Pretty simple concept. If they were running for President, Prime Minister, Taoiseach, whatever.
Which strawhat would you vote for? Who would make the best leader?
Who might make the worst?
Who might be good for certain times? But not others?
I know some of you like making campaign memes for the popularity polls, seems like this would be fun for that too.
Vote away!
Split between Robin and Usopp. xD Robin is such a rational, intelligent woman while Usopp is definitely politician material :P
I would have to say Nami, but I don't think any of them will do that. Even if they win the war against the WG I think that Dragon may be the one to take charge, though I don't really like that idea. I'd prefer it be Luffy but Nami would get my vote.
^ Did she hit her head or something, anyways this is a tricky question because we have to think about the characters in general and the only on fitting for this sort of position is Robin, intelligent, dedicated and unfaceable, while Nami will be another money hunger and Usopp will probably melt down when somebody talks loud to him
let's see
luffy is stupid
zoro is absent-minded
usopp is a liar
nami only cares about money
sanji would probably care only for women
chopper is too young
franky is too hentai
so the only two that remains are brook and robin..brook is crazy but it's a real man,robin is a bit too dark,but she would probably be more serious about the job
my choice is robin
Definitely Robin for this one. She has all the right ingredients. 
Franky, because his scandals would be the most entertaining.
Luffy has kings haki because he has the quality of a king. Robin may be fit for it but I highly doubt it's going to happen. I'm quite sure the entire crew can handle it while Luffy is the king. Robin isn't the leader type anyways.
Sounds like politicians to me. :ninja:
Luffy has kings haki because he has the quality of a king. Robin may be fit for it but I highly doubt it's going to happen. I'm quite sure the entire crew can handle it while Luffy is the king. Robin isn't the leader type anyways.
What the hell are you talking about.
This is a hypothetical election in your real life country with the Strawhat crew running for your political leader.
Congrats on being the only one to not grasp this.
@Monkey:
What the hell are you talking about.This is a hypothetical election in your real life country with the Strawhat crew running for your political leader.Congrats on being the only one to not grasp this.
So basically you made a post that isn't about the Manga.You should have put this post in a different section if you aren't talking about the One Piece nation. Anyone with enough sense would originally think that it's about the Manga being in the section that this is in. This thread will most likely be closed, right?But if I had to vote on it being in the real world I would still choose Nami. Robin always sits on her butt reading books and focusing on her goal which is to learn history, I doubt she would even approve of being listed in these votes.
@Monkey:
What the hell are you talking about.
This is a hypothetical election in your real life country with the Strawhat crew running for your political leader.Congrats on being the only one to not grasp this.
Why do you have to ruined the fun, couldn't you just wait till Monday
Having Nami as the minister of finance is a good choice or is to risky considering Nami "affection" with money?
Let's see…
Luffy: Too much of an idiot. Seems to have a knack for surrounding himself with the right people for the job, but he has a tendency to not listen to them. He should be a chief of staff, though.
Zoro: Not interested enough to make a good leader. He'd completely neglect it, and just cut members of the opposition party when they got in his way.
Nami: Would probably make an excellent politician, but would rob everyone blind in the process.
Usopp: Probably a decent decision-maker, but prone to lying.
Sanji: Certainly smart enough to run shit, if he could be convinced to do the job, but he'd just kick the shit out of the opposition party when they got in his way.
Chopper: Too easily manipulated. Smart enough to do the job, but simply not cut out for politics.
Robin: Perfect for the job. Intelligent, values preservation and expansion of knowledge, a historian and archaeologist, and naturally suspicious.
Franky: If he could be convinced to do the job, he'd probably make decent decisions, but he'd probably spend most of his time screwing around or inventing weapons. Ineffective, but highly entertaining.
Brook: Has decent judgment and a lot of experience, but I question his sanity and ability to actually focus long enough to get administrative work done. He'd probably spend most of his time screwing around and asking to see panties.
Let's see…Luffy: Too much of an idiot. Seems to have a knack for surrounding himself with the right people for the job, but he has a tendency to not listen to them. He should be a chief of staff, though.Zoro: Not interested enough to make a good leader. He'd completely neglect it, and just cut members of the opposition party when they got in his way.Nami: Would probably make an excellent politician, but would rob everyone blind in the process.Usopp: Probably a decent decision-maker, but prone to lying.Sanji: Certainly smart enough to run shit, if he could be convinced to do the job, but he'd just kick the shit out of the opposition party when they got in his way.Chopper: Too easily manipulated. Smart enough to do the job, but simply not cut out for politics.Robin: Perfect for the job. Intelligent, values preservation and expansion of knowledge, a historian and archaeologist, and naturally suspicious.Franky: If he could be convinced to do the job, he'd probably make decent decisions, but he'd probably spend most of his time screwing around or inventing weapons. Ineffective, but highly entertaining.Brook: Has decent judgment and a lot of experience, but I question his sanity and ability to actually focus long enough to get administrative work done. He'd probably spend most of his time screwing around and asking to see panties.
