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      @Naruto:

      Lol I didn't know they were based on a folklore. I wonder what Kishi will do with them since I don't see how they will fit into Naruto unless they have something to do with the sage and the bijuu.

      I did some research and it looks like Togashi used them in Yu Yu hakusho.

      I dont remember them. Were they the 4 saint beasts in that early arc?

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        I dont remember them. Were they the 4 saint beasts in that early arc?

        Yes, that was them.

        The 4 Sacred Beasts of the compass have been used in countless anime, including, but not limited to…

        -Yu Yu Hakusho
        -Digimon
        -Cowboy Bebop
        -Fushigi Yuugi
        -Rurouni Kenshin

        and now, of course, Naruto.

        [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
        I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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          @HXHAlex:

          You are a writer Robby?

          Yeah. I've been in the industry for about 12 years. I write and color comics.

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          Lol I didn't know they were based on a folklore.

          Oh yeah, they're a huge part of japanese and chinese folklore.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Symbols_(Chinese_constellation)
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tortoise
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_Dragon
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Tiger_(Chinese_astronomy)
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermilion_Bird

          Jiraya, Orochimaru, and Tsunade (including their toad, snake and slug connections) is also based on a folktale, as are all the variations of the sharingan moveset like Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi. They pop up all the time in various media and go back thousands of years.

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            Let's not forget Kinkaku and Ginkaku and their weapons which were based on Journey to the West.

            [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
            I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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              @Nobodyman:

              Let's not forget Kinkaku and Ginkaku and their weapons which were based on Journey to the West.

              Who? I'm sorry, I'm sure I'd remember such important series defining characters.

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                Who? I'm sorry, I'm sure I'd remember such important series defining characters.

                Yeah, "Let's not forget" was probably a bad choice of words on my part. But hey, they made it so Tobi can summon the Juubi. That's important, right?

                At any rate, I wonder how much more Asian Folklore Kishi will try to hamfist in the (hopefully) short time Naruto has left.

                [And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
                I'll see you on the dark side of the moon]

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                  Well, since he already mined Journey to the West, he could always hit up Warriors of the Marsh, Three Kingdoms or Red Chamber Dream.

                  The 108 warriors of the marsh alone could expand this dead series for another 5 or 6 years. They could be a rival ninja clan from across the sea after Tobi is defeated. Or imagine a ninja version of Lu Bu! And the Battle of Red Cliffs!

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                    Speaking of Asian folklore,after Izanami,how many selectable gods does he have left for use as Sharingan asspull jutsus?

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                      @Sander:

                      Speaking of Asian folklore,after Izanami,how many selectable gods does he have left for use as Sharingan asspull jutsus?

                      There's Kagu-tsuchi, a fire god, who caused Izanami's death by burning her from the inside out when he was born. He was promptly beheaded by Izanagi, though, creating 8 volcanoes. Where his blood fell, numerous other gods came about.

                      I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.

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                        I bet that will be the "dark technique" upgrade Sasuke acquires.

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                          @Nobodyman:

                          Yes, that was them.

                          The 4 Sacred Beasts of the compass have been used in countless anime, including, but not limited to…

                          -Yu Yu Hakusho
                          -Digimon
                          -Cowboy Bebop
                          -Fushigi Yuugi
                          -Rurouni Kenshin

                          and now, of course, Naruto.

                          I remember seeing them appear in Digimon. It was pretty cool honestly. But knowing Kishimoto I might end up hating them. 😐
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                          The 108 warriors of the marsh alone could expand this dead series for another 5 or 6 years. They could be a rival ninja clan from across the sea after Tobi is defeated. Or imagine a ninja version of Lu Bu! And the Battle of Red Cliffs!

                          You know, when you say it like that it sounds neat and something I'd even enjoy. But then again- it's Kishimoto who's writing the story…
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                          I bet that will be the "dark technique" upgrade Sasuke acquires.

                          #agree
                          And I wouldn't be surprised if the technique was based on fire.

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                            @Nobodyman:

                            Yes, that was them.

                            The 4 Sacred Beasts of the compass have been used in countless anime, including, but not limited to…

                            -Yu Yu Hakusho
                            -Digimon
                            -Cowboy Bebop -Fushigi Yuugi
                            -Rurouni Kenshin

                            and now, of course, Naruto.

                            Woah,must've missed that.

                            Was someone named after them or suppose to symbolize them in some shape or form?

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                              @Sander:

                              Woah,must've missed that.

                              Was someone named after them or suppose to symbolize them in some shape or form?

                              In the episode where Jet meets the daughter of an old friend, they're used as a crucial clue to finding a location. Its the one with all the talk about Feng shui and finding directions. However, the original anime just assumes everyone knows what the directions gods are and doesn't explain it at all, so the dub doesn't explain it either and its completely glossed over.

                              It's pretty much lost on the English audience.

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                                There's Kagu-tsuchi, a fire god, who caused Izanami's death by burning her from the inside out when he was born. He was promptly beheaded by Izanagi, though, creating 8 volcanoes. Where his blood fell, numerous other gods came about.

