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      Must we forget the intense conversation between, Luffy and Big Mam over the Den Den Mushi on Fish-Men Island?
      I'm sure that, Luffy and his crew haven't been thinking about it since they left, Fish-Men island.
      They moved on from 1 Arc to the 2nd and now they're on their 3rd where big things are now happening.

      They formed an alliance with, Trafalgar Law who's main target among the 4 Emperors is, Kaido.

      This is where I would rank the 4 Emperors in my opinion. 1 > 4

      4. Big Mam
      3. Kaido
      2. Shanks
      1. Teach

      I believe, Teach will be the last and the strongest.

      I don't see, Kaido being taken down first even though he's the main target.

      There's something that, Law doesn't know and it's a bad situation he's unaware of but the Straw-Hat pirates are.
      It's the threat that, Big Mam made against them. The news has spread that the SH's are in the New World so surely, Big Mam now knows this.
      Do you think that maybe she plans to send out her underlings to attack them? If she does, Law will see that he's caught up in the trouble that, Luffy started as well. This is something unexpected for him. I don't think that, Kaido will be taken down anytime soon. I think that both, Kaido and Big Mam will begin to send out underlings to take them down. That may also mean, Kaido's 500 Beast, the Artificial zoan types.
      Being targeted by 2 Emperors at once. Epic?
      Of course the SH's can't just go straight for the 3rd strongest in my opinion. Due to, Kaido's 500 beast it may even make him more fearsome than, Shanks making him 2nd to, Teach. And being one of the 4 Emperors he must have plenty of allies under him. He can send them to attack as well.

      So I'm thinking they will take down, Big Mam first! There's a problem with that though. Kid And his allies are targeting her as well judging from the fact that he's attacking her allies ships. Not sure what to think of that though.

      How will, Trafalgar Law react to this?
      I also can't help but think that, Caribou has some connection to, Kaido. On Fish-Men island he said "That person". You all remember, right? When he tried to kidnap, Shirahoshi, Luffy sensed him with haki and deduced that he was some kind of beast. That's odd, right? In the cover pages he's running into, Scotch who works for, Kaido. What if, Caribou isn't human?

      I also believe that even though, Don Chinjao is a former pirate, he has now joined, Kaido and became one of his 500 Beast who ate the Artifical Zoan type Devil fruit. The same goes for, Boo And Sai his two grandchildren. The hint I get is from the numbers tatted on each of them. Strange that they each have different numbers on them right? Reminds me of the Espada from bleach. Scotch, who works for, Kaido also has a different number on his body as well. Of course there's more to it. Maybe, Kaido sent his underlings to, Doflamingo because of what's been happening.

      Anyways, after, Doflamingo gets defeated what happens next?

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      What do you guys think? Share your thoughts…

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        Nice catch with the numbers there, you could very well be right. If they're in the group C battle about to start we're moee likely to find out sooner than later.

        Somehow I don't think the Straw Hats are going to face Big Mom. We know that her big tea party is coming up in… maybe three days of OP time. I think that the Kidd alliance is going to strike then and successfully take her down. Maybe the theory of the whole Doflamingo meta-plot against the Yonkou will have weakened her but I think that an exploding tamate box will play a key part as well.

        Then Luffy is going to find out about it and, being the righteous guy he is, try to set things right. Then we're finally going to see them use Lola's vivre card from so long ago.

        But this is a long range theory and I don't think it'll happen until after he's faced Doflamingo and Kaido.

        I have no problems with this theory being wrong because that just means Oda has surprised me and that's one of the continuing joys of One Piece.

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          No way in hell Big Mam is getting injured by that bomb. It will just annoy her that they dared to send a bomb to her, nothing more.

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            Don't think it would injure her, just saying it might distract her enough that Kidd, Hawkins & Apoo to succeed. If Luffy hears that it'd be enough for his sense of fair play to kick in.