Haha.. I enjoyed reading that.
Congratulations enther! Our first fascist voter lol!
Would Zoro get in time for his reunions with other countries leaders? lol
Robin is the ideal choice.
Luffy is the worst.
Here's some pros and cons for each:
Luffy
Zoro
Nami
Usopp
Sanji
Chopper
Robin
Franky
Brook
If you think I missed something important, feel free to add.
A Nami term would have a good mix of assertiveness and intrigue. @Czechmate:
Franky, because his scandals would be the most entertaining.
And Franky for this.
I'll throw Brook a vote though…he's the most likely to get re-elected because of his music mind-control voodoo :ninja:
It is hard to say. I first thought Robin (and voted her), but now I've thought of it, I'm not sure. Robin is definitely one of the more sensible of them, but she is generally too passive - she wouldn't be as quick to step up for a key issue as most of the others. And she dislikes the government. It could end up as quite the anarchy, though I don't know if she has some hidden political compassion that would make her try to prevent it.
Chopper would definitely the one with the best intentions, but he is too young, naive and ignorant of the world, so even if I voted him, he would just end up being manipulated by his peers and become more of a figurehead. Not to start a real life politics discussion, but if I was American, I would probably vote for him in hope of improved healthcare.
If I was a chauvinist female, I might have voted Sanji just because of all the new exclusive rights my gender would have. Even though I believe Sanji stated back in Alabasta that he doesn't understand politics…
Franky and Brook are weirdos - it would be hilarious to follow their escapades if they had a career in politics, but I just cannot take them into account if I have to answer seriously. Luffy is a retard, and while Zoro is smarter in some areas, he would probably be a retard as well when it comes to politics.
Back we have Nami and Usopp who would, with some exaggaration and prejudice from my part, be more or less the only realistic politicans. I'm not really a capitalist so that completely leaves out Nami. On the other hand, a Nami-governed country would probably not be capitalist but instead a caricatured socialist country with all inhabitants being public employees or on welfare payments so she could easier regulate how many money they would receive and how many the government could keep to itself (or herself, she would probably cheat and manipulate the others). In Nami's version, that's not any better.
Usopp is all around a decent guy with some sympathetic stances, and as others have mentioned, he has the gift for making speeches. Of course he has a few problems: He is a bit too young, he could be too afraid to act on his word, and he is liar. Not that I like the latter flaw at all, but I'm almost getting used to it with my country's current government, so if Usopp just kept one or two of his election promises, I could maybe put up with it. But still...
I don't really know... Can't I vote for an Usopp/Robin coalition?
I don't know why people are saying its a negative for Usopp to be a liar …. that is a main trait for a politician!
EVERY politician lies at some point!
No matter how good and noble they are, politicians lie, its all about what and how they lie about.
Usopp would actually try to do his best due to the simple fact he loves being praised, and he would try to stay out of conflicts he knows the country can not afford. But if its really necessary, then he will do what is needed.
People point out that "Usopp is a coward", I say he's a coward when he knows its a situation over his head. If he knows the enemy's strength is same as his own, he has no problem (points to FI -manga NOT anime filler crap) and can takes a strong stand.
Its for that point I voted for Usopp over Robin. She's good but I keep remember scenes where something really outrageously strong or monstrous comes up = She says "interesting" and willing to fight , while Usopp is the voice of caution.
Now don't get me wrong, that's wonderful (and highly entertaining to read) for the SHs in the One Piece world, but not great with ordinary soldiers in the real world
Usopp is the epitome of politician
I'd vote for Franky because I feel that eventually he will replace our water supply with a cola supply, which I am okay with
I voted Luffy.
Aside from being incapable of lying, he is exceptionally good at seeing the bigger picture.
Also if we're going by the Canadian system, Question Period should be a blast for the second time in its miserable existance.
Of course, what would make a good politician in the, say, US wouldn't necessarily make one in Finland. Since we are a small country with very little corruption we could use a humble, honest president who would just keep the wheels running how they do while paying attention to smaller problems like youth marginalization and obesity rates. For that, Robin would probably be the best pick.
I'm just amazed that Taoiseach was considered important enough to mention…...
