Magi

Enzeru

@Enzeru:

You might want to use Google to find those names before hitting that 'send' button. Not trying to be mean here; just a friendly advice.

Certainly, usually it's difficult to guess a djinn's type of magic by its dungeon's appearance alone, but sometimes it does work (Zagan for example). And since we still haven't seen everything in Valefor's dungeon, there might be an indicator at some point.

Gyokuen? Let me try to remember the timeline a bit… Sinbad captured Valefor's dungeon when he was 15. Now he's 31, meaning all of that happened 16 years ago. Hakuryuu was 2 back then, with his mother- Gyokuen- still present. Therefore it's very, very unlikely for Gyokuen to have been part of Ja'far's clan.

I thought I was still on your ignore list.

I somehow forgot the plot with the first emperor marrying Gyokuen long ago. I am surely wrong about her being Gyokuen then. But they must be a reason why she is that great of a magician(I remember Gaming having to make quite some preparation before she could make that mirror ). Maybe Al-Tharmen investigating and manipulating the country like with Balbaad.

Their group of assassin is quite good anyway. I wonder what became of them.

For the google proposition I am on my phone most of the time and his internet connection sucks.

I'm a huge Magi fan with no one to talk to about the manga; at least not on the level I'd like. I take what I can get.

Also, Gaming=Yamuraiha?

desa

@Enzeru:

I'm a huge Magi fan with no one to talk to about the manga; at least not on the level I'd like. I take what I can get.

Also, Gaming=Yamuraiha?

Yes. Auto-correct at work.

x20a

The episode was decent… again, it lacked something special though...

xxjoshxx

Wasn't Aladdin's Halhal Infigar supposed to hit a mountain and explode, it seems they're making changes in this season as well.

Enzeru

The quality of the anime's decreasing again, but that was to be expected. And it's not that they're adding retarded filler or anything. It's just the soulless way of adapting A-1 choose to go with for Magi. Makes you think the director's dead inside.

On another note- got my volume 20, Sinbad 2, and the character book today. It's a shame that there wasn't any other djinn equip on the back of the volume like it was the case for its predecessor. The character book is okay. From what I've seen, it does confirm things like which djinn resides in which piece of Sinbad's jewelry, but nothing too major. One can tell that there barely was any new content, and that someone else compiled all the data without a doubt.

edit: sorry at those of you who were expecting a chapter link here. It looks like Monday's become the new release day, so prepare to change your schedule accordingly.

phoenix_fire

@Enzeru:

edit: sorry at those of you who were expecting a chapter link here. It looks like Monday's become the new release day, so prepare to change your schedule accordingly.

Any explanation, why it constantly gets pushed back? First it was to late Sunday, then early Monday, now maybe not even Monday anymore. (Local time of course)

I kind of lost interest since the war, its surely nothing bad and its above mediocre, but somehow it fails to deliver on the potential that it once had. Still, in general, I thought that Magi has a fairly large fanbase and is well-liked enough, so it feels strange that scanlators dont seem to care too much anymore.

Enzeru

@phoenix_fire:

Any explanation, why it constantly gets pushed back? First it was to late Sunday, then early Monday, now maybe not even Monday anymore. (Local time of course)

I kind of lost interest since the war, its surely nothing bad and its above mediocre, but somehow it fails to deliver on the potential that it once had. Still, in general, I thought that Magi has a fairly large fanbase and is well-liked enough, so it feels strange that scanlators dont seem to care too much anymore.

I wish I could tell you. Last I heard it was because sense-scans didn't have enough staff, which they apparently have now, but it's still inconsistent as fuck and gets released whenever. I understand that they too have their own lives, but at least let the waiting fans know that there won't be a release on that particular day. At any rate, I'm not going to their website anymore cause they simply don't deserve the ad revenue. I'll just wait for the chapter to be released on batoto until they change their attitude.

Somewhere

Perhaps they've hit a period of being understaffed and are stretching out people? They do look like they're recruiting in general.

Like a lesser version of Casanova falling behind on Souma by a week or so due to running out of cleaners/redrawers. (they've since caught back up)

Silverblade

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate the sense of entitlement the scanlation audience possesses? Because I fucking do.

