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    • Monkey King
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      @DARK_RITUAL:

      Yeah I may be wrong but that's what theory is for, and I said Diamanté cuz only Diamanté n Trebol was the guys who got much attention on the flashback, and Diamanté got the most screen then we start seeing toys. Well is just a prediction.

      Trebol didn't get attention in the flashback though??
      Diamante was the only one shown specifically.
      We see all three Sleeve leads in that one far shot.

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          I think Daimante is the toy Devilfruit user. Doflamingo came 10years with a toy DF user to takeover Dressrosa and we can see Trebol, and Daimante standing next to Dofla, we already know Trebol is a logia, so that leaves Daimante..

          when they show diamante, toy soldier was already a toy. Diamante didn't know who he was.

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          Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.

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            Just realized, but doesn't this make Doflamingo essentially Crocodile if he actually succeeded in Alabasta?

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              @Phoenix:

              More confirmation that toy soldier is Rebecca's dad.

              Ricky is most likely King Riku. Scarlett falls in love with Kyros. Scarlett leaves/gets banished from the palace for being with a Gladiator. They have Rebecca and live in poverty. Doflamingo arrives with the toy devil fruit user (could be Diamante) and turns people into toys including Kyros. Which explains why nobody remembers Kyros and since toys seem to go back to their previous life explains why Rebecca sees the toy soldier as her father.

              Doflamingo using the confusion from the people losing memories from the toys. Goes behind the shadows puppetering events making it look like the previous kingdom was corrupt. Sets fire to the kingdom placing the blame on the king. Starts hunting down people from the lineage either killing them or turning them into toys. Eventually the country ends up hating the king and wants a change. Doflamingo then takes over as king and is loved by the people since he changed everything for the better.

              Very in depth and well stated. I put a similar theory up on the last page but yours is far more detailed!

              _"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron

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                @Monkey:

                How the fuck is there ANYTHING in common between Vivi, Hancock, and Shirahoshi you clueless doofus.

                Members of the Princesses(queen) Who Want Future Pirate King CoC(k) Club?
                Certainly the new membership was mailed to Rebecca.

                …. Now I need to come up with a reason why the dwarf princess will join the club.

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                  I can't see Smoker doing such thing to high level pirates like Law, Vergo etc but maybe Luffy will fall for it..

                  Still the door is now open for him to just force himself down people's throats

                  That shit is brutal

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                    @ForumNoob:

                    when they show diamante, toy soldier was already a toy. Diamante didn't know who he was.

                    He had a hood on in that scene. So it was obvious he was trying to keep his identity a secret.

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                      Hey, so you guy's remember someone whose past was presented and didnt become a nakama (i thinking about ppl important for arc)? Vivi was (is?) nakama for the time being, I remember Shirahoshi got her 5 minutes as a kid. So still her past was kind of short. I wonder if she become a new nakama.

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                        Just realized, but doesn't this make Doflamingo essentially Crocodile if he actually succeeded in Alabasta?

                        Crocodile plan was rough and probably will get WG's attention when they learn Robin's involvement. While DD's was carefully planed and built.

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                          Look, it was a good chapter and I'm one of the few who likes Rebecca's back story but her looking like Nami is scary and hard to let go for me for some reason. I didn't think Viviv/ Hancock / Mermaid princess looked like her but this…I am looking forward to the rest of the arc either way though, looks like we are trying to finish the tournament before getting into the other plots, I'm more so looking forward to Bart's fight and hope he gets some scenes in with Luffy before that, should be fun 🙂

                          Here's what I think, after the tournament arc is over and Luffy's group goes in search of Dof, will rewind time and see what happened to the others plots, that's happened before so.

                          Also, the toy being her father? Thought it was her love interest, bum bum bum plot twist 😄

                          Hate that we have another break, guess getting the chapter out early was to make up for that 😞

                          Luffy fan.

                          LuffyxHancock or LuffyxNami? I can't decide.

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                            Also, the toy being her father? Thought it was her love interest, bum bum bum plot twist 😄

                            Well hasn't Oda said that he prefers not to let romantic love come to the forefront of OP

                            So most scenarios that could possibly be about lovers, probably aren't

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                              Very in depth and well stated. I put a similar theory up on the last page but yours is far more detailed!