But, I'd go Nami. She's smart, authoritative, strong-willed, empathetic, and good-looking (not very important but it means she'd be easier to promote).
Luffy and Zoro are too reckless and stupid.
Sanji would be a good choice but could offend some people due to his chauvinistic beliefs and swearing.
Ussop might not have the courage for it.
Chopper is far too naive.
Robin fits many aspects but a leader needs to be active while she's rather passive.
Franky would be pretty good as well but he's too eccentric; he'd goof off too much, have no interest, or embarrass the nation at an international event.
Brooke is a bit senile, so he wouldn't work out either.
@Light:
Of course, what would make a good politician in the, say, US wouldn't necessarily make one in Finland. Since we are a small country with very little corruption we could use a humble, honest president who would just keep the wheels running how they do while paying attention to smaller problems like youth marginalization and obesity rates. For that, Robin would probably be the best pick.
Someone in Finland needs to get the gay marriage ball rolling.
Jinbe hands down.
@Monkey:
Someone in Finland needs to get the gay marriage ball rolling.
We already did.
They introduced a Citizens' initiative system (that mostly works online) last year, through which you are able to create initiatives and gather signatures from people using their official bank account details. It lets you log onto your bank account, requests your name and your social ID number, and uses that information for the signature, all in cooperation with the banks operating here - a pretty sweet system if you ask me. One of the first things anyone seriously put some effort into was shaping a new equal-marriage bill that got a fairly big number of signatures in just a couple of days (300k of the required 150k in about three days, if I recall correctly), and now it's going to be reviewed by the parliament.
The only real bummer about it is that the government parties, while not addressing it directly, have already more or less said they will not vote in favour of the initiative. All due to the fact that one of the coalition parties is our small but vocal Christian party that abhors homosexuality (and thus has a different stance than the national church, dun dun duunn) and the already very shaky government needs every MEP vote they can get, so they won't risk anything. It'll be shot down immediately.
It's becoming a more and more pressing issue here, though, with, for example, a city councilman of the capital recently demanding that the city cut its relations with Moscow and St. Petersburg as a result of the Russian anti gay-propaganda laws. It'll probably pass within the next ten years under a different government.
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As for presidency, I'd honestly go with Zoro given that he gets a cabinet and great advisors to keep his strange impulses in check. He's the kind of a guy who doesn't really address smaller incidents and minor concerns that a state politician might have, but whenever it comes to something very big and serious he's always there taking responsibility and thinking of the best possible way to act in order to ensure everyone's welfare. He'd make a great Reagan-type of a president with some political education.
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@Toraish:
We already did.
They introduced a Citizens' initiative system (that mostly works online) last year, through which you are able to create initiatives and gather signatures from people using their official bank account details. It lets you log onto your bank account, requests your name and your social ID number, and uses that information for the signature, all in cooperation with the banks operating here - a pretty sweet system if you ask me. One of the first things anyone seriously put some effort into was shaping a new equal-marriage bill that got a fairly big number of signatures in just a couple of days (300k of the required 150k in about three days, if I recall correctly), and now it's going to be reviewed by the parliament.
The only real bummer about it is that the government parties, while not addressing it directly, have already more or less said they will not vote in favour of the initiative. All due to the fact that one of the coalition parties is our small but vocal Christian party that abhors homosexuality (and thus has a different stance than the national church, dun dun duunn) and the already very shaky government needs every MEP vote they can get, so they won't risk anything. It'll be shot down immediately.
It's becoming a more and more pressing issue here, though, with, for example, a city councilman of the capital recently demanding that the city cut its relations with Moscow and St. Petersburg as a result of the Russian anti gay-propaganda laws. It'll probably pass within the next ten years under a different government.
That sort of domino effect thing is fascinating.
Like Russia gets harder line, and that seems to motivate Finns more? Like "man fuck those guys, that's awful, let's emphasize our difference!".
And I'm sure there's folks in Finland looking at how all the other Nordic countries have it.
Here you see both of that. Like Oregon realizing it's the only Pacific coast portion without it, and feeling embarrassed. And likewise nutty shitheads in states like Texas getting even MORE anti-gay.
As for presidency, I'd honestly go with Zoro given that he gets a cabinet and great advisors to keep his strange impulses in check. He's the kind of a guy who doesn't really address smaller incidents and minor concerns that a state politician might have, but whenever it comes to something very big and serious he's always there taking responsibility and thinking of the best possible way to act in order to ensure everyone's welfare. He'd make a great Reagan-type of a president with some political education.
So someone who wouldn't ensure everyone's welfare than lol.
@Monkey:
So someone who wouldn't ensure everyone's welfare than lol.
