Ive noticed we didn't have one yet and thought we should and talk about what might happen with up coming fights or what attack that is or the characters in the tournament. If I did some thing wrong let me know, for now though, have fun 
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The tournament arc speculation thread
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Was it explained how the Tournament will work after the battle Royale stage?
Will the four winners face off against each-other in classic bracket style. Or will they each fight four of the Doflamingo seeds (aside from Diamante I mean) and then eachother. And Diamante fights the finalist?If that's not how it goes I guess that's my guess!
This will all be cool, I only hope Oda keeps it short and simple and doesn't draw it out. -
Im guessing itll end up with Bartolomeo vs Bellamy with Bellamy gettin 1 kit KO'd again
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I think this tournament is just bait for kaidoh to get his debut in one piece something big is gonna happen.
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No matter the style the tournament takes, I highly doubt it will be properly finished. Expect chaos to ensue at some point either before or during whoever Diamante fights.
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I think this tournament is just bait for kaidoh to get his debut in one piece something big is gonna happen.
The tournament is a smaller piece in the bigger Dressrosa picture, the bigger shadows lurking around are things like Fujitora, Doflamingo, and CP0.
Not Kaidou. Now would be a nonsensical time to debut him.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
@Money:
Im guessing itll end up with Bartolomeo vs Bellamy with Bellamy gettin 1 kit KO'd again
Exactly what part of Bellamy's current characterization makes you think Oda is setting up for a gag?
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I'm calling that each division will be won by a masked fighter: A to Jesus; B to Ricky; C to Luffy; and D to Rebecca (upset). From there, I don't know how pairings vs the Pirate Officers would work - probably one officer vs one division winner. Jesus, Luffy, and Ricky will all beat their officer opponents, while Rebecca will lose. Luffy will then defeat the officer who beat Rebecca, and - depending on how significant the Ricky reveal is - it's a toss-up who'll win between him and Jesus.
The finals between Luffy and Jesus/Ricky will be interrupted, and nobody will legitimately "win" the Mera Mera fruit. If it's Jesus, I expect him to get his ass handed to him by an admiral, but if it's Ricky, I suspect he and Luffy will team up and then flee when the coast is clear. In scenario B, Diamante would flee with the Mera Mera no Mi, but get raided by Jesus, who would bring the fruit back to Blackbeard.
So in summary:
Division A –> Jesus
Division B --> Ricky
Division C --> Lucy
Division D --> RebeccaJesus vs Senor Pink - SP gets his fodder self handed to him
Ricky vs Dellinger - foddered out of oblivion
Luffy vs Lao G - Probably a decent match; another young guy vs old guy battle
Rebecca vs Machvise - Machvise makes fun of and tortures Rebecca over her bad memories; curbstomps herA vs B (Jesus vs Ricky) ; C vs D (Luffy vs Machvise)
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The tournament is a smaller piece in the bigger Dressrosa picture, the bigger shadows lurking around are things like Fujitora, Doflamingo, and CP0. Not Kaidou. Now would be a nonsensical time to debut him. –- Update From New Post Merge --- Exactly what part of Bellamy's current characterization makes you think Oda is setting up for a gag?
Non but even tho Bellamy is a badass Bartolomeo seems like about a tier higher, but who knows. Now ill think itll end between Bellamy Bartolomeo n Ricky
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probably after the 4 battle royal,each winner will fight oone of the 4 doflamingo family guys…from then it will be like a normal tournament with quarter,semi and finals..the winner will then get a shot at diamante,and if they win they will get the mera mera
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I don't think the tournament will finish. The Jesus would just curbstomp everyone and it's too soon for Luffy to fight him IMO. I think blind admiral is going to show up and then the Jesus will just flee.
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I really have no idea who will win B Block. I don't think Bellamy will win, but he's obviously going to do important shit this arc. It comes down to Ricky and Barto, and in my opinion both of them have an equal chance of winning. It's pretty interesting.