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              This is what I have imagined might happen:

              In three days of OP time, the tea party and the bomb will happen. This aggravates Big Mom and she gets angry with Luffy. However, she has no idea where he is, and with the shadow of the Kidd Alliance looming over her she decides it is too risky to send her crew out for too long to look for the Straw Hats, as she knows she would have to send a lot to be able to take down a 400 mill bounty as well. So she decides to send Bobbin out to Fishman Island to destroy it anyways. That way, she will bring Luffy to her, as she knows it would greatly anger him.

              When Bobbin arrives in Fishman Island, however, Jinbei is there trying to protect it. Bobbin and Jinbei have a little (offscreen) fight and Jinbei puts up a good effort but gets…. well.... creamed. As Bobbin tried walking past a defeated Jinbei to start blowing stuff up, Jinbei grabs Bobbin's ankle and asks him to take him and spare Fishman Island. Bobbin is interested and takes Jinbei hostage instead of going through the hassle of destroying the entire island.

              Some time afterwards (maybe before Kaidou is taken out or after Kaidou is taken out, I'm not going to discuss that), Luffy reads in the papers that Jinbei was captured by Big Mom. So he decides to immediately focus his attention on her instead.

              Some of you might not believe this theory or even say that it makes no sense. I just made it because I don't think the StrawHeart alliance will be taking down two Yonkou, but I'm not sure if Luffy can beat her by himself just yet. Partly it would really suit that battle if he did it alone, as he wants to claim it his territory. On the other hand it would be really fitting for Jinbei to join the fight as well. That's why I thought of this as a "solution" to how Jinbei would get added into the picture, instead of just randomly showing up.

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                This is what I have imagined might happen:
                In three days of OP time, the tea party and the bomb will happen. This aggravates Big Mom and she gets angry with Luffy. However, she has no idea where he is, and with the shadow of the Kidd Alliance looming over her she decides it is too risky to send her crew out for too long to look for the Straw Hats, as she knows she would have to send a lot to be able to take down a 400 mill bounty as well. So she decides to send Bobbin out to Fishman Island to destroy it anyways. That way, she will bring Luffy to her, as she knows it would greatly anger him.
                When Bobbin arrives in Fishman Island, however, Jinbei is there trying to protect it. Bobbin and Jinbei have a little (offscreen) fight and Jinbei puts up a good effort but gets…. well.... creamed. As Bobbin tried walking past a defeated Jinbei to start blowing stuff up, Jinbei grabs Bobbin's ankle and asks him to take him and spare Fishman Island. Bobbin is interested and takes Jinbei hostage instead of going through the hassle of destroying the entire island.
                Some time afterwards (maybe before Kaidou is taken out or after Kaidou is taken out, I'm not going to discuss that), Luffy reads in the papers that Jinbei was captured by Big Mom. So he decides to immediately focus his attention on her instead.
                Some of you might not believe this theory or even say that it makes no sense. I just made it because I don't think the StrawHeart alliance will be taking down two Yonkou, but I'm not sure if Luffy can beat her by himself just yet. Partly it would really suit that battle if he did it alone, as he wants to claim it his territory. On the other hand it would be really fitting for Jinbei to join the fight as well. That's why I thought of this as a "solution" to how Jinbei would get added into the picture, instead of just randomly showing up.

                First of all, the Tea Party is due in two days. Secondly, Jinbei is on his way to Big Mam already. So why would he be in FI when Bobbins arrives there? Jinbei is likely to be taken hostage when he gets there, anyway.

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                  4. Big Mam
                  3. Kaido
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                  Based on what ? Nothing indicates that Big Mom is the weakest.

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                    First of all, the Tea Party is due in two days. Secondly, Jinbei is on his way to Big Mam already. So why would he be in FI when Bobbins arrives there? Jinbei is likely to be taken hostage when he gets there, anyway.

                    How can you tell it's in two days? Only one night passed after there were 4 days left.
                    Secondly, how do you know Jinbei is going there already? Is he stupid or what?

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                      Based on what ? Nothing indicates that Big Mom is the weakest.

