I'm talking about Kizaru, though? Kidd's a full question mark, but Kizaru's ability is just basically hax and there's no way out of it.
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Yes his df is broken too,its just… wtf
I'm talking about Kizaru, though? Kidd's a full question mark, but Kizaru's ability is just basically hax and there's no way out of it.
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Yes his df is broken too,its just… wtf
I love how explanation to all critisism is "Oda will fix it".
More to the point, we should consider why it was broken in the first place.
We are not talking about all out fights here. We are talking about not one attack being shown. No struggle presented. The fact that focus will be placed on those characters later has not stopped him from showing interesting fights in the past, why should it now? Crocodile would be a prime example here. Or Eneru.
Funny how you mention Crocodile and Eneru. Remember how in the 3rd fight, Croc went retarded for no good reason and simply didn't use his ability (probably because it was old news by now) and with Eneru, he came up with some electric Buddha form from nowhere. Basically they tried to do stuff we had not seen them trying to do before. Oda was trying to keep them fresh all the time.
Just look at Caesar. In each confrontation, he came up with something new: Gastanets followed by off-screen Karakuni -> On-screen Karakuni and blue fire gas sword thing -> Gastille and Shinokuni One-Winged Angel.
Also, we just found out what Machvise's ability was in this very chapter (and we still didn't get the name of his DF. Why is that?). And people like Lao G and Dellinger still have shown very little of their fighting styles (probably so that it becomes more surprising when we get real fights later). Oda is actually using those as stuff to look forward to.
So yeah, this isn't a question of stuff being broken and "Oda fixing it". He's just holding out information to reveal it later.
Because dismissal of critisism in any way, shape or form in those forums is and always has been really annoying? It's as good reason as any.
But, nevertheless, I apologise.
Is not dismiss, but when the same person is coming every week to do the same shit then it gets really annoying. I feel annoyed by Toryish (I think that the one) every time he makes a post because he has made his own plans for the New World and since things are not going his way, he isn't enjoying it like he used to do it before, but is everything good, If I can enjoy then I don't give a shit about anyone else.
Is not dismiss, but when the same person is coming every week to do the same shit then it gets really annoying. I feel annoyed by Toryish (I think that the one) every time he makes a post because he has made his own plans for the New World and since things are not going his way, he isn't enjoying it like he used to do it before, but is everything good, If I can enjoy then I don't give a shit about anyone else.
Hey now, everybody is entitled to criticism, some of them I even find valid even though I love this arc. If you can't deal with them, then just ignore it, but don't go mocking other users for it.
Also, stop assuming stuff about other users.
Sabo can and will hold Fujitora, but defeat him. Nope, Issho is the kind of people we probably will never see being defeated.
Hey now, everybody is entitled to criticism, some of them I even find valid even though I love this arc. If you can't deal with them, then just ignore it, but don't go mocking other users for it.
Also, stop assuming stuff about other users.
Do you see me quoting people left and right every time they go on a rampage? Who am I mocking exactly and whose assuming, I don't have to assume shit since everybody knows who x person is anyways.
Sabo can and will hold Fujitora, but defeat him. Nope, Issho is the kind of people we probably will never see being defeated.
yes he can hold fuji but to defeat is impossible.
maybe fuji doesnt want to fight because his main goal
is to protect civilians
Just be patient Dry-guy
Oda explained Buggy's powers more clearly after over 450+ chapters.
He explained a little clearer Bon Clay and Croc's abilities after 300+ pages.
It's not like Kizaru (and the other characters which abilities irk you a little) are dead, Oda still has time to explain limits and all that, the next time they show up.
I have a odd feeling that fuji will help SH and co. …. And that the big fight with all of Dofla's family and Dofla himself will come sooner rather then later. I think it will be Luffy and Law vs Dofla, he seems quite a lot stronger then them individually...
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Just be patient Dry-guy
Oda explained Buggy's powers more clearly after over 450+ chapters.
He explained a little clearer Bon Clay and Croc's abilities after 300+ pages.It's not like Kizaru (and the other characters which abilities irk you a little) are dead, Oda still has time to explain limits and all that, the next time they show up.
Though there has been a lot of guys who we have seen early on, and met again, but he never explained their powers in detail, like bellamy, Kuzan, Ace, Mr 2, Mr 1… etc.
Just be patient Dry-guy
Oda explained Buggy's powers more clearly after over 450+ chapters.
