Madara only has himself to blame for letting Naruto power up into the Sage. Madara really shouldn't have wasted his time chasing TenTen around for no reason.
Naruto and Bleach IV- Sexy time
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@The:
Out of curiosity, what did I "beat you to"? I mean, theres no reason to hold back flak towards Bleach
I've been really lazy recently when it comes to Applied Logic-esque rants and stuff. Like I really want to get into the crap with Quinzis, zanpakutou, (Rukia's status too), but I can't. Hopefully I'll put up a new post soon.
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How many chapters would all this Nardo final battle bullshit take in a properly paced manga without artificial attempts to drag it out as much as possible? I'd say 30+ tops.
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@Purple:
You and Meta have to duke it out Highlander style now for the glory of ridiculously long posts about the intricacies of how Bleach is just so, so wrong.
I love this idea, although there's no way my rants should reach the size and detail of Daz's @The:
Whereupon MetaMario will discard his amiable demeanor, revealing himself as a loon who loves nothing more than thrill of destroying other posters credibility
"The Meta you knew never existed."
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Trying to imagine Meta as a smug Bleach villain.
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I prefer to think of it more as like Cavendish and Hakuba.
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Madara vs Aizen. Who will win?
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To be honest, that one filler episode about Kakashi's mask is one of the best to have come out of the Nardo franchise.
I think it was the 50 or the 100 anime episode, something like that. I was still watching the series back then and to this day I absolutely love this episode. Talk what you want, this episode was Rock Lee level of awesome.
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I... I wonder... Do people at Bleach Asylum or Naruto forums even see the flaws in their series? Like, people here can see that One Piece has some problems, that Oda draws most good looking females the same or that Fismen Island wasn't as great, but... do the talk about how long is the war in Naruto? How many illogical jumps are there in the plot of Bleach?
Or, even better, do they bash One Piece for some flaws there?
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They bash the artstyle, that's something!
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I can't speak for Naruto Forums, but I have seen people on other forums (Animesuki, Toonzone) who still like the series, but point out flaws as they see them.
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@Aru:
I… I wonder... Do people at Bleach Asylum or Naruto forums even see the flaws in their series? Like, people here can see that One Piece has some problems, that Oda draws most good looking females the same or that Fismen Island wasn't as great, but... do the talk about how long is the war in Naruto? How many illogical jumps are there in the plot of Bleach?
Or, even better, do they bash One Piece for some flaws there?
Actually, NarutoForums just gives me the impression of people who don't give a fuck anymore.
Bleach Asylum too, but to a lesser extent.
There is still stupidity there, though.
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Just looked at the One Piece thread on Bleach Asylum. A guy wrote what he liked and dislikes about OP.
Apparently he thinks the series lacks a one major villain, like Aizen. And the character designs are too childish for adults to enjoy. But his biggest gripe is… how slow the story goes! He says the series drags as hell, that there are little important characters and Oda spends too much time building characters that aren't important later or something.
A funny thing, looking into the mind of a Bleach fan and what he thinks about Oda's series.
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@Aru:
Just looked at the One Piece thread on Bleach Asylum. A guy wrote what he liked and dislikes about OP.
Apparently he thinks the series lacks a one major villain, like Aizen
ZEHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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@Aru:
Just looked at the One Piece thread on Bleach Asylum. A guy wrote what he liked and dislikes about OP.
Apparently he thinks the series lacks a one major villain, like Aizen. And the character designs are too childish for adults to enjoy. But his biggest gripe is… how slow the story goes! He says the series drags as hell, that there are little important characters and Oda spends too much time building characters that aren't important later or something.
A funny thing, looking into the mind of a Bleach fan and what he thinks about Oda's series.
The best part is Aizen wasn't even the final villain
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@Cyan:
ZEHAHAHAHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Shhhh… Don't ruin the fun for'em, Marshall.
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Good thing that Bleach never drags and always focuses equally on every single character ever introduced in an arc.
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Well here are some opinions from fans that I found on why they love the series'.
Bleach
! "The anime died from filler arcs but I still really love the manga~ Maybe it's the characters but I love how the emotional stuff are mainly kept close to reality (like, nothing too dramatic) and it's full of twists and turns that you wouldn't expect~ Ichigo might be a little too powerful, but he works for it so it doesn't bother me much."
