I have a theory that is gonna make me piss my pants if I'm right: Sakura's perfect fantasy is gonna be being with Sasuke and him paying attention to her. She going to love it at first, but then soon not feel right with all the attention he's giving her. "You're not the sasuke I grew up with" and all that. Then she slowly realizes that her feelings for him are gone and then she finally sees naruto as the one she really loves.
I hope to high heaven that I'm wrong. I still have hope for Hinata.
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It look longer than I expected but it happened at last: Madara's finally got a third eye right smack dab in the middle of his forehead.
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About 5 more Naruto chapters.
I CAN FEEL IT.
I hope to high heaven that I'm wrong. I still have hope for Hinata.
Why you hate Hinata so much?
http://www.mangareader.net/184-11822-1/3x3-eyes/chapter-1.html
Let's all just read a chapter or two a day and discuss something cool for a change. Its 576 chapters, we could totally do this for a year.
It's got summons and supernatural characters and bloody fights and even characters with magic eyes that do weird crap!
The early chapters even have crossdressers so we can even have that debate!
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http://www.mangareader.net/184-11822-1/3x3-eyes/chapter-1.html
Let's all just read a chapter or two a day and discuss something cool for a change. Its 576 chapters, we could totally do this for a year.
It's got summons and supernatural characters and bloody fights and even characters with magic eyes that do weird crap!
The early chapters even have crossdressers so we can even have that debate!
You should've done that 100 Naruto/Bleach chapters ago.
Everything's Eventual…
http://www.mangareader.net/184-11822-1/3x3-eyes/chapter-1.html
Let's all just read a chapter or two a day and discuss something cool for a change. Its 576 chapters, we could totally do this for a year.
It's got summons and supernatural characters and bloody fights and even characters with magic eyes that do weird crap!
The early chapters even have crossdressers so we can even have that debate!
Is this one of those "back in the day" translations where the pages got flipped?
You should've done that 100 Naruto/Bleach chapters ago.
I thought Naruto would be over by now!
@Cyan:
Is this one of those "back in the day" translations where the pages got flipped?
Yeah. All the way back in 91, from official real comic books!
Somewhere along the way Dark Horse stopped publishing it and it switches to fan scanlations instead, and flips back to original orientation then.
I just did a brief read through of the first chapter and the last chapter like I always do with new series and holy shit what
God, I remember this series. I thought it had a really strong start but contracted Inuyasha syndrome where it really felt dragging , fighting against the same villains over and over and over again and overall going for way longer than the plot needed. It has been a while since I last read it though.
Naruto: This manga is absolute ass
Bleach: So wait, does zombie girl also have super regenerating powers? Cuz her torso nearly got cut clean in half there.
from official real comic books!
I've always found hand-written text bubbles in translated manga really charming, especially with how niche it was at the time. It really gives off the impression the people really really loved what they were doing and loved the comics they were working on.
Naruto…ok, so if I understand this correctly Madara could have absorbed the tree and done this whole eye to the moon thing from the start, correct? Why did he not do that from the start!?
You apparently need two eyes to activate the third eye. And only the third eye can activate the moon technique.
Madara is now a projector. If he stops looking at the moon, the technique ends.
So let me get this straight… The Stone Monument which never had any real importance was left behind by the S6P's - with secrets to a technique to end the world, and this is the guy that's trying to save the world in the realm of the dead, waiting to see the outcome of the world while his retarded sons that continue to reincarnate themselves throughout time can't get along?
And why couldn't the Sage of the Six Paths also reincarnate himself like his two son's? What about his brother? :/
but even with that she didn't seemed retarded like Sakura and Karin(and every other girl in Naruto, except Hinata, that doesn't seem retarded, that doesn't seem to fall into the Sasuke groupie, but into Naruto groupie).
every other girl in Naruto, except Hinata
except Hinata
Hahaha… What?!?
I've always found hand-written text bubbles in translated manga really charming, especially with how niche it was at the time. It really gives off the impression the people really really loved what they were doing and loved the comics they were working on.
ALL text bubbles and writing, on all comics american and manga, were hand written until the mid 90's when it became a digital process.
ALL text bubbles and writing, on all comics american and manga, were hand written until the mid 90's when it became a digital process.
But isn't Oda's dialogue hand-written?! I thought he said that he doesn't like digital process .
coughHinamoricough….
She's a terrible character anyway, way more useless than Sakura.
She is incredibly useless, but most of the lieutenants are tbh.
Does it make me a bad person if I read through "serious" Naruto forums (with the assumption that Naruto trumps all other mangas), just for laughs and face palms?
You mean reading things like "Naruto is so awesome! Because Madara now is so much more powerful! He can now even beat DBZ!!!111"?
