so do these things usually have any original colour spreads or is it always just a collection of the ones from the manga
The cover of a Color Walk is always an original one, though it might be tough to find a clean version of both front and backβ¦
so do these things usually have any original colour spreads or is it always just a collection of the ones from the manga
The cover of a Color Walk is always an original one, though it might be tough to find a clean version of both front and backβ¦
so do these things usually have any original colour spreads or is it always just a collection of the ones from the manga
Usually there's no new complete art-pieces apart from the cover, it mostly consist of spreads that are published in Jump, magazine & volume covers and other promotional illustrations Oda did for whatever purposes. There's occasionally a couple of pages with character sketches and small special b/w inked illustration to go along with mangaka interview. Last time they also included a coloured version of a chapter cover that was voted by fans.
what's a colour walk lol
what's a colour walk lol
It's a collection of art from Oda, consisting of color spreads and volume covers, without the text from the magazine and book releases.
One Piece Color Walk 6 "Gorilla" on sale now in Japan ^^
Thank you redon
I think we're going to have more pages tomorrow
OdaΒ΄s message in Color Wakl 6 "Gorilla".
So excited for this! I am loving the cover.
We posted some highlights about the book on our website. We'll also be going through the Color Walk on the podcast this Monday:
http://onepiecepodcast.com/2014/01/04/one-piece-color-walk-gorilla-highlights/
That part about Fukaboshi is interesting⦠anyone thought Fukaboshi sucks, or is somewhat different in terms of desing?
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Hm.. Fukaboshi is 1 of the best character designs so far after timeskip for me.. You know, pretty unique.. I like it.
@Zach:
We posted some highlights about the book on our website. We'll also be going through the Color Walk on the podcast this Monday:
http://onepiecepodcast.com/2014/01/04/one-piece-color-walk-gorilla-highlights/
Awesome!! :ninja:
Please tell us more about Oda's message, too.
Interesting. I definitely didn't think of Fukaboshi as a "cool character" but I didn't mind/dislike his design either.
I remember lots of complaints about his design back when he first appeared.
Too traditional "japanese" I assume, but well I liked it anyway.
Zoro seems to have trouble with birds huh? XD
I think oda's done that to throw us off the scent a little bit.. He does like to be mysterious
Fukaboshi is based on this Jusaburo TsujimuraΒ΄s doll, thanks Mr.One Piece β(@masashiy84) for the picture.
@Dahaka.:
That part about Fukaboshi is interesting⦠anyone thought Fukaboshi sucks, or is somewhat different in terms of desing?
Yeah a I though he sucked too shit name, shit design overall I though he was a pretty useless character if I'm been honest.
I thought he was pretty cool, and that includes his design. Also, Oda at least gave him the honour of doing "stuff" during the climax; he ordered those soldiers to shoot a bubble at the Noah so Luffy could fight on it, and tried to take down Hody with a freaking Kame Hame Ha, and when that failed, went for some boxing. And, in the end, he was the one who figured out Hody's character and motivations, and he was the one that asked Luffy to bring everything "back to zero" after admitting that the royal family were also to blame for ignoring all that was going on in the Fishman District and blindly believing that they had moved on.
In fact, looking back at it all. . .Fukaboshi was probably one of the best characters from that arc.
(And everytime I re-read some of Fishman Island's chapters, I find the fights and conflict less and less exciting, but the writing and the themes just get better and better. I'm totally torn on that arc right now. . .).
Edit: I mean, just re-read chapter 644. That's gotta be some of the best writing Oda's done in a long time. A character fully accepting his weaknesses, crying over them, making a powerful statement and finally asking a foreigner to bring everything back to 0 so they can start all over again. Both literally and symbolically. Man, that was some real good stuff. For how weak that arc was, Oda hasn't gone this deep again after that. And Fukaboshi was a pivotal part of that conflict, he was the "voice" of it all, the catharsis of that arc is in great part his own.
Didn't like him much, but i'm cool with it..
Are there any online store that has it in stock? I see "preorder closed" or "out of stock" wherever i look.