                                … Isn't Kagutsuchi the technique Sasuke used to control Amaterasu? That is his secong Mangekyo technique instead of Tsukuyomi.

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                                  @RobbyBevard:

                                  However, the original anime just assumes everyone knows what the directions gods are and doesn't explain it at all, so the dub doesn't explain it either and its completely glossed over.

                                  It's pretty much lost on the English audience.

                                  And the fact that I found that particular episode ucharacteristically dull and was thus more likely to forget it's details than those of other episodes certainly didn't help.

                                  No wonder that I couldn't make the connection.

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                                  I wish Naruto had a "FUCK YEAH!NINJA!!" fight scene like this:

                                  ! This is an end-boss fight from Dagger of Kamui,so if you're planning on watching that movie,then yeah,spoilers below.

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                                    @Nobodyman:

                                    Yes, that was them.

                                    The 4 Sacred Beasts of the compass have been used in countless anime, including, but not limited to…

                                    -Yu Yu Hakusho
                                    -Digimon
                                    -Cowboy Bebop
                                    -Fushigi Yuugi
                                    -Rurouni Kenshin

                                    and now, of course, Naruto.

                                    Isn't Toriko also kinda going that route too?

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                                      No, the four beasts in Toriko have nothing to do with the sacred beasts

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                                        Where is Rock Lee anyway? He should have been surpassed Gai this time and that would have make him a Hokage level ninja. Did we see him in war by the way?

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                                          @Myu:

                                          Where is Rock Lee anyway? He should have been surpassed Gai this time and that would have make him a Hokage level ninja. Did we see him in war by the way?

                                          We did, along with Gai, and both of them were completely useless.
                                          Now Gai is gettin' in on the action, but Lee is nowhere to be seen.

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                                            @RobbyBevard:

                                            Or imagine a ninja version of Lu Bu!

                                            Really strong and dumb as a bag of hammers? Kishimoto's already done that several times over.

                                            Complicating things since 2009.

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                                              Japanese Hank Hill: Well I be darn. My boy, a ninja.

                                              (Bobby shows up with a headband)

                                              Japanese Bobby Hill: Look I'm already in my ninja outfit.

                                              Japanese Hank Hill: But Japanese Bobby, those are your normal cloths but with your Gosh darn Nardo headband.

                                              Japanese Bobby Hill: But that's my ninja outfit, and for your information it's Naruto.

                                              Japanese Hank Hill: Dang it Japanese Bobby, I thought I told you to stay away from that crap. It's a terrible "interpretation" of our culture. Just for disobeying me, I am grounding you.

                                              Japanese Bobby Hill: But dad, me and Japanese Joseph were going to play Bleach.

                                              Japanese Hank Hill: Dang it Japanese Bobby, I thought I told you to stay away from that too.

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                                                Naruto is out: http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Naruto/Naruto-593/ http://www.mangapanda.com/

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                                                  More putrid dialogue spewed by an ignorant, petulant child.

                                                  Oh, and Orochimaru's still a pedophile…

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                                                    Naruto

                                                    ! So the cursed seals are horcruxes after all as theorized.
                                                    ! They're also confirmed to be a type of senjutsu, which I think makes sense given the similarities with the transformations, though I have no idea if this was actually planned all along or just a retcon.
                                                    ! I have no idea where Sasuke is going and who he wants to meet. My biggest question is will this take up a lot of time, and will the war just be happening while Sasuke and co. are journeying.

                                                    And who's excited for Bleach's 500th chapter?

                                                    Originally Posted by Nightwing

                                                    Stay focused, cause right now you have a decision to make. Are you a man perpetually looking back at what he’s lost, or a man looking forward, to what he might become?

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                                                      @Gizmo:

                                                      And who's excited for Bleach's 500th chapter?

                                                      My excitement is at Byakuya-level.

                                                      I wonder how many attacks from behind or dumbstruck expressions this hallowed chapter will have…

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                                                        wait so oro can use the dragon sage now that he absorbed his chakra inside Kabuto?

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                                                          I thought it was OK. Don't think the Juins being like Horcuxes was every hinted at, but I guess it sort of makes sense. Could've been done better, like Sasuke could've copied Edo Tensei with his Sharingan and used that to revive Orochimaru. Really curious to see who they're going to, so I hope the story sticks with them for now, instead of going to Naruto or the Kages.

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                                                            Is Kishimoto's master plan to spend so much time on Sasuke that people are actually happy to see Naruto bail everyone out for once?

                                                            Hang in there, Kierkegaard.

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                                                              That was a horrible chapter, filled with bs *sspulls.

                                                              This is becoming worse than felch.

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                                                                So, blech is out now, and it's such a lame chapter that mangapanda even left an unclean raw page in.

                                                                As for the actual chapter, the shinigami are now turning on each other for no apparent reason. Also, the sword at the end is obviously Grimmjow's, whom we have to thank for finally shutting Opie up…

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                                                                  http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/500/10 On the one hand, Jidanbou exists again. On the other, he's apparently mind controled, so…..

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                                                                  http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/500/17 Well isn't this just the cutest widdle ratings grab.