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I'm calling that each division will be won by a masked fighter: A to Jesus; B to Ricky; C to Luffy; and D to Rebecca (upset). From there, I don't know how pairings vs the Pirate Officers would work - probably one officer vs one division winner. Jesus, Luffy, and Ricky will all beat their officer opponents, while Rebecca will lose. Luffy will then defeat the officer who beat Rebecca, and - depending on how significant the Ricky reveal is - it's a toss-up who'll win between him and Jesus.
The problem being, that's pretty much exactly the outcome everyone guessed the second the format of the tournament was announced. That'd be a bit boring ultimately, and like every other tournament arc ever.
After Oda's already taken great lengths to mix it up and avoid the usual pitfalls, I'd hate to think it'd boil down to the typical just-for-fun, nothing-really-at-stake one on ones for four-six months straight.
Especially with the dozen other plot threads already started up, I just can't see Oda spending that much time on this tourney. It's gotta be a red herring that'll be broken up somehow. If its simply by taking a break from it and dealing with other stuff for a while, okay, but it really messes with the momentum to keep stopping and starting plot threads.
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You should make a poll representing the current Block fighting and let users vote who they think will win.
B block is getting low on numbers but still enough to have a fun vote. THen reset it when a new block starts.
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@RobbyBevard:
The problem being, that's pretty much exactly the outcome everyone guessed the second the format of the tournament was announced. That'd be a bit boring ultimately, and like every other tournament arc ever.
After Oda's already taken great lengths to mix it up and avoid the usual pitfalls, I'd hate to think it'd boil down to the typical just-for-fun, nothing-really-at-stake one on ones for four-six months straight.
Especially with the dozen other plot threads already started up, I just can't see Oda spending that much time on this tourney. It's gotta be a red herring that'll be broken up somehow. If its simply by taking a break from it and dealing with other stuff for a while, okay, but it really messes with the momentum to keep stopping and starting plot threads.
I'd honestly love to see the 2nd round being a 4v4 team fight between the winners and the DD guys, and if the "challengers" win they fight each other for the right to 1v1 Diamente, just because it means Luffy has to team up with Jesus. Also, we haven't seen that many real team fights lasting more than a few panels.
I figure in a major crew like DD's, his people should have some experience teaming up with combination moves.
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I'd honestly love to see the 2nd round being a 4v4 team fight between the winners and the DD guys, and if the "challengers" win they fight each other for the right to 1v1 Diamente, just because it means Luffy has to team up with Jesus. Also, we haven't seen that many real team fights lasting more than a few panels.
I figure in a major crew like DD's, his people should have some experience teaming up with combination moves.
I love it. It would be different, less like a typical tourment more like the Dark Tournament in YYH (the round where they fight Dr. Ichigaki).
But honestly, I don't think this tournament will finish and it makes me sad.
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I think Bellamy is going to win division B by default. Bart is going to beat the living hell out of him and than leave the arena simply to piss off the audiance (or because Gambia warned him about the Marines presense). If any character is going to make a major appearance after Dressrosa, its definitely Bart.
Besides, why would Oda give Bellamy a second wind if he isn't gonna use him? Considering his reputation as white knight for Doflamingo, he would be good opponent for Becca. -
I think Barto is going to win this one if anything, though I could completely see Ricky coming out of no where to win just to hype up and introduce his character a bit more. But I don't think the tournament will finish ultimately. I think Fujitora will interfere (it'd be cool way to showcase Jesus' strength by having a bit of a clash between him and an admiral).
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I want to say that the contest will get interrupted, but that probably won't happen till after a bit of action from Rebecca. She seems to be the only one we haven't really seen since she was introduced. No reaction panels, dialogue, etc. I can't really imagine Oda doing the full tournament. One of these guys will probably damage the Colosseum and the Mera Mera will get relocated.
Block B: I don't think Bellamy is going to win. Bart is probably going to be the winner…
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Bellamy will unveil a new technique that will be very similar to Gear 2.