Are there any online store that has it in stock? I see "preorder closed" or "out of stock" wherever i look.
CD Japan.
Lee's post is a really good post. Fukaboshi is definitely the best new character we've gotten in a long, long time. I approve. But let me tackle a few points regardless, because I feel like those things never get discussed enough, and even when they do they reach a half-assed conclusion that makes things look better than they actually were. Sorry for the Off-Topic nature of this.
! @kouch_lee:
! > (And everytime I re-read some of Fishman Island's chapters, I find the fights and conflict less and less exciting, but the writing and the themes just get better and better. I'm totally torn on that arc right now. . .)
! Now, here's the thing. The themes in and of themselves were pretty much the deepest Oda has ever even attempted to deal with, and he deserves a lot of praise for the message he sent with that arc. But as good as the racism and pointless oppression and antagonizing breeds people empty with hatred plot was, I think it's execution was pretty poor. Mostly due to pacing issues, as in not making the threat seem scarier by getting the Strawhats on the island just a little earlier or not allowing the New Fishman Pirates to vocalize their hatred for the system that breeds weakness more before the attack. But that's another conversation entirely.
! I think there are other good examples of why it didn't work as well as it could have, though. For one, I hope you are including the Jinbe thing amongst the less exciting conflicts when his whole Luffy please don't fight Hody thing was pretty much a killer for that arc and its theme. It made all the sense in the world up until the point when Hody started going wild, threatening to execute the royal family that everyone loved and flagrantly torturing, shaming, even killing people right before everyone's eyes. Luffy, a human, attacking Hody before that would have caused an outrage just like Jinbe feared, but after that point what he said made no sense whatsoever.
! The people on Fishman Island would have welcomed the Strawhats as heroes if they had taken Hody down after he did what he did. They might have even pulled off the same trick they did with Nami's mirage to save Neptune right before he dies to make sure the people would treat them like that, and that wouldn't have let Jinbe and Shirahoshi get caught. In an arc that was all about reconciliation and the difference in race not mattering as long as people are good to one another, it would have been perfect. But, sadly, Oda had to make Jinbe come up with a ridiculous plan to make him seem like a level-headed mastermind, which, in the end, only resulted in the whole affair feeling awfully forced and unrealistic. Not to mention that it actually made Jinbe look stupider than he really is, so the whole thing backfired pretty badly.
! The other big thing that I have had and will always have a huge problem with is the way Hody said the humans had done "nothing" to him. That's not how people who think like that work. That came straight from Oda himself because he had to made absolutely sure that his younger readership would understand what the intended message was. A much more natural reaction from him would have been a declaration of how humans are worthless scum who make the lives of all fishmen so hard and bad that they deserve to be destroyed in order to make the fishman race free. That was his justification, that's what drove him. That's the line of thinking that drives all terrorists. They get so consumed by their own model of thinking that they never think outside of the box even when posed questions like that.
! Fukaboshi could have made him answer the question the way that he actually did by repeating what he said previously and adding that he specifically meant what the humans had ever done to Hody personally. At which point he could have believably replied "Nothing" and then launched into a fit of anger at someone of his own race who dares question his line of thinking. I don't know how Oda missed that, honestly, but he really did. And it really bugs me.
@Toraish:
Lee's post is a really good post. Fukaboshi is definitely the best new character we've gotten in a long, long time. I approve. But let me tackle a few points regardless, because I feel like those things never get discussed enough, and even when they do they reach a half-assed conclusion that makes things look better than they actually were. Sorry for the Off-Topic nature of this.
! Now, here's the thing. The themes in and of themselves were pretty much the deepest Oda has ever even attempted to deal with, and he deserves a lot of praise for the message he sent with that arc. But as good as the racism and pointless oppression and antagonizing breeds people empty with hatred plot was, I think it's execution was pretty poor. Mostly due to pacing issues, as in not making the threat seem scarier by getting the Strawhats on the island just a little earlier or not allowing the New Fishman Pirates to vocalize their hatred for the system that breeds weakness more before the attack. But that's another conversation entirely.
