Here is a majority of Kubihige's quotes throughout this session that contained substantial info:
! > OnSpacecowboy: It seems like he was getting grilled for trying todiscuss role PMs, which he wasn't. What he was asking about was muchmore useless. Either way, he's since backed off. What concerns meabout him is his insistence that Day 1 need not be taken seriously.It's pretty clear that most, if not all, of the players are in favorof a lynch on day 1. I don't think that's something that should betaken lightly. While I don't see how his actions could benefit townat all, I'd hesitate to call them scummy. I'm interested to see if heshapes up on Day 2.
OnTyrano: I would think mafia would be a little more careful withjumping on a bandwagon so freely… Tyrano hasn't yet tried to defendhimself. I'll wait for that.
OnSomebodyUDon'tKnow: Argued for what would amount to sacrificing apower role… in order to speculate on why they were killed? Now thathe's really starting to feel heat for it, he changes the storyentirely.
Ofthe three I feel SomebodyUDon'tKnow is the best suspect thus far, soI'll throw my vote on him and see where it takes us.
! > I'mgoing to join the Spacecowboy-makes-no-sense camp.
! > Andtrappe asked a bit ago about scumbuddies. All of the more-activeplayers are suspicious of, or have already voted for SUDK. If hiscomrades are voting for him, Nectar's post earlier raised a flag forme. Spacecowboy's just confusing me in multiple ways, and if I thinkI can understand what he's trying to say, it could be interpreted asa passive defense of a partner. Others haven't given enough to reallybe suspicious.
! > I'dlike to hear some other opinions before the hammer is dropped.There's still plenty of time in the day.
! > Okay,I'll try to add something substantial. Sorry, everyone.
! > Firstof all
@trappe:Regular cheesecake is the best cheesecake, but if it has glazedstrawberries on top, that's always a plus. As much as I'd love tolynch you, I'm finding it hard to find anything suspicious about you.This wasn't how it was supposed to go
DoI think the votes are being scattered on purpose? No, do you? There'salready a pretty decent wagon in Tyrano, I would think more thanmafia would latch onto that and I believe there are no more than 4 ofthem, which leaves a few of those as legitimate.
Tyrano,he's being more responsive today, but I'm not buying his excuses. Hewas my #2 suspect yesterday as well. He's getting well-deservedpressure. I'm still trying to make sense of whatever it isSpacecowboy is trying to say about him.
Speakingof Spacecowboy, I don't see his behavior as beneficial to anything.He keeps dropping hints about some knowledge, but won't say what. Ifhe knows anything useful at all, it apparently involves Tyrano andone other person? Perhaps lynching Tyrano will give him valuable infothat he'd be willing to share… or maybe that's just what hewants.
@HuschelI see 3rd party specualtion as completely pointless right now. Yes,the wording of texts heavily implies it, but that's all we have to gooff on and I can't see anything becoming any more definite just bytalking about it at this point. Maybe this is just my ignorancetalking, I'll admit I don't know a whole lot about mafia, but I can'tsee anything positive coming of it.
I'mrunning out of time, so I'll address two more people and try to touchon a few more things and ask some questions when I get back from worktonight.
@Harvady:You really like to nitpick little things, mostly on suspicions thatother people have. Do you have any real suspects of yourown?
Foolio,your seeming unfamiliarity with the death text raised initialsuspicions. Admittedly, I didn't catch it until Iceburg pointed itout. Upon rereading, you addressed it with this same unfamiliarityagain in post #1109. If you were town, you would think that it wouldrequire at bit of a conscious effort to address it as such and I'mnot getting that from your response in which you caught what you weredoing. Though this isn't why I voted for you. Your grilling ofHuschel could seem like you were fishing for a slip, to broaden therange of suspects. Typing that out, it doesn't seem like a bad thing,but the vibe I got from it was more like "hmm… that's notgonna work, better try something else..." if that makes sense?Still, not really the reason I voted for you.
Ifound it interesting the way you squirmed about when there waspressure on you. Even after you gave your defense, you continued totry defending yourself in other posts, even though there was nothingnew said about you. Maybe you're just a little redundant, but Imostly want to see how you react again, after the pressure on youfaded.
! > @Foolio/Trappe:There were two on Tyrano yesterday and there are two on him today, aswell as a number of people saying he was a secondary suspect. Thewagon is still there, I just feel like it's on the back burner so asto fully utilize the day. He's also been more active and responsive,maybe that's been enough for some people. If it's still not showingas the day winds down, I'll take another look at it.
! > Right.I had actually typed out an answer, but upon getting logged out andtrying to copy it, I managed to erase the whole thing, so I just leftsomething quick before knocking out >_>
! > And
I told you so I only think I was partially correct becausewhile Tyrano is a very likely lynch right now, there are still a lotof wagons and his is barely half complete with 8(?) hours left. Ifthere were a high number of mafia they would have tried to lynchTyrano quicker, especially if the night kill really was blocked.Maybe if there were two smaller mafias of 3 (is that even athing?)… but a mafia of 6 just seems rather ridiculous from anumbers perspective. Yeah, I can't completely rule out anything, butI just feel like 4 is a safer bet.
trappe,you said you had wanted to bring up the stalling of the Tyrano wagonbefore I was asked, but I don't think you've shared your thoughtsyet. If I missed it, sorry.