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                                                                    @Deviant_Mugen:

                                                                    So, blech is out now, and it's such a lame chapter that mangapanda even left an unclean raw page in.

                                                                    As for the actual chapter, the shinigami are now turning on each other for no apparent reason. Also, the sword at the end is obviously Grimmjow's, whom we have to thank for finally shutting Opie up…

                                                                    You on the Grimmjow bandwagon as well? what are your clues for him coming back? (and did he have a sword? lol, forgot almost everything from that arc xD).
                                                                    And maybe there´s a Quincy whose specialty is control or something - that way he can manipulate people?

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                                                                      http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/500/13

                                                                      This page has more dialogue than an average Bleach volume, what the hell

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                                                                        So, bleach was horrible as well.

                                                                        First, why were the transmitter swords never mentioned before. Thats once again bs *sspull right there.

                                                                        Also, if they can have advanced computers there, why are there no phones ?? This just goes to show how under-developed the Bleachverse is. Even after 500 chapters.

                                                                        Also, the SS really have been reduced to fodder, everyone is depending on Ichigo now.

                                                                        Finally, Kirge is killed, only why didn't Kubo just let him die the last chapter, if it doesn't change anything. No doubt, Ichigo will probably leave for SS once again, so what was the point of that.

                                                                        I take my previous statement back, both Naruto and Bleach are equally horrible.

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                                                                          Now wait for Rukia to fall on her knees and cry to Ichigo to come and save them all :maybe

                                                                          Does that remind you anything?

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                                                                            Naruto - As much as I like Orochimaru as a villain, I see no point of him being there except stalling the plot, regardless of how important the thing is what Sasuke wants to know/do. Sasuke's wish to take revenge makes no sense as always. Sort of really mediocre.

                                                                            Bleach - http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/500/13

                                                                            Attack of the speech bubbles.

                                                                            Let's see, most of the chapter was stalling, Ichigo is still stuck in that cage, Kirge died(maybe), some character with Urahara and then some mid-controlled character in the science division, nothing too terrible, but a lot of filler, so meh chapter.

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                                                                              You on the Grimmjow bandwagon as well? what are your clues for him coming back? (and did he have a sword? lol, forgot almost everything from that arc xD).

                                                                              They weren't called Espada for nothing. Grimmjow was okay, and my reasons for thinking it's him in the last panel is because they're in Hueco Mundo and his fate was never revealed to us after Nnoitra shoved him out of the way with his ridiculous weapon.

                                                                              Also, as No Maam said, kubo's got to do something to keep the ratings from plummeting (any further)…

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                                                                                So, two more bad chapters. Hurray!

                                                                                Eh, fuck it.

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                                                                                  Well what should I write… 2 really bad chapters and it seems like Kubo and Kishimoto just don't give a f*ck.

                                                                                  Well I guess this current Naruto arc is one of the worst arcs I've ever seen. The whole manga is just ridiculous. I can't understand why so many people support this shit.

                                                                                  I guess this pic describes says a lot about this chapter/arc...

                                                                                  ….well and Bleach... just horrible and I think the Bottom 5 in the ToC is the right place for this piece of crap that Kubo gives us now.

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                                                                                    so basically instead of added the last page of this bleach chapter to the end of previews chapter we have a chapter full of nothing. Glad to see bleach hasnt lost its touch. Oh and its Aizen ofc:ninja:

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                                                                                      Read Bleach.

                                                                                      Nothing too bad, it just seemed fillerish. What exactly was Ichigo attacking in the Dangai World, by the way?

                                                                                      Kubo's literal wall of text (where Ichigo heard everyone's thoughts) was just plain lol…..though I wonder who the unknown figure is.

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                                                                                        Grimmjow owned that Quincy lol!

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                                                                                          Grimmjow owned that Quincy lol!

                                                                                          Uh, we don't know that it's him.

                                                                                          ….Though there aren't many possible choices.

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                                                                                            They weren't called Espada for nothing. Grimmjow was okay, and my reasons for thinking it's him in the last panel is because they're in Hueco Mundo and his fate was never revealed to us after Nnoitra shoved him out of the way with his ridiculous weapon.

                                                                                            Also, as No Maam said, kubo's got to do something to keep the ratings from plummeting (any further)…

                                                                                            Good, that kinda makes sense. It´s just that there´s one Grimmjow fanboy over at NF who´s all for this theory as well 😄
                                                                                            And I don´t know why the ratings are that bad for Bleach atm, this arc is waaaay better than anything since…dunno...SS Arc? 😛

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                                                                                              Uh, we don't know that it's him.

                                                                                              ….Though there aren't many possible choices.

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                                                                                                The answer to why the ratings are in the shitter is simple: because kubo's writing is shit…

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                                                                                                  What?!? You mean Kubo will bring a popular character out of nowhere to save his ratings?!?

                                                                                                  Really how many interviews did Kubo did telling Grimmjow was either alive or dead?

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                                                                                                  • No Maam
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                                                                                                    It could be a random new character. So far there's realy nothing to realy base any assumptions on.

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                                                                                                      The last thing blech needs right now is more new characters…

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                                                                                                        It's Aizen .

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