! I think there are other good examples of why it didn't work as well as it could have, though. For one, I hope you are including the Jinbe thing amongst the less exciting conflicts when his whole Luffy please don't fight Hody thing was pretty much a killer for that arc and its theme. It made all the sense in the world up until the point when Hody started going wild, threatening to execute the royal family that everyone loved and flagrantly torturing, shaming, even killing people right before everyone's eyes. Luffy, a human, attacking Hody before that would have caused an outrage just like Jinbe feared, but after that point what he said made no sense whatsoever.
! The people on Fishman Island would have welcomed the Strawhats as heroes if they had taken Hody down after he did what he did. They might have even pulled off the same trick they did with Nami's mirage to save Neptune right before he dies to make sure the people would treat them like that, and that wouldn't have let Jinbe and Shirahoshi get caught. In an arc that was all about reconciliation and the difference in race not mattering as long as people are good to one another, it would have been perfect. But, sadly, Oda had to make Jinbe come up with a ridiculous plan to make him seem like a level-headed mastermind, which, in the end, only resulted in the whole affair feeling awfully forced and unrealistic. Not to mention that it actually made Jinbe look stupider than he really is, so the whole thing backfired pretty badly.
! The other big thing that I have had and will always have a huge problem with is the way Hody said the humans had done "nothing" to him. That's not how people who think like that work. That came straight from Oda himself because he had to made absolutely sure that his younger readership would understand what the intended message was. A much more natural reaction from him would have been a declaration of how humans are worthless scum who make the lives of all fishmen so hard and bad that they deserve to be destroyed in order to make the fishman race free. That was his justification, that's what drove him. That's the line of thinking that drives all terrorists. They get so consumed by their own model of thinking that they never think outside of the box even when posed questions like that.
! Fukaboshi could have made him answer the question the way that he actually did by repeating what he said previously and adding that he specifically meant what the humans had ever done to Hody personally. At which point he could have believably replied "Nothing" and then launched into a fit of anger at someone of his own race who dares question his line of thinking. I don't know how Oda missed that, honestly, but he really did. And it really bugs me.
Nice of you to answer my post. I felt I went totally off-topic mode and got carried away, cool to see someone at least took its time to read it and comment on it.
! About your complaints of the writing, the two biggest issues I see that you have are the pretty ass-backwards scene of Jinbe stopping Luffy that, in the end, amounted to. . .not much; and the "nothing" scene. Well, for the first one I got nothing indeed, it was pretty poor. I excuse Jinbe because his exchange with Nami was satisfying and that scene alone cemented the emotional background for the entire arc: Nami is not resentful of the fishman race for what happened to her in the past, forgives Jinbe and totally moves forward. Jinbe's tears make the scene just that little extra touchy. That's also the best Nami moment we've had in like three years, so any time you feel desperate about the SH's being less fleshed out and more reduced to one note gags, you can always go back to that moment and get a little more hope in mankind. But, yeah, the Jinbe-Luffy exchanged was really forced and the events that unfolded later with his so called "plan" were contrived and a bit absurd, to say the least. Let's face it, the arc was hella forced in many points, and Oda would've beneffited greatly of some extra 5-6 chapters to flesh things out and improve the flow.
! Now, the "nothing" moment, imho, was good enough. I know a real neo-nazi feels he has been wronged and, if asked "why do you hate other races? what have they done to you?" he'd tell you a myriad of bullshit stuff to convince you that he's in the right, but the thing is, up to that point, Hody had been spouting just exactly what you asked for, for like 20 chapters straight, and when Fukaboshi finally confronted him and asked what EXACTLY was done to him in particular, after all those long speeches about being god-send, the superior race, bla bla bla just a "nothing" came. Oda just cut the "realist" approach of that particular moment to make a bigger impact, but the speech and the stupid reasoning Hody and his croonies stand for is all over the place TILL that moment, so maybe Oda felt the point was sufficiently made by then and he could go straight for the "nothing", which triggered the cathartic Fukaboshi moment that I've come to appreciate much more with extra readings than the first time around.