! > Top2 suspects: Nectar and Foolio
! > Ashe's said himself, Tyrano is really the only wagon that seems likeit'll end up going somewhere today. While he's not my #1 suspect, weARE just pulling each other in every direction. A lynch will give ussome concrete info, so
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Tyranovoted for "SUDK" yesterday, was that just an oversight, orare acronyms/spelling errors okay, so long as the intent is clear? Idon't want to be lynched as "Kubohige" T_T, but I'd alsolike to know if someone could fake a vote by simplymisspelling.
! > Thisis all pretty ridiculous. Reminds me of zombies. I don't likezombies.
! > Nectar,even if Harvady or one of your other alters, or however this issupposed to work, do turn up as scum, how do we know to trust you?There are more than one threat to town. How do we know you're notjust playing us?
! > Youknow that others have been altered… but you don't know who?
! > I'ma very easily-ignored person…
I'malways in favor of a lynch, no matter what. I'll entertain the ideaof there being no mafia, but whether that's true or not, there arestill threats among us, so I don't see how it would really changeanything. I do still believe there is a mafia though.
Foolio,I don't see you as any more clear today than yesterday. You had a bitto say about there being no mafia. One could argue that's an idea themafia would love people to believe.
I'minterested in where the Harvady/Nectar thing goes. I have not beenaltered.
! > Wehave a huge lack of information about anything. Nectar called outHarvady and was right. While I definitely don't trust him, heobviously knows something. If he's town or even third party, he'sclearly at risk of being killed tonight, and I think we'd all like tofigure out what he knows as soon as possible so we have the bestchance to make sense of what he gives us. Your holding out is onlykeeping us in the dark. Yes, it would have been nice to know if hehad some fool-proof master plan, but I think we're well beyond thatpoint now.
! > Personally,I think Nectar is third party. I don't see how any townie by himselfcould draw these conclusions with any kind of legitimacy and I don'tthink any mafia would draw so much attention to himself unless he wasgoing to out his partner for credibility. And that's prettyridiculous because it still doesn't make him look good. On top ofthat, handing out abilities doesn't sound like a town or mafiapower.
I'llwithhold my vote for now, as L-2 is much closer than I'd like to bewithout him responding yet, but if this doesn't work itself out inabout ~12 hours when I get back from work, that's where I'll beplacing my vote.
@Benjammin,back when I voted Foolio because I thought he acted strange underpressure… you're kind of doing the same thing x10. Maybe you justlike your walls of text talking about anything and everything, butthe tone of your posts isn't making you look good.
! > Vote:Nectar
Winningwith town? Sounds like a bunch of crap. Third party is definitely athreat. Unless there's another third party threat (lawl), but wuth 3of them and 3 or 4 mafia (or 9 if you're Foolio) that already leavesonly a handful of players as town.
I'mstill wary of Ben, but when most of the people voting for him arebasing it on a 'maybe i think possibly this is what could havepotentially taken place' I'm more interested in seeing the flip ofthose that have been trying to manipulate us.
! > @trappe:Of course they'regoing to want to pin a mafia. They'd have nocredibility if they didn't. They probably do have some way of tellingthe difference. I'm not nearly as doubtful of those claims as oftheir whole scheme in general. Target someone they haven't yetaltered would have been going in blind for them, with minimalbenefit.
! > Idon't see why revealing what night it was would be a big deal. Iceand Ben were night 1, Harvady was doubled night 2. If 3 is the magicnumber, that leaves a spot for you and Space on each day. I'm goingto guess you were night 2.
! > Hownice of you to switch your vote to another all-but-non-existant wagonright near day's end again…
! > Vote:Nectar
Wasn'tbuying your nonsense yesterday, not buying it today, especially afterIceberg's flip.
! > 1)How your win condition really works. Clearly, you are the ones makingthe cyborgs, but until yesterday, you didn't even know what you werereally doing. Maybe you thought to come out to gain information aboutyourselves? You yourself only did so when Nectar was on the verge ofbeing lynched, I'm sure that wasn't part of the plan.
! > 2)Maybe not an alternative, but at least one that can't co-exist with atown win. Maybe your granting of powers makes it harder for you towin. They could be used against you.
4)The topic of you cyborgs is getting people talking. That's good forscum hunting. We can see who's being overly opportunistic and allthat we normally do when scum hunting. I just see lynching one of youas a priority. Even if Nectar gets lynched and you are perpetuallyblocked, your third member will have more than enough time to finishconverting.
3of the people converted are looking to lynch you. The only one thatwas close to your side is dead. Maybe we are playing into mafia'shands, but if a conversion isn't enough for even those that have beenconverted, how is it supposed to be enough for those of usnot?
Andyet both of your robot buddies voted for Mrs. Iceburg. Are they justnot as brilliant as you, Nectar? Ben admitted to lying, thuscleariing up the possibility of Iceberg's robot being blocked thatnight, and he was still lynched, thanks to not just town, but robot,and probably mafia too.
#5,is "roboticize" the exact wording? Not "alter" orsomething else?
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Scenario:"All threats eliminated" is the win condition for town,right? Robots can only not turn mafia into cyborgs. The wordingheavily implies there is another threat out there, even if it isn'tyou, you can convert this other threat. So, mafia dead, town allconverted, other threat CONVERTED AND NOT ELIMINATED. This isassuming that threat isn't you, of course.
Myreplies to the second half of the day will come soon. Nice to see I'mnot being ignored conpletely~
A lot of Kubi's actions make sense in context now, but it's pretty standard. However, looking at her treatment of Spacecowboy during the first day, it really looks like Kubi was trying to cover for him while trying to look as inconspicuous about it as possible. Thoughts?