people.

                                                                                    Doesn't matter if he wants to be cunning, because in the end, he isn't. I never claimed he did, I just said Usopp is more cunning.

                                                                                    If Usopps meant to be someone who fights for the crew instead of supports, he should be LEAGUES above chopper in raw power, not just a bit more cunning.

                                                                                    How long has he even had a real crew to fight alongside? Less than a year. Do you think that even hard training from a nothing could put him near any of the monsters in the crew?

                                                                                    And you're also assuming that a good fighter has to be strong physically. Until we see Yasopp win a fist fight, I'll have to disagree.

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                                                                                      _Originally posted by CosmicDebris+Jul 8 2005, 02:16 PM–>QUOTE(CosmicDebris @ Jul 8 2005, 02:16 PM)Why do poeple always get into these strawhat v. strawhat arguments? You make Oda sad.
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                                                                                      dies of the cornyness of that statement >_> I'm not saying I dislike either of them, I like Usopp, perhaps even more than Chopper, but fact remains to me that hes weaker and doesn't need a bigger or equal bounty to Chopper.

                                                                                      if Oda read english and came to www.arlongpark.com boards, I doubt he'd cry over two people who are fans of his manga having seperate opinions on his characters abilities. he'd either be bored or interested, as with anyone reading an argument. the nearest to being sad over this sort of stuff a creator gets to, is "Its only a manga, just enjoy it" or something.

                                                                                      isn't a bounty thread going to turn into strawhat v strawhat anyway? isn't Oda the one drawing Strawhat V Strawhat fights like Luffy v Usopp? Theres so much wrong with those statements its hard to pick out whats what

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                                                                                      **I'm not pitting them against each other, I'm comparing, to explain why Usopp could have a higher bounty than Chopper. I don't know or care who'd win in a fight.

                                                                                      He fought the reindeer way before he knew about the rumble ball

                                                                                      I assumed we were talking about before setting out, since he hadn't seen anything before leaving. Niether did Usopp. Unless you were comparing what happened with Kuro to what happened with Wapol. "rolleyes:

                                                                                      to me, the Usopp fight reminded me of Bellamy, the way he kept dragging out but still get toasted.

                                                                                      The fact that he lost doesn't matter. He grew a ton in that fight.

                                                                                      . Chopper isn't a fighter as you said, and Usopp claims to be a marksman.

                                                                                      Who says marksmen are fighters? I've never seen a sniper do well in close range.

                                                                                      Chopper had no training at being cunning, nor did he care, he just wanted to help sick people.

                                                                                      Doesn't matter if he wants to be cunning, because in the end, he isn't. I never claimed he did, I just said Usopp is more cunning.

                                                                                      If Usopps meant to be someone who fights for the crew instead of supports, he should be LEAGUES above chopper in raw power, not just a bit more cunning.

                                                                                      How long has he even had a real crew to fight alongside? Less than a year. Do you think that even hard training from a nothing could put him near any of the monsters in the crew?

                                                                                      And you're also assuming that a good fighter has to be strong physically. Until we see Yasopp win a fist fight, I'll have to disagree.
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                                                                                      _I should rephrase. physical strength as in the ability to lay opponents to waist. Usopp wanted to be cunning, he liked to lie alot and play pranks. a fighter is someone who attacks someone else. a sniper attacks someone else, in an attempt to lay them to waist. in any other case, I'd agree that strength is something else, but these are pirates. isn't it constantly said in the series that a fight between pirates is a fight to either the death or to defeat and that the methods don't matter?

                                                                                      As for before setting out, you said "last I checked he was being deformed by reindeers" (don't make fun of reindeer >__>) as if to compare that to Usopp being beaten by a bunch of weak ink glasses wearing people who had black barrels with pink stars on them around their waist, when Usopp had set out by that time and by the time Chopper was waisted by reindeers, he never set out and obviously had no rumble ball, and was using Speed Point and therefore not fighting prope- forget it x.x I'm just repeating stuff because all the stuff I say is being ignored x.x_

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                                                                                        Methinks you took the statement a little too seriously, Reiza. :)

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                                                                                          a sniper attacks someone else, in an attempt to lay them to waist.