                      Based on my opinion like I said you, Low Class.
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                      I can't imagine, Kid or anyone taking down the 4 Emperors whom, Luffy is supposed to take down to become king of the pirates. If he doesn't do so then that means he would have to kick, Kids ass. At the same time, I doubt, Kid is anywhere near the level enough to fight her. He's at a level where, Luffy could have possibly been if here didn't train for 2 years. If, Luffy had not trained for 2 years I'd say his bounty could only be in the 400's.
                      After defeating, Doflamingo he will most likely have surpassed his brother and gain a bounty of 550Mil+ And I believe that a Yonko is quite far above that. Kid is doing a smart thing which is taking down her allies. He's weakening her forces. With his alliance he can do this much faster.

                      We don't know how strong, Bobbin is or how big his bounty or. All we know of is, Pekoms and judging from his punch on, Caribou he's not very strong. Actually, Luffy before the TS could definitely do a stronger punch 😉
                      And as for the Tamate box, I don't think it will do much unless it's a super bomb lol. It
                      s probably a small one. It may just only piss, Big Mam off. If her Tea party is indeed within 2-3 days time, that means opening the Tamate box will piss her off and on the 3rd-4th day she may send out Allies to attack, Luffy. We may get one more arc before this.

                      I enjoy the thought of, Jinbe being captured and then, Luffy having to save him which is something Luffy has done for all his crew mates. Jinbe, is next.

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                        Jinbe said he was going to wrap things up with the Fishman Pirates and Big Mom but didn't give a timeframe. If he was planning on being there for her tea party he probably would have mentioned it, possibly something about attempting to do something about the tamate box when he talked it over with Neptune.

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                          Jinbe said he was going to wrap things up with the Fishman Pirates and Big Mom but didn't give a timeframe. If he was planning on being there for her tea party he probably would have mentioned it, possibly something about attempting to do something about the tamate box when he talked it over with Neptune.

                          Yeah. If, Neptune did indeed tell him about it I'm sure he will head there to try and prevent the box from being opened. At the same time he could be invited to the Tea party.
                          Him telling her that he wants to break his promise/Business will piss her off. Remember that she views Business deals as promise which is why she wanted to destroy Fish-Men island. Jinbe, breaking his pact/promise will piss her off and then telling her that he wants to join, Luffy's crew will make her furious. He's her ENEMY. Jinbe, is in big trouble either way I see it. I'm sure that, Sanji and Zoro will have surpassed him by the time the Big Mam arc comes. Kid, may also join up in it but, Luffy always beats the bosses and Big Mam is an important boss who must be defeated by, Luffy's hands alone.

                          Just like how she wanted to destroy the Island she will want to destroy, Jinbe. Luffy, already wants to Kick her ass all over the new world as he said. This is more reason for him to do so.

                          Also, if Bobin were to actually capture, Jinbe at Fish-Men island then that means he may also be there to destroy it and don't forget that, Luffy is supposed to destroy it in the future.

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                            Somebody in a straw hat is anyway. Note how Oda slipped in that little bit with the kid wanting a hat like Luffy and Jinbe promising to get a shipment of them for FI?

                            Personally I do think that Luffy will have to destroy FI, but that's just because of it's inherent nature and not malice.

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                              How can you tell it's in two days? Only one night passed after there were 4 days left.
                              Secondly, how do you know Jinbei is going there already? Is he stupid or what?

                              Because they're already on their second day since Tamago said that the Tea Party is due in four days. It's been half a day, in fact.
                              And like others already said, Jinbei is going to settle things with Big Mam. He already left FI, so he's obviously going to talk to her and not some other place. It may be a stupid move, sure, but he has no choice. Don't forget that his entire crew is with Big Mam right now. He won't just leave them with her and break their relationship over the denden mushi, right?

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                                Not that it means much to any argument either way but Straw Hat Chan is right, it's 2 days until the tea party. At least 2 anyway until Oda say's other wise.

                                One day passed while on Fishman Island, Camey was given the day off during the main events but was back to work during a different day on the final pages of Fishman Island and then another day passed after Law gave Doflamingo his demands to resign.