                              This guy post something similar:

                              @Monkeylover:

                              Theory about Ricky and Kyros so far:

                              Ricky is Rebeccas grandpa King Riku. He was not a bad king but very proud, traditional and honorable. Rebeccas mom was his daughter. She fell in Love with Dressrosas hero at the time. Kyros the mighty Gladiator. She fell in love with him got pregnant. Father expelled her from the palace asked DoFlamingo to help him punish Kyros. He couldnt by himself since Kyros was the strongest fighter on Dressrosa at that time. Flamingo comes in with his crew, cuts of Kyros leg and has someone in his crew make him into a toy. After that King Riku notices Flamingos bad character. With Kyros out of the picture Flamingo finds a way to take over Dressrosa.
                              In the flashback Toy Soldier says that through Rebeccas vains flows the same royal blood as in her mothers. We see that Rebecca and her mother live in a house and not the palace. Ricky during B Block makes a comment about the Prodense king as if he had running with his father Elisabello the first. This, his name, attitude, the short flashback in the catacombes and todays flshback pretty much confirm that he is old King Riku form my point of view. He doesnt have an injury, like Kyros is supposed to and he was to weak.
                              Soldier San has all the markers to be Kyros. Injury, strong fighter, relationship with Rebeccas mother, explains why the Rebecca and mom didnt live in the palace and so on.

                              Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!

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                                Hey, so you guy's remember someone whose past was presented and didnt become a nakama (i thinking about ppl important for arc)? Vivi was (is?) nakama for the time being, I remember Shirahoshi got her 5 minutes as a kid. So still her past was kind of short. I wonder if she become a new nakama.

                                Vivi is not a member of the crew.
                                Her flashback also served to focus almost entirely on noted strawhat crewmate Kohza.

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                                  Well hasn't Oda said that he prefers not to let romantic love come to the forefront of OP

                                  So most scenarios that could possibly be about lovers, probably aren't

                                  What about Hancock than? Not that I mind the toy being her father, Oda doesn't seem to mind love stories that much to put in Hancock falling in love with Luffy plot, than we have Violet too. Guess he doesn't want to add in too much of that.

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                                  Also, I could see he being a Vivi type of character and joining for a short time, her
                                  being a Princess yah don't see her joining. If any thing, Bart has more of a chance than
                                  her in my opinion, he'd be willing to follow Luffy like the true fan boy he isXD

                                  Luffy fan.

                                  LuffyxHancock or LuffyxNami? I can't decide.

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                                    What about Hancock than? Not that I mind the toy being her father, Oda doesn't seem to mind love stories that much
                                    to put in Hancock falling in love with Luffy plot, than we have Violet too. Guess he doesn't want to add in too much of
                                    that.

                                    I feel really bad for you if you can't tell the whole Hancock thing is a joke as much as Bartolomew.

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                                      Crocodile plan was rough and probably will get WG's attention when they learn Robin's involvement. While DD's was carefully planed and built.

                                      Obviously there are huge differences. I was drawing a parallel, not saying the situations are identical down to the last detail

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                                        Can we all agree that soilder sans a G?

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                                          dont know how to enlarge the part i want to focus on. but; that guy to the right of Trebol looks totally badass. kinda looks like a beast of some type

                                          Originally Posted by Monkey King

                                          Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.

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                                            You know what? At first I was hating the idea of Rebecca for Nakama…
                                            but now? KICK THEIR ASSES BABY! BECOME ONE WITH THE NAKAMA!
                                            Even if you ended up as a Vivi/Jinbei kinda nakama.

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                                              dont know how to enlarge the part i want to focus on. but; that guy to the right of Trebol looks totally badass. kinda looks like a beast of some type http://i998.mangareader.net/one-piece/721/one-piece-4448175.jpg

                                              The tall guy to the right of Trebol is Diamante.

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                                                @Monkey:

                                                I feel really bad for you if you can't tell the whole Hancock thing is a joke as much as Bartolomew.

                                                Holy freakin heck, I know it was a joke but still counts.

                                                Luffy fan.

                                                LuffyxHancock or LuffyxNami? I can't decide.

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                                                  Holy freakin heck, I know it was a joke but still counts.

                                                  Dunno about that. It's more this funny one sided chasing pepe le pew deal they've got going on

                                                  There's no genuine romance going on

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                                                    @Monkey:

                                                    The tall guy to the right of Trebol is Diamante.

                                                    Isn't Diamante next to the Donquixote flag, to the Trebol's left?

                                                    Messed up, thought you meant right, like Trebol's right.

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                                                      @RobZilla:

                                                      Isn't Diamante next to the Donquixote flag, to the Trebol's left?

                                                      Nobody said "Trebol's left", he just said to the left of Trebol.

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                                                        Another possibility is Diamante is the one who inflicted the wound on Kyros. He cut of his leg in one of the fights and eventually became the colisseum champion. Kyros couldn't fight anymore so Scarlett left the palace to be with him.