No wish for a debate on legal issues here, so I will keep this short. Any group scanlating a popular and more importantly legally released manga work under a permanent risk of receiving a C&D letter from the official publisher. Sense Scans do everything they can so as not to draw the attention of Viz who officially release Magi in English and represent Shogakukan, Magi's original publisher: they insert official distributor links, they delete download links of already published volumes, and they push the release date closer to the official Japanese one. And, as you already now, Weekly Shonen Sunday goes on sale on Wednesdays.

So how about instead of talking attitudes you listen to this beautiful world's smallest violin concerto.

Sander

@Silverblade:

So how about instead of talking attitudes you listen to this beautiful world's smallest violin concerto.

I was unfamiliar with that saying and, for a second there, actually expected an embedded video to appear.

Enzeru

@Silverblade:

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate the sense of entitlement the scanlation audience possesses? Because I fucking do.

No wish for a debate on legal issues here, so I will keep this short. Any group scanlating a popular and more importantly legally released manga work under a permanent risk of receiving a C&D letter from the official publisher. Sense Scans do everything they can so as not to draw the attention of Viz who officially release Magi in English and represent Shogakukan, Magi's original publisher: they insert official distributor links, they delete download links of already published volumes, and they push the release date closer to the official Japanese one. And, as you already now, Weekly Shonen Sunday goes on sale on Wednesdays.

So how about instead of talking attitudes you listen to this beautiful world's smallest violin concerto.

I like you, Silver, so I too don't want this to turn ugly.
All those nice words of you would seem a lot more legit if sense didn't have ads (literally) left and right. Many scanlators out there are at constant risk of getting that fun letter you mention, but continue to publish the chapters. Coincidentally they too have ads running on their various websites, so… you see where I'm going with this. sense-scans isn't the dark hero here, selflessly sacrificing their time for the sake of the community. But let me repeat it- let's not turn this into something unnecessary.

x20a

IT'S OUT: http://reader.sensescans.com/reader/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/15/214/page/1

desa

@x20a:

IT'S OUT: http://reader.sensescans.com/reader/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/15/214/page/1

FINALLY!!! Time for some reading.

Cyclone_Baroness

Lmao. Are Seishuu's hair snakes staring at pig guy too?

Oh man. This is a really great start!

desa

-Sinbad seems to be aware of the stars being planets and Alladin is knowledgeable to be able to confirm Sinbad being right.
-Some alternate world stuff with Alladin as professor.
-Funny how much more we know about this world than the characters at the submit. It really is a funny thing to see in Balbaad arc with sinbad.
-I like how we actually see the protagonists react to what alladin is saying rather than conveniently wait for him to finish talking.
-So Magi has now his Sage of the 6 paths. It must be strange for Sinbad to hear about someone way more baddass than him. Just remember his reaction when Alladin didn't recognize him.
-The new world create by Solomon reminded me of the magic world being created by this super magician in Mahousensei Negima.
-So Alladin was actually born in Alama Toran? I thought he was from the sacred palace. Anyway I agree with him that must of those present should be able to handle the truth and not get a mental breakdown. Not sure for Alibaba or some finalis depending on what is revealed.
-I like the concept of many highly intelligent species. And the human race as a true underdog( no we counter brute strength with intellect).
-So we are about to discover the ultimate hax character life and how he bringed humanity to the top with his three companions. This smell trouble for the other races.
-We'll surely get some djinn stuff since they were mentioned and Kouen commented on the races givingthe same aura as household vessels.

I'm super hyped for the story.

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Snake due was funny when he looked at the guy because of the pigs.

Kizuchan

Hmm, so it seems the series went with an other world idea, fine by me. Some nice exposition regarding the world this chapter overall.

xxjoshxx

I hope Judar makes an entrance at some point during this arc in his usual spectacular fashion.

fana

@Enzeru:

All those nice words of you would seem a lot more legit if sense didn't have ads (literally) left and right.

I think you overestimate the money such website can earn with ads. I'd be surprised if the ads are enough to cover the server cost and the HQ raw providers which can be quite expensive these days.

kouch_lee

Great chapters, left me wanting more! Gooood stuff.

Two questions, though, if someone could answer them:

1- Wasn't it somewhat implied in the past that Aladdin is Solomon's avatar? But here Aladdin is clearly saying that Solomon "told him" all that stuff, thus being different beings. I might be mixing things up.

