Woah Pika's huge. No wonder he thinks he can deal with everyone on their own. I wonder who will deal with him. Zoro Luffy double team maybe?
Ow and Zoro clashes swords with Fuji again. Cool :p
Woah Pika's huge. No wonder he thinks he can deal with everyone on their own. I wonder who will deal with him. Zoro Luffy double team maybe?
Ow and Zoro clashes swords with Fuji again. Cool :p
I need better translation. If we go by the Panda one, Fujitora's logic is at Bleach level of stupid.
Please, someone tell me he actually has a good reason that fits his established character…
It's a bad chapter to be me.
It also sounds stupid in Aohige's spoiler summary
So it probably is stupid.
I need better translation. If we go by the Panda one, Fujitora's logic is at Bleach level of stupid.
Please, someone tell me he actually has a good reason that fits his established character…
It's a bad chapter to be me.
To me this is situation building.
If Luffy defeats Pica, while Zoro faces him, he'll realize that the Strawhats are strong, he will trust their strenght and and let them go for Doflamingo. That way he gets what he wants without breaking any rule.
To me this is situation building. If Luffy defeats Pica, while Zoro faces him, he'll realize that the Strawhats are strong, he will trust their strenght and and let them go for Doflamingo. That way he gets what he wants without breaking any rule.
Wat? He's on DD's side for this. He also has to capture the strawhats.
Dear god, after this cover:
http://i.imgur.com/pvDyFhK.jpg
prepare to be floated with Mihawk & Perona's 'romance' fanart.
looking forward to it hahhaa
If someone/ when someone gives Pika a pasting, DD is gunna be piiiiissed.
I guess no zoan for Mach
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Dear god, after this cover:
http://i.imgur.com/pvDyFhK.jpg
prepare to be floated with Mihawk & Perona's 'romance' fanart.
Is it bad that I actually don't mind this? lol.
It's time Mihawk gets some…some.
To me this is situation building.
If Luffy defeats Pica, while Zoro faces him, he'll realize that the Strawhats are strong, he will trust their strenght and and let them go for Doflamingo. That way he gets what he wants without breaking any rule.
Eh, and what does he want, exactly?
great ; chapter
How the hell are people still upset about Fujitora? It's really fucking clear that there are going to be huge consequences for doing anything bad to Doflamingo, likely from the WG. Has everyone forgotten Doffy attacking Moria at the end of the war, saying his orders came from someone "higher" than Sengoku? And the WG official he spoke to after that, who we still know nothing about?
Maynard literally confirmed it - there would be huge consequences for the Marines arresting Doflamingo. And we still don't really understand his early history or exact relationship with the higher parts of the WG. But people are still acting like it's random and nonsensical for Fujitora to not want to arrest him now.
Actually Koala is pretty smart: if it gets public that kingdoms from the WG deal on the black market they might get exposed from the WG. This way the WG weakens itself by one kingdom. Somehow Fujitora's chat with Maynard went down in the translation. Is he going to take down Doffy or not. Doffy himself shows similarities with Roger this chapter:"Anyone who laughs at my nakama is doomed." And Luffy totally hilarious exactly does that what Doffy would enrage the most. These are situations where I love Luffy's behaviour. If anything is totally not allowed you can be sure Luffy does it 6 panels later. Also that is a Thing that only Oda can do with lightness. Showing a totally badass lookin hulk and give him a high pitched voice. Classic MasterBlaster-Twist!
Still no sign of Burgess.
Also is it just me or is there an excess amount of enemies?
Wat? He's on DD's side for this. He also has to capture the strawhats.
fuji is not on mingo's side.. you can tell he's about to snap, and his anger is clearly towards the WG for letting doffy (and other world nobles as well) get away with stuff like this..
How the hell are people still upset about Fujitora? It's really fucking clear that there are going to be huge consequences for doing anything bad to Doflamingo, likely from the WG. Has everyone forgotten Doffy attacking Moria at the end of the war, saying his orders came from someone "higher" than Sengoku? And the WG official he spoke to after that, who we still know nothing about?
