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    627: ''Luffy Dies at Sea?! The Pirate Alliance Falls Apart''

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    • Crossword
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      It's the first One Piece episode of 2014, and I realize that I've missed the boat on making a Strayhat joke in these little blurbs. Oh well.

      Title: ''Luffy Dies at Sea?! The Pirate Alliance Falls Apart''
      Chapters Covered: Still filler
      New Characters: None that I know of
      Animation Director: Megumi Yamashita (***) and Sadahiko Sakamaki (new guy)
      Time: 7:30PM EST
      Watch It: www.onepieceofficial.com

      ~Stargazer~, ~Distance~ original stories.

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        New livestream channel: http://www.justin.tv/cc0721xy Also, that title….

        2chan: [http://dec.2chan.net/18/res/24524481.htm

        ](http://dec.2chan.net/18/res/24524481.htm)

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          Well Luffy punches Law so this is a 10/10 episode by default

          Not even Naruto resorted to time travel

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            Here's hoping they don't screw up this after the good first episode.

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              The stream starts at 5 right?

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                according to the Wikia (the most reliable source on the Internet) hands Up's last episode was 626, implying a new opening this episode….. I wonder what a new opening will be... and will Funi And Crunchyroll get it this time?

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                  @A:

                  according to the Wikia (the most reliable source on the Internet) hands Up's last episode was 626, implying a new opening this episode….. I wonder what a new opening will be... and will Funi And Crunchyroll get it this time?

                  Not seeing that anywhere.

                  There hasn't been any new opening announced.

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                    @A:

                    according to the Wikia (the most reliable source on the Internet) hands Up's last episode was 626, implying a new opening this episode….. I wonder what a new opening will be... and will Funi And Crunchyroll get it this time?

                    I'm pretty sure it's listed as such because 626 was the latest episode aired at the time…

                    Not even Naruto resorted to time travel

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                      @Kurloz:

                      I'm pretty sure it's listed as such because 626 was the latest episode aired at the time…

                      Yeah, that's it.

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                        I haven't seen that short a cast list in a very long time. I guess my fear that the other Straw Hats will be left out in the cold is coming true.

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                          Well Luffy punches Law so this is a 10/10 episode by default

                          I retract this statement

                          Not even Naruto resorted to time travel

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                            Aaaaand they come back for some reason.

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                              @Devil:

                              Here's hoping they don't screw up this after the good first episode.

                              Well, I enjoyed it.

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                                underwhelming episode

                                we have gone back to filler quality pretty fast

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                                  I think the weirdest thing was Law + physical strength

                                  Not even Naruto resorted to time travel

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                                    If I was Oda I would be pissed at Toei. Guys I'm working my ass off for the last decade to try and build something up and you come up with this shit !

                                    To animate an episode it costs roughly 75.000 dollars. Oda is making 19 million a year. Would be cool if he said I double the budget for every episode and now stop dicking around.

                                    Only costs him 50 X 75.000 = 3.75M He still would have 15M left each year.

                                    On-topic: This filler is derailing fast, almost as bad as Giant Luffy with Lily inside of him vs Long arm tribe guy.

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                                      Thanks Galaxy.

                                      No idea what they said, but I enjoyed it. Sure there was some reused material from PH and a few wonky scenes here and there, but whatever. It's filler and Breed is entertaining.

                                      And as I said before, silliness is actually a good thing. That way no one can mistake it for canon.

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                                        I never knew that Trafalgar Law was capable of hand to hand combat…..

                                        and Breed is a complete a-hole

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                                          I think the weirdest thing was Law + physical strength

                                          I don't see what's wrong with that.

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                                            i didnt see any law in the next episode preview. did luffy kill him? lol

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                                              I don't see what's wrong with that.

                                              Never struck me as the type that'd be able to match Luffy's strength so it was odd for me. It's funny seeing him punch things is what I'm trying to say.

                                              Not even Naruto resorted to time travel

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                                                It wasn't G2 anyway, no issues if Law can match base Luffy. Even Smoker in Tashigi's body could do that.

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                                                  As touching as that was some questions

                                                  1: wher'ed he get SMILE anyway?

