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    • KatanaJon1.1
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      This is about Water 7.

      We all know that CP9 are agents of the World Government, and the villians of this arc. However, Oda told us that before we even landed on W7.

      Chapter 323. (From Stephen's site)

      Nami: Here we go, then!
      Thanks for all the info, Cocoro and Chimney!!

      Luffy: Prepare to sail, boys!!

      Crew: YEAH!!!

      Chimney: Take care!!

      Cocoro: Look out fer them government officials!!

      Don't you just love that? It pays to reread.

      Has anybody else found other examples such as this?

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        The mysterious Skypiea shipwright…nuff said

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          Yeah, there was a lot of foreshadowing about Merry. That reminds me, someone on another forum actually brought up a topic asking if ships in One Piece have souls, entirely based on the scenes in Syrup Vilage where the Kuroneko's mast gets a sweatdrop, and when Merry sweatdropped when Mohji was attempting to burn the ship.😁

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            There's something else. When Usopp got his dials, he mentioned something about what he could do with his hammer. So Im expecting him to pull out an impact hammer or something when he fights CP9. Thats what I love about Oda, no matter how miniscule he mentions something, it pretty much means its going to happen.

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              Yes, he also mentioned upgrading Nami's clima-tact with the dials, and he did. 🙂

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                wow i got to give it to the one piece''s elite five analyzers

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                  @CosmicDebris:

                  Yeah, there was a lot of foreshadowing about Merry. That reminds me, someone on another forum actually brought up a topic asking if ships in One Piece have souls, entirely based on the scenes in Syrup Vilage where the Kuroneko's mast gets a sweatdrop, and when Merry sweatdropped when Mohji was attempting to burn the ship.😁

                  Not forgetting the part where Merry seemed to be crying when Luffy and Usopp were fighting.

                  As for the sweat drops, I think they were just there for some comical effects.

                  P.S.: I fixed the signatures of hanlesky and TheTalentedMr.Sanji and the both of you also did not enable PMs.

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                    This is very obvious but I've always liked it:

                    Aokiji: The governments aren't taking you all too seriously yet…
                    But when you get down to the grit, you've got a tough crew here.
                    Even with your small number,
                    given the kind of manpower we're dealing with,
                    you're going to be a big problem, in the future.

                    I don't know why I've always liked that, but the governement won't consider them a big problem unless they are threating them, like they are doing now.

                    This is interesting:

                    Aokiji: The most dangerous out of all of your crew…
                    is you.
                    Nico Robin.

                    And it is not Robin causing all the trouble.

                    How would the government react to this? Spandam is already furious about it.
                    And it is funny that Aokiji was about to kill them but he didn't get a chance. Too late now.

                    The quotes are from Stephen's site.

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                      One of the earliest foreshadowing:
                      Nami stating that she likes money and orange. Who would've thought that oranges have such sentimental value? ;_;

                      And of course, the fact that she never wears sleeveless shirts when around the guys; a killer-tattoo beneath.

                      Also, Usopp's lies involving the giant goldfish and mole led to the appearance of Shima Kui (Island Eater) in Little Garden and Miss Merry Christmas in Arabasta. Wow!

                      Also, ever since Robin (as Miss All Sunday) questioned the intention of the "D", she gained more depth and can no longer be seen as just "Croc's uber hot ass-kicking partner." Her historical knowledge made her a key character in the entire series, but how can Oda develop her character effectively?

                      By making her a Mugiwara nakama. W00t!

                      But still, the most prominent foreshadowing is the Klabautermann. ;_;

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                        I think some of the attack of CP9: Calipha when hit Iceburg in the face with a sort of rankyaku, Lucci fingering the ground for shigan, kaku blocking rufy, soru and jumping in the sky, geppou.

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                          As for the sweat drops, I think they were just there for some comical effects.

                          I think so too, but who's to say there wasn't any foreshadowing in that. I just thought it was intersting that someone who had just seen those episodes and nothing beyond came up with that conclusion.