2- Did Aladdin just straight up ignore the Fanalis in here? They're not really humans, they're intelligent beings and they're part of the current world. Hell, even Mu seems a bit offended, lol.

EA575

This chapter. It's so moist

I'm surprised and excited it's gonna be a whole arc instead of just a couple of chapters

Hnikarr

Given that Aladdin considers the humans as the only intelligent race in the world, I suppose he doesn't know the true nature of fanalis, yet, while Yunan does (and we have a panel with Yunan soon after the panel with the unhappy Muu). Or maybe he is just a racist. :ninja:
Besides, if I remember correcty, Kougyoku said that she would have attended at the meeting, too, but for now I can't see her: maybe Alibaba had a talk with Kouen, after all, or maybe she was talking about some other meeting. And, speaking of Kouen, I bet he'll have to go changing his drawers, before the end of the talk about Alma Toran, at least judging by his expressions…

Smiley

@EA575:

This chapter. It's so moist
http://i.imgur.com/fYcmvhp.png
I'm surprised and excited it's gonna be a whole arc instead of just a couple of chapters

lol he is totally thinking in conquering the other worlds.

desa

@kouch_lee:

Great chapters, left me wanting more! Gooood stuff.

Two questions, though, if someone could answer them:

1- Wasn't it somewhat implied in the past that Aladdin is Solomon's avatar? But here Aladdin is clearly saying that Solomon "told him" all that stuff, thus being different beings. I might be mixing things up.

2- Did Aladdin just straight up ignore the Fanalis in here? They're not really humans, they're intelligent beings and they're part of the current world. Hell, even Mu seems a bit offended, lol.

1-I think he was called the reincarnation of the great king by the the djinns of Kouen. But Alladin could have received the knowledge of Solomon plus some rules.
2- They are human on this side of the rift.

maxterdexter

@kouch_lee:

2- Did Aladdin just straight up ignore the Fanalis in here? They're not really humans, they're intelligent beings and they're part of the current world. Hell, even Mu seems a bit offended, lol.

Aladdin might just not know, but Mu is putting 2+2 together.

Somewhere

Kouen loooooves knowledge.

I like to imagine that they're viewing this as some magic analog to a hologram.

Gatekeeper

So is it safe to assume that the Fanalis are the left over "intelligent creatures" from Alma Toran? Or am I being delusional?

desa

@Gatekeeper:

So is it safe to assume that the Fanalis are the left over "intelligent creatures" from Alma Toran? Or am I being delusional?

I would they were either the only one to survive to Solomon purge or they are the remaining of the intelligent being of this world.Maybe with His magic Solomon bound each race to an household and that's why he had 72 household. And the finalis manage to escape this faith even creating their own side of the rift so they wouldn't be bound by the world created by Solomon.

x20a

Now that everyone has read the chapter and I've had time to digest all the information, there are somethings that I found to be pretty important in this chapter.

The distinction between Alma Toran being a different planet and a mirror world explains the shift between worlds when Dungeon Divers enter the Dungeons found on Alma Toran
The mirror world explains how Solomon created a new world through magic
The Djinn and Dungeons are linked to the other societies in Alma Toran
Solomon wasn't trying to just unite Humans, but all lifeforms on Alma Toran
Alma Toran's "Father" was another one of these lifeforms, and possibly the God of Alma Toran given his ability to destroy the world

@kouch_lee:

Great chapters, left me wanting more! Gooood stuff.

Two questions, though, if someone could answer them:

1- Wasn't it somewhat implied in the past that Aladdin is Solomon's avatar? But here Aladdin is clearly saying that Solomon "told him" all that stuff, thus being different beings. I might be mixing things up.

2- Did Aladdin just straight up ignore the Fanalis in here? They're not really humans, they're intelligent beings and they're part of the current world. Hell, even Mu seems a bit offended, lol.

Aladdin is Solomon's "Proxy", meaning he is Solomon's representative (by definition of the word) in the new world that Solomon made. Aladdin is by no means Solomon himself, otherwise he would've been able to control Ugo-Kun – who himself said that although Aladdin has his Master (Solomon)'s powers, he himself is not actually Solomon (indicating Solomon is alive and well within the Rukh).