Maynard literally confirmed it - there would be huge consequences for the Marines arresting Doflamingo. And we still don't really understand his early history or exact relationship with the higher parts of the WG. But people are still acting like it's random and nonsensical for Fujitora to not want to arrest him now.
Problem: This explenation does not fit the character presented earlier for Fujitora.
Maynard literally confirmed it - there would be huge consequences for the Marines arresting Doflamingo. And we still don't really understand his early history or exact relationship with the higher parts of the WG. But people are still acting like it's random and nonsensical for Fujitora to not want to arrest him now.
Confirmed what? He really wanted to go after Doffy.
fuji is not on mingo's side.. he's just following his orders to go after the alliance/protecting the citzens, you can tell he's about to snap though. i'm gonna say his anger is clearly towards the WG for letting doffy (and other world nobles as well) get away with stuff like this, and he know's he can't do anything about it given his position.. whatever happens next, i can see it leading to him sending luffy to deal with mingo.
Bloody hell…
MAYNARD SAYS IT IN THIS CHAPTER: MARINES CAN GO AFTER FLAMINGO.
Only, for some reason, they decided not to.
I really want Fujitora to have a good explenation for his action, but the problem is that he doesn't.
I guess no zoan for Mach.
Guess no. Probably changing the waight of stuff around him, like Dellinger said heavy for some reason.
Like I said before, there must be some really good reason to why Fuji is not going after Mingo, and that will be probably revealed later on.
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Guess no. Probably changing the waight of stuff around him, like Dellinger said heavy for some reason.
It looks like Kilo Kilo no Mi 2.0.
Problem: This explenation does not fit the character presented earlier for Fujitora.
I think it's unfair to have preconceived judgement his character like that before we even knew a thing about him.
luffy : zoro not that way!
law : strawhat not this way!
LOL
mihawk really need that cute/funny treatment. he's always so boringly cool. i used to feel the same about law but since he 'join' the strawhats he got many funny remarks/situation which enrich his character. mihawk needs that and this cover is pretty nice.
i cant comment much about fujitora as i dont understand what he's doing from this translation. gonna wait for a better one or ask aohige/ccc to fully translate fuji's speech properly.
dofla cares about his 'family' is already apparent since punk hazard so no big surprise there. i just want to see a scene about dofla's dream of being the pirate king (just as monet suggested).
Did Baby 5 talked about the body of that guy for his family and then they throw it into the pit(made by the elevated flower fields)?
Fujitora wants to end the Shichibukai not just Doflamingo. He will let Doflamingo do the best he can do and than because of that Fujitora will have enough prove(Crocodile, Law, Doflamingo, Shinbe, …) that Shichibukai do worse than good.
Just like he said in this chapter, the marines and the world government let's a lot of bad shit happens, so why not let it happen now too?
Ah, thx for Clearing the Fuji intentions. He thinks a few steps further and in a bigger scale. Baby5 meant that if Pika dealt with the newbie nothing would remain from him, so his family can't have an ordinary funeral (without a body a funeral is worth nothing i guess).
I think it's unfair to judge his character like that before we even knew a thing about him.
And exactly how much characterization do you need? You mean to tell that all of his scenes up till now have been pointless and have no meaning?
So many things are happening in different parts of the island, and even though it's a little confusing I absolutely love it.
very funny where panel zoro njejeg delinger .. it hard laought.. lol . llol
Great chapter. It covered enough story too. Was looking forward to a coc burst but fujitora…. his character slump has been going on for a while now. Though its clear now that doffy is aware of his threat, which is good to see cause this was mentioned so many times after the chapter "birdcage". Wouldnt mind seeing what he's planned for him though. And destroying the keys? i dont get it, how will get the product out of the factory now?