! Alright so the emotional stuff is excellent, as well as Kubo's unrivaled talent to keep things "close to reality".! "Bleach is far from something 'Original', or 'new' but it's a master piece of simplicity, and the art is good"
! That actually summed up what Kubo's is attempting to do with Bleach at least.
Naruto! "Out of the other manga/anime Naruto is My ultimate favorite not just because of the cool ninja techniques and how awesomely cool it is to walk on water, but its because of Naruto's personality the way how he doesn't give up and that he works hard for others to appreciate him not for money or fame and that is the most pure thing that I love about Naruto!"
! Cool ninjas!!! Nardo's obviously a Christ symbol cuz da water walking! So deep Kishi, so deep… please keep raising the tension without restraint! Naruto will never give up, this war will go on forever!!!! BELIEVE IT!!!! -
Simple minds want simple things, I guess
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found this it made me laugh. the face!!!
http://i.imgur.com/uJuNXV7.jpgThat actually looks okay, it's not smug or bored, or ridiculously zoomed in.
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"Kubo's unrivaled talent to keep things close to reality"
Does the person mean to say that Kubo's lolscience is grounded, which it isn't, or that characters are like functional human beings and act and behave and such, which they aren't and which they don't ?
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"Kubo's unrivaled talent to keep things close to reality"
Does the person mean to say that Kubo's lolscience is grounded, which it isn't, or that characters are like functional human beings and act and behave and such, which they aren't and which they don't ?
Well he did say "Mainly nothing too dramatic."
Presumably his or her viewpoint of reality is dull as all hell.
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@Aru:
Just looked at the One Piece thread on Bleach Asylum. A guy wrote what he liked and dislikes about OP.
Apparently he thinks the series lacks a one major villain, like Aizen. And the character designs are too childish for adults to enjoy. But his biggest gripe is… how slow the story goes! He says the series drags as hell, that there are little important characters and Oda spends too much time building characters that aren't important later or something.
A funny thing, looking into the mind of a Bleach fan and what he thinks about Oda's series.
I guess adults enjoy plot holes and ass pulls a lot more than a detailed world that seems to live on it's own.
The world building is exactly what makes OP so epic compared to either Naruto or Bleach but I guess having too many characters and details is what might turn a part of the audience away. A small part.
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I guess adults enjoy plot holes and ass pulls a lot more than a detailed world that seems to live on it's own.
The world building is exactly what makes OP so epic compared to either Naruto or Bleach but I guess having too many characters and details is what might turn a part of the audience away. A small part.
That is actually a valid point. Not the too many details part, but the lack of characterization for certain characters due to their sheer numbers. Sometimes even Oda has to focus on certain characters in favor of others in order to keep the story running. And that- their favorite character/s not getting enough time in the spotlight- might be what puts some fans off.
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And that- their favorite character/s not getting enough time in the spotlight- might be what puts some fans off.
Good thing that Bleach never fails to give spotlight to characters like Chad and Orihime.
Remember that one time when Chad was wrestling the floor? That was almost as dramatic as that other time when he tackled that wall!
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And even if Oda does deprive some characters from the limelight, he, unlike Kubo and Kishi, has the decency not to build up as if he's going to and give fuck all.
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Good thing that Bleach never fails to give spotlight to characters like Chad and Orihime.
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And even if Oda does deprive some characters from the limelight, he, unlike Kubo and Kishi, has the decency not to build up as if he's going to and give fuck all.
I don't follow Bleach, but even I had to chuckle at that line.
Regarding your second post– I'm well aware of that. I was just trying to explain skeptic fans' reasons for not being able to enjoy OP. But it seems it boils down to the story being too complex in its world-building for them.
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Regarding your second post– I'm well aware of that. I was just trying to explain skeptic fans' reasons for not being able to enjoy OP. But it seems it boils down to the story being too complex in its world-building for them.
When it comes to shafted characters, most common arguement I've heard from Nardoblergh defenders so far is "WHY WOULD YOU CARE ANYWAY, KONOHA 11/CHAD+ORIHIME SUCK AND THEY'RE LAME. IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAT WE GET TO FOCUS ON TRULY COMPELLING CHARACTERS LIKE BORING OVERPOWERED EYEBALL ZOMBIE DUDE #11134/NaNaNa Najahkoop"
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Quick, its time to get our predictions out before the chapters/spoilers surface!
