I was thinking about this and my brother's and I were arguing over this as well. One Piece vs.Rurouni Kenshin.I said that Rurouni kenshin would kick their butts. these are super human monsters with incredible ability they can also read opponents every move, predict what you're going to do before you even do it. they are just to strong for one piece. I just do not believe that One Piece characters have the skills nor the intelligence of fighting to match Rurouni kenshin Characters.
Who would win?
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We don't need this I'm afried, this will olny attach fanboys waiting in shadows. Personally I don't care
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yeah i guess you are right, some one delete this thread!!
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For some reason I don't think this battle would ever occur.
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Come to think of it, I never like to compare a series to another series like Final Fantasy 7 fans would compare to Final Fantasy 9. One Piece is about growing in experiance, in other shonen series a character is already storng and they always shoot beams, cast magic, and slice monsters with no problem which is boring and reptitve. One Piece is unique, each characters have there own abilites and skills. They have dials, cloud power, devil fruits, rokusiki, a cyborg, a sword power and a kicking power. Oda may add a character that can shoot lesers and beams but that is not yet to come
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I don't think an intellectual debate is too bad…
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Come to think of it, I never like to compare a series to another series like Final Fantasy 7 fans would compare to Final Fantasy 9. One Piece is about growing in experiance, in other shonen series a character is already storng and they always shoot beams, cast magic, and slice monsters with no problem which is boring and reptitve. One Piece is unique, each characters have there own abilites and skills. They have dials, cloud power, devil fruits, rokusiki, a cyborg, a sword power and a kicking power. Oda may add a character that can shoot lesers and beams but that is not yet to come
I also just realized its kind of hard to compare who would win in different series. For all we know Luffy could be weak compared to the characters in the world of RK or the other way around too.
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these are super human monsters with incredible ability they can also read opponents every move, predict what you're going to do before you even do it.
Which basically describes Ener, except without the whole "ability to throw lightning at people" thing. Any pseudo-realistic series is going to get steam-rolled by One Piece thanks to the Logia Fruit users.
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Also they would all suffer massive protein deficiencies once Luffy found where they kept the meat.
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ah this brings me back i suddenly am flooded by memories of the old Kenshin vs Zoro thead that went on for 20+ pages^^
and back on topic in my opinion i think that even a low level guy like Jin-e could take down all people from the various blues and most of the people from early grandline in a 1-on-1 fight.
and people like Aoshi and Soujiro could prove a worthy match up against everyone else up to Zoros level and they even might win against Zoro.
then after that its the Battosai himself,Shishio,and Enishi who IMO could take Zoro and some People who are better than him,
and thens there Hiko seijuro who could duke it out with the best there is namely Mihawk and that one i dont know cause there hasnt been too much shown about either of them we just know they are at the top of the food chain both of them.
EDIT this of course doesnt include the Logia since they are basicly unbeateable.
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I really do not think the logia are unbeatable compared to these master swordsman. Shishio could easily kill crocodile since he is sand and sand turns into crystal once heated. Ener's lightning will not be able to touch any of the characters from rurouni kenshin because they are faster than lightning. These characters in Rurouni kenshin not only have monsterous strength and god like Speed, but an intelligence level of knowing the opponent.
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you might use science to find a weakness to the particular element but how the hell do you think a bunch of simple swordsman from the meji era without any scientific knowledge whatsoever would be able to do that?
and the arent that fast and even if they were he coudl just wear them out or just shock them when they try to cut him down.
btw how do you figure that shishio could generate enough heat ?
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I am afraid you are mistaken wolfwood.I am not using science this is simply the skill of these characters. Kenshin, Shishio and Teken is able to register their opponent's techniques and could then analyze their strengths and weaknesses, and then take advantage of them. they also have a superior sense of judgment in combat along with superhuman strength. Zolo can't even cut steel it took him a while to even do that. Rurouni kenshin does that in his sleep.
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….you do know that the read and find a weakness thing only works with swordsmanship/martial arts right ?
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Yes they can Shishio will kill crocodile because his sword attacks are heaven's flames, crocodile will simply die and crystalize (or Water). Ener would not be able to touch kenshin because kenshin know's what he is going to do before Ener does it. Oh yeah by the time teken uses "HEAVEN"S INSTANT KILL" Ener would die without even seeing Teken or feeling the pain. He's so fast he reduces the earth. Tell me that's not SPECIAL ABILITIES!!!