                                                  2: why doesnt luffy just haki him out. it's instant and an overexertion of ones will… breed is a big mout, he prolly isnt all that strong... it would work

                                                  overall 7/10 by this point its running on (still pretty enjoyable) nonsoleum

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                                                    This episode went full "nakama"

                                                    Edit: Now that I've finished the episode its so much more that what I said above. Its so damn sad. So many feels I teared up man that Breed guy I hate his guts, to see him whip the shit out of the dugong, go on a friendship rant and then proceed to make Law and Luffy fight the dugong. Its was so damn sad! This was such an emotional episode damn it! Why they gotta make me feel so bad for the dugong. Also Luffy was really a true "mentor" to the dugong and even until the end he kept his role. I think that the weakness of the pet pet fruit is that the collar gets washed away with contact to sea water but we'll see how it goes

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                                                      looks like law plugged his ears to avoid hearing breed. most likely did a room at the very end 😄

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                                                        My guess: Law seemed to notice that they could only be controlled from hearing his voice. So he might try something to plug his ears.

                                                        Another guess, breed kept emphasizing "living things" in the first episode and how he can control all living things. Is this brook's time to shine? YOHOHOHOOH

                                                        Lastly, when they got pushed to sea, I remember franky saying, you guys take the shark, I can swim underwater. I think Franky will save Luffy and Law drowning.

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                                                          fun episode, although had some inconsistencies like Law being on par with luffy with his hands, when he's a swordsman and luffy is already a fighter. Overall the anime quality wasn't great but decent for OP standards

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                                                            It was pretty average for filler. I would like more dialogue from law though. He was too quiet for being in the scene the whole episode.

                                                            Not sure how chopper's hoof was able to cut anyone, let alone after having his power drained from the rumble ball, but w/e.

                                                            Surprised no one mentioned how cool it was to actually see luffy fight without his devil fruit. It was kind of cool to show us a fight with him somebody without stretching and yelling his attack on every move. It really reminded me of old one piece, where he literally had an all out brawl with his enemies that was throwing punches and kicks like crazy. Like when he fought lucci and croc. Now we have ceasar clown, hordy jones and fake luffy, who are all just fodder compared to luffy when it comes to strength.

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                                                              Wait, I thought the anime was gonna be off for two weeks! Whoopsie. I just now found out a new episode came out.

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                                                                Weirdest thing was to see the dugong K.O. both Luffy and Law in a single punch. Pretty weird overall, but still entertaining and easily better than the two movie filler. Animation wasn't always smooth, but this one had some good direction and momentum going. Art was also pretty vibrant throughout aside from a few shots.

                                                                No explanation on why Law never used his DF ability when forced to fight Luffy or Luffy going gear 2 or 3 despite the previous episode having Chopper go monster point under the same circumstance. I guess it was just to make a duel palpable between the two, or maybe they could resist going all-out. Oh well.

                                                                Oh yeah, and Breed's dream kingdom turned out to be pretty stupid….but crazy enough to be reasonably threatening. When making SMILE, is the zoan fruit being made random or within the control of the creator? Also, what happens when a SMILE fruit is eaten by another DF user--the same as eating a second "real" devil fruit or not?

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                                                                  @Mr.:

                                                                  Weirdest thing was to see the dugong K.O. both Luffy and Law in a single punch. Pretty weird overall, but still entertaining and easily better than the two movie filler. Animation wasn't always smooth, but this one had some good direction and momentum going. Art was also pretty vibrant throughout aside from a few shots.

                                                                  No explanation on why Law never used his DF ability when forced to fight Luffy or Luffy going gear 2 or 3 despite the previous episode having Chopper go monster point under the same circumstance. I guess it was just to make a duel palpable between the two, or maybe they could resist going all-out. Oh well.

                                                                  Oh yeah, and Breed's dream kingdom turned out to be pretty stupid….but crazy enough to be reasonably threatening. When making SMILE, is the zoan fruit being made random or within the control of the creator? Also, what happens when a SMILE fruit is eaten by another DF user--the same as eating a second "real" devil fruit or not?