Bleach 569
Byakuya: gives Rukia a backhanded sorta compliment
Äs Nödt: ABOBLOBLOOOO SENBONSAKURA
Byakuya: Filthy plebe, you could never use my bankai, scoff scoff
Äs Nödt: weird eyeball/fear powers!
Byakuya: Which I can resist because contrived reason. Now face the wrath of my deep bond with my sword, which I have literally not completely understood until yesterday! Go, SenbonSakurabula! -
@The:
Quick, its time to get our predictions out before the chapters/spoilers surface!
Bleach 569
Byakuya: gives Rukia a backhanded sorta compliment
Äs Nödt: ABOBLOBLOOOO SENBONSAKURA
Byakuya: Filthy plebe, you could never use my bankai, scoff scoff
Äs Nödt: weird eyeball/fear powers!
Byakuya: Which I can resist because contrived reason. Now face the wrath of my deep bond with my sword, which I have literally not completely understood until yesterday! Go, SenbonSakurabula!You forgot the sad Quincy backstory!
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You forgot the sad Quincy backstory!
He was afraid of his boss. The End.
I can't wait for NaNaNa's backstory.
@The:
Quick, its time to get our predictions out before the chapters/spoilers surface!
Bleach 569
Byakuya: gives Rukia a backhanded sorta compliment
Äs Nödt: ABOBLOBLOOOO SENBONSAKURA
Byakuya: Filthy plebe, you could never use my bankai, scoff scoff
Äs Nödt: weird eyeball/fear powers!
Byakuya: Which I can resist because contrived reason. Now face the wrath of my deep bond with my sword, which I have literally not completely understood until yesterday! Go, SenbonSakurabula!How much do you wanna bet that this reason is going to be "Rukia is strong/has friends. I don't have to fear for her safety anymore."?
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He was afraid of his boss. The End.
I can't wait for NaNaNa's backstory.
Will it be as deep and meaningful as Kubo's other backstories?
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Of course, there has to be introspect of how As Nodt has discovered one more person to fear, aside of big boss.
Why does Byakuya have to fight these freaks? Last real fight he had was with Ichigo. Now, he fought this fear eyeball guy, before that it was a giant caterpillar, before that it was a memory altering dude and before that it was a control eyeball pumpkin. If only I didn't know all of their names.
I'd really like him to deal with this guy as fast as possible, without even going Bankai. I think there are better opponents for that.
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Will it be as deep and meaningful as Kubo's other backstories?
"Once there was an Ugly Quincy. He was so ugly, that everybody died! The End."
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Nothing will ever top the sad tale of NotBradley.
"I love my watch. It is my good luck charm."
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"Watch, Kill my wife!""Oh noes, I lost an eye"
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I can't wait for NaNaNa's backstory.
My money is on fear of Dentists
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@The:
Nothing will ever top the sad tale of NotBradley.
"I love my watch. It is my good luck charm."
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"Watch, Kill my wife!""Oh noes, I lost an eye"
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My money is on fear of Dentists
Well that's Giriko in a nutshell.
"So I have this power which allows me to force people to do things I determine, within a time limit that I also determine, and if they fail they will die."
"So allow me to turn into a hulk monster and try to cave in your skull."
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I'm going to try to fit this post in before the new chapter comes out.
Byakuya, like Renji, will unveil his new bankai.!
How will he defeat As Nodt with this?
"You say you fear nothing other than YHWH's wrath?"
"That's right"
"You forgot one fear, the fear the permeates the cell of every single male that has ever lived…"
"Nonsense, what could I fear more than his majesty's wrath?"
"The fear of... eating a banana in public whilst making eye contact with another male"
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He was afraid of his boss. The End.
I can't wait for NaNaNa's backstory.
I'm really curious if it's gonna end up being horribly, embarassingly racist like what happened with Zommari. Except I liked what happened with Zommari because that was Kubo being ridiculous as heck, even if Byakuya was as endearing as ever.
But since I have no hope for any of the Quincies to be even remotely entertaining since Kubo managed to drive even Mask into the ground, so I'm not gonna hold my breath.
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There is always Quincy Colonel Sanders.
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There is always Quincy Colonel Sanders.
Yeah but he doesn't even have a name yet. Kinda worried Kubo might kill him off offscreen like that one Sternritter with the fangs ? Kinda would have preffered to see that guy then have Bazz "I'm really intimidating and imposing, no, really" B.