                                I don't have much to say on the topic other than the thought of 2 Emperors getting some focus roughly at the same time really intrigues me. I mean it really seemed like Big Mom would be the first Emperor to be tackled without a doubt, then we get a curve ball from Law. I just can't envision Jinbe being left out of a full on Emperor battle with Kaido, though that problem can be easily solved. It's just the 4 day time period given with the Tea Party seems like a count down to the meeting of Big Mom and the Straw Hat's, and I can't see Kaido being taken care of within 2 days considering who they are up against at this very moment and all the travel time needed gathering up Law's men.

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                                  There's a 60% chance that Jimbi arrive at the tea party since he's already in the new world and he said that will have to take care of this situation as soon as possible, Jimbi is a smart guy and he already know that Luffy challenged Big Mama in order to make Fishman Island as his turf, so He won't be telling her that he will join Strawhat Luffy's crew after he ditch her for good also they have the tea party but it doesn't mean that they'll open the box in the tea party but after it, in the mean time the KAH alliance has destroyed a ship from Big Mama's crew, which it can be red herring from Oda's part to make us think that they're in fact targetting Big Mama and no somebody else.

                                  We have only seen Pekoms and Tamago once and Pekoms punch Caribu in a flash, so I don't see where the he's not strong comes from but Bobbin's in the other hand seems like in a whole new league even though we haven't seen nothing from him, just his sword which can very well be a notirious/famous one also Big Mama crew seems to be separated in groups just like DD's group.

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                                    ^^I wouldn't say that the two days until the Tea Party is a countdown to Big Mam's meeting with the Strawhats… after all, the Strawhats aren't heading there. It's just a different occasion in which we'll be introduced to Big Mam and her forces, likely where Jinbei gets taken hostage and when Big Mam gets really mad at Luffy because of the bomb.

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                                      ^^I wouldn't say that the two days until the Tea Party is a countdown to Big Mam's meeting with the Strawhats… after all, the Strawhats aren't heading there. It's just a different occasion in which we'll be introduced to Big Mam and her forces, likely where Jinbei gets taken hostage and when Big Mam gets really mad at Luffy because of the bomb.

                                      You're right. Before Law it certainly appeared that way as 4 days in One Piece time could be hundreds of chapters.

                                      Well I just hope these last 2 days are count downs to Jinbe actively seeking out the Straw Hat's if he doesn't end up getting captured or something.

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                                        Somebody in a straw hat is anyway. Note how Oda slipped in that little bit with the kid wanting a hat like Luffy and Jinbe promising to get a shipment of them for FI?

                                        Personally I do think that Luffy will have to destroy FI, but that's just because of it's inherent nature and not malice.

                                        I don't think you've thought it through. I'm sure this will be done by the hands of Luffy and Shirahoshi. This is a must if the Fish-Men are to move to the surface. I'm sure that along with, Fish-Men island it will also be the Red Line as well as Mariejoas. This means he will be in the middle of taking down the WG. I doubt, Luffy would do it because of his nature.

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                                          Well we have 2 alliances that of Luffy/Law and then we have Kidd/Apoo/Hawkins.

                                          Kidd is a supernova who has a slightly higher bounty than Luffy(probably because he KILLS people). Who knows maybe Kidd's crew will take down Big Mom and Law's group take down Kaido.

                                          To make Luffy have to take down every major villain would be an insult to the other great supernovas.

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                                            Based on my opinion like I said you, Low Class.

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                                              Based on my opinion like I said you, Low Class.
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                                              Um, he was simply asking for the reasoning behind your ranking?

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                                                Um, he was simply asking for the reasoning behind your ranking?

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                                                  I don't think you've thought it through. I'm sure this will be done by the hands of Luffy and Shirahoshi. This is a must if the Fish-Men are to move to the surface. I'm sure that along with, Fish-Men island it will also be the Red Line as well as Mariejoas. This means he will be in the middle of taking down the WG. I doubt, Luffy would do it because of his nature.

                                                  What I said was Oda has given either himself an out or us a red herring with shipping straw hats to FI.