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uh no first of his swords arent able to generate that much heat as to crystalize croc secondly he would have no clue as whats able to crystalize sand cause that would require scientific knowledge which he does not have,
Ener has the the same ability just better(mantra) so he can acctauly predict him 100% whilst kenshin is just makin educated guesses so that kinda gives him an even larger edge given that he even bothers to do so,
and it doesnt matter how fast he is since he cant be cut ener can be a being of pure energy he wants to so he would just turn into electricty and fry him when he tries to cut him.
im not denying that they have special powers just stating that they dont have a snowballs chance in hell against a logia user,
I dont wanna be rude i just get the feeling that your blinded by fanboyism for kenshin(im also a kenshin fanboy btw:) ) and just ignores the facts or that you dont know what powers a logia has(like you saying that they could take ener thats just stupid since hes basicly godlike he can fry you in second read your mind 100% and cant be hurt physicly) or maybe you think that the RK characters skills are greater than they actualy are( like that you think they can just watch a logia and get their weakenss i mean WTF they are only able to read swords and combat styles they could never do that with a force of nature).
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First of all shishio's swords can generate that much heat a super flame spinning around his infinite blade. Yes he would have a clue about crystalizing sand like I said Kenshin Characters are Highly Inteligent they have a superior intelect even to dumb one piece characeters, when it comes to elements or fighting he will kill Crocodile simple.
Ener does not have the same abilty as kenshin, kenshin's abilty to read and anticipate is far better than mantra. It's not an educated guess where the hell did you get that from? He tells you how strong the attack will be and how you are going to use it and even tell you it's weakness. you don't have to do anything but stand their kenshin is going to register it. "By STANDING THEIR ALONE HE CAN TELL YOU!!!
Please you said it doesn't matter how fast they are ha!. Kenshin is so fast Ener would not be able to see him and let alone have enough time to turn himself into pure energy. Ener won't even FEEL HIMSELF DIE!!!! Too fast for One piece Characters buddy.
I'am not blinded by fanboyism i really don't even like rurouni kenshin. My favorite anime of all time is THE GREATEST LEGEND of them all ALL DRAGONBALL Z!!! I just like to talk about these interesting battles!
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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I think OP would own, I havent seen much of Kenshin but I have seen a-lot of badass sceanes from one piece, so ya my vote goes to OP.
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The main characters (save probably Luffy) would be squashed by Kenshin, I think.
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Did you say that they were faster than lightning?
…wow.
Anyways, Enel would probably pwn them all--he can turn into lightning, restart his own heart, predict movements, the whole shebang. Unless you throw him into the ocean (unlikely), have a weapon of Seastone, or are made out of rubber like Luffy, you don't even have a chance of getting a hit in. (And have you seen how he smites people? That's about the area of a couple of houses he takes out, you know.)
In terms of stamina, Zoro (with an 'r', by the way) > Kenshin. I mean, he's probably lost a blood bank's worth of blood by now. During the fight with Mr. 1, he's half-dead and lifting whole buildings. Kenshin? He was out for a month after the whole Shishio thing. (Ignore the fact that RuroKen is more realistic than One Piece.)
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Listen Zoro could not even cut steel. it took zoro forever to cut steel. Zoro would be no match for kenshin, kenshin always could cut steel since he was a little boy training. Like I said Ener would not even touch kenshin too fast, their techniques that they execute in Rurouni Kenshin are faster than lighting (God Like Speed).
BeforeThe whole fight with Shishio, he fought Two Outstanding opponents that will kill everyone in One Piece Aoshi and Teken. Zoro fought Mr.1 and was completely exausted and lost alot of blood (A fight that Zoro should have lost). This shows me he can not handle one Zoro through outthe series always looses too much blood.
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your really not making sense you know that ?
the flames he can generate around his sword is no where near the heat required to crystalize sand and then just get it through your head yes they are really smart but their knowledge is highly limited since the lived in the meji era,now your just making stuff up have you even watched kenshin ?
cause most of that you just said is bullshit he only reads peoples movments and their emotions to try and get an idea of what hes going to do and then counter it its explained in the series i suggest you look it up he cant just stand there and find their weakness but yes he might work it out after fighting another swordsman for a while but as said this only works with swordsmen.whilst ener has the mantra thats 100% accurate, works on anybody and is far superior to the predictions of the hiten mitsurgi ryu.
once again you overestimate the kenshin guys they are crazy fast but Enel can change into electricy at the speed of though which is even faster than the kenshin guys and if they started to fight he would probably already be in his electric fom meaning that they cant touch him witout getting turned into a fried crisp.
and since you admit you dont even watch kenshin that much i suggest you listen to me cause that is my favorite series a show that i have watched over and over again and i think i have a pretty good idea of what they can and cant do.