We don't know where the Fanalis are from, and Aladdin is not shown to know that Fanalis aren't in fact "human". If Solomon created this world as a reflection of his own, then the Fanalis could be the inhabitants of the world before Solomon laid his rukh on top of it. The answers for this issue will be given later in the upcoming Alma Toran arc so we'll see.

desa

Pretty sure Solomon is dead and that father isn't from Alma-Toran(The planet). He was probably either a Galactus or a black hole version magi.

Theory time.

Solomon found a way to transformed those beings into humans (or kill them) which involved one household becoming the representative of one race(so I expect 72 or 73 intellectual races). The finalis manage to avoid that faith (probably thanks to their own magic) but once Alma Toran was in the verge of collapsing they were forced to move to Solomon's world to not get destroy. But because it was Solomon's world they were force to transformed to human. To not be force to do it they use their common power to create the other side of the rift.

TheGreatestSwordsman

So without spoilers, how is the manga so far in the story? Just as good, better, or a bit downhill? I'm a massive fan of the anime.

xxjoshxx

@TheGreatestSwordsman:

So without spoilers, how is the manga so far in the story? Just as good, better, or a bit downhill? I'm a massive fan of the anime.

Where are you currently in the manga?

Bigivel

I just hope we have a 2-3 volume of Solomon arc! That would be great(and if well made maybe more).

Sander

@Hnikarr:

Or maybe he is just a racist. :ninja:

-"Aladdin! I could never imagine you were such a racist!"
-"Hey, Muu, I'm no racist! I have a Fanalis friend."

TheGreatestSwordsman

@xxjoshxx:

Where are you currently in the manga?

Anime only. Manga tends to ruin the anime for a lot of series I feel, so I'm unsure whether I want to read it. I'm just curious as whether the store is as strong as it currently is in the anime a bit into the future.

Sythus

@TheGreatestSwordsman:

So without spoilers, how is the manga so far in the story? Just as good, better, or a bit downhill? I'm a massive fan of the anime.

I'd like to ask about the anime I'm thinking of giving it a go. Is it good?

xxjoshxx

@TheGreatestSwordsman:

Anime only. Manga tends to ruin the anime for a lot of series I feel, so I'm unsure whether I want to read it. I'm just curious as whether the store is as strong as it currently is in the anime a bit into the future.

Well the story picks up pace soon and there's a lot of plot that gets revealed, right now a new arc is beginning, but it's looking very interesting.

TheGreatestSwordsman

@Sythus:

I'd like to ask about the anime I'm thinking of giving it a go. Is it good?

Do it right this second. It's one of my favorite 3 animes that are currently running at the moment.

@xxjoshxx:

Well the story picks up pace soon and there's a lot of plot that gets revealed, right now a new arc is beginning, but it's looking very interesting.

Good to know, cheers.

Sythus

@TheGreatestSwordsman:

Do it right this second. It's one of my favorite 3 animes that are currently running at the moment.

Alright, cheers! I'll definitely give it a go then.

G.A.G

Did someone see that?

http://reader.sensescans.com/reader/read/adventure_of_sinbad/en/3/20/page/1

KaizokuJinbei

! So if this is going the way I think it's going this world was created by solomon to bring humanity into to survive

King Cannon

I totally thought Star Wolf in that last page.

desa

I wonder if anyone in Sinbad's household knows magoi manipulation? Since Jafar don't I don't think so.

A magi should learn magoi manipulation.

Sinbad's Adventures.

I had to go back jack to remember there was a Swordsman with Jafar's troupe.
Sinbad sure like to mess around with Drakon.
Hinahoho(?) sure is a scared guy. This isn't the way he'll gain the confidence necessary to wield his man's clothes.
Sinbad is keeping up with Jafar with simply swordsplay. I expected better from Jafar.
I wonder how Sinbad is getting out of here.

KaizokuJinbei

I'm willing to bet alibaba will eventually learn magoi manipulation

desa

@KaizokuJinbei:

I'm willing to bet alibaba will eventually learn magoi manipulation

He learnt it and isn't a magi.