Serious naruto forum
So I come back to Naruto ever few years or so to kind of catch up in chunks. It's much less difficult to follow whatever craziness is going on that way. Since it's been a while and I was thinking about getting back to it, the only question I have after a glimpse of the recent chapter is if this is ending near? If it is, I can wait… but if there's gunna be like 100 more chapters of some dream sequence mess, maybe I should bite the bullet and wait another year.
If it is, I can wait… but if there's gunna be like 100 more chapters of some dream sequence mess, maybe I should bite the bullet and wait another year.
I'd wait. Kishi pretty much introduced a really ugly plot point that COULD allow him to extend the franchise EVEN LONGER if he so desired (cough Alien Rabbits cough)
So the skull looking think in the sky could be ichigo, but it also could be ganju and the three fullbring douchebags tsukishima ginjo and the butler. Then we would get 4 on 4, the fullbringers against the girls. No matter who it is though, it will be BLEACH.
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So the skull looking think in the sky could be ichigo, but it also could be ganju and the three fullbring douchebags tsukishima ginju and the butler. Then we would get 4 on 4, the fullbringers against the girls. No matter who it is though, it will be BLEACH.
Thanks for bringing that nightmare up.
Though I feel that it's more likely for someone to take all of them at once. Watch Butler vs Bland Quincy girl squad maybe? Kubo will keep a stopwatch to see how long until people die of disinterest.
Or in the end it's simply just his bankai, lol.
What if…. Ishida was the final boss.
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What if…. Ishida was the final boss.
I'm kinda wondering where Ishida's daddy is in all of this. Maybe they both team up and wipe out the quincys as revenge and both become the father son final boss team XD
Kubo probably forgot ishida has a dad.
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Why didn't you just link to /a/ and /a/ alone?
One question that came to mind - why is Madara evil? I just realized that, even though we've had two extremely long flashbacks which focused on him, I can't recall any sort of explanation for that.
Even Obito has some sort of reason, even if it's a horrible one, but for Madara, I'm not sure why he's doing all of this. It's not because he didn't get to control Konoha, since he ruined his own chances for that by openly sabotaging peace talks that he was supposed to lead, which wouldn't exactly make him come across as a good diplomat, and it's not because the Uchiha were marginalized, since that happened during the time of the Second Hokage, which was after he supposedly died. I don't think it was even because his brother died, since he seemed to waste no time in gouging out his brother's eye to get more power.
I'd rather not reread this train wreck of a war to get an answer for this (it was painful enough the first time around, and I'd have to go back a ludicrous amount of chapters to get the answer), but if anyone recalls why that's the case, that would be great. Normally, I'm not too concerned with the reasons why villains do what they do (if they even get an explanation, it's either nowhere near enough to justify their actions or ridiculously over-the-top in most cases), but given how much time we've already spent on Madara's past, you'd think that a reason would be given somewhere.
Wasn't he thinking that the world can't be changed and that there will always be wars, thus he wants to slave the entire world and put them into the matrix?
One question that came to mind - why is Madara evil? I just realized that, even though we've had two extremely long flashbacks which focused on him, I can't recall any sort of explanation for that.
Even Obito has some sort of reason, even if it's a horrible one, but for Madara, I'm not sure why he's doing all of this. It's not because he didn't get to control Konoha, since he ruined his own chances for that by openly sabotaging peace talks that he was supposed to lead, which wouldn't exactly make him come across as a good diplomat, and it's not because the Uchiha were marginalized, since that happened during the time of the Second Hokage, which was after he supposedly died. I don't think it was even because his brother died, since he seemed to waste no time in gouging out his brother's eye to get more power.
I'd rather not reread this train wreck of a war to get an answer for this (it was painful enough the first time around, and I'd have to go back a ludicrous amount of chapters to get the answer), but if anyone recalls why that's the case, that would be great. Normally, I'm not too concerned with the reasons why villains do what they do (if they even get an explanation, it's either nowhere near enough to justify their actions or ridiculously over-the-top in most cases), but given how much time we've already spent on Madara's past, you'd think that a reason would be given somewhere.
It's pretty straightforward. Madara and Hashirama saw things in a very similar way: the eternal warring with cycles of paranoia and vengeance that defined their lives should come to an end. And they made this happen. But while Hashirama was content with having made the Leaf, and aimed to create a balance of power that would keep peace. Madara was probably pushed by not being Hokage, but really it was he realised (or thought) that the solution was imperfect. In practice, a balance would never hold and peace would never come about just because humans are flawed and prone to warring over all sorts of reasons. This, in time, led him to construct his master plan of putting everyone into an illusion where there was peace under his control. And so there would be no more war. And everyone would be happy.