Its clear now that we will be getting some good action after a while now. However with law in cuffs , zoro butting swords with fujitora and pica becoming oars sized, how will luffy get to doflamingo and still stand a chance to win. My best guess is sabo and kanjuro are gonna play a part in that. Cause he disappeared in this chapter and we already know that kanjuro escaped from the scrap heap. It is getting kinda messy again though but its obvious now that finale of the arc is here.
Maybe we'll even find out whats up the sunny in a few weeks.
is this kingdom ship koala discovered from the same kingdom as the guy whose tongue was cut off by bartolomeo?
And exactly how much characterization do you need? You mean to tell that all of his scenes up till now have been pointless and have no meaning?
That's the problem. He hasn't really had much characterization before this point. You just took a few words that he's said and you're centering his entire character around that.He also does raise a good point about not going after him. You're not trying to understand where he's coming from.
I hope no. I don't want miss Valentine to dye.
I'm not saying it is Kilo Kilo no Mi, just that looks like it, instead of Kilos it is Tons.
is this kingdom ship koala discovered from the same kingdom as the guy whose tongue was cut off by bartolomeo?
Remind me when was it said that Barto cut off a tongue, I don't remember it at all.
And Doffy's past… I guess there never was a case wher a tenryuubito shot his own father (I guess Doffy shot, I mean, that's a WorldNoble-thing with the pistol). I am excited about a Doffy/Corazon/Law-Flashback, we maybe find out who is the guy Doffy talked to right after the war. Guess it's the Cp0-"Spandam". He maybe wanted Moria dead so that he can have the Kage Kage no Mi. Spandam also got his hands on 2 DFs he gave to Kaku and Kalifa. Doffy also obtained the Mera Mera no Mi sumhow and we saw what happens to a DF if its eater is dead (the Axolotl-incident with the apple).
Remind me when was it said that Barto cut off a tongue, I don't remember it at all.
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I don't think it says were is he from thought.
EDIT: Actually it does on the previous page. lol
Eh, and what does he want, exactly?
Having Doflamingo defeated he would prevent him to take over the country and keep harming civillians.
Since he can't do anything against Doflamingo for now, if he thinks that Luffy is able to take him down it'd be coherent to let him do it.
Problem: This explenation does not fit the character presented earlier for Fujitora.
What character? The guy that said that instead of knowing the enemy numbers was best to see the number of people to protect? Do you understand that him knowing the number of innocents and the number of people that Dofla killed or did something bad to, will give him advantage when he tries to end the Shichibukais right?(In Alabasta the numbers were never told and so all the stuff was covered up. Or do you forgot what Happened to make Smoker tell the World Government to eat their own shit. Or with Moria where nobody knows that Luffy kicked his ass?) It was never like he was a goody goody guy. He was all this time expecting for major causalities, and we know that he will help them only after all been said and done, and that is why he called for medical ships: to cure/help people wounded, and not to prevent them from being wounded.
We know that he wants to destroy the Shichibukai, and we know that he has blind Justice and we know that he called for Medical Ships and looked for the number of civilians way before the tragedy happened. What is so out of character? He wants to screw every shichibukai the most as possible. Law is already screwed so he will capture him and the Strawhats, that are the reason why Law screwed. He wants Doflamingo to go rampage in his own people to later be able to say how many people Doflamingo killed and injured.
He will gather all the information possible against the Shichibukais and than do something in the reverie that possible will enable him to destroy that group. With the numbers of the tragedy what Doflamingo did will not be able to be covered up, because numbers don't lie.
Now the question is, how much will Fujitora let Doflamingo go rampage? And what will he do after that? Will he personally go kick Doflamingo Ass, or will he let others, like Luffy. In the case he let's Luffy, he as one more reason in his favor as why Shichibukai have to be dissolved. They were made to scare and destroy other pirates, but they are getting their asses kicked by the pirates they should scare and beat. So not only they do bad things against the world government, but they are incompetent at the same time.
