So since Jimbei already agreed on joining the SH's, I think that Luffy will get max. two more Nakamas. Including Jimbei it's 3.
We pretty much got covered every important role on a ship. We've got a cook, shipwright, etc.
Now I guess we'll get more strength based characters like Jimbei.
Oh of course, medicine! Oh wait, we already have that character.
Or maybe in cooking? Nope nope, we have that guy too.
Maybe some sort of hobbyist gardener of no use to anybody, yes surely this is one of the characters Oda will create for the all important main cast.
If the gardener can improve upon these plants that the crew uses, then why not? If he/she can improve the medicines, spices, and Pop Greens that makes the crew stronger as a whole. Grow an Adam or Eve tree.
And this is exactly why I told you to drop this whole line of thought and concoct some other position to cram a dwarf on the crew.
Because that is never in a million years going to be a position.
I guess. I focused on the dwarves because of their cultivating abilities potential usefulness. I tried thinking of other more traditional positions but couldn't really see the need for anybody based on just filling them right now.
This is a stupid argument since you and I both know how obscenely important Robin is to the crew and story (not to mention as we've just said, having scholars aboard ships wasn't unheard of at all).
Unless you also think a hobby gardener is somehow going to actually be super important in a non-traditional way lol.
As I stated I jumped the gun with my Robin argument. I know she is important to the story's progression. My point was that it isn't as much of a traditional/known position for a pirate crew to have. It is a useful position on uncovering history which could grant treasures or valuable information.
Let me get this straight.
You're surprised that in a discussion forum…people are discussing?
Because otherwise it kind of sounds like you imagine this to be a communal blog where everyone just leaves comments with out talking about other people's comments.
Or do you think something ridiculous like, that people should only post agreements.
No. That is not what I meant or stated. This is the next strawhat crewmate section. So all sorts of assumptions and guessitmations about who is next will be made. Most will be wrong but that's fine. Like the lottery. We play but most lose. Some get a little pay out with some accuracy.
It's more than imagination, it's knowing technique and common sense as well.
What kink in the chain has made you think an extremely unneeded, unmentioned, and hell…supplementary (as in he just grows stuff for other people to use, not himself), and essentially already filled position..would exist on the crew? For a dwarf character that has not even appeared? Or in the case of the ones that have...not really done anything but have a few lines with almost no spotlight cast on them?
…yes it is more than imagination...and just my wild prediction. It's not meant to hurt or offend someone that they feel Oda's work is being disrespected. We all wonder what's going to happen next. That idea popped in my mind, thought about the story and characters at the time, and what would help the crew.
So if I don't rush to jump off a bridge with nothing under it but an abyss, there's something wrong with me? Interesting theory.
Psshh…ok. Take your time. All I did was ask your opinion on what you think is next since I haven't seen it. You could have stated it 30 pages ago for all I know. You could show me the ways of what true One Piece logic is with a sound theory of your own that most people agree to. Or maybe you could be afraid to stick your neck out because someone will find holes in your theory. Not saying you are but I don't know unless I ask.
This is what I mean by fan-fiction, you tell me you're thinking like Oda, yet just kind of trample any Oda presented information that isn't convenient to you.
Oh? Two people already perfectly handle these two things? And just spent two entire years getting even better at them? Never matter! We need someone else to also do them.
Like honestly the surgeon thing is even less sensible than the botanist thing. Because that is quite literally totally covered by Chopper.
You're just ignoring the manga at this point to suggest that one.
If it does not fit, it does not fit.
I cannot think like Oda. I don't expect to get my prediction spot on. Hell 5% would be a win in certain cases. Chopper got better at using and mixing herbs for medicine. Usopp got better at using Pop Greens for fighting. So now the two of them combined are certified master botanists. Compare to dwarves who have more than likely studying plants(maybe fungus too) their whole lives or at the very least most of it. Is the botanist role necessary? Of course not but I thought with finally getting a proper introduction to the dwarves with such a useful skill could be member worthy with the right individual in place.
The world has a perspective of him? All we ever heard about him was that he was known in the North Blue. Robin is from West Blue, and everyone else (sans Chopper) is from East Blue in Jaya. None of them knew anything about the story. It's a total non-issue, just a minor historical shame in one region of the world of no importance (recall Sanji knew the story, and reacted indifferent to every part of the redemption narrative).