Why he attacks the Leaf repeatedly is a little bit more mysterious. Perhaps he was in part trying to show Hashirama that his method was flawed: that there would be rogue factions like Madara through all time who would be dissatisfied and would cause more pain and suffering. Alternatively, we know Madara personally enjoys combat, so perhaps he just really wanted to fight (and kill) the man he'd fought so many times before. Maybe some combination of the two.
We know Madara was right, of course. There have been three great ninja wars. And they have clearly had horrible human cost both during and after. See things like the fiasco with Neji's father … or the death of Tsunade's brother ... or any of the many battlefield casualties, implied or otherwise, that we've seen. The balance of power didn't work. And that failure created the likes of Pain and Akatsuki. Granted Madara gave Nagato the power to do what he did, and he planted ideas and did his subtle influencing, but it's clear that something like that would have come about even if he hadn't ...
PII of Naruto has essentially, at it's core, been about this. Kishimoto meandered for, well, quite a while, but this was the whole deal about trying to find a way for peace. Jiraiya struggled and couldn't do it, and he passed the torch on to Naruto. Nagato thought he had a way, but was being pulled along by Madara the whole time, and in the end gave in to Naruto's stubborn determination that "It'll work out somehow." Now Madara (and formerly Obito) are trying to do the same, and once again, the protagonists are standing against with "Yeah, you're right, but I'd rather stubbornly try and make it work out somehow than live in a fake world where I don't have real choices with real impact."
To digress a little, it's an interesting - if entirely unoriginal - theme. It hasn't been played amazingly well, and it's been choked by a bloated war and worse, a bloated battle. And Sasuke's unimpressive silence (but that's the whole of PII really). But it's a nice core to the close of the series - Madara's motivations are compelling, even if Kishimoto does his best to obscure them. Naruto's motivations to oppose him are again quite compelling, and very typical of Naruto, even if they don't get proper focus. And Sasuke's motivations being basically in line with Naruto's but for far more complex and much more recent reasons would be compelling, if Kishimoto would give him a speech bubble with something other than elipses, functional dialogue or "I want to be Hokage."
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@MajinArekkusu:
Wasn't he thinking that the world can't be changed and that there will always be wars, thus he wants to slave the entire world and put them into the matrix?
What if madara's motivation for the war is some kinda watchmen scenario where a great danger emerges and the warring factions put aside their differences and come together to defeat this evil? What if this entire war was his illusion and he is just playing a big bad guy in order to create a big enough treat for the nations to come together and accomplish his dream of a united peaceful world? Its a total asspull but Im not putting it past kishi to make madara a secret good guy all along like itachi.
Putting everyone under genjutsu is pretty deranged but Nagato/Pein's plan for peace was the craziest.
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It was basically nuke the world every once in a while to keep people in line and create short periods of peace. HA!
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What if madara's motivation for the war is some kinda watchmen scenario where a great danger emerges and the warring factions put aside their differences and come together to defeat this evil? What if this entire war was his illusion and he is just playing a big bad guy in order to create a big enough treat for the nations to come together and accomplish his dream of a united peaceful world? Its a total asspull but Im not putting it past kishi to make madara a secret good guy all along like itachi.
That would be Twilight level writing so yeah…it could happen.
As much as i despise Bleach, i am always looking forward for some more strong villains. Which i think is done better than the heroes in this series. I need more Starrk, Halibel, Barragran, Nnoitra or Ulquiorra. They are all bad ass in their own way. Bazz B was giving me the same Espada vibe but he turned out to be another noisy riled up villain like Grimmjow (at least Grimmjow was entertaining).
And so far the good guys outweighs the bad guys in terms of number. I need Kubo to introduce more villains. Sternritter just doesn't cut it for me. And they are meant to fight Gotei 13 clearly. So who's gonna fight The Royal Guards? Hopefully Vasto Lorde makes their entrance soon. Hollows > Quincies
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Does it make me a bad person if I read through "serious" Naruto forums (with the assumption that Naruto trumps all other mangas), just for laughs and face palms?
My greatest fear is that Naruto fans come to this forum and watch us praise One Piece while laughing about it. I lie awake at night wondering if we're all just as blind as they are…..
Then I see shit like this and remember that there's no way we're all that fucking crazy.
As much as i despise Bleach, i am always looking forward for some more strong villains. Which i think is done better than the heroes in this series. I need more Starrk, Halibel, Barragran, Nnoitra or Ulquiorra. They are all bad ass in their own way. Bazz B was giving me the same Espada vibe but he turned out to be another noisy riled up villain like Grimmjow (at least Grimmjow was entertaining).
No, this is not what we need. What Kubo sucks at is making villains that are extremely broken only to nerf them for the heroes to defeat, either through the villains' stupidity or a heroic bullshit power up. I felt that the Espada had some potential but they were thrown away so early and Kubo tried to sneak in backstories every time one died to make us care about them or something. What we need is a villain that doesn't have a Kubo-esque OP power but wins through skills and smarts. A sort of "Jackie Chan environmental fighter" if you know what I mean.