! Now, I know the writing itself is a bit wonky and rough around the edges thoughout the arc, but I feel like when the final "emotional explosion" comes, it is really well done, and since we were talking about Fukaboshi, the one that made that catharsis and finally understood Otohime's ideals and completed the "cicle" was him, so that alone makes Fuka one of the best characters of the arc.
That won't make FI any better for anyone, and for years to come it'll still probably be the weakest link in the series, but for all the massive amounts of shit it gets, I feel like it has some surpisingly good moments in there mixed with some unusually mediocre developements for Oda's standards. Thus, a mixing bag.
Hody's "nothing line", I thought was very good, because it actually made him an irredeemable villain and contrasted him with Arlong. He was literally "nothing" but the ideology made manifest. Humans had never PERSONALLY done anything to him (though considering the nature of systemic oppression IRL, you could say that this was unlikely or unrealistic).
That won't make FI any better for anyone, and for years to come it'll still probably be the weakest link in the series, but for all the massive amounts of shit it gets, I feel like it has some surpisingly good moments in there mixed with some unusually mediocre developements for Oda's standards. Thus, a mixing bag.
Hody's "nothing line", I thought was very good, because it actually made him a an irredeemable villain and contrasted him with Arlong. He was literally "nothing" but the ideology made manifest. Humans had never PERSONALLY done anything to him (though considering the nature of systemic oppression IRL, you could say that this was unlikely or unrealistic).
! Well, the thing with the nothing line and Hody being the embodiment of empty counter-racist hatred is that it was already very obvious to the reader through the Strawhats. Hody obviously didn't know much about humans and the cultural situation in the above world upheld by the Tenryuubito and the World Government, and neither really did Fukaboshi, but the readers did know or at least should have known because it's been the longest and most prominent underlying theme in the series from the beginning.
! We are painfully aware that in the OP world there are a lot of rotten people in power, perpetrating unfair treatment of everything they deem lower than themselves. And we know that Fishmen were hit extremely hard by that. We've known about it ever since Arlong showed up. And Tom, the Auction House, Jinbe, Whitebeard, and the whole Fishman Island arc prior to the "nothing" scene only made it clearer to us. But we're also aware that the racist claims are not true and that only unknowledgeable people controlled by the WG's Status Quo believe in them. Luffy and all the Strawhats constantly show that. Even Fukaboshi knew that, or at least believed in that, because of his mother and because he met Luffy.And since it was being constantly hinted at that Hody himself had never been harmed by the humans through the whole theme of the arc, and later even confirmed by Hody's flashback and his confession of having killed Otohime, we also knew for sure that he had no personal reason for what he was doing.
! So put that all together and you get a situation where Hody had no real reason to say what he said outside of Oda simply wanting to emphasize the point he was making. Fukaboshi's question was a last-ditch effort to try to get through to him and to ascertain what he already thought was probably the case; that Hody hadn't ever been wronged himself. But Hody's answer, and the bad cliffhanger that was used to make it look cooler, was quite literally out of this world. What is termed "Righteous Indignation" by modern day anthropologists simply doesn't work that way. And since it doesn't, I think that's a really piss-poor way of showing why racism-fueled hatred and terrorism is bad.
! It's a big "Fuck you" to the entire theme because Hody saying "Nothing" basically signifies that he doesn't know himself whether humans are bad or not, he's just being a massive psychopathic dick because he was so excited about Arlong's "Jihadist" speeches that he wants to think they are. He's being stupid as opposed to doing what he believes is right. But instead, if he started ranting and raving about how humans are a scourge to this earth and to all Fishmen and whatnot with zeal and inner turmoil in his voice, he'd be acting like actual terrorists do. Their whole modus operandi is based on continuously psyching themselves up to believe in their ideals to the point where it takes all precedence over everything else and totally consumes them, while at the same time searching for ever crazier and crazier conclusions to fill the gaps of their logic with. And as a result, when they're faced with hard facts that prove their whole worldview is wrong, their minds go into full lock down and desperation mode and they start doing crazy things on the spot because their inner conflict is practically driving them insane. Terrorists are extremely weak and frail, despite their hardy appearances.
