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Personally, it felt like a waste to me. Since we see Law at Punk Hazard as a Warlord, then he like loses the position almost immediately next arc. XD
I feel like another Supernova could have benefitted more. Like Urogue, or Apoo (who is still secretly serving Kaido, the weasel). Alas.
Yeah, I can't disagree with that. The only thing readers got out of it was Law and Smoker having a chill conversation before Luffy's crew busted out the door. I honestly forgot after a couple chapters that he was a warlord.
The idea of another supernova getting the title is interesting, though now my mind is stuck at the mind-twister of X Drake somehow becoming one.
Well, not possible now.
IMO, the thing is that Oda was planning to disband the Warlords eventually, so there was no point in creating new complex characters just to fulfill the empty slots in the interim. He said at one point Hawkins was meant to become a Warlord, for instance.
So, it comes down to this: there were 3 spots left. The chosen characters were Buggy (keeping him relevant and moving him to the New World), Law (who was available anyway) and Weevil (who, let's be frank, is not meant to be a main villain. He's probably meant to be a secondary opponent in someone else's plot).
As for an in-universe explanation: Law just saw the position as advantageous, allowing him to do his business while not having to worry about marines stepping on his plans. Jabra's explanation is pretty good.
Has it ever been said how the minks are able to summon electricity?
Not confirmed. I see it as having to do with their fur. Carrot was able to tell that a homie wasn't a Mink because they didn't use it
Did Linlin start her pirate crew 62 years ago or 33 years ago? I got the impression that it started when Streusen approached her, yet, it has been alternatively suggested that the Big Mom Pirates started several years after she and Captain Rocks got defeated at God Valley, so when was it?
Did Linlin start her pirate crew 62 years ago or 33 years ago? I got the impression that it started when Streusen approached her, yet, it has been alternatively suggested that the Big Mom Pirates started several years after she and Captain Rocks got defeated at God Valley, so when was it?
I think she started the Big Mom family 62 years ago, got thin, joined Rocks, then after they disbanded started the Big Mom pirates 33 years ago and got fat again.
What's the name of this Roger pirate chased by Nekomamushi?
He looks scared lol
Did Linlin start her pirate crew 62 years ago or 33 years ago? I got the impression that it started when Streusen approached her, yet, it has been alternatively suggested that the Big Mom Pirates started several years after she and Captain Rocks got defeated at God Valley, so when was it?
The Rocks pirates were formed when several powerful pirates joined forces under Captain Rocks D. Xebec, so Linlin was already a powerful figure back then.
But Perospero, her eldest child, was just a 10-year old when Rocks disbanded, so I don't think the Big Mom Pirates existed back then.
Since Big Mom is said to only trust family, maybe the Rocks' unstable nature made her make a new crew out of her family.
It should be noted that Roger called Linlin by name rather than as Big Mom 20 years ago, so the name Big Mom may have become known after or around the time she became known as an Yonko.
What's the name of this Roger pirate chased by Nekomamushi?
He looks scared lol
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Ah, his name is Millet Pine.
Ah, his name is Millet Pine.
Let's just say that according to the pic I posted,if it was him unconscious in Amazon lily instead of Luffy,the Kuja wouldn't have found any "mushroom"
Why didnt Rayleigh do anything to help Ace? I mean its his captain's son.
Why didnt Rayleigh do anything to help Ace? I mean its his captain's son.
Eh, Rayleigh isn’t obligated. I’m not even sure Rayleigh knew about Ace’s connection before Sengoku made it known.
Why didnt Rayleigh do anything to help Ace? I mean its his captain's son.
If Ace was raised around the Roger pirates or even born some time before the crew disbanded maybe the surviving Roger pirates show up to Marineford.
Roger had Ace entrusted to Garp of all ppl. I wouldn't be surprised if Rayleigh had no clue.
Does Jinbe have no scars from Akainu's attack?
I have tried to find Oda's Wanted! in print format to purchase, but can only find every other language other than English. Does anyone know if this exists in a translated format on the internets somewhere? Have been unsuccessful in web searches as well. PM?
Does Jinbe have no scars from Akainu's attack?
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If he did, it would get covered if he tattooed himself again, like Nami's.
If he did, it would get covered if he tattooed himself again, like Nami's.
That’s interesting, because there was a time Oda choose to visually acknowledge how meaningful Nami’s scar was.
I forget (or maybe it was never mentioned), exactly why did Judge choose Sanji to marry in to the Charlotte family and not his other children?
