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      @King:

      If he is near Big Mom's ship (like the panel shows), he's close enough to receive the transmission. Three islands receive it because they're close enough to get the signal. The Straw Hats are not too far from Dressrosa.

      Does big mom have only one ship? A convinient question to ask at this point.

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        So Capone is working for Big Mom and X Drake for Kaido.

        I guess that's a smart way to tie so many background characters into future plots. The Supernova were already a bunch of loose ends. It's time some of them got dealt with permanently so the story can become more focused.

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          I just had an epiphany lol what if Shanks obliterates Kid and friends and then offers them to become his underlings, Shanks does have rockstar in his crew and Kid does have a heavy metal rockband theme (or is it a circus theme :ninja:) what if, like Drake did with Kaido, he accepts the offer to then further his agenda in the new world, after being battered to a pulp he won't have any other choice anyway. That's my way of looking at it and I'm going to stick by it, he has red hair so he'll fit right in. (better than all these theories of a blackbeard alliance).

          Ben Beckmann on his own can take out KHA alliance. Heck even Lucky Roo could.

          Kaidou or Big mom could say the same thing about law and luffy. All yonkous likely see rookies like them as bugs and think they can just crush them. Reminds me of the villains luffy defeated and they underestimated him, same way even DD did. That's their biggest mistake.

          Another topic, wonder what Aokiji plans with BB. Going evil for good is out of the question. Wonder if wants to make marines look bad as revenge again't Akainu, same way Fujitora is doing now. He will help BB do something…but what.

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            Where can I find a link to the japanese raw or scans? I really want a friend of mine to read the Tsuru and Capone parts and tell me what exactly is happening.

            You are on a quest to become the Pirate Prince, and you decide your fate!

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              Where in the HELL do I start?? Aokiji with BB?! Who the hell was Drakes father?? Akainu has a ton of balls mouthing off to the Gorosei like that lol!….what a chapter! So much info in only so many pages. I need to read this at least 5-10 more times lol.

              Guys the flashback of Law…. The pirates that had the Ope-Ope fruit? the marines gota kid there ?

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                @Game:

                Where can I find a link to the japanese raw or scans? I really want a friend of mine to read the Tsuru and Capone parts and tell me what exactly is happening.

                What's so confusing?

                Unless you only read MP version. That's a mess.

                Tsuru and Sengoku are going towards Dressrosa and Capone only said he's going after CC.

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                Trying to understand Bleach is like trying to drink a bottle of bleach.

                It makes no sense and you'll be dead before you're finished.

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                  @Jabberwok:

                  In a converse line of thinking, it was Doflamingo's arms dealing that sustained a war, and by cutting off that pipeline L/L brought an end to a war and its bloodshed. We assume it's bad because that guy is crying, but we really know nothing about the situation. I think it's a fair assumption that most of the people involved with Doflamingo were generally bad people. Stopping a tyrant who facilitates war is usually a good thing despite the smaller number of good people who were forced to engage in business with him and are now disadvantaged.

                  Yea it's kind of sad that the good peope would lose their supplies too.

                  Countries like flower kingdom are in war and so Chinjao went to stop Doflamingos trade from supporting the enemy.

                  Will the good people hate Luffy?

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                  I can imagine Kidd trying to pull shanks sword to himself, but shanks is so powerful, the sword doesn't move.

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                    Kaidou or Big mom could say the same thing about law and luffy. All yonkous likely see rookies like them as bugs and think they can just crush them. Reminds me of the villains luffy defeated and they underestimated him, same way even DD did. That's their biggest mistake.

                    Another topic, wonder what Aokiji plans with BB. Going evil for good is out of the question. Wonder if wants to make marines look bad as revenge again't Akainu, same way Fujitora is doing now. He will help BB do something…but what.

                    But this is Shanks we're talking about…not a villainous Warlord. The only person that could hold their own against an ageing Whitebeard pre timeskip was him. He doesn't have to underestimate anybody since he's practically Roger's heir. (Strawhat was passed down to him)

                    Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                      Tsuru and Sengoku are going towards Dressrosa and Capone only said he's going after CC.

                      There's a voice that talks like garp, but another voice sounds like Sengoku. I need to confirm exactly what's happening. Capone's intentions are vague, and I need to see if it's more clear in Japanese.

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                        Did Garp grow to care for Sabo like he did for ace?