He explained a little clearer Bon Clay and Croc's abilities after 300+ pages.It's not like Kizaru (and the other characters which abilities irk you a little) are dead, Oda still has time to explain limits and all that, the next time they show up.
But we will never get realistic physics for powers.
Mostly because it would make some characters ungodly broken and overpowered.
For example, Akainu and Aokiji, if you would use realistic portrayl of temperature. Akainu especially.
But we will never get realistic physics for powers.
Mostly because it would make some characters ungodly broken and overpowered.
For example, Akainu and Aokiji, if you would use realistic portrayl of temperature. Akainu especially.
Lol, you're just asking to baited with this.
But anyway getting elemental powers like Lava and Ice are supposed to make you appear really strong. That's why all the Admirals were presented with 3 Logias, to look really cool.
Logias were supposed to be hax in the first place, then there was Haki's intangibility bypass, but their strength still stands.
Lol, you're just asking to baited with this.
But anyway getting elemental powers like Lava and Ice are supposed to make you appear really strong. That's why all the Admirals were presented with 3 Logias, to look really cool.
Logias were supposed to be hax in the first place, then there was Haki's intangibility bypass, but their strength still stands.
Nah, Kizaru, Kid, Fujitora, Whitebeard, Aokiji, Akainu… all of their powers would be horribly broken if threaten as normal physics go.
I agree logias are still hax, but people don't seem to realize how powerful some of them really should be.
That would be disappointing after such a big arc with so much villainy on Doflamingo's part. LIke Croc being beaten after Alabasta. It's just kinda disappointing. This is what I held to early in the arc when people were saying Doffy might outlast this arc, and what they were arguing made sense then. But, really, this arc ending without Doffy's defeat now?
I don't know, dd is so smart and well established i can't believe he ain't got no safe exit strategy. Other than that he has still to be beaten and if the previous arcs meant something i expect luffy to be defeated another time more before getting to dd.
and there's still kanjuro to be revealed. the factory. i hope to be wrong but i fear we still got months ahead before seeing the end of this thing.
Sabo can and will hold Fujitora, but defeat him. Nope, Issho is the kind of people we probably will never see being defeated.
Don't worry, he wil not see his defeat either. SHAAAAAAAHAHAHA!!!
Oh ! It gives me a nice idea of the question thread…
I think devil fruits can only have one purpose. and that it belongs inside of the person. We have never seen anyone who can manipulate things outside their boundary. Kid's fruit allowed things to attract to him and repel away from him, this because he ate the devil fruit. It's not like he can make someone's body malfunction from just thinking it. Kuzan is a prime example, he had to touch things to freeze or shoot out ice to freeze things from his body. We have never seen kuzan just "think" and something just freezes. The only thing I can see kid do is pull people and push people like pain in naruto.
You mean, like Robin can grow members on everything in sight ?
Nah, Kizaru, Kid, Fujitora, Whitebeard, Aokiji, Akainu… all of their powers would be horribly broken if threaten as normal physics go.
I agree logias are still hax, but people don't seem to realize how powerful some of them really should be.
Hey, Ace could kill everyone around him (and quite a distance away) just by heating up to couple of thousands of degrees Celsius. Entei should have killed Blackbeard just by being there, for example.
Well going by that kind of logic Kizaru should be an unstoppable god able to essentially teleport anywhere at will and could wipe out all the pirates in the one piece world in a day.
Well going by that kind of logic Kizaru should be an unstoppable god able to essentially teleport anywhere at will and could wipe out all the pirates in the one piece world in a day.
I don't think so. He's only human, with human brain and human reflexes. He'd never be able to use the full potential of his fruit.
I don't think so. He's only human, with human brain and human reflexes. He'd never be able to use the full potential of his fruit.
What if he were an alien in the OP world :wassat:
Acid fruit and Nuclear fruit, can't wait for those two guys.
Acid fruit and Nuclear fruit, can't wait for those two guys.
The other new admiral could well have one of those powers. :D
It's weird Luffy's motivation to go after the bad guy is brought up so much lately.
Honestly, I feel like there will always be someone with a bigger grudge against the villain. Who wanted Crocodile dead the most, Vivi, Cobra, Pell, or Luffy? Who brought him down? And who wanted Enel dead the most, Gan Fall, Wiper, or Luffy? And Wapol? And Hody Jones?