                                                  I do think he will destroy FI but not directly. It will be destroyed because of it's own intrinsic nature and, yes, it's relationship with Marejois and the redline are part of that. But it's almost certainly going to be years before we see it.

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                                                    So i think it's safe to say that most everyone who reads this thread will focus on the arbitrary rankings

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                                                      Well we have 2 alliances that of Luffy/Law and then we have Kidd/Apoo/Hawkins.

                                                      Kidd is a supernova who has a slightly higher bounty than Luffy(probably because he KILLS people). Who knows maybe Kidd's crew will take down Big Mom and Law's group take down Kaido.

                                                      To make Luffy have to take down every major villain would be an insult to the other great supernovas.

                                                      Luffy has said he wants to beat all four of them. So the Kidd/Hawkins/Apoo alliance may assist him with Kaido or Big Mom but Luffy will be the one to take them both down.

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                                                        Luffy has said he wants to beat all four of them. So the Kidd/Hawkins/Apoo alliance may assist him with Kaido or Big Mom but Luffy will be the one to take them both down.

                                                        Luffy said that he won't let Ace die and where is Ace right now…. DEAD

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                                                          Based on my opinion like I said you, Low Class.
                                                          If you don't have anything useful to say then keep your virtual mouth closed, all that comes out is spam.

                                                          Just lol.

                                                          Since a good part of your opening post is based on that arbitrary ranking :

                                                          I don't see, Kaido being taken down first even though he's the main target.

                                                          Of course the SH's can't just go straight for the 3rd strongest in my opinion.

                                                          I just thought it was a good idea to ask you where it comes from before judging its validy. Turns out your only answer is one of the most childish form of "this is my opinion shut up" I have ever seen.
                                                          For now, we have no reason to believe any on those character are stronger than another (with the only exception of Blackbeard since he's a candidate for the final villain), so I don't see how it is problematic that Kaidou is defeated before Big Mom.

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                                                            Luffy said that he won't let Ace die and where is Ace right now…. DEAD

                                                            Those are completely different. The whole point of Luffy failing to save Ace was so that he would become stronger. And he is stronger now. He may still mess up from time to time now but he will live to up these big claims. Otherwise, that'd just be shit writing. Oda put in Luffy saying that so the audience would know that he won't fight Kaido while Kidd's alliance battles Big Mom. Now we know Luffy intends to beat both of them.

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                                                              Those are completely different. The whole point of Luffy failing to save Ace was so that he would become stronger. And he is stronger now. He may still mess up from time to time now but he will live to up these big claims. Otherwise, that'd just be shit writing. Oda put in Luffy saying that so the audience would know that he won't fight Kaido while Kidd's alliance battles Big Mom. Now we know Luffy intends to beat both of them.

                                                              You know whats bad writing? Making the SHs defeat all of them that's bad writing

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                                                                You know whats bad writing? Making the SHs defeat all of them that's bad writing

                                                                Well, to be fair, I don't think Luffy will ever beat Shanks.

                                                                But no, not at all. Luffy wants to be Pirate King and defeating all these Emperors will set him apart from the other rookies. Law, Kidd, Apoo, and Hawkins will receive publicity for their involvement in taking them down but at the end of the day it's Luffy that stands on top.

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                                                                  Luffy doesn't need to defeat all Emperor to get famous. Defeating only one is already an huge accomplishment (the WG needed all their admirals + the Shichibukai to defeat ONE yonkou) that is worthy of the title of Pirate King. Defeating four is just insane. Maybe it will happen, but it's not a necessity.

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                                                                    Luffy plans on taking down all of the Emperors. Him failing to do that would provide nothing for the story (with the exception of someone killing Shanks.) It'd just be strange to read back on Chapter 696 if Kidd gets to Big Mom. It makes Luffy look incompetent. Oda chose to end Luffy's claim on a cliffhanger.

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                                                                      The point is that Luffy is ambitious and confident. If he doesn't get to fight Big Mom because Kid already did it for him, it doesn't make him incompetent, just unlucky. I'd agree it would be anticlimatic though, since most people expect a full-fledged Big Mom arc after or before Kaidou.