^Exactly why I said he needs a cabinet and advisors. If he's the figurehead who only makes the biggest and most important decisions and leaves everything else to his underlings and to the other political organs - basically how our system used to work before the changes to the constitution stripped the president from almost all of his/her power, and you must remember that I have a different perspective to how political systems operate and how the legislative and fiscal decisions are made - it's going to work okay.
I'm more comparing characters and certain characteristics than their entire lines of thinking. If you let Zoro handle the crises, he's dependable. If you make him deal with complicated political agendas that have long-lasting effects, he's absolutely lost and likely to make incredibly detrimental choices.
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@Monkey:
And likewise nutty shitheads in states like Texas getting even MORE anti-gay.
I love my home state but hate its politics. From what I remember Ann Richards (she was aroudn the time I just started to pay some attention to TX politics) wasn't bab but the governors after her have been "true-blue republicans, bible-belt bible-thumpin, god-fearin real Texans" … and yes that is a quote :getlost: I can't remember which one said it but it was a senator during papa Bush term
The Texas state government been getting worse and worse for the past 20 years. Trying to 'fix' the education system (yeah it was bad even before that) but only makes it worse, then the anti-gay, anti-abortion maniacs. I was glad to move out of TX ... only to be dismayed when Walker got into office in Wisconsin :getlost:
Luffy
- Dumbass
Zoro
- Dumbass
- Violent
Sanji
- Swears a lot
Franky
- Scandalous
Brook
- Experience
- Mostly polite
- Being already dead, assassination would be incredibly hard to pull off.
- Celebrity
- Senile
- Pervert
If you think I missed something important, feel free to add.
Thanks for this post; I am in tears.
The sad thing is that in my country, any of the Strawhats could do better than 70% of our actual politicians, even the likes of Luffy or Chopper.
I love my home state but hate its politics. From what I remember Ann Richards (she was aroudn the time I just started to pay some attention to TX politics) wasn't bab but the governors after her have been "true-blue republicans, bible-belt bible-thumpin, god-fearin real Texans" … and yes that is a quote :getlost: I can't remember which one said it but it was a senator during papa Bush term
The Texas state government been getting worse and worse for the past 20 years. Trying to 'fix' the education system (yeah it was bad even before that) but only makes it worse, then the anti-gay, anti-abortion maniacs. I was glad to move out of TX ... only to be dismayed when Walker got into office in Wisconsin :getlost:
Wisconsin is cool though. You guys are going to feel that exact domino effect sooner than later. Once Illinois gets gay marriage forgeddabout it. You'll be virtually surrounded!
which ever way i see it Robin is the best candidate for the job.
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@Monkey:
Wisconsin is cool though. You guys are going to feel that exact domino effect sooner than later. Once Illinois gets gay marriage forgeddabout it. You'll be virtually surrounded!
I had high hopes for the recall Walker move ..but it fell through. But I think he's not popular enough to be re-elected in the next election, esp with his track record with the public sector. If I could compare him to a OP character it would be Wapol LOL
that's how much the lower class feels Walker ignores our problems.
Heck he wanted to take some money from public schools to fund kids of wealthier families! His actions against unions included teachers … one thing about teachers unions is not just money, they make sure the education is good and control the size of the class room, too big its and the teachers can't teach so well. ...its one problem of Texas school back when I was going there.
I had high hopes for the recall Walker move ..but it fell through. But I think he's not popular enough to be re-elected in the next election, esp with his track record with the public sector. If I could compare him to a OP character it would be Wapol LOL
that's how much the lower class feels Walker ignores our problems.
Heck he wanted to take some money from public schools to fund kids of wealthier families! His actions against unions included teachers … one thing about teachers unions is not just money, they make sure the education is good and control the size of the class room, too big its and the teachers can't teach so well. ...its one problem of Texas school back when I was going there.
Worst comes to worst, you're a hop and a skip from the Twin Cities.
Heh, I like the idea behind this thread. Well…..I choose Robin, she's intelligent, has integrity, and definitely not the type to be swayed by bribes.
Now for the worst? I want to say Luffy, but even he would be better than….Zoro?
lol I wish I could afford to move to the coast of Oregon. Its the most beautiful area I've seen.
Heh, I like the idea behind this thread. Well…..I choose Robin, she's intelligent, has integrity, and definitely not the type to be swayed by bribes.
Now for the worst? I want to say Luffy, but even he would be better than….Zoro?
Zoro to me is the option of scary people (no offense Dryish lol).
Like people who would just want to vote for a scary strong guy to beat people up. The voting base for neo-nazi groups in Europe lol.