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                            I´m hoping that the Jinbei thing is going to be the biggest foreshadowing piece. What I´m refering to isn´t mentioned in the anime but just in the manga. It´s the part where Yosaku says that he skips all the complicated fighting story and straight gets to the point. 😉

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                              @changsho:

                              And of course, the fact that she never wears sleeveless shirts when around the guys; a killer-tattoo beneath.

                              Sort of related; I noticed that in American volume 6, the cover page illustration (they're all dressed in Sanji-style waiter suits) does show her with a tattoo visible– but it's NOT the swirled-fish she reveals later (according to the dub), or the pinwheel. It looks like the swirled fish WITH crossbones. What's that about? Not only is it a potential spoiler, but isn't it wrong?

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                                It was the japanese cover as well, and I don't think it holds any relevance. To me, it looks like the mugiwara flag.

                                Back on topic:
                                All the 4 exceptionally strange people in Mock town, whom you think are just there to show what type of place it is, turns out to be Blackbeard and his Crew.

                                Spandam as head of CP9.

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                                  @einthedog:

                                  I think some of the attack of CP9: Calipha when hit Iceburg in the face with a sort of rankyaku, Lucci fingering the ground for shigan, kaku blocking rufy, soru and jumping in the sky, geppou.

                                  Rankyaku is making a wind slash with a kick, Califa jsut attacked the Strawhats (and Ieburg) with a flurry of kicks (for mostly comical purposes).

                                  I always thought that was more of Lucci's hand being storng as shit than him using Shigan. But I always thought that was interesting and lead me to think that there was a lot more to him.

                                  And Kaku was just jumping around on rooftops and stuff… he didn't really display anything other than phenominal leg strength.

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                                    I think the whole Tashigi thing involving Zoro will eventually lead up to do with him becoming the world's greatest swordsman. Isn't it interesting that the only sword Tashigi's interested in is Wadou Ichimonji? Yubashiri's one those 50 swords she wanted out of evil's hands and she considers all pirates evil, but she hasn't ever mentioned it. I know this can't be proven, but Zoro did make a promise to Kuina, so maybe Mihawk won't be his greatest challenge, but facing his past and challenging Tashigi will.

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                                      Dragon appearing at Logue Town, as well as the scenes with Shanks, Buggy, Blackbeard, Whitebeard and the other Shichi Bukai.

                                      Though they haven't been resolved yet, these are all foreshadowing to the uber-degree because they've gone several hundred chapters without being resolved. Oda-sama knows where he's going with this story, that's for sure.

                                      I bet once these stories get resolved we'll see tons of sly little dialouge that actually mean a lot when we reread.

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                                        I think that this is the biggest foreshadowing of all:

                                        "Wealth, fame, and power. There was once a man in this world who had all of them. The "Pirate King", Gold Roger.
                                        Right before his death, he spoke the words that spurred the people of the world towards the ocean."

                                        Gold Roger: "My treasure? If you want it, you can have it… Look for it! I've put everything in the world there."

                                        You know, at some point we will find out what all of this is about. :laugh:

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                                          I thought the forg swimming in free-style was just a random thing, but he turned out to have a really big part!

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                                            @Ivotas:

                                            I´m hoping that the Jinbei thing is going to be the biggest foreshadowing piece. What I´m refering to isn´t mentioned in the anime but just in the manga. It´s the part where Yosaku says that he skips all the complicated fighting story and straight gets to the point. 😉

                                            In which chapter was that?

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                                              @Nine:

                                              In which chapter was that?

                                              It was chapter 69 when Yosaku tells Luffy and Sanji about the Shichibukai.

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                                                Soldiers: Are you guys the Straw Hat Pirates?!!

                                                Zambai: That's right!!

                                                Sisters: We ARE?!!

                                                Pauly: …what does it matter?
                                                We've gotta get moving!!

                                                From the latest chapter.

                                                Now, think. If the Straw Hats are gonna get a bigger ship possibly, it's also possible that thery could fit many more underlings.

                                                Just a thought.

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                                                  @The:

                                                  From the latest chapter.