The one place where it DID matter was with his descendents, with Cricket. That was Cricket's issue to bear and resolve with himself.
The Norland Redemption narrative ended with Cricket telling Masira and Shoujou that their Jaya adventure was over.
You got me. It isn't that important to correct Norland's history to others if he wasn't that widely known.
Him having some freak popularity on one island of dwarves has nothing at all to do with it. And it would be a really terrible dream for the main cast.
"IM GOING TO STAND ATOP THE WORLD"
"IM GOING TO BE THE STRONGEST SWORDSMAN"
"I WILL CHART THE WHOLE EARTH"
"I WILL BE A MAN OF HONOR"
"I WILL FIND A MYSTICAL SEA"
"I WILL FIND THE CURE FOR EVERYTHING"
"I WILL DISCOVER THE LOST FORBIDDEN HISTORY"
"I WILL BUILD AND SAIL THE SHIP TO MAKE THE GREATEST QUEST"
"I WILL REUNITE EVEN AFTER DEATH WITH A DEAR FRIEND"
"I WILL correct a children's book's historical issues :)"
Well…I prefer the finding rare plants dream and spreading/manipulating/selling/etc in some fashion...GROW A BIGGER GREEN BIT NEAR JAYA...SPREAD TREASURE TREE ADAM AROUND THE WORLD...I'm scratching my head here. If I see a dwarf that gives off dream vibes then I continue this at a later date...lol
Norland getting "redeemed" sounds more like something Kishimoto would do.
"Whats this?! A plotline I resolved perfectly well hundreds of chapters ago? Time to soullessly resurrect it and add 150% more RAINBOWS AND SUNSHINE!"
-snip-
right, I'll give you a different example as to why a gardener/botanist would be somewhat of a weak/redundant position on the ship: Getting a dwarf to join the Strawhats as a botanist would essentially be the same as one of the old guys from Weatheria joining the crew to aid with the navigation. The old guys from weatheria were master meteorologists so technically you could argue that if you brought them onto the ship, they would serve the same purpose for Nami as the botanist would for Usopp and Chopper. It would be a lot more straightforward for the dwarves to just teach Chopper and Usopp about their cultivation methods. If you're able to find another position on the ship where a dwarf would be helpful, more props to you but a botanist is a long shot.
We could start consider Luffy as collector… cyborg, skeleton, fishmen, ... dwarf, giant, etc.
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yeah. because they are geniuses not, you try to give your take on a freakin discussion and you get replies like that. these kind of guys pushes new forum members and even old members away.
i messaged the forum moderator to cancel my account here, its not fun here anymore and there are too many assholes who thinks like they can monopolize what is right and wrong here, what people should think and even predict. they forgot the very essence of discussing because they know too much not
have a great day everyone!
It's a shame man… Even though I sometimes don't agree with your theories or crew mate predictions they are usually interesting and generally a good read.
It's a shame man… Even though I sometimes don't agree with your theories or crew mate predictions they are usually interesting and generally a good read.
Did something happen with this topic beck is talking about. Cause there are posts that I responded to earlier and all of them seem to have been deleted.
Still, it's a fairly weak argument considering how we can make a similar argument for um…Jora or someone (She can brighten the ship by painting it or something...hurrah...)
If she were attractive,you WOULD be seeing that arguement.
Remember when Monet turned out to be an astronomer, just like her supporters predicted.
Oh wait.
The only ones i could think of that might end up joining the SH's are: Sol or Wicca. They both have short simple names like the SH's. Jinbe will be the last one joining.
You make it sound like it isn't a big deal or rather that it couldn't be a big deal. Usopp learned about plants but more specifically Pop Greens for 2 years. That doesn't make him an expert in botany…just Pop Greens. When will he have time to learn from the dwarves? They are going to the factory right now. I just don't see any long break where he can learn a great deal more about plants. With an official gardener, Usopp, Nami, and Robin can focus on other things around the ship because they can trust the dwarf will take care of it. They already have an area where the dwarf can operate and expand other herbs, food, and plants.
–---> Take care of garden is a way to relax for Robin.
-----> Mostly, Usopp's plants are pop green, and as you said he studied it for 2 years, so he's the expert at this!