Was it cuz he was already a pirate and the most expendable given their relationship? He didn't want to marry away his others sons and daughter? Were his other kids already spoken for?
I was rereading the Zou arc and it just hit me that the entire WCI could've went down without Sanji or the SHs
Yeah, I think it was said because he was expendable or rather to Judge he was worthless and therefore could be wasted on a marriage with BM.
In other words he would never aproach BM pirates with an alliance proposal with one of his other kids on the line
Correct, he tells Sanji this in Chapter 833
Kong is the WG Commander-in-Chief. I know that being the U.S. President makes you the Commander-in-Chief, but that's the only real world application I know of the term and I don't know how it works in other countries. So can Kong be assumed to be around equal rank to a President, Prime Minister, etc. just on a global scale? Or does the position vary by country and it's not always the same as U.S.?
The position can vary but usually it translates.
Even in the OP world with the way the hierarchy is there's a whole group, a bunch of celestial dragons, and a super secret person above Kong. He oversees and can call shots to CP divisions and order around marines but even he answers to someone.
Something that has been bothering me.
In Marineford, there were moments when Whitebeard's power was represented by his attacks cracking the air. And moments when his power was represented with a sphere of power surrounding either his hand or blade.
For instance, check chapter 575: WB's first attack on Akainu uses the sphere effect. The second ones uses the cracking effect and has the aftershock of the earthquake.
With the revelation that Conqueror Haki can be used in attacks, producing an effect similar to the sphere one (again, check chapter 575, WB hurts Akainu without touching him), could Oda be actually showing haoshoku attacks since then, but we were assuming it was the Gura Gura no Mi all along?
I mean, Whitebeard even uses the sphere effect when touching Blackbeard, which shouldn't be possible, right?
What do you think?
(BTW, the Anime does confuse the two effects implying the sphere one is an application of the Gura Gura, there's even a moment Blackbeard nullifies it with the Yami Yami No Mi. But I didn't find this confusion in the manga)
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
Something that has been bothering me.
I mean, Whitebeard even uses the sphere effect when touching Blackbeard, which shouldn't be possible, right?
What do you think?
I think all those instances were just good ol Gura Gura as I don't recall any instance of WB using that sphere thing while being touched by BB.
First attack as you said BB uses his DF to cancel WB's powers by touching him but then after that WB slashes him and uses his spear and feet to stop BB from touching him again and that's when he hits him with the sphere punch. Or at least that's how i remember the fight so in my mind it's pretty straightforward.
@statu:
I think all those instances were just good ol Gura Gura as I don't recall any instance of WB using that sphere thing while being touched by BB.
First attack as you said BB uses his DF to cancel WB's powers by touching him but then after that WB slashes him and uses his spear and feet to stop BB from touching him again and that's when he hits him with the sphere punch. Or at least that's how i remember the fight so in my mind it's pretty straightforward.
The problem is that the final sphere attack is done while holding BB by the neck, thus touching him. Maybe BB needs to use his hand to nullify powers, but it always felt weird that touching skin to skin allowed WB to use his DF. If that’s haki, it would make more sense.
The problem is that the final sphere attack is done while holding BB by the neck, thus touching him. Maybe BB needs to use his hand to nullify powers, but it always felt weird that touching skin to skin allowed WB to use his DF. If that’s haki, it would make more sense.
Hmmm… that could be a bit problematic but i also think that you offered a decent answer yourself here. It might even be that BB doesn't necessarily need to use his hands more like it's not an ability that can be used automatically but rather requires effort.
Well I can't check myself so going completely of my memory, after WB grabbed BB by the neck he punched or slammed him(?) and were there tremor/explosion like effects that implied quake to me.
I'm sorry but I just remember that scene as being completely unambiguous.
Wait, I just remembered that Croc would use only his hand to turn stuff into sand, so this could be a similar case with BB?
@statu:
Well I can't check myself so going completely of my memory, after WB grabbed BB by the neck he punched or slammed him(?) and were there tremor/explosion like effects that implied quake to me.
There was no punch, WB formed the sphere with the hand that has helding BB's neck. The ground broke after that, but it wasn't the widespread island-sized damage WB usually does. It wasn't that different from the destruction other haki users did after timeskip.
I'm sorry but I just remember that scene as being completely unambiguous.
Search it out (in the manga), please. It's not so unambiguous.
Wait, I just remembered that Croc would use only his hand to turn stuff into sand, so this could be a similar case with BB?