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                          So I'm wondering what Fujitora's last line means. Is he actually going to try and get "Strawhat's" head? Or is he saying he'd be willing to be an admiral without a single base that would accept him? I'm guessing the latter. He won't resign from the service, but he will essentially be a "rogue admiral" in that he will maintain his title, but not get any assistance from the Marines/Navy from the outside except for the loyal men under his direct command.

                          This also suggests an informal alliance between Smoker and Fujitora as this chapter solidifies that they are both out for the same goals. This in turn could end up leading to a schism within the WG ranks, as in more marines or officers aware of the current WG hypocrisies and becoming more sympathetic to Fujitora after this event. Smoker did not have much pull to achieve such a thing, but Fujitora might. Maybe not outright traitorous actions, but quiet support of Fujitora.

                          From here on out, it seems that Fujitora & Smoker have since resigned themselves to keeping more of a more laissez-faire attitude toward the Strawhats in the long run–that is excepting instances where they directly attack the WG. We will likely see this play out in future entanglements.

                          As for Kuzan, I think he's mainly intending to keep an eye on Blackbeard and find out exactly what he's planning and "joining" him is the best way to do it. Also, Blackbeard is technically a warlord so the WG is essentially letting him do almost anything he wants.

                          And the Kid alliance vs Shanks....not hard to see which one comes on top.

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                          Fujitora basically gambled with lives. If he had to resort to that to achieve his goals, then so be hit. It's a gamble.

                          He did however help people when running and when pica was destroyed he'd stop the rubble.

                          He's a gambler. He made that sacrifice of having people killed.
                          Why do people expect an absolute protection of everyone?

                          Yes, this chapter solidified Fujitora as the "gambler" not only in games of chance but in achieving his goals as well. Also this alludes to Alabasta in the same sense–that the marines were "powerless" (not in merely physical sense but also a political one) especially since it is more clear here that Doflamingo's appointment came directly from the CDs. The big exception here is that Fujitora already knew that the Strawhats were useful agents for the "greater good" in taking out rogue Warlords and their ilk like Ceasar Clown.

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                            @uniaka:

                            Kaidou or Big mom could say the same thing about law and luffy. All yonkous likely see rookies like them as bugs and think they can just crush them. Reminds me of the villains luffy defeated and they underestimated him, same way even DD did. That's their biggest mistake.

                            Another topic, wonder what Aokiji plans with BB. Going evil for good is out of the question. Wonder if wants to make marines look bad as revenge again't Akainu, same way Fujitora is doing now. He will help BB do something…but what.

                            To be fair Doflamingo knew he could beat Law and Luffy, and in reality he did.

                            Although, these are freaking Yonkou we're talking about. They go through that sort of stuff all the time. Such as Crocodile, even Squardo against Roger.

                            Their crews all die and they're reduced to nothing.
                            Now we can see this with the story focussed on it, so I am very interested to see the outcome.

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                              Is there a break next week?

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                                @JohnTnaig:

                                Is there a break next week?

                                No, there is no break next week.

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                                  This may be coincidence, but Oda may have drawn inspiration on every marine base being closed to Fujitora from the classic American 1863 (fictional) short story entitled "The Man Without A Country" in which a US Army leutenant is tried with treason. After publicly rejecting the United States government in a brief fit of anger, is sentenced to never set foot on US soil nor hear the name of it mentioned in his presence. He is then forced to spend the rest of his days going from ship to ship as his wardens make sure the sentence is carried out to the letter.

                                  The obvious difference here is that unlike the story's character, Fujitora most likely will not be stripped of his rank if he does not carry out Sakazuki's order, and hence won't be subjected to such a severe sentence in comparison.

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                                    Did Garp grow to care for Sabo like he did for ace?

                                    Did Dragon grow to care about Ace like he did for Sabo? If you know the answer to this you know the answer to yours 😉

                                    Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                      What is that mark on drake? Is it similar to Z's? Anti worldgovernment?

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                                        I love how Fuji is heralded as a genius for his plans now we know what he actually wanted to do but months on months people were complaining he was incompetent and didn't do a single thing and labelled lower tier admiral, no admiral would have the balls to yell at their superior like he did this chapter. Classic example of jumping the gun. Though to be fair it was dragging a little so I can understand the frustrations.

                                        Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                          I was one who thought he was badass from start to finish.

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                                            @Game:

                                            I was one who thought he was badass from start to finish.