-----> Nami grew up with orange trees, she values it as the memento of her dead "mother". No one can understand it more than her!
=======> a dwarf takes care of all this is not necessary!
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The Straw Hats should have a designated "talent scout" on their crew, so that they can streamline this whole process of finding New Nakama. Also, I just realized that if you put together "New" and "Nakama" you get Newkama.
–---> haha yeah, it's true haha 
and the opposite of "New"kama is "Old"kama==> "O"kama ==> Bon Clay!
p/s: just a moment of realization!, don't mind me!
Oh, the botanist-who-is-inspired-by-Noland isn't a bad idea. You can imagine them looking at wierd plants and learning about them on every island, documenting them and stuff~
Only problem with it is that no character has been even vaguely suggested to be like this and it would feel too much of an overlap with Usopp (who fights with plants) and Chopper (who uses plenty of herbs for medicine).
Hey why didn't Moria have a Noland zombie anyway. That would have been interesting.
Oh, the botanist-who-is-inspired-by-Noland isn't a bad idea. You can imagine them looking at wierd plants and learning about them on every island, documenting them and stuff~
Only problem with it is that no character has been even vaguely suggested to be like this and it would feel too much of an overlap with Usopp (who fights with plants) and Chopper (who uses plenty of herbs for medicine).
Hey why didn't Moria have a Noland zombie anyway. That would have been interesting.
The problem with Botanist is it would be abrupt - See if you compare it to Robin well her skillset is to give exposition to us the reader. But the need for a botanist does not appear to be all that pressing.
That said I can see how it would work and the whole forshadowing of a Botanist by the Data book does work in peoples favour for speculation but the other thing is Oda would be unlikely to release that data so easily. He seems more reserved in showing through the Manga rather then leaking/teasing just because he can.
Norland was considered to be a liar - his legendary strength and power was lost to his representation in a childrens story. Why would Moria have searched for him? based on the childrens story he wouldn't be any different from any other corpse he picked up.
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Personally I would think that the moderators should focus their energy on those who become overly aggressive, not their victims.
You have no idea how much focus and energy that would expend, with no end in sight. Anyone with a will to work around the forum's built-in penalties will find an easy time of it, so a better practice is to limit what provokes the confrontations in the first place. Stupidity, repetition, ignorance, etc.
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The negative attitude in this forum has been a shock to me upon returning after several years.
If you go to this very thread in 2007, or 2009, or 2011, or anywhere in between you'll commonly find the same or worse. Take 2009, for example, you'll find Perona and Boa Hancock theorists in full force, and Monkey King iterations and other members being much more aggressive than now. Though to be fair he was pretty critical of the Jinbe argument then, saying it was even worse than Hancock, while proceeding to argue for Hachi. Contrast with today, it's much more civil, though yeah a few individuals could tone it down more. I'm sure they know who they are.
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It's a discussion forum for goodness' sake, putting forward theories is FUN, and people should feel safe enough in this environment to do so without fear of being mocked. For example the fact that people feel obliged to write a disclaimer before their posts such as "please don't attack me for posting this theory, but …" shows how screwed up the culture here is.
On this, at least in my experience, we are not unique in the slightest. There are a dozen forums I've been a part of or still am a part of that are exactly the same, and then there are others still that just seem to have a lower maturity level as a whole, as in less intelligent discussion. You can't have open intelligent discussion without the occasional unintelligent discussion intermixing, and when the subject matter is a children's comic the result is specific thoughtless discussion becoming very repetitive.
The fact of the matter is that forums are comprised of individuals, and those individuals come and go, and sometimes they get angry and sometimes they are stupid and we just have to deal with it. The staff does what they can, we don't just throw our hands up and walk away from tough situations. Just keep in mind that we don't moderate openly that often, it's usually handled behind the scenes; most of the threads here have a lot more posts than you see.[/hide]@ICEMAN:
The only ones I could think of that might end up joining the SH's are: Sol or Wicca. They both have short simple names like the SH's.
At this point why even mention them though?
–---> Take care of garden is a way to relax for Robin.
-----> Mostly, Usopp's plants are pop green, and as you said he studied it for 2 years, so he's the expert at this!
-----> Nami grew up with orange trees, she values it as the memento of her dead "mother". No one can understand it more than her!=======> a dwarf takes care of all this is not necessary!