@Monkey:
Zoro to me is the option of scary people (no offense Dryish lol).
Like people who would just want to vote for a scary strong guy to beat people up. The voting base for neo-nazi groups in Europe lol.
I don't think that Toraish was too far off in comparing Zoro's presidency to Reagan's.
Vaguely reminds me of Putin, as well.
None taken, a small part of the reason I went for Zoro was that I wanted to see your reaction when someone other than a "Zoro is so cool slicing every annoyance up!" kind of a person picks him as their candidate and responds to your earlier Neo-Nazi taunt. I'm just as responsible for you having to make that remark. :P
In all seriousness, though, I think it depends a lot on what part of Zoro we are talking about and on whether we actually consider everything he has ever done to be in line with his actual personality that he would also display if he was elected. I think there's a slight disconnect between his brutish "Urgh, me want fight. Why Luffy fight. Strongman want too" one-liners and his more serious, level-headed side that he showed the most of back at TB. It's probably because Oda has less time for proper character interactions now so he resorts more often to the bare bones character types that he's designated for each SH member and that leads to the characters seeming more one-dimensional.
If Zoro were to do stupid things in a position where he would have all the power in the world, yeah, he would be absolutely terrifying as a leader. And to anyone else reading this, if you're thinking Zoro just because he could get rid of the imagined enemies of your country then get out, you don't understand how politics affects the lives of literal masses of people and what kind of a hell it can become to live either under a rule that's very oppressive or to be threatened by one. Or attacked by one, but that's a whole other matter.
If, however, he's the backbone of the governmental institutions and the one staying cool when it's most needed and leaves everything else to the people who are actually capable of doing so - which, by the way, is what I think he's more like even in the manga - it might just work out well. A good government needs a strong popular public figure to work ideally and vice versa, and Zoro provides that with his leadership if he's not rash and aggressive.
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As far as the most suitable skillsets for politicians to have are considered, though, it's fairly clear that Robin and Usopp are the best suited for that. Sanji possibly as well, but he has some weaknessess that a good leader and a politician would suffer from. Same goes for Nami.
Franky would otherwise be a really good pick, especially the way that he's been acting recently, but he still has some of his outlandish thug mannerisms left that more or less render his politicks ineffective since every single person in the political world would immediately turn against him and punish him for doing something as inappropriate as threatening to beat up someone to get coveted information out of them.
I don't think that Toraish was too far off in comparing Zoro's presidency to Reagan's.
Vaguely reminds me of Putin, as well.
I was going to go with Putin as well, regarding Zoro, he's is more of a Security guard than anything else
You don't understand much of how Putin governs his country, though. He's very strictly the kind of a ruler who keeps all the power to himself and who, with the help of his cabinet and some personal advisors, governs most nation-level legislation and the high level of decision-making himself. Everything has to get his approval before it can be presented, and if someone says something that does not appease him that person will swiftly be removed.
Don't think of Putin as a some sort of a muscle-headed brute running a country. He's much closer to an evil James Bond villain than to a weird Russian Rambo.
Also, I can't ever see Zoro caring nearly as much even if he gets elected. He'd just tell people to stop troubling him with trifling matters and make sure others do what he can't do because it doesn't interest him and because he'd much rather just spend his time doing something more enjoyable.
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@Toraish:
You don't understand much of how Putin governs his country, though. He's very strictly the kind of a ruler who keeps all the power to himself and who, with the help of his cabinet and some personal advisors, governs most nation-level legislation and the high level of decision-making himself. Everything has to get his approval before it can be presented, and if someone says something that does not appease him that person will swiftly be removed.
Don't think of Putin as a some sort of a muscle-headed brute running a country. He's much closer to an evil James Bond villain than to a weird Russian Rambo.
Also, I can't ever see Zoro caring nearly as much even if he gets elected. He'd just tell people to stop troubling him with trifling matters and make sure others do what he can't do because it doesn't interest him and because he'd much rather just spend his time doing something more enjoyable.
It must be weird as heck to live next to Russia but be a fully healthy first world western European style country.
Like everywhere else you get transition zones.
Like from Germany you go through Gettin There Poland into Nakedly Still Sovet Belarus before Russia.
But Finland is just right the fuck next to it lol. And not in some "Hi I'm Norway and my backyard forest I dont go in technically touches them" or a "Alaska can see empty wastelands from it's house!"
Like yall got Helsinki about a stones throw from St Petersburg!
Robin for sure, she is very intelligent, knows tons about culture, she had a hard past and can connect that with tons of people, as well as I think she would be the most serious for the job.
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