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Thing is, D Block can't simply just be interrupted. If that happens, what's the point of introducing and hyping Senor Pink, Dellinger, Lao G, Machvise, and Diamante? It's far too set-up to be suddenly interrupted in the preliminary round. We would probably get a shocker in D Block if anything.
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Yeah the Marines aren't making a move untill the final bell is rung.
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Yeah the Marines aren't making a move untill the final bell is rung.
Well they aren't going to do a "surprise attack" with civilians all over, huh?
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@400MillionBelis:
Well they aren't going to do a "surprise attack" with civilians all over, huh?
Unless I read the scene wrong the only thing Fuji asked for was extra medical personal and a civilian head count.
He's gonna attack the colosseum, but he'll make sure to clean up the mess he makes. -
In my opinion the second part of the competition is gonna be a tournament like DB. Meaning the for members they get match decide by luck and the one who comes in top fight Diamente.
Luffy(in gear second) is going to take of the Don by giving him a good beat-up everywhere else aside from the head.
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Marines can't enter the Coliseum, but I think that Elizabello's punch will destroy the arena in a way or another, so a brief stop to relocate the tournament to somewhere else…that is Green Bit
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Kind of surprising that with the Mera Mera fruit on the line, we haven't seen a Whitebeard Crewmember participate to claim it.
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@RobbyBevard:
The problem being, that's pretty much exactly the outcome everyone guessed the second the format of the tournament was announced. That'd be a bit boring ultimately, and like every other tournament arc ever.
As far as tournament structure goes, i think having 4 battle royal +elimination matches +having a final battle, is pretty unique already.
The structure of a tournament can`t be that complex afterall and even with a lot of people guessing it..well, why is that boring?
Everybody knew the DB Tournament structure and it was still damn good.About the contestants:
Of course we know Lucy will advance but the other blocks are at least not one-sided.
With Jesus there is even a guy participating who could cause serious trouble to Luffy, what beside Diamante actually no enemy could accomplish to Luffy right now.
B-block has Ricky,Barto and Bellamy, which all at least have a fair chance of winning. (well, more or less,hehe)
C-Block and D-Block at least are promising a good final clashes with Rebecca vs Cavendish could also have a twist.
Beside that iam amazed how many characters Oda introduced in this tournament.
I mean that the character-right-and-left-throwing-at-us Oda would show his skills again isn`t surprising, but again so many characters!!!
I thought: "Pls Oda introduce at least some interesting fighters in this tournament beside the DD-family."
And so he did.Especially with the dozen other plot threads already started up, I just can't see Oda spending that much time on this tourney. It's gotta be a red herring that'll be broken up somehow. If its simply by taking a break from it and dealing with other stuff for a while, okay, but it really messes with the momentum to keep stopping and starting plot threads.
I also can`t see the tournament go down smoothly, simply because Jesus is involved, but iam pretty sure we will at least reach the phase after the block-winners fought against a DD-family member.
Or else this whole set up by now and the stretched b-block fight would be pointless.(at least showing all those side characters who we all know have no chance of winning this, but establish that this tournament is a tuff one^^)For the side stories iam pretty sure that Oda will use the break between each block and later between each fight vs DD-family member to show us what happened to the other side stories.
So he could spice up the overall story (tournament definitely takes now the spotlight from the main story) and creates some time to breath between the fights that are coming.
Also i wouldn`t be surprised that some of the side-stories would end up getting involved with the tournament somehow.
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The recent chapter makes me think that Cavendish might just get himself disqualified before the D block starts, giving Rebecca the greenlight to advance. Cabbage has already established his prominence in the story, so he'll still be relevant even if he does lose the tourney.
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I guess the four Block winners will each fight one of Doflamingo's men. Then I'd at least want to see a Luffy vs Lao G or Machvise before the tournament gets interrupted. If Oda goes classical tournament style, we're going for months of 1v1 fights, without much story progression, which would quite surprise (and probably disappoint) me. If the tournament is indeed stopped, I guess it'll have something to do with a spiteful Don Chinjao, especially if he came to retrieve the fruit for someone like Kaidou, or Blackbeard, should Burgess fall. I believe Luffy will only obtain the Mera Mera fruit after beating Doflamingo, not during the tournament.