EDIT oh and i dont see any need to continue this argument ive countered all your arguments and thats it for me,
hope i convinced you too but if not…...:banghead:
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Arguing that Enel can beat someone is a pointless and retarded argument. Please stop.
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i think most things that we discuss here are at AP are pretty pointless but still doesnt make them any less fun,
and to me ener is practicly invincibel so arguing that someone is able to beat him with just a sword is stupid to me.
but youll get your wish since ive decided to drop the argument.
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Well I already watched Rurouni Kenshin over a 100 times as well. Yes you are right i was just sugar coating a little, you know to add more spice to the confrontation. It seemed more fun to me anyway. I just know that rurouni kenshin is a good anime and wanted to talk about it aliitle more.
Ener is not invincible in one piece, Just to name a few Hawkeye, Shanks, and Smoker will kill Ener. Smoker has a Sword Made of Pure SEASTONE!!! plus is Logia fruit ability, wow Smoker will SMASH!!!! Ener. So will HAWKEYE, and SHANKS!!!!
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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how will a sword kill lightening the only way i kind think of is if Mihawk or shanks had something to nullfy the devil fruit and slash eneru… same goes to smoker!!
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Well I already watched Rurouni Kenshin over a 100 times as well. Yes you are right i was just sugar coating a little, you know to add more spice to the confrontation. It seemed more fun to me anyway. I just know that rurouni kenshin is a good anime and wanted to talk about it aliitle more.
Ener is not invincible in one piece, Just to name a few Hawkeye, Shanks, and Smoker will kill Ener. Smoker has a Sword Made of Pure SEASTONE!!! plus is Logia fruit ability, wow Smoker will SMASH!!!! Ener. So will HAWKEYE, and SHANKS!!!!
Smoker can probley beat him. But i think smoke conducts electriciry. And how do u figure zoro has NO endurance?
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Well, it depends on how he 'degrades' into smoke too. Smoke may conduct electricity, but unlike a human form, it doesn't matter if the electricity courses through it. If he can lay the sword into Eneru, won't it short his powers out?
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Well, it depends on how he 'degrades' into smoke too. Smoke may conduct electricity, but unlike a human form, it doesn't matter if the electricity courses through it. If he can lay the sword into Eneru, won't it short his powers out?
True, i never thought of that. We don't truly know the nature of smoker's smoke.
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Listen Seastone, I think Smoker's sword is made out of it. I am also guessing if Hawkeye's Sword is the Strongest in the world he also must have SEASTONE!!!! They will SMASH, STOMP, PANCAKE Ener because he is WEAK!!
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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he was unlucky to face luffy since hes rubber hes not weak.. he can defeat smoker but we never saw the true power of mihawk so we cant judge plus whats the use of seastone if you cant use it
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Listen Seastone, I think Smoker's sword is made out of it. I am also guessing if Hawkeye's Sword is the Strongest in the world he also must have SEASTONE!!!! They will SMASH, STOMP, PANCAKE Ener because he is WEAK!!
what makes you think hawk's sword is made of seastone?
If that is true I will lose all respect for the man.
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Oh come on…
Ener is PURE electricity... In One Manga chapter, a guy sliced a sword through Ener and the sword just stabbed through Ener and no blood came out... and that was a sword stabbed through ENER'S HEAD!!!
If a normal sword does not do any harm to Ener, I don't see how Kenshin's sword will be any different...
Same goes Smoker... Slicing through smoke with a sword will not really do anything...
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Smoker's Sword is made out of SEASTONE!!! their is a huge difference, plus with his logia fruit Smoker will SMASH Ener no CONTEST!!!
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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Listen Zoro could not even cut steel. it took zoro forever to cut steel. Zoro would be no match for kenshin, kenshin always could cut steel since he was a little boy training. Like I said Ener would not even touch kenshin too fast, their techniques that they execute in Rurouni Kenshin are faster than lighting (God Like Speed).