And so far the good guys outweighs the bad guys in terms of number. I need Kubo to introduce more villains. Sternritter just doesn't cut it for me. And they are meant to fight Gotei 13 clearly. So who's gonna fight The Royal Guards? Hopefully Vasto Lorde makes their entrance soon. Hollows > Quincies
So 26+ uber nazis aren't good enough for you? If Kubo throws Aizen and/or the Fullbringers into the fray, I'm going to rage. There are more than enough villains already and if Kubo keeps up the one-on-ones, there should be enough for the royal guards. The Hollows were already made irrelevant by Bach anyway so why would they show up?
Kishi tried hard to make Sakura reach Karin status in these past couple chapters, and I think he succeeded.
As much as i despise Bleach, i am always looking forward for some more strong villains. Which i think is done better than the heroes in this series. I need more Starrk, Halibel, Barragran, Nnoitra or Ulquiorra. They are all bad ass in their own way. Bazz B was giving me the same Espada vibe but he turned out to be another noisy riled up villain like Grimmjow (at least Grimmjow was entertaining).
And so far the good guys outweighs the bad guys in terms of number. I need Kubo to introduce more villains. Sternritter just doesn't cut it for me. And they are meant to fight Gotei 13 clearly. So who's gonna fight The Royal Guards? Hopefully Vasto Lorde makes their entrance soon. Hollows > Quincies
Off the top of my head:
1- The bolded names are among the most disapointing villains in the manga. They got defeated with extreme ease. Then again, Ulquiorra gave us The Heart, so he's out too. That leaves Nnoitra as a somewhat decent villain.
2- The current villain group is overpopulated as hell. It's twice the size of the Dofla family. 26 freaking enemies. More villains? Oh hell no, no no NO please NO!
3- If I recall correctly, most Espadas already were Vasto Lordes. Yeah, the almighty, "Soul Society destroyers", overhyped and never properly introduced or defined Vasto Lordes were the likes of Barragan or Stark.
Off the top of my head:
1- The bolded names are among the most disapointing villains in the manga. They got defeated with extreme ease. Then again, Ulquiorra gave us The Heart, so he's out too. That leaves Nnoitra as a somewhat decent villain.
2- The current villain group is overpopulated as hell. It's twice the size of the Dofla family. 26 freaking enemies. More villains? Oh hell no, no no NO please NO!
3- If I recall correctly, most Espadas already were Vasto Lordes. Yeah, the almighty, "Soul Society destroyers", overhyped and never properly introduced or defined Vasto Lordes were the likes of Barragan or Stark.
No group of character were overhyped as much as the vizards .
Exactly, and now look what they are now.^^
The problem with the quincies is not how many they are, but with how they are fleshed out. When Kubo was doing the Arrancar arc, you could clearly see that he wanted to make each Espada unique and focused on their development. Even if they were trashed in their fights and didn't live up to the strength they are supposed to have, Kubo focused on developing each one of them and that's why they became such a popular group (obviously, this doesn't include the ugly ones).
The quincies? No. Nobody cares about them, they are "monsters of the week". Ok, I admit with them, Kubo is fixing something he did wrong with the Espada: he is always trying to make clear those guys prove to be as strong as Kubo says they are. But so what? What is the point in making enemies so strong if you completely forget to make them likable? They are a bunch of names thrown into ours faces to simply hold the plot back, not a single one of them adds anything to the story. They don't have any substance as individual characters, they don't have any kind of identity as a group, they are just wasting our time.
Also, making really strong enemies also become irrelevant when you know every time a good guy is defeated someone even stronger will make a flashy entrance and save him in the nick of time.
And to think this arc and the SR seemed so incredibly promising back in the time Quilge was fighting in Hueco Mundo and Byakuya was supposedly being killed in Soul Society. I really thought Bleach was going back to its tracks back then.
Kirge seems bizarrely out of place compared to the current Stern Ritters. Its like, in making him, Kubo used up all fucks to give about what makes a quincy a quincy.
Will agree that the Espada were ultimately more memorable than these mooks, but as you say, its a tradeoff: More developed and hyped characters with abysmal payoffs, vs completenon-entities with mercifully "short" panel time.
I just noticed this (bottom left)
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Naruto full color last chapter chapter, from digital Jump.
- Naruto: http://imgur.com/a/Z1gNO
Naruto full color last chapter chapter, from digital Jump.
- Naruto: http://imgur.com/a/Z1gNO
Why is the ground purple? Odd choice.
Well, doesn't make the backgrounds any more exciting.