KaizokuJinbei

@desa:

He learnt it and isn't a magi.

ah right at the gladiator arena part. well you asked if anyone besides sinbad knew it

desa

@KaizokuJinbei:

ah right at the gladiator arena part. well you asked if anyone besides sinbad knew it

I meant in the generals(Hakuryuu know is too). I'm gonna correct.

x20a

@desa:

I wonder if anyone besides Sinbad knows magoi manipulation? Since Jafar don't I don't think so.

A magi should learn magoi manipulation.

Everyone who uses magoi knows magoi manuipulation. Every household vessel user, every metal vessel user, every magician, magi, etc. Sinbad and Alibaba just happened to have irregular magoi (Sinbad is half fallen and Alibaba had Cassim's magoi in him) which is why they needed to meet the tribe and fix their irregularities.

xxjoshxx

@x20a:

Everyone who uses magoi knows magoi manuipulation. Every household vessel user, every metal vessel user, every magician, magi, etc. Sinbad and Alibaba just happened to have irregular magoi (Sinbad is half fallen and Alibaba had Cassim's magoi in him) which is why they needed to meet the tribe and fix their irregularities.

That's not the case, it's not really even that common and before Alibaba trained in Reim he couldn't use it. None of Sinbad's generals have shown the ability to do so in times when they would if they could. Not to mention all the magicians that have so far shown no magoi manipulation ability.

desa

@x20a:

Everyone who uses magoi knows magoi manuipulation. Every household vessel user, every metal vessel user, every magician, magi, etc. Sinbad and Alibaba just happened to have irregular magoi (Sinbad is half fallen and Alibaba had Cassim's magoi in him) which is why they needed to meet the tribe and fix their irregularities.

This isn't the case, the magoi manipulation is the technique use to coat or infuse your magoi in what you want. The only one to showcase this ability and weren't from the tribe are Hakuryuu , Sinbad and Alibaba. All three were trained by the tribe.

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http://mangafox.me/manga/magi_labyrinth_of_magic/v06/c054/8.htmlFrom that I suppose at least three or four of the dungeons Sinbad conquered were raised by Judal.

x20a

@xxjoshxx:

That's not the case, it's not really even that common and before Alibaba trained in Reim he couldn't use it. None of Sinbad's generals have shown the ability to do so in times when they would if they could. Not to mention all the magicians that have so far shown no magoi manipulation ability.

@desa:

This isn't the case, the magoi manipulation is the technique use to coat or infuse your magoi in what you want. The only one to showcase this ability and weren't from the tribe are Hakuryuu , Sinbad and Alibaba. All three were trained by the tribe.

Magoi Manipulation simply means manipulating the rukh in your body and turning it into energy (magoi) with your body – similar to ki, nen, etc. By doing so, they can use magic. Side effects of using too much magoi include exhaustion, bleeding nerve endings, shortening lifespan, and death.

All magicians are naturally born with the ability to manipulate magoi, which allows them to use the different types of magic. They don't have to "learn" how to manipulate magoi since they do it unconsciously.

Magi are loved by the rukh, so they can use unlimited magoi and can manipulate it better than anyone else.

While only Sinbad, Alibaba and Hakuryuu have shown to use the specific magoi manipulation you guys are talking about, it actually doesn't amount to much. Sinbad and Alibaba had to learn it because they had irregularities in their rukh that hindered their ability to use magoi like other humans (Sinbad had white and black rukh from a curse, and Alibaba had his and Cassim rukh which was tearing his body apart), thereby preventing them from Djinn Equipping properly. Hakuryuu on the other hand needed magoi manipulation because he had no metal vessel, and thus relied on a magoi imbued weapon like the Yambala Tribe.

No one else had to "learn" magoi manipulation like Sinbad, Alibaba and Hakuryuu did because they had no reason too -- no one else had irregular rukh or were as weak as Hakuryuu. Everyone who has a metal vessel, household vessel, or magic item has to, by virtue of the weapon, learn to manipulate their magoi to use the magic through household vessels and/or djinn equips (like Sinbad taught Alibaba during the Balbadd arc). That's why none of the generals had to use the same skills Sinbad did, considering they only have white rukh and use it with their household vessels to use their magic skills (and Yamu as a magician had no need to learn it because she's a magician). Likewise, Mor was freely manipulating her magoi in Zagan's tower against the mobs through her household vessel, which led her to becoming sick from magoi depletion.