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Bellamy will unveil a new technique that will be very similar to Gear 2.
even if that was possible with his fruit,his heart would explode…not a great tecnique if you ask me
Marines can't enter the Coliseum, but I think that Elizabello's punch will destroy the arena in a way or another, so a brief stop to relocate the tournament to somewhere else…that is Green Bit
doflamingo status is revoked,that law doesn't exist anymore
Kind of surprising that with the Mera Mera fruit on the line, we haven't seen a Whitebeard Crewmember participate to claim it.
is already a miracle that all these powerful individuals were less than a day of navigation away from dressrosa
I guess the four Block winners will each fight one of Doflamingo's men. Then I'd at least want to see a Luffy vs Lao G or Machvise before the tournament gets interrupted. If Oda goes classical tournament style, we're going for months of 1v1 fights, without much story progression, which would quite surprise (and probably disappoint) me. If the tournament is indeed stopped, I guess it'll have something to do with a spiteful Don Chinjao, especially if he came to retrieve the fruit for someone like Kaidou, or Blackbeard, should Burgess fall. I believe Luffy will only obtain the Mera Mera fruit after beating Doflamingo, not during the tournament.
i think luffy will go against dellinger…seems like a smart guy,the kind of guy luffy has tons of problems fighting against
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@Don:
I also can`t see the tournament go down smoothly, simply because Jesus is involved,
Shouldn't Burgess be the guy with the most interest in this tournament? I mean, people who think they're champions like to prove it when the opportunity present itself, and what better way to do this than a tournament with all these strong and famous people? The only time I can see Burgess ruining this tournament is if he lost… he'll probably go on a rampage then.
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Round 13
Block A:Jesus
Block B:Ricky
Block C:Luffy
Block D:Rebbeca
The reason rebbeca will win block d is because cavindish wont be in it i think hell find some guy from block c with a mask kick his ass and enter block c disguised as him as for chinjao i dont think he will be much of a problem for luffy i think hes only getting hyped so it doesnt look like block c is full of complete fodder his stalemate with cavenbitch proved that me unless ofcourse his "true objective" isnt the fire fruit but somethi g else in which case he will play a more important roleRound 2
THe four block winners will face diamantes men in either one on fights or team up and face them in a four on four brawlRound 3
the survivors of round 2 face off in one on one fights i too like one of the above posters think that jesus will fight ricky but i think burgess will kick rickys ass and ricky will get a flashback as he gets defeatedRound 4
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In Block B, it's a possibility that Barto will not be defeated but eliminated by a "new rule" created specially by the judges for him to go out lol. The audience not really like him…
I don't think that "sportsmanship is a word can define this obviously "trap" tournament, with the Mera-Mera No Mi as a trophy.
The Blocks are define to introduce characters to be important in Dressrosa arc.
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sorry forthe doublepost but my tablets fucked up it wouldnt let me complete the first one it will all culminate with luffy vs burgess with the winner facing diamante for the fruit but luffy and burgesses fight wont happen it will get interupted somehow though i do think that luffy will end up with the fruit at the end of the arc
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Also, I hope Oda shows that the four dudes from the Doflamingo Family actually care about winning the tournament rather than just filling a place in it, like they actually wants to beat Diamante.
Now that I remember Bellamy's dialogue, maybe this tournament affects the member's position in the family… like, the more you win, the higher your position would be in the family?
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Even though he's not in the tournament, Franky vs Burgess would be badass as hell to witness in this arc.
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even if that was possible with his fruit,his heart would explode…not a great tecnique if you ask me
How would his heart explode? His body can handle the same thing with pumping springs.
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@Don:
As far as tournament structure goes, i think having 4 battle royal +elimination matches +having a final battle, is pretty unique already.