That's the problem. He hasn't really had much characterization before this point. You just took a few words that he's said and you're centering his entire character around that.He also does raise a good point about not going after him. You're not trying to understand where he's coming from.
Really? In the most recent chapters, what good points have been raised about not going after him?
And we can't discern nothing from what been shown thus far. We need at least an arc worth of material for that, gotch ya.
Because that's how interpretation of text based work goes. You can ignore material presented, as long as there isn't much of it.
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Having Doflamingo defeated he would prevent him to take over the country and keep harming civillians.
Since he can't do anything against Doflamingo for now, if he thinks that Luffy is able to take him down it'd be coherent to let him do it.
Why he can't do anything against Doflamingo right now? Because this newest chapter suggest that it is his decision.
Lol…just imagining the actual voice of Pica makes my stomach hurts....just what u expect from luffy...he hits him right on the target with just his laugh... and now the agony of waiting for the anime begins…
Where did Sabo go? If he is just like Luffy then I guess he went directly to Doffy, After all the higher executif are there with him except for Pica who just made his move
Nice chapter.
Pretty clear to me what Fuji wants. He already stated that he doesn't like the Shichi system of the governement and other things the government does. What he wants is the people to take their own justice, enjoy their rage and instigate them to go against the world gov. He already stated that just overthrowing a shichibukai won't change a thing, because they will easily name a new one.
He wants the people to change the system themselves for the bigger impact than just arrest one to get a new one.
His behavior supports his whole character theme of justice and furthermore also strengthens his opposite position towards what the gov is doing.
Pretty much like how Oda is playing it.
I'm guessing Sabo is coming for Fujitora. Right now he (and possibly burgess) are the only people on the island who can take him
what i'd like to see though is kanjuro, zoro and kinemon taking on Fuji. That would be a sight to behold
Edit: does anyone else think that a military junta might be incoming. Fuji's comments show a distaste for the WG
What character? The guy that said that instead of knowing the enemy numbers was best to see the number of people to protect? Do you understand that him knowing the number of innocents and the number of people that Dofla killed or did something bad to, will give him advantage when he tries to end the Shichibukais right?(In Alabasta the numbers were never told and so all the stuff was covered up. Or do you forgot what Happened to make Smoker tell the World Government to eat their own shit. Or with Moria where nobody knows that Luffy kicked his ass?) It was never like he was a goody goody guy. He was all this time expecting for major causalities, and we know that he will help them only after all been said and done, and that is why he called for medical ships: to cure/help people wounded, and not to prevent them from being wounded.
We know that he wants to destroy the Shichibukai, and we know that he has blind Justice and we know that he called for Medical Ships and looked for the number of civilians way before the tragedy happened. What is so out of character? He wants to screw every shichibukai the most as possible. Law is already screwed so he will capture him and the Strawhats, that are the reason why Law screwed. He wants Doflamingo to go rampage in his own people to later be able to say how many people Doflamingo killed and injured.
He will gather all the information possible against the Shichibukais and than do something in the reverie that possible will enable him to destroy that group. With the numbers of the tragedy what Doflamingo did will not be able to be covered up, because numbers don't lie.Now the question is, how much will Fujitora let Doflamingo go rampage? And what will he do after that? Will he personally go kick Doflamingo Ass, or will he let others, like Luffy. In the case he let's Luffy, he as one more reason in his favor as why Shichibukai have to be dissolved. They were made to scare and destroy other pirates, but they are getting their asses kicked by the pirates they should scare and beat. So not only they do bad things against the world government, but they are incompetent at the same time.
Wait. Are you implying that Fujitora deliberatly planned for civilians to get massacred so that he can dessolve shichibukai?
Don't get me wrong, it's a machiavellan scheme that I like, and that would fit Akainu's way of doing things, but Fujitora?
Altough… man, that would be briliant. One of the main facets of machiavellan political philosophy is to appear as virtuous, even when one is not.