                                            And right you were. 😆

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                                            I can't remember exactly but we're pekoms and tamago on that big Mom ship? Like when the ship appeared in front of Swirlyhats? If not then Capone may have hijacked her ship for safe passage in the seas, anyone that isn't stupid would run miles if they saw that ship sailing towards or around them. I'd have to go back and re-read.

                                            Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                              @Dranza:

                                              And right you were. 😆

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                                              I can't remember exactly but we're pekoms and tamago on that big Mom ship? Like when the ship appeared in front of Swirlyhats? If not then Capone may have hijacked her ship for safe passage in the seas, anyone that isn't stupid would run miles if they saw that ship sailing towards or around them. I'd have to go back and re-read.

                                              yeah they were there.

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                                                yeah they were there.

                                                Yeah they were hmm and Pekoms said Mama we see Caesar so she might be aboard and all, not looking good..

                                                Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                  The new chapter is really interesting and I can't wait until it gets put in the anime format ~

                                                  BTW: There is a better translation of the chapter at this address: http://mangahead.com/Manga-English-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-793-English-Scan

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                                                    For those wondering who Drake's father is it shows him in the Corazon flashback if you care to look it up.

                                                    Edit: his name was X Barrels (X read as Diez) and Drake wanted to be a marine like him but Barrels became a pirate and physically abused his son so that's why he doesn't really care that birdcage killed his dad it's why he says in this chapter he holds no grudge over the matter.

                                                    Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                      R3DAlert you have a point. However, it took ages to Luffy to defeat Doflamingo. He has to fight with Law at the start of the fight.Do you really think Luffy can take down by himself a higher level such as Fujitora, Sakazuki, BB, Goseï, Garp, Sengoku, Yonku ?

                                                      I doubt so and I don't think he will be isolated on another island but Law and Luffy will realize that they have to keep on training. Oda will find a way trough new fight, new island, new characters (potential new trainers…)
                                                      Simple observation, Luffy does not master his Gear 4 he can't control for too long and was at Burgess'Mercy.
                                                      Finally, he is exhausted to death after this long battle, he will need to rest and Law will need to fix his arm and wounds.

                                                      Plus he has to go back to his boat and save his crew from Big Mom.

                                                      So tell me how can he take it all right now ?

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                                                        @G_soildier:

                                                        What is that mark on drake? Is it similar to Z's? Anti worldgovernment?

                                                        His Jolly Roger.

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                                                          @antoineP:

                                                          R3DAlert you have a point. However, it took ages to Luffy to defeat Doflamingo. He has to fight with Law at the start of the fight.Do you really think Luffy can take down by himself a higher level such as Fujitora, Sakazuki, BB, Goseï, Garp, Sengoku, Yonku ?

                                                          I doubt so and I don't think he will be isolated on another island but Law and Luffy will realize that they have to keep on training. Oda will find a way trough new fight, new island, new characters (potential new trainers…)
                                                          Simple observation, Luffy does not master his Gear 4 he can't control for too long and was at Burgess'Mercy.
                                                          Finally, he is exhausted to death after this long battle, he will need to rest and Law will need to fix his arm and wounds.

                                                          Plus he has to go back to his boat and save his crew from Big Mom.

                                                          So tell me how can he take it all right now ?

                                                          Yeah it would be wise to remember that despite this defeat Doffy is still stronger than Luffy and Law in a 1v1 situation and would have defeated both of them in 1v2 handicap match had it not been for plot armor. It's why I'm already ringing funeral bells for the other alliance.

                                                          Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                            Can someone link me to the Kaidou's thread ? A guess suggest Kaidou being a mythical zoan named "Oni".

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                                                            Option 1 - Shanks could integrate them to his team.
                                                            Option 2 - BB could give the ultimate lethal strike to take Shanks down
                                                            Option 3 - WG, Cpo involved.


                                                            great video on Kaidou

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                                                              @Dranza:

                                                              For those wondering who Drake's father is it shows him in the Corazon flashback if you care to look it up.

                                                              Edit: his name was X Barrels (X read as Diez) and Drake wanted to be a marine like him but Barrels became a pirate and physically abused his son so that's why he doesn't really care that birdcage killed his dad it's why he says in this chapter he holds no grudge over the matter.

                                                              Also in relation to that flashback, Tsuru's ship may be heading for the Drake pirate crew given that they apparently have some sort of history together from Tsuru rescuing him from Minion Island. Though at this point it's little more than a shot in the dark.