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                                                          Holy freakin heck, I know it was a joke but still counts.

                                                          No, it really doesn't lol.

                                                          reads your sig

                                                          OHHHHHHHHH, so I guess I should feel bad for you then!

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                                                            @Monkey:

                                                            The tall guy to the right of Trebol is Diamante.

                                                            i meant to his actual right. i know the one standing alone is diamante.

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                                                            Isn't Diamante next to the Donquixote flag, to the Trebol's left?

                                                            Messed up, thought you meant right, like Trebol's right.

                                                            this is what i meant

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                                                            Nobody said "Trebol's left", he just said to the left of Trebol.

                                                            i said to the right of trebol. trebol's right

                                                            Originally Posted by Monkey King

                                                            Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.

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                                                              No, it really doesn't lol.

                                                              reads your sig

                                                              OHHHHHHHHH, so I guess I should feel bad for you then!

                                                              What counts as a love story to you than? I'm into that kind of stuff, I admit it watch comedy romance romance type, not saying Hancock / Luffy will ever become canon but some anime I watch start out one sided. Excuse me for saying that, some reason it seems to have ticked you off 😕

                                                              Luffy fan.

                                                              LuffyxHancock or LuffyxNami? I can't decide.

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                                                                Obviously there are huge differences. I was drawing a parallel, not saying the situations are identical down to the last detail

                                                                Yes, but if Crocodile succeeded in Alabasta, he doesn't plan to getting friendly with the world and care his kingdom. While DD is enjoying his status.
                                                                But if you mean it's about the coup, then it's the same. We can also add Hody in the group.

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                                                                  So, last chapter we found out Rebecca is Nami. This time we find out her mother is Nami.

                                                                  Oh well, I hate to say this, but this chapter was terrible. Since I don't have anything good to say about it, I will stop here and say that at least I loved the cover. Finally we can see Caribou doing something! This guy is a supernova after all.

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                                                                    i meant to his actual right. i know the one standing alone is diamante.

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                                                                    this is what i meant

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                                                                    i said to the right of trebol. trebol's right

                                                                    Huh I actually did get what you meant after all. yaldi.

                                                                    Do you mean the thing(s) that kind of look like a set of horns, to Trebol's right?

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                                                                      Hey, so you guy's remember someone whose past was presented and didnt become a nakama (i thinking about ppl important for arc)? Vivi was (is?) nakama for the time being, I remember Shirahoshi got her 5 minutes as a kid. So still her past was kind of short. I wonder if she become a new nakama.

                                                                      Buggy.

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                                                                        Huh I actually did get what you meant after all. yaldi.

                                                                        Do you mean the thing(s) that kind of look like a set of horns, to Trebol's right?

                                                                        yeah. It looks like some kind of animal. wouldnt say fishman, so maybe a devil fruit user. Whatever it is, looks like a bad bad man(err thing)

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                                                                        Shut up junior, you don't even understand the first thing about the discussion. Go masturbate by yourself.

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                                                                          Sorry if this is a stupid question, is there no chapter next week? Thanks

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                                                                            Nice chapter, tough the flashback did feel a little rushed. It just could have been little longer so that it could carry more emotional impact. Not that it was terrible tough; I loved how jealous toy soldier was about the love letter boy! 😆

                                                                            Also it's a little thing, but I like how much darker tone Oda has taken in his story, enough to actually show dead bodies on-screen. I don't think he has done that after Ace and Whitebeard (and even he was little shadowed).

                                                                            Doflamingo's clearly somehow responsible for tarnishing Riku's reputation (btw that's a nickname here in Finland; gonna take some to get used to :pouty:), but honestly I would find it more interesting if he actually was a horrible tyrant, since it would make Doffy less of a "cardboard villain beyond everything that's wrong in this kingdom" and the whole situation more complicated when Rebecca and SH's try to ursup him! Of course she's gonna beloved by her subjects in the end but still!
                                                                            Oh well, maybe Oda takes the longer route for once. 😄

                                                                            That little girl being Doffy's daughter might be more likely after all. If he needed to ensure his throne and support, he probably had to make sure he would have a potential successor a.k.a. a kid. But the question is that who is the mother? Jora? :ninja: Just kidding!

                                                                            Also having a relationship with a toy = definitely kinky! I know that sex isn't all there is in partnership, but there still needs to be sexual tension! Otherwise we would fall in love with anyone and not just the genders we are sexually attracted to!

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                                                                              mangastream is out… not that it is needed.