I know here in Dressrosa the amount of people that want Doffy to bite the dust are legion, but Luffy does have some beef with him and Oda's been showing it progressively: Rebecca's unfair treatment by the whole country, the gladiator prisoners, the "darkness" of Dressrosa that Luffy already linked to Goa, and, specially, Dofla shooting Law in front of Luffy. There's been plenty of ocasions for Luffy to build up hate for Dofla. And there's still some stuff left to make him even more despicable in Luffy's eyes.
And yet, by the end of it, if you honestly analyze it, Kyros, Dold, Rebecca, Violet. . .all of them would still have more reasons to bust Doffy than Luffy will ever have. Hell, random unnamed Riku soldier number xxxx that's been turned into a toy for the past TEN YEARS, forgotten by all his loved ones, this random guy has more reason to hate Doffy than Luffy will have in his entire life. Random king turned into a toy, too. Random fucking GORILLA has a much much much bigger grudge against Dofla than Luffy.
Luffy just needs to have a reason to kick the villain's ass. Remember how Luffy wasn't into it during Caesar's second fight, but by the third he was really pissed off, and sent him flying. Still, did that make him the ONE to hate Caesar the most? Nope. Brownbeard obviously hated him more. Or Momo. Or even Chopper, who was devastated with how the children were treated by Caesar and couldn't stop crying. Luffy didn't bond that much with anyone, but a single explanation from Momo made him rage hard. That's all we ask of Luffy, and he already has that against Doffy, and it will grow even more.
It's weird Luffy's motivation to go after the bad guy is brought up so much lately.
Honestly, I feel like there will always be someone with a bigger grudge against the villain. Who wanted Crocodile dead the most, Vivi, Cobra, Pell, or Luffy? Who brought him down? And who wanted Enel dead the most, Gan Fall, Wiper, or Luffy? And Wapol? And Hody Jones?
I know here in Dressrosa the amount of people that want Doffy to bite the dust are legion, but Luffy does have some beef with him and Oda's been showing it progressively: Rebecca's unfair treatment by the whole country, the gladiator prisoners, the "darkness" of Dressrosa that Luffy already linked to Goa, and, specially, Dofla shooting Law in front of Luffy. There's been plenty of ocasions for Luffy to build up hate for Dofla. And there's still some stuff left to make him even more despicable in Luffy's eyes.
And yet, by the end of it, if you honestly analyze it, Kyros, Dold, Rebecca, Violet. . .all of them would still have more reasons to bust Doffy than Luffy will ever have. Hell, random unnamed Riku soldier number xxxx that's been turned into a toy for the past TEN YEARS, forgotten by all his loved ones, this random guy has more reason to hate Doffy than Luffy will have in his entire life. Random king turned into a toy, too. Random fucking GORILLA has a much much much bigger grudge against Dofla than Luffy.
Luffy just needs to have a reason to kick the villain's ass. Remember how Luffy wasn't into it during Caesar's second fight, but by the third he was really pissed off, and sent him flying. Still, did that make him the ONE to hate Caesar the most? Nope. Brownbeard obviously hated him more. Or Momo. Or even Chopper, who was devastated with how the children were treated by Caesar and couldn't stop crying. Luffy didn't bond that much with anyone, but a single explanation from Momo made him rage hard. That's all we ask of Luffy, and he already has that against Doffy, and it will grow even more.
Someone should tell Luffy that one of Dofla's subordinates tried to sell one of his friends 2 years ago, Luffy Berserk mode activated.
Acid fruit and Nuclear fruit, can't wait for those two guys.
Green Bull sounds like it can be acid DF user.
In One Piece poison seemed to be in this colour
So I would expect that if there will be acid fruit it will be green. Greeb Bull having acid logia would be cool.
You mean, like Robin can grow members on everything in sight ?
it's her ability to grow things. And it's limited as in places, range, and size. We never seen her make a leg appear in midair right? If that was possible she could kick earth to crash into the moon. Stuff like this is just impossible.
it's her ability to grow things. And it's limited as in places, range, and size. We never seen her make a leg appear in midair right? If that was possible she could kick earth to crash into the moon. Stuff like this is just impossible.
Have you even read Dragonbal or the last Naruto chapters or Marvell for that matter? Anything is possible. :D Let's change reality itself shall we?
what with the fuji debate here, sure he is the strongest in the Island but People consider him godlike , I even see fans who says Fuji>AKainu or Whitebeard , where
currently his feats are below Admiral Level…. 1 Meteor where Akainu can sends 100Fist same size in that time , or whitebeard tilt an Island.....http://elbrooklyntaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/wtf-meme.jpg
What the hell are you talking about?