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                                                                Did Dragon grow to care about Ace like he did for Sabo? If you know the answer to this you know the answer to yours 😉

                                                                Dragon didn't know Ace. Garp knew Sabo. So it's not the same situation.

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                                                                  Anyone else thinking about the possibility KHA will join forces with the Straw Hearts to defeat Big Mom? since half of the straw hats are possibly hostages and Kidd sank 2 BM ships… maybe im making too many assumptions

                                                                  and BTW, i have big hopes for capone, unfortunately i also had for burgess and oda happened to rape all his honor..please dont do that to capone 😞

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                                                                    All the gorousei are bigger than I thought, even bigger than Akainu.

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                                                                      months and months of complaining about Fujitora seems really silly now.

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                                                                        @RenanBPV:

                                                                        Anyone else thinking about the possibility KHA will join forces with the Straw Hearts to defeat Big Mom? since half of the straw hats are possibly hostages and Kidd sank 2 BM ships… maybe im making too many assumptions

                                                                        and BTW, i have big hopes for capone, unfortunately i also had for burgess and oda happened to rape all his honor..please dont do that to capone 😞

                                                                        KHA don't want to join up with the Luffy Law alliance.

                                                                        They were afraid that their alliance and Laws would want to take out the same emperor. I think Kidd said they would have lost resources if they ended up fighting against each other.

                                                                        I think that the reason for this, (if i am correct) is that, the more people that take out the emperor, the more of the loot and territories need to be split.

                                                                        Instead of it being, 33% a piece, with Luffy AND Law, it would be, 20/20/20/20/20.

                                                                        IF successful.

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                                                                          Dragon didn't know Ace. Garp knew Sabo. So it's not the same situation.

                                                                          Keyword there was grow to like him, I.e. Over a lengthy period of time, that doesn't qualify Garp to grow to care for him, I don't even think we got a reaction shot from Garp over Sabo's implied death. Though if Garp has any contact with his son, which is doubtful, he probably would have known Sabo was alive and well. A long shot though.

                                                                          Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                                            Yeah it would be wise to remember that despite this defeat Doffy is still stronger than Luffy and Law in a 1v1 situation and would have defeated both of them in 1v2 handicap match had it not been for plot armor. It's why I'm already ringing funeral bells for the other alliance.

                                                                            Exactly, I mean, an emperor makes Doflamingo shit his pants.

                                                                            Shanks alone would low diff KHA captains. The level is too far.

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                                                                              Also in relation to that flashback, Tsuru's ship may be heading for the Drake pirate crew given that they apparently have some sort of history together from Tsuru rescuing him from Minion Island. Though at this point it's little more than a shot in the dark.

                                                                              That's an interesting point you've raised, quite plausible but if Garp and Sengoku are on that ship then I don't know if that's what they're doing. If Drake was a double agent for them it would be cool.

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                                                                              All the gorousei are bigger than I thought, even bigger than Akainu.

                                                                              Some of them look very Jewish, (or at least one of them definitely do) I wonder if that's an illuminati reference from Oda lol

                                                                              Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                                                Some of them look very Jewish, (or at least one of them definitely do) I wonder if that's an illuminati reference from Oda lol

                                                                                If you're sayings all Jews are part of the illuminati….

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                                                                                  Exactly, I mean, an emperor makes Doflamingo shit his pants.

                                                                                  Shanks alone would low diff KHA captains. The level is too far.

                                                                                  I think it's just a plot device set in motion to allow Shanks to showcase his abilities to us at long last and for us to have a reason to see them sooner in the story, I wish it wasn't these guys that were used as the Guinea pigs though 😞 like Kid is my favorite supernova but even I wouldn't back him to accomplish anything meaningful in this match up. Sad times.

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                                                                                  If you're sayings all Jews are part of the illuminati….

                                                                                  Well obviously not, there's a gandhi looking gorosei too, lool

                                                                                  Year of Sanji, let's go!

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                                                                                    I think this means we will get a Shanks arc sooner than later.

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                                                                                      Keyword there was grow to like him, I.e. Over a lengthy period of time, that doesn't qualify Garp to grow to care for him, I don't even think we got a reaction shot from Garp over Sabo's implied death. Though if Garp has any contact with his son, which is doubtful, he probably would have known Sabo was alive and well. A long shot though.