                                                                  Because he told them to fight without using their devil Fruits….

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                                                                    I'm yet to properly watch this filler yet (only skipped through the first episode) but that is literally the 2nd dumbest title/blurb/whatever I have seen for this whole franchise.

                                                                    I mean not counting the fact that nobody will believe for a second that Luffy could actually, you know, die cause, obviously, but, ya know, the absolutely massive amount of volumes taking place at Dressora sold just sort of beats that point into the ground even further.

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                                                                      Why are people surprised at Law being good at hand-to-hand combat when his entire crew are fucking martial artists/kung fu mofos?
                                                                      Honestly.

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                                                                        Why are people surprised at Law being good at hand-to-hand combat when his entire crew are fucking martial artists/kung fu mofos?
                                                                        Honestly.

                                                                        That's only Bepo's shtick so far, no one else in the crew has fought yet in the manga. Although IIRC Jean Beart maybe punched a couple of people to clear a path.

                                                                        The point I was trying to make was that Law has only been shown relying on his DF so far while monstrous physical strength is Luffy's forte so it was a bit funny to see him reenact the exact same punch-clash Lucy had with Chinjao and multiply the blood spilled by 5.

                                                                        Not even Naruto resorted to time travel

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                                                                          It's actually rather refreshing to have a fight that's 100% martial arts with no superpowers to speak of. I mean, the whole situation is silly and overblown as hell (geez that ending) but dammit if I can't say that compared to its filler competition this isn't bad. Helps that the art/animation's holding up.

                                                                          Though I have to wonder if Law has like razor blades hidden in the soles of his boots or something to cut Luffy up like that.

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                                                                            Never struck me as the type that'd be able to match Luffy's strength so it was odd for me. It's funny seeing him punch things is what I'm trying to say.

                                                                            Luffy is not really that strong. For almost every truly major feat he requires to go Gear 2. Something which he didn't do in this fight. If anything I think Law should have been stronger

                                                                            Although it was kind of obvious that law figured out that you need to hear the orders and thus was just playing all along the entire time and thus not seriously fighting Luffy

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                                                                              Yeah I really don't get how Law managed to hurt Luffy. Except if he actually can close his rubber powers when he wants to or something and I think he couldn't…

                                                                              Anyway I kinda hope Toei digs Breed's backstory a little bit more. He is a nasty sonofabitch but the whole "abandoded by his crew"-story could add some dimension to him instead of being just a sadistic control freak. :ermm:

                                                                              I'm not bored yet so good job Toei! Keep it up! 😄

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                                                                                I heard an amusing theory that when Breed told them not to use their devil fruits, that Luffy, momentarily for the fight, stopped being rubber, thus the damage.

                                                                                Seems legit.

                                                                                But speaking of which, I was checking tumblr and I NEED to watch this so badly.
                                                                                S-So badly…

                                                                                But bloody hell, the doujinshi artists, fanfic writers and general peeps will be having a field trip with this fruit.
                                                                                Hgn.

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                                                                                  I'm yet to properly watch this filler yet (only skipped through the first episode) but that is literally the 2nd dumbest title/blurb/whatever I have seen for this whole franchise.

                                                                                  I mean not counting the fact that nobody will believe for a second that Luffy could actually, you know, die cause, obviously, but, ya know, the absolutely massive amount of volumes taking place at Dressora sold just sort of beats that point into the ground even further.

                                                                                  But thats the anime and not the manga. Maybe toei wants to end the anime with this arc 😄

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                                                                                  Luffy is not really that strong. For almost every truly major feat he requires to go Gear 2. Something which he didn't do in this fight. If anything I think Law should have been stronger

                                                                                  Although it was kind of obvious that law figured out that you need to hear the orders and thus was just playing all along the entire time and thus not seriously fighting Luffy

                                                                                  Well, Luffy is strong even without G2. G2 is just a speed boost. More speed means better dodge chances and more damage. After the timeskip, it also means be able to evolve some techniques with Busoushoku like Gomu Gomu no Bullet>Gomu Gomu no Red Hawk.
                                                                                  I guess what you mean is, compared to physical beasts like Vergo, Don Chinjao etc.