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                                                                              Some long-term predictions: Vegapunk with Paw-Paw fruit for Nakama!!! Kaidou is gonna be killed by Blackbeard and get his strongest Zoan DF!!!

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                                                                                The more I read the MangaStream version, the more I wish Soldier AND Rebecca would join the crew. I mean, yeah, Rebecca is nice and all, but I just love the Soldier character - how much he had to fight to rise Rebecca, he had to work, defend her and always be there for her and never asked for anything for himself. A rather tragic character, really.

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                                                                                  Hmmm, the MS translation suggests teh Riku family's tyrannical rule had been ongoing for centuries before Doffy arrived. Interesting.

                                                                                  Also, assuming that the indistinct guy on page left under Doflamingo is Spada. Honestly doesn't really show any more than his silhouette on teh seat did.

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                                                                                    Okay this just bugs me. How kinky does this go?

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                                                                                    Don't judge here….......everybody's 'preferences' are different. Actually it could be very convenient, because its like she has both a lady companion who understand her and a 'Toy' for......certain things all in one.

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                                                                                      Not a bad overall chapter. Definitely seems to point towards my suspicion that Ricky is the ex-king and the toy soldier is Kyros (and Rebecca's father).

                                                                                      Still, after the last couple chapters, it felt like a bit of a letdown to me.

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                                                                                        I'm just a little disappointed we didn't get to see Dofla's awesome goggles look from Chapter 0 in the flashback.

                                                                                        _"_Now! This is it! Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!" - Auron

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                                                                                          @Supernova122:

                                                                                          Also, assuming that the indistinct guy on page left under Doflamingo is Spada.

                                                                                          Don't you mean Pala?

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                                                                                            What a great chapter. Doflamingo what an Evil Tyrant . Diamante looks so evil. Dressrosa such a Great Arc. Take your extra week Oda-sama just keep writing great manga 😄

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                                                                                              Im actually a little impressed with Caribou making headway against Scotch….........but what will he do about Kaido? Any way, pretty good chapter; it explains a lot about Rebecca, the Toy Soldier and the History of Dressrosa. Now I see why Rebecca refused the food; she likely still blames herself for her mom's death. It also made me want to see what that Diamante can do already.

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                                                                                                Once again a surprisingly fun chapter. I thought I wouldn't like Rebecca's flashback but I ended up really enjoying it. I especially loved the bit where the toy solider punches the kid with the love letter acting like an overprotective father. The relationship between the toy solider and Rebecca was really nice and I'm guessing the toy soldier is either her father or her Grand father.

                                                                                                I was also surprised that the entire nation actually knows who Rebecca is. The fact that the crowd hates is just going to make it even worse when Rebecca eventually loses in block D because at the moment I just can't see her beating Cavendish.

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                                                                                                  Im actually a little impressed with Caribou making headway against Scotch….........but what will he do about Kaido?

                                                                                                  Nothing?? lol, what the hell makes you think Caribou is gonna stick around and wait for Kaidou to send entirely hypothetical reinforcements.
                                                                                                  If Caribou can take this guy down anyway he's obviously not a very important person in Kaidou's crew.

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                                                                                                    Nothing?? lol, what the hell makes you think Caribou is gonna stick around and wait for Kaidou to send entirely hypothetical reinforcements.
                                                                                                    If Caribou can take this guy down anyway he's obviously not a very important person in Kaidou's crew.

                                                                                                    Well he might not care about his caretaker but as we remember Drake was warned that this is essentially his summer home

                                                                                                    Drake figured that attacking this place would bring a response from Kaido himself. Should be no different with Caribou

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                                                                                                      @Light:

                                                                                                      Nice chapter, tough the flashback did feel a little rushed. It just could have been little longer so that it could carry more emotional impact. Not that it was terrible tough; I loved how jealous toy soldier was about the love letter boy! 😆

                                                                                                      He wasn't jealous. He was fending the suitor off.

                                                                                                      Also the flashback was good enough as it is - brief and heartwarming. We've also had a little glimpse of Dressrosa's past through Rebecca's perspective. Obviously there's still a whole lot of information being held back - Oda's saving it for the grand reveal once we get to main man himself.

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                                                                                                        Well he might not care about his caretaker but as we remember Drake was warned that this is essentially his summer home

                                                                                                        Drake figured that attacking this place would bring a response from Kaido himself. Should be no different with Caribou

                                                                                                        True. So now would be the perfect time for Caribou to get the hell out of dodge. Which is the option he will most likely take. Away with his new revolutionary friends and Granny.

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