                                                                                      Since we don't really know how much Garp visited his grandson, that's a a pretty fast thing to say.

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                                                                                      Anyone else thinking about the possibility KHA will join forces with the Straw Hearts to defeat Big Mom? since half of the straw hats are possibly hostages and Kidd sank 2 BM ships… maybe im making too many assumptions

                                                                                      We know they are going after Shanks. So really unlikely.

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                                                                                        Enjoyed this very much.

                                                                                        With this chapter though, the last prediction/analysis I've had about Fujitora is now complete making it a successful (though separate) prediction on all his major actions in Dressrosa. Yay.

                                                                                        Anyway, I find it hilarious how a scarred red-headed rookie with a missing left arm is trying to take down a scarred red-headed veteran with a missing left arm. Heh. Good luck Kid.

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                                                                                            KHA don't want to join up with the Luffy Law alliance.

                                                                                            They were afraid that their alliance and Laws would want to take out the same emperor. I think Kidd said they would have lost resources if they ended up fighting against each other.

                                                                                            I think that the reason for this, (if i am correct) is that, the more people that take out the emperor, the more of the loot and territories need to be split.

                                                                                            Instead of it being, 33% a piece, with Luffy AND Law, it would be, 20/20/20/20/20.

                                                                                            IF successful.

                                                                                            Yeah, makes no sense attacking BM, i just think it is a possibility cause BM has a motivation to fight them and SH's are there right now, so if they were attacked, they couldn't avoid fighting

                                                                                            besides, i also think KHA wont fight shanks at all, to my ears that REALLY sound like something oda would reveal some time after the actual event, only showing its results

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                                                                                              I never doubt you Aohige… But one question?

                                                                                              Could it be that Capone actually isn't speaking About Luffy/Law. I know we expect that he got the news about Luffy/Law through the Den Den Mushi... But has it to be like it? Urouge scene for example shows nothing about him getting news.

                                                                                              So maybe Capone is holding a Den Den just to have a conservation with the other Big Mom ships and he is actually speaking about Sanji and Co doing well.

                                                                                              I know... Just my secret wish... But maybe =(

                                                                                              No.

                                                                                              He said 活躍, which is basically "doing well out there in the world".
                                                                                              Like accomplishing something, and getting noticed for it.

                                                                                              There's nothing other than L&L's news that fits that, and it would look outright dumb if it wasn't.

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                                                                                                Enjoyed this very much.

                                                                                                With this chapter though, the last prediction/analysis I've had about Fujitora is now complete making it a successful (though separate) prediction on all his major actions in Dressrosa. Yay.

                                                                                                Anyway, I find it hilarious how a scarred red-headed rookie with a missing left arm is trying to take down a scarred red-headed veteran with a missing left arm. Heh. Good luck Kid.

                                                                                                If Kidd wins, he will wear Shanks Arm.

                                                                                                If Shanks wins, he will wear Kidds arm.

                                                                                                Not a bad wager huh?

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                                                                                                  People are really underestimating the KHA alliance, they have three devil fruits with limitless hax capabilites. Apollo probably has the most hax his capabilities are endless, plus we just learned of awakening!! He can make instruments out of everything produce multiple different combinations of attacks. Plus a voodoo master and a young psycho magneto. Shanks is a haki master of course and has a powerful crew…but this is about the new age on the come up. I expect super crazy unique attacks from those three I'm excited for there battle.

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                                                                                                    That's why I like Urouge the most. He's actually putting in work (besides Luffy obviously). Everyone else is either making an alliance, joining a yonkou, or doing nothing (coughBonniecough) lol. I hope Oda shows more of him

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                                                                                                      What's the best translation out for this chapter?

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                                                                                                        Yeah it would be wise to remember that despite this defeat Doffy is still stronger than Luffy and Law in a 1v1 situation and would have defeated both of them in 1v2 handicap match had it not been for plot armor. It's why I'm already ringing funeral bells for the other alliance.

                                                                                                        I don't think Oda cares if Luffy beat Doula under certain conditions and circumstances.

                                                                                                        The last stages of the fight especially showed that Luffy was capable of overcoming the best of Doula's arsenal. I think that's what matters to Oda, as it is similar to what happened with Crocodile, Enel and Moriah.

                                                                                                        People should really stop with this 1v1 from start to finish mentality, thanks to the fact that Oda likes to make villains look invincible at the start. It's the reason power level discussions exist.

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