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By my count, the remaining quinzies are:
- Yahoo Bach
- Ishida
- Quincy Aizen
- Quincy Fabio
- Mohawk Quincy Renji
- Quincy colonel Sanders
- Quincy bitch girl 2
- Quincy bitch girl 3
- Quincy bitch girl 4
- Quincy loli bitch girl
- Nanananananana hey Jude
- Quincy cap guy
- Old tanned quincy
- whatever quincies Kubo needs to fill out the alphabet. I'm sure theres still a few letters left over. And you just know theres gonna be V and W…maybe even some umlaut letters.
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@The:
Nothing will ever top the sad tale of NotBradley.
"I love my watch. It is my good luck charm."
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"Watch, Kill my wife!""Oh noes, I lost an eye"
I'm going to try to fit this post in before the new chapter comes out.
Byakuya, like Renji, will unveil his new bankai.! http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Bleach+Bananakai.+Bananakai+Peel+Senbonbanana+potassium+overdose_c69e22_4856205.png
How will he defeat As Nodt with this?
"You say you fear nothing other than YHWH's wrath?"
"That's right"
"You forgot one fear, the fear the permeates the cell of every single male that has ever lived…"
"Nonsense, what could I fear more than his majesty's wrath?"
"The fear of... eating a banana in public whilst making eye contact with another male"
"NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"Well done, you two…
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"Oh, you have defeated sternritter O? Well, as sternritter Ö, I'm twice as powerful!"
Yeah, I could see that happening.
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@The:
By my count, the remaining quinzies are:
- Yahoo Bach
- Ishida
- Quincy Aizen
- Quincy Fabio
- Mohawk Quincy Renji
- Quincy colonel Sanders
**- Quincy bitch girl 2 - Quincy bitch girl 3
- Quincy bitch girl 4**
- Nanananananana hey Jude
- Quincy cap guy
- Old tanned quincy
- whatever quincies Kubo needs to fill out the alphabet. I'm sure theres still a few letters left over. And you just know theres gonna be V and W…maybe even some umlaut letters.
There's 5 of them, counting Bambi.
I personally like how Kubo showcases them as a group because they're so uninteresting individually.
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Bananakai….God I wish I didn't read that on the bus. Grinning like an idiot now.
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There's 5 of them, counting Bambi.
http://i3.mangapanda.com/bleach/544/bleach-4272067.jpg
I personally like how Kubo showcases them as a group because they're so uninteresting individually.
Thanks, list is now updated for accuracy.
Also, according to bleach wiki theres' only 3 Sternritters with undisclosed letters, and 7 letters (including W) missing from the overall lineup.
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I guess adults enjoy plot holes and ass pulls a lot more than a detailed world that seems to live on it's own.
The world building is exactly what makes OP so epic compared to either Naruto or Bleach but I guess having too many characters and details is what might turn a part of the audience away. A small part.
When it comes to shafted characters, most common arguement I've heard from Nardoblergh defenders so far is "WHY WOULD YOU CARE ANYWAY, KONOHA 11/CHAD+ORIHIME SUCK AND THEY'RE LAME. IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAT WE GET TO FOCUS ON TRULY COMPELLING CHARACTERS LIKE BORING OVERPOWERED EYEBALL ZOMBIE DUDE #11134/NaNaNa Najahkoop"
Simple minds want simple things, I guess
I get that you guys don't like Bleach or Naruto, but holy fuck do you sound like snobby cunts.
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@God:
I get that you guys don't like Bleach or Naruto, but holy fuck do you sound like snobby cunts.
Really? Just calling it as I see it.
Started reading them all at about the same time. Might just be a personal perference, but there's no person alive that could convince me they are content with Naruto or Bleach.
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Really? Just calling it as I see it.
Started reading them all at about the same time. Might just be a personal perference, but there's no person alive that could convince me they are content with Naruto or Bleach.
Didn't meant to quote you, but some of the comments like Nobodyman's just scream "UR DUMB BECUZ U READ DIS MANGA."
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@God:
Didn't meant to quote you, but some of the comments like Nobodyman's just scream "UR DUMB BECUZ U READ DIS MANGA."
I'd say "you are dumb if you can't see the flaws in this manga". Personal enjoyment is a completely different matter than discussing and analyzing the quality of the series under a critical viewpoint.