Could be, but in CHapter 441 BB describes his ability and says to Ace that being in contact with his body is enough to rob a DF user of its powers.
Also, in Chapter 441, Whitebeard is able to hit Ace despite not holding him in his hand (BB gives him a backhand punch to the neck).
I remember we being confused back in Marineford when WB seemed to use his abilities despite directly touching BB. We all just assumed BB needed to use his hand, but now, with haki being expanded, I started re-reading Marineford and the sphere effect called my attention.
There's a sound effect used whenever Whitebeard conjures the bubble, maybe someone can check out what it's meant for?
I mean, you could very well be right but I think I'm unlikely to change my mind until we get some extra conformation. The fact there ground broke without any punch or slam in my opinion should actually be a point in my favor as almost all destruction (that could be taken as mini quakes) caused by haki users required force behind their haki.
Two more things I'd like to point out, we had an instance where WB showed he had trouble using coc, namely when Luffy used it to saved Ace and that after BB stole gura gura he also created a bubble around his hand.
But i do agree that touching BB and having that bubble is very strange and makes your theory quite possible.
Something that has been bothering me.
In Marineford, there were moments when Whitebeard's power was represented by his attacks cracking the air. And moments when his power was represented with a sphere of power surrounding either his hand or blade.For instance, check chapter 575: WB's first attack on Akainu uses the sphere effect. The second ones uses the cracking effect and has the aftershock of the earthquake.
With the revelation that Conqueror Haki can be used in attacks, producing an effect similar to the sphere one (again, check chapter 575, WB hurts Akainu without touching him), could Oda be actually showing haoshoku attacks since then, but we were assuming it was the Gura Gura no Mi all along?
I mean, Whitebeard even uses the sphere effect when touching Blackbeard, which shouldn't be possible, right?
What do you think?
(BTW, the Anime does confuse the two effects implying the sphere one is an application of the Gura Gura, there's even a moment Blackbeard nullifies it with the Yami Yami No Mi. But I didn't find this confusion in the manga)
I dont think Oda planned it back then but if he says it was CoC all along thats fine. He used it when angry at Akainu so that works.
Maybe also Sengoku shockwaves somehow.
@statu:
after BB stole gura gura he also created a bubble around his hand.
Yeah, I had forgotten to check BB showing off both powers. That panel confirms the bubble effect is intended to be the Gura Gura.
What's the general consensus on how Big Mom's character arc will conclude? I'm more interested in her than Kaido.
I don't know if there even is a general consensus. Some people suspect that she'll stick around to be involved in Elbaf, but that's about it for what I've heard of community opinions.
Personally I'm on board with her sticking around after Kaido gets beat. From there I can think of several possibilities.
There's no saying which option would be most satisfying, depends entirely on how it plays out. Still, giving her a satisfying ending in this manga seems like a very difficult thing. She's garnered a weird mix of sympathy and revulsion, part of me would like her to find some semblance of peace, but she's done so much bad stuff that if she settled down with no repercussions it risks leaving a bad taste and feeling out of character.
Whitebeard punching the shit out of Akainu would make even more sense if it was a conqueror's haki attack.
@Zar:
I don't know if there even is a general consensus. Some people suspect that she'll stick around to be involved in Elbaf, but that's about it for what I've heard of community opinions.
Personally I'm on board with her sticking around after Kaido gets beat. From there I can think of several possibilities.
- At some point the strawhats face her for a showdown.
- Somehow her mental problems are put under control, allowing her to live a peaceful life.
- She's beaten by another force. Could be Kid, Shanks, Blackbeard, the marines…
There's no saying which option would be most satisfying, depends entirely on how it plays out. Still, giving her a satisfying ending in this manga seems like a very difficult thing. She's garnered a weird mix of sympathy and revulsion, part of me would like her to find some semblance of peace, but she's done so much bad stuff that if she settled down with no repercussions it risks leaving a bad taste and feeling out of character.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. At the start of Wano, I had the same thought as your first bullet: Kaido will be the Yonko they beat in collaboration with other Worst Generation pirates while a weakened Big Mom Pirates crew, in terms of reputation, will get an arc for a showdown with the Straw hats. Sort of like an additional stepping stone for Luffy and Co. Before they face off with Blackbeard.