                                                  Now, think. If the Straw Hats are gonna get a bigger ship possibly, it's also possible that thery could fit many more underlings.

                                                  Just a thought.

                                                  I agree. At fisrst I didn't see shanks or WhjiteBeard as having a lot of crewmates. The only reason we imagine less crewmates is because of luffy's crew.😁😁😁😁

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                                                    Vivi's asking if the crew would still accept her if she came back later…

                                                    That is one case of foreshadowing I would KILL for. =D

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                                                      I think Franky should resurrect the weapon for Luffy, and since Tom built Gold Roger's ship should only be fitting if his apprentices build the next pirate king's ship

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                                                        the only thing i don't want is a big crew.
                                                        RUFY WANTS ONLY 10 NAKAMA…

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                                                          Vivi's asking if the crew would still accept her if she came back later…

                                                          That is one case of foreshadowing I would KILL for. =D

                                                          It'd be nice to see Vivi's reaction when she finds Nico Robin on the ship 😃

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                                                            Speaking of Vivi: Luffy & co. come up with the X's as a countermeasure to Mr. 2, with Luffy proclaming it a sign of their friendship afterwards. Those X's later tell Vivi exactly what she is to the Straw Hat crew.

                                                            And, my personal favorite, the sky shadows. We see these huge shadowy monsters at the very beginning of Skypeia. They're seemingly nothing but random monsters n the Grand Line. Only at the very end to we understand that they're just sky people shadows, demonstrated by Luffy's ginormous one in the sky.

                                                            That has always been, to me, a magnificent way to bring the story full circle. Second only to Genzo's pinwheel.

                                                            Waldorf: You know Statler, after watching the last one thousand episodes of One Piece, I think I've come to a conclusion.

                                                            Statler: No you haven't.

                                                            Both: DOHOHOHOHOHO!

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                                                              Biggest foreshadowing?

                                                              Luffy saying that 10 nakama would be the ideal number.

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                                                                @SuNa:

                                                                Vivi's asking if the crew would still accept her if she came back later…

                                                                That is one case of foreshadowing I would KILL for. =D

                                                                Please everything but having Vivi coming back to the team. She was ok back then because she had a purpose to be there but appart from that I wouldn´t like to see her among the team again.

                                                                @Paulie:

                                                                Biggest foreshadowing?

                                                                Luffy saying that 10 nakama would be the ideal number.

                                                                Darn you beat me to it. I just wanted to say it. 😁

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                                                                  @changsho:

                                                                  Also, ever since Robin (as Miss All Sunday) questioned the intention of the "D", she gained more depth and can no longer be seen as just "Croc's uber hot ass-kicking partner." Her historical knowledge made her a key character in the entire series, but how can Oda develop her character effectively?

                                                                  By making her a Mugiwara nakama. W00t!

                                                                  man i love this comment of urs, really hit the bullseye there nice

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                                                                    It was chapter 69 when Yosaku tells Luffy and Sanji about the Shichibukai.

                                                                    Was just looking at chapter 69.. and saw another possible thing to expect in the future.. Yosaku tells Luffy and Sanji that there are 3 major powers in the Grand Line, and only mentions one of them, which is the Shichibukai. Could the cp9/world government be the 2nd one? If so, there's still a 3rd one out there that we don't know about.. Wonder what it is XD

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                                                                      @kashew:

                                                                      Was just looking at chapter 69.. and saw another possible thing to expect in the future.. Yosaku tells Luffy and Sanji that there are 3 major powers in the Grand Line, and only mentions one of them, which is the Shichibukai. Could the cp9/world government be the 2nd one? If so, there's still a 3rd one out there that we don't know about.. Wonder what it is XD

                                                                      Yeh i've been thinking about that since the first time i saw it in the anime..

                                                                      He just mentioned the shikibukai and then stopped…
                                                                      However the dangers of grand line are a-plenty...
                                                                      freak weather conditions, must use log pose, have to wait for log pose to set, etc..

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                                                                        Three grand admirals, the Shichibukai, and…. Whitebeard? Shanks?