Man, there's nothing that cheers me up during a long day at work like a nonsensical darkmninya post.
Good times.
So I would expect that if there will be acid fruit it will be green. Greeb Bull having acid logia would be cool.
green cool
forgive me
Man, there's nothing that cheers me up during a long day at work like a nonsensical darkmninya post.
Good times.
sorry i poted wrong Forum lol -.-,
anyways how can franky destroy the factory there are no keys anymore and seastone is harder than Diamond?
sorry i poted wrong Forum lol -.-,
anyways how can franky destroy the factory there are no keys anymore and seastone is harder than Diamond?
FRANKY's NIPPLES LASERBEAMS!!!!
Franky is going to melt that shit.
With one nipple.
He'll pwn Fujitora with the other.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuranky Beaaammm! First enforced metal or wapometal at PH, not Kairoseki. Is it that impossible, when we have people destroying those keys left and right? And if nothing helps, he will use his normal hands to crack the lock of the door anyway. Franky lockpicking mode activated.
Don Chinjao head-butt opens anything.
Man, there's nothing that cheers me up during a long day at work like a nonsensical darkmninya post.
Good times.
You and your internet bullying techniques!
Franky is going to melt that shit.
With one nipple.
He'll pwn Fujitora with the other.
You know, now I sort of want this to happen. I'd laugh my ass off!
One of my pals posted a short review over at http://ourinkedobsession.com/ if you guys want to check it.
Overall, I enjoyed the chapter and loved Pica. Definitely one of my faves from Doffy's group.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuranky Beaaammm! First enforced metal or wapometal at PH, not Kairoseki. Is it that impossible, when we have people destroying those keys left and right? And if nothing helps, he will use his normal hands to crack the lock of the door anyway. Franky lockpicking mode activated.
Now that you mentioned Franky should be able to do something with his beans since Kizaru was able to brake Luffy's key, so is not that imposible
Now that you mentioned Franky should be able to do something with his beans since Kizaru was able to brake Luffy's key, so is not that imposible
Luffy's key was not made of Seastone if that's what you're saying.
Luffy's key was not made of Seastone if that's what you're saying.
And you know that because?
Maybe it's so small that it doesn't have a big effect, even though I admit that's not a sound argument. :T
Maybe it's so small that it doesn't have a big effect, even though I admit that's not a sound argument. :T
Why waste Seastone on keys?
I would like to see a key with Mr1's devil fruit…
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Because Luffy, a Devil Fruit user, was holding it?
Ahhhh that, I would assume that you create the cuffs and the keys with the same material and that's not wasted at all
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I would like to see a key with Mr1's devil fruit…
Wait what?
Why waste Seastone on keys?
We can't talk about wasting a few gramms of seastone on keys, when they use tons to coat all their new battleships. A key would be literally nothing in comparison.
Ahhhh that, I would assume that you create the cuffs and the keys with the same material and that's not wasted at all
That's not really possible. You need to cut away to into the cuff to make the keyhole, and you need to cut away into a block to make a key. You can't just cut a really thin line intricately inside a block and pop out a key :p
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We can't talk about wasting a few gramms of seastone on keys, when they use tons to coat all their new battleships. A key would be literally nothing in comparison.
It's still something lol. Seastone costs loads of money … in the battleships, they're willing to use a bit, and that amongst other things makes the battleships cost a fortune. And the guys who want the battleships think it's worth paying for. But why should that mean that the guy buying the key will want a ridiculously expensive key when he could just buy a cheap one ...
What about the big seastone chains though? A key would take up 1/100 to 1/200 of their mass or 1/20-1/50 of the normal cuffs. It's still nothing in comparison. Why create cuffs, but have keys that are easily broken, which would turn the cuffs useless and would force them to cut the prisoners hands? Make some sense out of that.
What about the big seastone chains though? A key would take up 1/100 to 1/200 of their mass or 1/20-1/50 of the normal cuffs. It's still nothing in comparison. Why create cuffs, but have keys that are easily broken, which would turn the cuffs useless and would force them to cut the prisoners hands? Make some sense out of that.
You can get a new key cut! On the other hand, if you lose the seastone key, you'd still need a new one and that would be very expensive. Not to mention, you might also want multiple sets of keys in some cases (in Impel Down, for example). Not to mention, the harder that the keys are to damage, to harder they are to cut -> yet more expensive.
It's just all round dumb; there is no compelling reason to make keys out of seastone.