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                                                                        His beef with Big Mom was established early on Fishman Island for a reason. She has territory that he wants and is the one thing stopping Jimbe from joining. It wouldn't feel right if Kidd beat her and resolved all Luffy's problems for him. Luffy needs to beat her if he wants to have Fishman Island and Jimbe on his crew.

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                                                                          Well, to be fair, I don't think Luffy will ever beat Shanks.

                                                                          But no, not at all. Luffy wants to be Pirate King and defeating all these Emperors will set him apart from the other rookies. Law, Kidd, Apoo, and Hawkins will receive publicity for their involvement in taking them down but at the end of the day it's Luffy that stands on top.

                                                                          Luffy doesn't need to beat all four of them to become Pirate King, set him apart of all those rookies in which he's gonna have to fight Kid and who knows If Oda place another one in his way, that's when Luffy/SHs will be apart from them, Oda won't introduce a character like kid just to place him aside, helping to accomplish his goals, when Kid himself is after the One Piece.

                                                                          Plot Twist: KAH are not targeting Big Mama but Kaido instead and will take the lead before the SH realize what's going :Plot Twist

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                                                                            OP, you high class being, let me contribute something useful by helping you understand English grammar.

                                                                            http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/commas.asp

                                                                            I doubt that you'll get any of it, though. :3

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                                                                              Luffy doesn't need to beat all four of them to become Pirate King, set him apart of all those rookies in which he's gonna have to fight Kid and who knows If Oda place another one in his way, that's when Luffy/SHs will be apart from them, Oda won't introduce a character like kid just to place him aside, helping to accomplish his goals, when Kid himself is after the One Piece.

                                                                              Plot Twist: KAH are not targeting Big Mama but Kaido instead and will take the lead before the SH realize what's going :Plot Twist

                                                                              I'm not saying Kid will be an ally like Paulie or Hachi. His involvement will be similar to Law's and his role will be crucial in taking down one of the Emperor's. However, Luffy is the main character and because of his actions, he's going to be part of the upcoming battles with both Kaido and Big Mom. Since when has Luffy fought the 2nd strongest guy and let someone else take the big bad? Never.

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                                                                                The problem with KAH and Law/Luffy joining alliances to take down a Yonko would be that from the looks of it there won't be many worthy opponents for every character(Zoro,Killer,Sanji,etc) the only fix would be if Yonko have strong allies just like WB had.

                                                                                What concerns me the most is who of the three main one will "defeat" the Yonko, if all 3 fight the 1 Yonko than that ain't saying much about their power.

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                                                                                  We haven't even scratched the surface with how many people are in Big Mom or Kaido's forces. Whitebeard had 16 strong commanders under him so it wouldn't be a stretch if either of them had that many capable fighters. Not everyone needs to fight anyway, we haven't had an arc since Alabasta where every single Straw Hat defeated an enemy.

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                                                                                    Must we forget the intense conversation between, Luffy and Big Mam over the Den Den Mushi on Fish-Men Island?
                                                                                    I'm sure that, Luffy and his crew haven't been thinking about it since they left, Fish-Men island.
                                                                                    They moved on from 1 Arc to the 2nd and now they're on their 3rd where big things are now happening.

                                                                                    They formed an alliance with, Trafalgar Law who's main target among the 4 Emperors is, Kaido.

                                                                                    This is where I would rank the 4 Emperors in my opinion. 1 > 4

                                                                                    4. Big Mam
                                                                                    3. Kaido
                                                                                    2. Shanks
                                                                                    1. Teach

                                                                                    I believe, Teach will be the last and the strongest.

                                                                                    I don't see, Kaido being taken down first even though he's the main target.