! And Oda completely managed to leave all that out for whatever reason. Probably because he wanted to make sure the kids his comic is primarily aimed at would get what his intentional message is. But I treat that as very bad writing because showing all that instead of trashing the realism in favour of making a point would have been way more effective. Human brain is able to pick up on those things, even if it can't find words to describe it. And by doing that, Oda kind of accidentally poops on his audience, and counter-intuitively makes the point he was trying to make a lot weaker.
! With only a few more chapters and a bit less of Hody's repetitious racist swagger, replaced by more idealist freedom fighter/conqueror style nonsense, the final confrontation could have been made that much better. But that sadly didn't happen, and I don't think I'll ever be able to accept it as a result. That if something is poor writing.
Wow, that was longer than I thought it would be. Oh well, at least I got to talk about something that's been on my mind for a while.
@Toraish:
! Well, the thing with the nothing line and Hody being the embodiment of empty counter-racist hatred is that it was already very obvious to the reader through the Strawhats. Hody obviously didn't know much about humans and the cultural situation in the above world upheld by the Tenryuubito and the World Government, and neither really did Fukaboshi, but the readers did know or at least should have known because it's been the longest and most prominent underlying theme in the series from the beginning.
! We are painfully aware that in the OP world there are a lot of rotten people in power, perpetrating unfair treatment of everything they deem lower than themselves. And we know that Fishmen were hit extremely hard by that. We've known about it ever since Arlong showed up. And Tom, the Auction House, Jinbe, Whitebeard, and the whole Fishman Island arc prior to the "nothing" scene only made it clearer to us. But we're also aware that the racist claims are not true and that only unknowledgeable people controlled by the WG's Status Quo believe in them. Luffy and all the Strawhats constantly show that. Even Fukaboshi knew that, or at least believed in that, because of his mother and because he met Luffy.And since it was being constantly hinted at that Hody himself had never been harmed by the humans through the whole theme of the arc, and later even confirmed by Hody's flashback and his confession of having killed Otohime, we also knew for sure that he had no personal reason for what he was doing.
! So put that all together and you get a situation where Hody had no real reason to say what he said outside of Oda simply wanting to emphasize the point he was making. Fukaboshi's question was a last-ditch effort to try to get through to him and to ascertain what he already thought was probably the case; that Hody hadn't ever been wronged himself. But Hody's answer, and the bad cliffhanger that was used to make it look cooler, was quite literally out of this world. What is termed "Righteous Indignation" by modern day anthropologists simply doesn't work that way. And since it doesn't, I think that's a really piss-poor way of showing why racism-fueled hatred and terrorism is bad.
! It's a big "Fuck you" to the entire theme because Hody saying "Nothing" basically signifies that he doesn't know himself whether humans are bad or not, he's just being a massive psychopathic dick because he was so excited about Arlong's "Jihadist" speeches that he wants to think they are. He's being stupid as opposed to doing what he believes is right. But instead, if he started ranting and raving about how humans are a scourge to this earth and to all Fishmen and whatnot with zeal and inner turmoil in his voice, he'd be acting like actual terrorists do. Their whole modus operandi is based on continuously psyching themselves up to believe in their ideals to the point where it takes all precedence over everything else and totally consumes them, while at the same time searching for ever crazier and crazier conclusions to fill the gaps of their logic with. And as a result, when they're faced with hard facts that prove their whole worldview is wrong, their minds go into full lock down and desperation mode and they start doing crazy things on the spot because their inner conflict is practically driving them insane. Terrorists are extremely weak and frail, despite their hardy appearances.
! And Oda completely managed to leave all that out for whatever reason. Probably because he wanted to make sure the kids his comic is primarily aimed at would get what his intentional message is. But I treat that as very bad writing because showing all that instead of trashing the realism in favour of making a point would have been way more effective. Human brain is able to pick up on those things, even if it can't find words to describe it. And by doing that, Oda kind of accidentally poops on his audience, and counter-intuitively makes the point he was trying to make a lot weaker.