Why would matter that Zoro couldn't cut steel in the past? He can cut through it now, and that is what matters. And seriously, how many times has Kenshin cut steel? What once, in the OVA?
Zoro has no ENDURANCE!!
How on earth could you possibly argue this? Nobody in RuroKen has even shown close to what Zoro can do. I don't remember Kenshin, Aoshi, Sano or Enishi lifting and throwing buildings, cutting trains in half or anything of the sort.
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Smoker's Sword is made out of SEASTONE!!! their is a huge difference, plus with his logia fruit Smoker will SMASH Ener no CONTEST!!!
Realize that Enel's fruit is a Logia fruit too. And about endurance, here's something from thegrandline.com:
Zoro VS Buggy: 1 Liter
Zoro VS Nyaaban Brothers: 1.5 Liters
Zoro VS Mihawk: 3 Liters
Zoro VS Hacchan & Arlong: 5 LitersIt also mentions that the average human holds 5.6 liters of blood. And Who knows how much blood he lost during his Mr. 1 Fight. There is no way that kenshin could've lost that much blood.
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I was thinking about this and my brother's and I were arguing over this as well. One Piece vs.Rurouni Kenshin.I said that Rurouni kenshin would kick their butts. these are super human monsters with incredible ability they can also read opponents every move, predict what you're going to do before you even do it. they are just to strong for one piece. I just do not believe that One Piece characters have the skills nor the intelligence of fighting to match Rurouni kenshin Characters.
… They don't have the skills or intelligence for fighting One Piece characters?
Rurouni Kenshin (well Kenshin specifically and I guess Hiko) are the most overrated anime characters plain and simple. People take "God Speed" too literally, comparing different anime universes, Rurouni Kenshin isn't that "Overpowered."
Either way the One Piece characters win this easily.
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First of all How are Rurouni Kenshin Characters Overated?These characters have crazy ability have you even seen the anime.It's never overated, Kenshin will anticipate and know every move before you make it. Kenshin had already analyzed Teken's move while he was just standing their, now that's freakin amazing as he explains to Teken how he plans to use the the technique. Now that is ULTIMATE ANTICIPATION SKILLS!!.Hiko Sejuro is far from being overated, just look at what he can do it's freakin crazy ability not too mention the speed. For example Teken he has a Technique called Shen ten Sastu(may have spelled it wrong) That can REDUCE the earth because he's so fast. I doubt no one in One Piece can handle that awesome speed therefore Rurouni Kenshin smashes one piece easily!!
Please Ener is Overrated, Alot of people think he is the strongest One piece character, Please. Like I said just to name a few you have these characters who wil SMASH! Ener.Smoker - Logia Fruit abilty, Sword made out of Seastone. Shanks, Hawkeye, Blackebeard, Aokiji, and Whitebeard The Strongest Man In The World!!! period.
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as i can see so far, people dont wanna compare both mangas, which i also would do. both animes are too good to compare. i like the both equaly. but i if you were comparing one piece to a different anime, then thats a different story. and if you were comparing rouroni kenshin to a different anime, thats a different story as well.
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Well, you can't get much faster than the speed of light. Just saying, you know. I'm not debating whether people can beat Enel (Luffy did, others probably can), not if characters are overrated, or the quality of the manga in question. It just gets me that you think humans on foot can even break the sound barrier, let alone be faster than lightning. Yes, Soujirou (and it's Tenken, not Teken) can catch up to a moving, horse-drawn carriage. Yes, I've seen the anime (okay, I haven't watched the Feng Shui arc thing) and read the manga.
Off topic: I formed a theory a few days ago that Kenshin was a eunuch (explaining his slight build, underdeveloped voice and lack of facial hair), but then I remembered he has a kid. Damn. Maybe he just has other hormonal problems.
And if we're comparing different universes about fighting strength, then Dragonball Z would win. 'Cause, you know, most of the main characters have the ability to blow up the world. Compared to that, a little island up in the sky is nothing.
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Enel CAN defeat kenshin because he is pure electricity. Steel conducts electricity. Since swords are made of steel, if kenshin tried to cut Enel then he would just be shocked. Ener is pretty much immune to regular physical attacks.
Besides one of the appeals of Kenshin was its somewhat realism. No super crazy i destroy 3897489234 people with one single super energy beam aka dragon ball z.
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Phenomenol. I am amused by your multiple exclaimation marks!!! XD