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                                                                                    But thats the anime and not the manga. Maybe toei wants to end the anime with this arc 😄

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                                                                                    Well, Luffy is strong even without G2. G2 is just a speed boost. More speed means better dodge chances and more damage. After the timeskip, it also means be able to evolve some techniques with Busoushoku like Gomu Gomu no Bullet>Gomu Gomu no Red Hawk.
                                                                                    I guess what you mean is, compared to physical beasts like Vergo, Don Chinjao etc.

                                                                                    I think it's both speed and strength.

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                                                                                      I think it's both speed and strength.

                                                                                      Mmm, his muscules do gain more oxygene thanks to G2, which means they are more efficient. So yeah, could be both. But i think the speed boost is the main feat…

                                                                                      A question from my side. I just read a utter stupid comment on Youtube and someone responded to it and something made me curious about the respond. How far ahead is the Anime actually? I mean, how big is their, how is it called, puffer(?)? You know, the official Episode is 627 but how much episodes are currently done? In the respond he guessed like 1-3 episodes.

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                                                                                        10/10 episode for me. The emotion was great, poor Dugong :sad:.

                                                                                        Breed is an awesome villain. He's so sadistic and smart. His backstory seems good. The fight was brutal. Next week'll be great. What's Law's plan?

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                                                                                        History repeats itself: Somewhere Roger, Garp, and Whitebeard are smiling.

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                                                                                          Luffy vs Law was weird since, like others have said, Law never struck me as a physically intimidating guy. That said, if he and Luffy were truly boiled down to just being your average 18 and 26 year old guys for this fight, then I guess there wouldn't be much of a strength disparity. This must be the case, because otherwise Luffy wouldn't have even been hurt by Law's non-haki punches.

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                                                                                            Because he told them to fight without using their devil Fruits….

                                                                                            Whoops, missed that part. It all makes sense then. Well, except why Luffy didn't use haki but I can easily let that slide.

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                                                                                              Why are you guys being so critical to a filler episode that was better than 80% of what we got in PH? (and not just cuz of the pacing).
                                                                                              Anyway, breed is a believable, with a credible dream. The fight was good, i dont want to go too deep into power scales and combat ability. And i really loved the last part, specially the one with luffy saying: cmon dude, do it as i teached you.
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                                                                                                I almost want to pick up the anime again.

                                                                                                Almost.

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                                                                                                  It was a great episode. I laughed so hard when Greed foud out that Chopper is cute. Chappy was funny aswell. On the other the hand the different scene of beating appear more violent than sad, if you look closely at Caesar he seems traumatized. I had rather a filler focused on comedy including the whole crue but the story is more enjoyable than the average filler. I just hope that Luffy won't have a flashback of Greed if he or one of his friends is controlled by Doffy.

                                                                                                  And I do not know if it is a good or bad point, but the scene in jail reminds me of Z's cave in the movie Pulp Fiction. Caesar might come back with a Katana to save Law and Luffy.

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                                                                                                    Yeah I really don't get how Law managed to hurt Luffy. Except if he actually can close his rubber powers when he wants to or something and I think he couldn't…

                                                                                                    Anyway I kinda hope Toei digs Breed's backstory a little bit more. He is a nasty sonofabitch but the whole "abandoded by his crew"-story could add some dimension to him instead of being just a sadistic control freak. :ermm:
                                                                                                    I'm not bored yet so good job Toei! Keep it up! 😄

                                                                                                    Well, Law can use haki as well; just because their arm doesn't turn black doesn't mean he is not using haki. Armament: Hardening is just concentrating haki into a specific point. Luffy has shown us many times you don't need a black arm to punch somebody.

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                                                                                                      Well, Law can use haki as well; just because their arm doesn't turn black doesn't mean he is not using haki. Armament: Hardening is just concentrating haki into a specific point. Luffy has shown us many times you don't need a black arm to punch somebody.

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                                                                                                      Oh yeah! Stupid me!

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                                                                                                        …Am I the only one who is liking this filler arc?

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