! With only a few more chapters and a bit less of Hody's repetitious racist swagger, replaced by more idealist freedom fighter/conqueror style nonsense, the final confrontation could have been made that much better. But that sadly didn't happen, and I don't think I'll ever be able to accept it as a result. That if something is poor writing.Wow, that was longer than I thought it would be. Oh well, at least I got to talk about something that's been on my mind for a while.
Well, now I see what you're saying, and I agree with you. That would have been much more realistic.
Well, now I see what you're saying, and I agree with you. That would have been much more realistic.
Yeah, like the deal with it is that it works well enough to be acceptable and not Bleach levels of cognitive dissonance, but the more time you spend thinking about it the crappier it seems because Oda, likely inadvertently, took the easy way out with writing the scene that way and more or less insulted the intelligence of himself and of all of his readers by doing so.
And that's exactly why I hate the rushed pacing. It creates situations like these way more often than is healthy for a story.
@Toraish:
And that's exactly why I hate the rushed pacing. It creates situations like these way more often than is healthy for a story.
Well yeah, the rushed pacing and the lack of character interaction or development, bothers me more.
Would it have been better if someone else told Fukaboshi the truth about Hody? Perhaps a character who had been close enough to Hody during his whole life to truly determine whether or not his hatred toward humans was justified?
It is pretty unrealistic that any of the New Fishman Pirates, let alone Hody himself, would just admit that humans did nothing to them personally. People with their type of mindset would place unreal amounts of blame on humans for just about anything and everything.
The reveal really should have come from someone else's mouth rather than Hody's.
Your updates are always welcomed redon. keep it up
I really like that color spread featuring all the cover story characters. Thanks redon.
Thanks redon. I love it.
I want it, but I don't have any $ right now.
Got it!!
http://i.imgur.com/CJXvNPu.jpg
Here some pictures, I will post Super-HQ cover tonight ^^
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Awesome awesome awesome!
Cool
16 characters
redon, out of curisioty, are you making HQ scans of Jojonium covers as well?
Yes, it's always a good gesture to thank your "stuff". XD
thanks, redon!
β¦and I'm curious as well...do you do anything like that with yours Jojo material?
hello
I make a review and a video on my website : artbook-passion β- [ARTBOOK-PASSION] One Piece color Walk 6 Gorilla β-
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Thanks, Ukimix and Redon, much appreciated!
Anyone planing on scanning the whole thing?
I'd love to have the Colorspread of the Coverstories (the Cover from One Piece Green), it's really amazing!
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Hans
The poster is like.. the opponents and luffy a few color walks ago?
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The plot hint of the footsteeps is great! there's a kuma like effect there.
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There's an island that I don't recognize, bellow Boing Archipelago.
In order they are: Duval's base, Weatheria, Vegapunk's home island, Kamabaka Kingdom, Mihawk Island, Torino Kingdom, Tequila Wolf giant bridge, boing archipelago, long arm tribe hunger island, and the mysterious mountain island.
In the main square there's the goverment's faccilities, Impel Down, Eines Loby and Marineford, plus shabody, Amazon Lily and that island where luffy ended training.
long arm tribe hunger island, and the mysterious mountain island.
the hunger island and the long arm tribe island are two different islands!
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Namakura_Island
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Kenzan_Island
the hunger island and the long arm tribe island are two different islands!
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Namakura_Island
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Kenzan_Island
Ah, ok thanks.
Does anyone know, where are the image that all the Straw Hats are chiby (bottom on the right), and the colored circles (bottom on the left) from, on this page?
I mean, what book or publication where they first shown.
Thanks for the replies
Does anyone know, where are the image that all the Straw Hats are chiby (bottom on the right), and the colored circles (bottom on the left) from, on this page?
The colored circles are from button clip goodies for STRONG WORLD campaign back in 2009, http://www.amazon.com/One-Piece-arrival-advance-benefits/dp/B0032JKLI2
dunno about chibified sketch, It may be another limited goodies too, perhaps a postcard, or something that came along with volume 0.