It would explain everything.
But I dunno if Oda went that way to begin with. I don't believe that was the case.
Baby5 meant that if Pika dealt with the newbie nothing would remain from him, so his family can't have an ordinary funeral (without a body a funeral is worth nothing i guess).
I know, but then they get rid of his body, so how will anybody be able to find it? And it will be transfigured to boot, so how will you know that is really him. Obviously they didn't thought of that thoroughly, being him just a random guy that wasn't only a newbie, but laughed at Pika as well.
In the end it was funny. She says that and than throws him away.
Interesting chapter, enjoyed it very much. Isshou is starting to grow on me, I'd love to see him go against Mingo and I hope he does. At the end of the day though I'm sure Luffy will be the one to defeat Mingo. Pica is hilarious, I can't wait to hear his high pitch voice in the anime. Every panel that had him I was just imagining his voice in my head! He looked proper badass at the end, looking forward to seeing more of his power!
And above all, I wonder where Sabo went? :wassat:
Wait. Are you implying that Fujitora deliberatly planned for civilians to get massacred so that he can dessolve shichibukai?
Don't get me wrong, it's a machiavellan scheme that I like, and that would fit Akainu's way of doing things, but Fujitora?
Altough… man, that would be briliant. One of the main facets of machiavellan political philosophy is to appear as virtuous, even when one is not.
It would explain everything.
But I dunno if Oda went that way to begin with. I don't believe that was the case.
I totally sure it was that. Do you remember of him talking of an island that was completely destroyed by a Shichibukai and nothing was done about it? That was certainly not Crocodile in Alabasta and probably it was the 6th Shichibukai in Fujitora Motherland, and probably it was the guy that cut Z arm and that blinded Fujitora. This just shows that Fujitora wants to end the Shichibukai more than anything(even if it wasn't the guy that blinded him or if the island wasn't his motherland).
Do you really think that a guy that asks for the number of innocents, that he knows will get injured in a way or another, but then don't evacuate them is an "all good guy"? Really?
Note: He isn't Machiavellian! In a world where everything bad that the Shichibukai do is covered up, you can't be "Pure Good", you have to play dirty as well, if you want to destroy them.
Dofla reminds me of Johan Liebert….
Was this the first time we got to see Pica talk?
Everything is falling into place. The world government knew about everything, including the toy slaves and the black market. Issu knows he cant do shit about it because he's the governments dog.
Darth, Fujitora feels you, man. He can't do anything about Dofla, he feels so out of character, he is (also) so pissed at himself (and of course at WG) lol
Why he can't do anything against Doflamingo right now? Because this newest chapter suggest that it is his decision.
Fuji was right there when Doffy explained his links with the World Government to Law on Green Bit.
Simply arresting him would have no effect; defeating him would breach his position as Admiral and would result in his removal from his position, hence scuppering his grander plans in abolishing the Shichibukai.
He's realised that Law and Luffy will take down Doflamingo eventually so is most probably ensuring that he is seen doing his job, whilst waiting for them to defeat Doffy.
Besides, Doffy's plan to kill Fujitora, a Marine Admiral, would completely breach the rules of being a Shichibukai and hence allow Fuji to rightfully obliterate him, which could be what the Admiral's waiting for.
You guys are assuming too much about what Fujitora wants to do.
Why he can't do anything against Doflamingo right now? Because this newest chapter suggest that it is his decision.
Ooooh, i see where the confusion comes from.
In the redon's summary (the one i read, in spanish), Fujitora states that he's saddened with the World Government and it's attitude, and that they think they're gods, but that he can't do anything else. But Aohige's summary has a different meaning.
Now i don't know which is the correct one. I guess redon's, because Fujitora went after Luffy after all.
You guys are assuming too much about what Fujitora wants to do.
that's pretty much what we see is done in every thread.. Not just about Fuji, I mean.