                                                                                    There's something that, Law doesn't know and it's a bad situation he's unaware of but the Straw-Hat pirates are.
                                                                                    It's the threat that, Big Mam made against them. The news has spread that the SH's are in the New World so surely, Big Mam now knows this.
                                                                                    Do you think that maybe she plans to send out her underlings to attack them? If she does, Law will see that he's caught up in the trouble that, Luffy started as well. This is something unexpected for him. I don't think that, Kaido will be taken down anytime soon. I think that both, Kaido and Big Mam will begin to send out underlings to take them down. That may also mean, Kaido's 500 Beast, the Artificial zoan types.
                                                                                    Being targeted by 2 Emperors at once. Epic?
                                                                                    Of course the SH's can't just go straight for the 3rd strongest in my opinion. Due to, Kaido's 500 beast it may even make him more fearsome than, Shanks making him 2nd to, Teach. And being one of the 4 Emperors he must have plenty of allies under him. He can send them to attack as well.

                                                                                    So I'm thinking they will take down, Big Mam first! There's a problem with that though. Kid And his allies are targeting her as well judging from the fact that he's attacking her allies ships. Not sure what to think of that though.

                                                                                    How will, Trafalgar Law react to this?
                                                                                    I also can't help but think that, Caribou has some connection to, Kaido. On Fish-Men island he said "That person". You all remember, right? When he tried to kidnap, Shirahoshi, Luffy sensed him with haki and deduced that he was some kind of beast. That's odd, right? In the cover pages he's running into, Scotch who works for, Kaido. What if, Caribou isn't human?

                                                                                    I also believe that even though, Don Chinjao is a former pirate, he has now joined, Kaido and became one of his 500 Beast who ate the Artifical Zoan type Devil fruit. The same goes for, Boo And Sai his two grandchildren. The hint I get is from the numbers tatted on each of them. Strange that they each have different numbers on them right? Reminds me of the Espada from bleach. Scotch, who works for, Kaido also has a different number on his body as well. Of course there's more to it. Maybe, Kaido sent his underlings to, Doflamingo because of what's been happening.

                                                                                    Anyways, after, Doflamingo gets defeated what happens next?

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                                                                                    I disagree. I think Tatch is the weakest actually. I mean technically he might have the most power objectively due to Whitebeards's ability but stolen power is never the sames as power that has been earned. As for the others it's hard to say. Obviously he and Kaido are at least equals or Shanks has a slight advanatage since he reppelled him only with his small crew. Big Mom is a wild card since we have almost info about her

                                                                                    Personally I wouldn't be surprsied if Luffy accidentally manages to get Big Mom and Kaido to fight each other

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                                                                                      I think Luffy and Law will together defeat Kaido.

                                                                                      Then Luffy will fight against big mom 1vs1 and stalemate her.

                                                                                      Then Luffy will defeat/kill Akainu and BB will kill Shanks.

                                                                                      Then Luffy will kill BB and reach raftel.

                                                                                      This is in short how I expect the story to go.

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                                                                                        I'm not saying Kid will be an ally like Paulie or Hachi. His involvement will be similar to Law's and his role will be crucial in taking down one of the Emperor's. However, Luffy is the main character and because of his actions, he's going to be part of the upcoming battles with both Kaido and Big Mom. Since when has Luffy fought the 2nd strongest guy and let someone else take the big bad? Never.

                                                                                        That's what you're implying and isn't Law an ally at the moment? The best case scenario is KAH defeating a Yonkou at the same time/before or after the SHeart alliance, that will make both sides itchy and even better will be If the one that KAH defeat is Kaido since it will make Law looks like a fool, it will also make him go after them with the help of the SHs for taking the advantage/credit of what they did.

                                                                                        I don't get that part though…

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                                                                                        OP, you high class being, let me contribute something useful by helping you understand English grammar.

                                                                                        http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/commas.asp

                                                                                        I doubt that you'll get any of it, though. :3

                                                                                        I don't know why you bother, you're just gonna get a " Low Class or Fodder"

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                                                                                          What I'm implying is Kid will play a much bigger role than fighting fodder similar to past allies. We've already gone way too far into this story arc with kidnapping Caesar, destroying the SAD factory, and this whole business with Doflamingo for Kid to take down Kaido all of a sudden. That's why I think he is after Big Mom, especially since he was sinking her ships the day before his alliance was made. And I've already expressed why I think Luffy needs to take down Big Mom and not Kid.