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                                                                          I'm not sure if this is just the translation I have but Aokiji mentions a little brother after he freezes luffy, it could just be nothing or could be some crazy plot deal for the story

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                                                                            The only little bro I remember Aokiji refering to is the dolphin he encountered on his way back to the Marine HQ.

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                                                                              Yeah, I'm an idiot did not see that dolphin draw mad lil, though Aokiji still mentions Luffy's grandpa and how come Luffy and Ace have different surnames if they're brothers or are Monkey and Portgas something else

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                                                                                Yeah, I'm an idiot did not see that dolphin draw mad lil, though Aokiji still mentions Luffy's grandpa and how come Luffy and Ace have different surnames if they're brothers or are Monkey and Portgas something else

                                                                                Ever considered that the only thing they have in common in their name is the "D."? 😉

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                                                                                  you'd really have to be borderline retarded not to consider that point still just curious as to what the hell the Monkey and Portgas are about

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                                                                                    @Ivotas:

                                                                                    Ever considered that the only thing they have in common in their name is the "D."? 😉

                                                                                    Thus meaning that in their family, only the D. is carried on not the last name? OOOOORRRR…their mom's family name started with D..., and she was married 143 times and is over 20331 years old and each time their child got both their parents name. The father's name goes first, then the mothers family name, then the name itself.

                                                                                    Therefore Luffy and Ace and Roger, and Teacher are all half brothers fromt he same mother but different father..

                                                                                    Am i being weird enough to fit in?

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                                                                                      you'd really have to be borderline retarded not to consider that point still just curious as to what the hell the Monkey and Portgas are about

                                                                                      How about just being names? Never heard of people who have first and second names? BTW, don´t know what the Portgas is about since I don´t even know what that terms means actually but I always thought that Monkey was a homage to DBZ´s Son Goku who was actually a monkey boy if you look at it.

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                                                                                        Personally, I've often just figured it was meant to be descriptive of Luffy.

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                                                                                        Statler: No you haven't.

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                                                                                          Well that could work since there are lot of refrences in One Piece like Crocodile's name and no matter what you can only see one of Sanji's eyes

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                                                                                            Well that would work with my theory too since monkey seems to be descriptive of both characters Luffy and Son Goku.

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                                                                                              That reminds me. Wasn't there once a One Piece chapter title early on featuring Luffy as the Son Goku of Chinese legend?

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                                                                                                Chapter 319 (From Stephen's site)

                                                                                                Usopp: Then why is he HERE?!!
                                                                                                …he should be going after the big pirates worth billions!!!
                                                                                                G… GO AWAY!!

                                                                                                Is it a clue to estimate the level of pirates like Shanks and Whitebeard?^^

                                                                                                D'une graine plantée avec amour ne fleurit parfoit que des regrets…

                                                                                                From a seed planted with love flowered sometimes only regrets...

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                                                                                                  Chapter 319 (From Stephen's site)

                                                                                                  Is it a clue to estimate the level of pirates like Shanks and Whitebeard?^^

                                                                                                  Yes i;ve always thought that whitebeard was in the billions.

                                                                                                  😁😁😁😁😁😁

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                                                                                                    I got a possible foreshadowing, but am not so sure of it because it's the Thai translation.

                                                                                                    This one traced back a lot too. I got it from the other One Piece forum. The first (or second) volume, Oda said something when Zoro joined the crew. Something like "And Luffy got his first pirate crew, the pirate hunter Roronoa Zoro but he doesn't know that he had done a very wrong mistake" (Something like this, I don't have the volume with me and Thai translation did messed things up sometimes.)

                                                                                                    Is this a possible foreshadow that showed that Zoro will someday turned back and fought with Luffy?

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                                                                                                      I don't think there was ever such a mentioning of Luffy having made a bad mistake…

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                                                                                                        As Phlemingo said it, such a thing was never mentioned in the original story. How I hate it when translators chop some things appart just because they think that they can make it more cool sounding. Happens over here in Germany very often. Not just in One Piece. :rolleyes:

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