That's pretty standard Dragonball there. There being this much focus on the battle royales is unique, since Dragonball glossed over it within a chapter usually, and Naruto had a forest of death and randomized the competitors, and YuYuHakusho by being team matches and Fairy Tail by sucking… but having 8 guys in one-on-one eliminations is pretty standard... ESPECIALLY when you already have a pretty solid idea who the two finalists are going to be so all the matches until then are just stalling, and there's no known friendlies to really root for.
It'd be more of a crazy toss up if Luffy didn't make it past the prelims, or if Rebecca wasn't the only pre-established sympathetic character in the D round, and thus likely to get through that. (She's inevitably going to be beaten horribly so Luffy can deal with her problem for her... she might not even finish the royale) I suppose Luffy could face Burgess before the final match...
the fact that folks are readily assuming the whole thing is going to be interrupted in some way because the current flow is so predictable and will take months as currently setup could be a problem.
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@RobbyBevard:
That's pretty standard Dragonball there. There being this much focus on the battle royales is unique, since Dragonball glossed over it within a chapter usually, and Naruto had a forest of death and randomized the competitors, and YuYuHakusho by being team matches and Fairy Tail by sucking… but having 8 guys in one-on-one eliminations is pretty standard... ESPECIALLY when you already have a pretty solid idea who the two finalists are going to be so all the matches until then are just stalling, and there's no known friendlies to really root for.
It'd be more of a crazy toss up if Luffy didn't make it past the prelims, or if Rebecca wasn't the only pre-established sympathetic character in the D round, and thus likely to get through that. (She's inevitably going to be beaten horribly so Luffy can deal with her problem for her... she might not even finish the royale) I suppose Luffy could face Burgess before the final match...
the fact that folks are readily assuming the whole thing is going to be interrupted in some way because the current flow is so predictable and will take months as currently setup could be a problem.
when was there a battle royal in dragonball??
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How would his heart explode? His body can handle the same thing with pumping springs.
luffy can pump much more blood much faster because he makes pumps with his legs,but it's the fact that his heart and his blood vessels are made of rubber too that makes gear second works,because they can inflate accordingly…
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doflamingo status is revoked,that law doesn't exist anymore
His Warlord status was revoked, but his King status is still on.
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when was there a battle royal in dragonball??
Well, the most prominent battle royale was the one with 18, Mr. Satan and a couple other shlubs.
Otherwise it was always the prelims. It wasn't so much a battle royale as a "defeat every mook in quick mini-matches" set off off-camera matches. Generally all we ever saw was Goku one-shotting a single big guy and then hearing everyone else had done the same to whatever competition they had. It was always resolved in a couple of pages with no actual time put into it.
That the main cast managed to get into seperate groups every time and completely wiped the floor with the minor competition is pretty much the same result. Such a non-event that usually only one guy was showcased, but they always trimmed it down from a hundred entrants to 8 guys beforehand.
Like I said, the fact that OP is showing off the fights against all the shlubs is what makes it unique and interesting, but once it whittles it down to 8 guys it looks to be pretty typical.
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@RobbyBevard:
Well, the most prominent battle royale was the one with 18, Mr. Satan and a couple other shlubs.
Otherwise it was always the prelims. It wasn't so much a battle royale as a "defeat every mook in quick mini-matches" set off off-camera matches. Generally all we ever saw was Goku one-shotting a single big guy and then hearing everyone else had done the same to whatever competition they had. It was always resolved in a couple of pages with no actual time put into it.
That the main cast managed to get into seperate groups every time and completely wiped the floor with the minor competition is pretty much the same result. Such a non-event that usually only one guy was showcased, but they always trimmed it down from a hundred entrants to 8 guys beforehand.
Like I said, the fact that OP is showing off the fights against all the shlubs is what makes it unique and interesting, but once it whittles it down to 8 guys it looks to be pretty typical.
ah i forgot about the battle royale with mr.satan and 18
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doflamingo status is revoked,that law doesn't exist anymore
When the one-legged toy soldier went to the colosseum and reminded the officers of the law, they didn't chase him. This was three chapters after Doflamingo forfeited his title of King. We also don't know whether it was Doflamingo that implemented that law; it could have been in place since the colosseum was first built.