                                                                                          And the bolded sentence means Luffy won't sit back and fight Pekoms while Kid fights Big Mom. It's in his nature to fight the strongest in the crew.

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                                                                                            Lmao come on seriously people???
                                                                                            To me it goes
                                                                                            1- KAIDO: said to be the Strongest creature and that implies his equal or stronger than the strongest man(WB), that's if he has always been called that when WB was alive.

                                                                                            2- SHANKS and BIG MOM: know nothing about them or any kinda hype so they the same.

                                                                                            4- BLACKBEARD: he a newbie yonko, he a rookie yonko especially his crew, he has less experience compared to others when it come to ruling as an emperor, and noway in hell I will believe someone who has been a yonko for 2 years is suddenly better than the others we know who have been their for decades as far as we know.

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                                                                                            Well we have 2 alliances that of Luffy/Law and then we have Kidd/Apoo/Hawkins.

                                                                                            Kidd is a supernova who has a slightly higher bounty than Luffy(probably because he KILLS people). Who knows maybe Kidd's crew will take down Big Mom and Law's group take down Kaido.

                                                                                            To make Luffy have to take down every major villain would be an insult to the other great supernovas.

                                                                                            Damn it pisses me off when people still call or refer them as "SUPERNOVAS", yeah true 2years ago they were supernovas but not anymore, they are "WORST GENERATION". Caribo, his brother etc are now the current supernovas

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                                                                                              But you still knew who I meant…. yes the "Worst Generation" is a better title,agreed.

                                                                                              How can you put BB below,when Oda is clearly making look like the Strongest Yonko after the TS.

                                                                                              He not only inflicted the wound on Shanks with no DF, he defeated Ace, aquired the 2 strongest DF shown so far, and also seems to be able to aquire devil fruits for his crew.

                                                                                              Recently his first commander beat an entire block under 10 minutes and he doesn't even look like strongest.

                                                                                              P.S. Aren't you from MS? I swear I remeber your username.

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                                                                                                But you still knew who I meant…. yes the "Worst Generation" is a better title,agreed.

                                                                                                How can you put BB below,when Oda is clearly making look like the Strongest Yonko after the TS.

                                                                                                He not only inflicted the wound on Shanks with no DF, he defeated Ace, aquired the 2 strongest DF shown so far, and also seems to be able to aquire devil fruits for his crew.

                                                                                                Recently his first commander beat an entire block under 10 minutes and he doesn't even look like strongest.

                                                                                                P.S. Aren't you from MS? I swear I remeber your username.

                                                                                                Just for that you get a share in here, is not that we know what you meant in that you have to use the correct title.

                                                                                                Oda is not making BB looks like the strongest Yonkou, the only difference is that we know him but we still don't know the other three yonkous at all.

                                                                                                That wound was inflicted way before Shanks met Luffy, do the math

                                                                                                His first commander defeated a bunch of fodders that were in his block

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                                                                                                  But you still knew who I meant…. yes the "Worst Generation" is a better title,agreed.

                                                                                                  How can you put BB below,when Oda is clearly making look like the Strongest Yonko after the TS.

                                                                                                  He not only inflicted the wound on Shanks with no DF, he defeated Ace, aquired the 2 strongest DF shown so far, and also seems to be able to aquire devil fruits for his crew.

                                                                                                  Recently his first commander beat an entire block under 10 minutes and he doesn't even look like strongest.

                                                                                                  P.S. Aren't you from MS? I swear I remeber your username.

                                                                                                  Lmao so you telling me other yonko won't defeat Ace even faster than BB did? Inflicted a wound to shanks huh? 10years ago Shanks had that wound and Oda has intentionally been hidding Shanks face during Roger flashback so we don't know if he had the scar back then or not, so from that I guess BB gave shanks that scar when Shanks was a rookie or when he was on his road to be yonko because if you notice Shanks scar is part if his Jolly Roger

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                                                                                                  And please, other yonko commanders have been shown threatening an Admiral while Burgess wasn't even a match for Ace back then.

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