The second bullet I also like because she never had the childhood that she deserved because she was too strong for her own good, catching the eye of a child trafficker. However, great point - she's done too many evil things to get a peaceful ending. Third bullet is fine too! I think Blackbeard raiding WCI while BM is away has been discussed. For me as long as she doesn't die in Wano. Kaido is the only one that should be utterly defeated there.
*Reason I asked is because we're starting a One Piece podcast of our own with 2 friends. They're both saying Big Mom will be killed in Wano… But Kaido, the guy literally looking for a glorious death, is being set-up as a casualty of the arc.
@Gol:
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. At the start of Wano, I had the same thought as your first bullet: Kaido will be the Yonko they beat in collaboration with other Worst Generation pirates while a weakened Big Mom Pirates crew, in terms of reputation, will get an arc for a showdown with the Straw hats. Sort of like an additional stepping stone for Luffy and Co. Before they face off with Blackbeard.
The second bullet I also like because she never had the childhood that she deserved because she was too strong for her own good, catching the eye of a child trafficker. However, great point - she's done too many evil things to get a peaceful ending. Third bullet is fine too! I think Blackbeard raiding WCI while BM is away has been discussed. For me as long as she doesn't die in Wano. Kaido is the only one that should be utterly defeated there.
*Reason I asked is because we're starting a One Piece podcast of our own with 2 friends. They're both saying Big Mom will be killed in Wano… But Kaido, the guy literally looking for a glorious death, is being set-up as a casualty of the arc.
It is a very interesting topic. Pretty much every other villain has been removed from the story after their defeat, and if they reappear it's much later. Big Mom is an anomaly in that this isn't her arc, and she's got a lot of connections to other parts of the world. There's certainly a possibility she'll be dealt with in Wano, but I have a hard time seeing it get the fanfare it deserves and not taking away from Kaido's inevitable defeat. He's also an interesting one actually. I don't doubt for a second that he'll go down, but I wonder how his story will end. Will he be killed, and if so how (it would fit the best thematically, but at the same time I don't think Luffy will be responsible for it. So question is who or what will kill him)? Will he be apprehended by the marines? Will he somehow be pacified and lose his power, or escape and for whatever reason decide on a peaceful life? That's gonna be fascinating.
Good luck with the podcast!
Okay so is shinobu technically a scabbard? The recent anime episode has been doing my head in a bit with the inconsistency with the scabbards numbers, especially since Izo was a scabbard in Wano for a significant number of years but got excluded from the whole “9 scabbards” part. I would say Shinobu is a scabbard but Odas kinda side-lined her involvement with them for babysitting Momo. And then Oden obviously never officially had her as one?
Okay so is shinobu technically a scabbard? The recent anime episode has been doing my head in a bit with the inconsistency with the scabbards numbers, especially since Izo was a scabbard in Wano for a significant number of years but got excluded from the whole “9 scabbards” part. I would say Shinobu is a scabbard but Odas kinda side-lined her involvement with them for babysitting Momo. And then Oden obviously never officially had her as one?
No, neither Izo nor Shinobu are Scabbards.
"Akazaya Nine" refers to the nine retainers that followed Oda from Kuri and were seen walking under the sunset, their swords glowing red due to the sun. Shinobu was not with them, nor was Izo.
Currently, Izo is acting as a "replacement scabbard" for Kanjuro, but he was not one of the original nine.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
No, neither Izo nor Shinobu are Scabbards.
"Akazaya Nine" refers to the nine retainers that followed Oda from Kuri and were seen walking under the sunset, their swords glowing red due to the sun. Shinobu was not with them, nor was Izo.
Currently, Izo is acting as a "replacement scabbard" for Kanjuro, but he was not one of the original nine.
Well, that said, Izo was there at the start alongside Kiku, so really both Izo had known Oden for just as long as Kiku had back then, and Izo only left because of the Whitebeard situation. I’d personally be fine if Izo became an “adopted scabbard” so as to replace Kanjuro, since Kanjuro certainly never cared in the first place. lol
Well, that said, Izo was there at the start alongside Kiku, so really both Izo had known Oden for just as long as Kiku had back then, and Izo only left because of the Whitebeard situation. I’d personally be fine if Izo became an “adopted scabbard” so as to replace Kanjuro, since Kanjuro certainly never cared in the first place. lol
Yes, they were all retainers of Oda, but the specific "Nine Red Scabbards" title came from that moment they went off to fight Kaido, and Izo wasn't there. That's why they are called "nine", not 10 or 11.