His Warlord status was revoked, but his King status is still on.
He gave up both his title of Shichibukai and status of King. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/157642/one-piece_ch699_by_mangarule/16
I accept Jesus Burgess as my Lord and Savior
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luffy can pump much more blood much faster because he makes pumps with his legs,but it's the fact that his heart and his blood vessels are made of rubber too that makes gear second works,because they can inflate accordingly… bellamy's heart can't do that..so even if he tries to use his springs to replicate some sort of a pump ,his heart would explode from the higher than normal blood pressure
Springs aren't compact and tight, they can expand. Kinda early to jump the gun since we only seen one new technique from him.
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@Medical:
He gave up both his title of Shichibukai and status of King. http://www.batoto.net/read/_/157642/one-piece_ch699_by_mangarule/16
Doesn't change the fact the law of "No Marines or the police in the Colosseum" is still up.
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@RobbyBevard:
That's pretty standard Dragonball there. There being this much focus on the battle royales is unique, since Dragonball glossed over it within a chapter usually, and Naruto had a forest of death and randomized the competitors, and YuYuHakusho by being team matches and Fairy Tail by sucking… but having 8 guys in one-on-one eliminations is pretty standard... ESPECIALLY when you already have a pretty solid idea who the two finalists are going to be so all the matches until then are just stalling, and there's no known friendlies to really root for.
It'd be more of a crazy toss up if Luffy didn't make it past the prelims, or if Rebecca wasn't the only pre-established sympathetic character in the D round, and thus likely to get through that. (She's inevitably going to be beaten horribly so Luffy can deal with her problem for her... she might not even finish the royale) I suppose Luffy could face Burgess before the final match...
A Tournament arc will always be "standard", that is the problem a "tournament-arc" always has to handle.
But to be honest, freshing the whole idea up a little is all you can do..how else could you do such an arc ? (in this case its just an side event^^ ) However you make the structure of the tournament, its pretty obvious that this isn`t the first time someone came up with that idea, for that a tournament-arc is just way to common in almost every shonen manga.Also the formula that the hero makes it to the final battle and fights from round to round a stronger opponent..well, it
s approved over time and would we really want to see Luffy going out of the tournament early just to have something.."new"? Iam aware that Oda is most likely the person who could throw such a screwball, but honestly is that what we rly want to see? Mixing stuff up with opponents who should obviously be longer in the tournament, yeah that is something i would expect of Oda. So Bartolomew or Kyros will already go out (one for sure) and later seeing Jesus lose to someone else as Luffy..well, that definitely could happen, but i guess most of us doubt that. Everything else than Luffy vs Jesus (dont matter when for me) and Luffy vs Diamante would be definitely a shock for me to see…in a good and in a bad way in this case
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Doesn't change the fact the law of "No Marines or the police in the Colosseum" is still up.
I didn't say it did. Quite the opposite, in the post I quoted above yours I explained to maju why the law is still in effect.
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It's unlikely, but..I kinda get the feeling Luffy will either get disqualified before the prelims are over, or lose/forfeit for some reason.
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I think the Kings punch is gonna wreck a lot of the arena floor but they will still go on, and I think Bart is gonna win his block. Though I like the theory that maybe Bellamy will spring absorb the King's hit and bounce into Bart to get past that weird shield of his. Luffy will win his block in the process beating Don Whale by pounding him in the stomach. I'm not sure about Cavendish but he ain't beating Luffy that's for sure. D block will start, be interrupted perhaps by the blind guy. And I'm absolutely sure at some point Luffy's identity will be revealed in the chaos.
So basically the tournament will be interrupted, and Luffy will eventually obtain the fruit by fighting Doflamingo later in the arc. Rebecca will probably go along for the ride, usually that's the sort of thing that happens when a side character is introduced that doesn't like the big baddie of the arc. But hey, who knows. This arc seems really unpredictable.
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