                                                                                          Snipers attack indirectly, though. If they can't beat you with one shot, usually when you can't even see them, then they're in trouble. A good sniper can kill a strong man, but doesn't have to be anything, physically.

                                                                                          Oh, and I wasn't comparing the beatings they endured. They're too different to compare. I just said Chopper was also beaten in a group, when he wasn't even ambushed.

                                                                                          Remember, the main point is bounties. Whether Chopper had beaten them all or Usopp had a chance doesn't matter, because those were just instances. And on bounties, also remember that physical strength isn't all. Bellamy mutilated Roshio, who had a lower bounty, but, would have gotten raped by Foxy, who has a much lesser bounty. It all depends on what you can do, not who you can fight and beat.

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                                                                                            Originally posted by Buccaneer@Jul 8 2005, 02:32 PM
                                                                                            **> a sniper attacks someone else, in an attempt to lay them to waist.

                                                                                            Snipers attack indirectly, though. If they can't beat you with one shot, usually when you can't even see them, then they're in trouble. A good sniper can kill a strong man, but doesn't have to be anything, physically.

                                                                                            Oh, and I wasn't comaring the beatings they endured. They're too different to compare. I just said Chopper was also beaten in a group, when he wasn't even ambushed.

                                                                                            Remember, the main point is bounties. Whether Chopper had beaten them all or Usopp had a chance doesn't matter, because those were just instances. And on bounties, also remember that physical strength isn't all. Bellamy mutilated Roshio, who had a lower bounty, but, would have gotten raped by Foxy, who has a much lesser bounty. It all depends on what you can do, not who you can fight and beat.
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                                                                                            I get the idea about the group thing. its just he had no ability to fight then.

                                                                                            Its just judging on Usopps looks at first glance. he seems to lie alot, falters and his attacks don't appear to do much. they'd be more likely to give a creepy little reindeer thing that can change shape and smash scores of enemies with one hoove if angered a higher bounty.

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                                                                                              As of 373:
                                                                                              Lying and faltering seems like no threat, yes… But shooting the CP5 leader in the face, smoke-bombing the CP9, and grabbing Nico Robin seems like a threat to me. Besides, he already nailed several of the agents on the way there, and managed to sneak past the carriages (using Octopucts) without alarming anyone.

                                                                                              Well, until they both start shouting at each other, that is.

                                                                                              Note that we don't know yet of the outcome after SogeKing grabbed Robin...

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                                                                                                Originally posted by changsho@Jul 8 2005, 05:34 PM
                                                                                                **As of 373:
                                                                                                Lying and faltering seems like no threat, yes… But shooting the CP5 leader in the face, smoke-bombing the CP9, and grabbing Nico Robin seems like a threat to me. Besides, he already nailed several of the agents on the way there, and managed to sneak past the carriages (using Octopucts) without alarming anyone.

                                                                                                Well, until they both start shouting at each other, that is.

                                                                                                Note that we don't know yet of the outcome after SogeKing grabbed Robin...
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                                                                                                It'd be pretty bad for Usopp to get a bounty if he doesn't rejoin the strawhats.. he'd be toast..

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                                                                                                  Usopp: 300,000,000
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                                                                                                    I'd have to say it's near impossible for Sanji to NOT get a bounty at this point.

                                                                                                    Likewise, I imagine Sogeking getting a bounty as well, possibly Usopp, but for comedic purposes, more likely Sogeking.

                                                                                                    On another note: Do you guys think Nico Robin's bounty will go up after this is all over and she rejoins the Straw Hats?

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                                                                                                      I don't really. While she is pissing people off, I don't see them raising her bounty. But they might raise it because she's free from them completely, I dunno.

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