Wano predictions: There will be 5 acts; All Straw Hats will get fights, some in Act 4; Big Mom Pirates will arrive; Carrot will have her moment, but won't join; Yamato will be a Kouzuki samurai and Wano's Guardian; Shanks will visit Luffy in Act 5; Next arc is Mary Geoise.
Yes, they were all retainers of Oda, but the specific "Nine Red Scabbards" title came from that moment they went off to fight Kaido, and Izo wasn't there. That's why they are called "nine", not 10 or 11.
Yep, time to make a new group name then.
Call them Momo's 11.
Why Zoro and Sanji hate each other?.
Could it be one of those I’m better, stronger than you, macho things?. If it is, it mostly comes from Sanji although in Zou when Luffy mentioned that Sanji was worth 1000 men, Zoro quickly retorted with I’m worth 2000, maybe it’s coming from both.
I feel like Sanji is the one that starts most of the fights most of the time. Maybe Sanji is a bit jealous of Zoro being the right hand of Luffy, maybe?. I don’t know, i don’t really think Sanji wants to be the Firstmate, maybe he just wants the importance of it to impress the ladies. Maybe Sanji just hate Zoro’s green hair.
Zoro does mock Sanji from time to time, so Sanji is not the only one stirring things up. But I feel that Zoro minds his own business more than Sanji when it comes to their relationship.
well as far as i remember the first time they started to squabble was all the way back at cocoyashi island over if nami was evil or something like that, with both taking obvious sides of the argument. there was also that scene at baratie where sanji flirted with nami and gave her her order for free and obv didnt do the same for zoro and usopp but i cant remember if either of them took it as an issue.
i think it later got expanded on little garden with their dino hunt and who caught larger one. From there on I think they just continued to bicker and take jabs at each other.
some ppl have been joking that it was cuz zoro looks a lot like yonji and their relationship on sunny is a bit like brothers who dont get along the best. i think at this point its just what their relationship has evolved to, it doesnt matter to who started it, the only thing that matters is to annoy and take a shot at the other one.
I think aside from sanjis chivalry they also argued cuz zoro often sleeps during dangerous weather while on ship.
Why Zoro and Sanji hate each other?.
Could it be one of those I’m better, stronger than you, macho things?. If it is, it mostly comes from Sanji although in Zou when Luffy mentioned that Sanji was worth 1000 men, Zoro quickly retorted with I’m worth 2000, maybe it’s coming from both.I feel like Sanji is the one that starts most of the fights most of the time. Maybe Sanji is a bit jealous of Zoro being the right hand of Luffy, maybe?. I don’t know, i don’t really think Sanji wants to be the Firstmate, maybe he just wants the importance of it to impress the ladies. Maybe Sanji just hate Zoro’s green hair.
Zoro does mock Sanji from time to time, so Sanji is not the only one stirring things up. But I feel that Zoro minds his own business more than Sanji when it comes to their relationship.
I’ve come to realize that’s just their own way of showing brotherly love. Sanji for example comes from an upbringing of saying insults out of love like Zeff calling him a little eggplant while Sanji refers to him back as an old geezer. When Zoro also reunited with Law at Wano, he noticeably didn’t get annoyed enough to comedically and angrily yell back at him even though Law was scolding him, so it seems that Zoro doesn’t usually show his frustrations outside of his interactions with the Straw Hats.
"There are no bounties in pirating history that surpass those of these 2 men". Does pirating history refer to both the field and the time period or just the field? If it's the latter, then there might be some outside of pirating that have higher bounties.
"There are no bounties in pirating history that surpass those of these 2 men". Does pirating history refer to both the field and the time period or just the field? If it's the latter, then there might be some outside of pirating that have higher bounties.
Considering that Dragon has been introduced as the World's Most Wanted man, I wouldn't be surprised if his bounty is the highest period.
"There are no bounties in pirating history that surpass those of these 2 men". Does pirating history refer to both the field and the time period or just the field? If it's the latter, then there might be some outside of pirating that have higher bounties.
Also strange with how such a big deal was made out of Rocks, that there wasn’t any mention as to what his status is in regards to a bounty, and if his was lower than Whitebeard and Roger’s bounty since apparently no other pirate bounties were ever known to have surpassed those two.
It's possible that Rocks bounty was Emperor level but since he was defeated in God Valley it never rose to the top.
Imagine if Luffy got defeated in Ennies Lobby, instead of getting a 300 million bounty he would just be the dude with a 100 million bounty that trashed most of the island.