They don't have to stop doing what they are doing. Robin can still relax with her gardening, Usopp tend to his pop greens, and Nami to her orange trees. The dwarf would just essentially help improve their gardening of their plants while tending to the garden they bring and continue to expand the garden along the adventure.
I still don't think the gardening abilities of a dwarf would be waisted because Usopp takes care of his own plants and uses them as weapons now. If Usopp started growing food for the crew or offered to take care of the tangerines then I'd have nothing to say about the potential ability of the dwarves. It's not like the dwarves fight with plants in the same way, the majority of them appear to be hand to hand fighters anyway.
The overlap between a specialized gardener and Usopp could be as minute as Brook and Zoro's ability to use swords.
I can't imagine why a full on gardener on the ship would be important but Oda liked that idea before in his original concept. It was the guys role on the ship, who knows what it ultimately could have meant though. There certainly is no dwarf that stands out as potential crew mate material but this arc is going to carry on for a while, if one does become Straw Hat worthy the plant cultivating ability will play some role later.
Oh, the botanist-who-is-inspired-by-Noland isn't a bad idea. You can imagine them looking at wierd plants and learning about them on every island, documenting them and stuff~
Only problem with it is that no character has been even vaguely suggested to be like this and it would feel too much of an overlap with Usopp (who fights with plants) and Chopper (who uses plenty of herbs for medicine).
Hey why didn't Moria have a Noland zombie anyway. That would have been interesting.
I have my doubts even though I am the one really arguing for the possibility. The dwarves haven't really had too much individual moments(Leo sewing up the old lady and Robin, Wicca calling Zoro stupid, dwarves in Robin's boobs) but there is time for that. All it would take is a couple of chapters showing more of their personalities which is bound to happen. Now will one of them be nakama worthy only time and Oda could tell…I guess his assistants too.
Is Brook being a sword fighter too much of an overlap with Zoro's wanting to be the best swordsman? Does Jinbe's Fishman Karate interfere too much with Sanji's Tae Kwon Do/Capoeira/Parkour hybrid fighting style or Chopper's Kung Fu Point? What about Usopp and Franky both being inventors/tinkerers? Nami and Robin both having huge breasts too much of an overlap?
Overlap is bound to happen. All the dwarf would need to bring is something unique to the table that sets his/her botany apart from Usopp, Nami, Robin, and Chopper.
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I still don't think the gardening abilities of a dwarf would be waisted because Usopp takes care of his own plants and uses them as weapons now. If Usopp started growing food for the crew or offered to take care of the tangerines then I'd have nothing to say about the potential ability of the dwarves. It's not like the dwarves fight with plants in the same way, the majority of them appear to be hand to hand fighters anyway.
The overlap between a specialized gardener and Usopp could be as minute as Brook and Zoro's ability to use swords.
I can't imagine why a full on gardener on the ship would be important but Oda liked that idea before in his original concept. It was the guys role on the ship, who knows what it ultimately could have meant though. There certainly is no dwarf that stands out as potential crew mate material but this arc is going to carry on for a while, if one does become Straw Hat worthy the plant cultivating ability will play some role later.
My bad RomanceDawn! Should have read your post first before posting my last post. A fellow supporter of the gardener for nakama…and if not supporter someone who sees the possibility.
Well about this gardening and dwarf stuff… For now there is no dwarf who screams nakama but they are for sure very unique... The Noland and botanist connection is nice as well... Is it needed at the SHs? well most likely no... But if Oda wants to have one... It's no problem... Usopp is just doing it right now as he has done the shipwrighting before
If the gardener can improve upon these plants that the crew uses, then why not? If he/she can improve the medicines, spices, and Pop Greens that makes the crew stronger as a whole.
We are never going to get a goddamn crewmate whose entire role is as a sidekick to one of the main cast. It's ridiculous and would defeat the entire point of the main cast being the main cast.
And there's been absolutely NO indication whatsoever at any point that any improvement is needed. None.
How is it you just ignore that? How can you argue something that has had absolutely zero set-up from Oda?
Grow an Adam or Eve tree.
ahahahahah WHAT THE hell.
I guess. I focused on the dwarves because of their cultivating abilities potential usefulness. I tried thinking of other more traditional positions but couldn't really see the need for anybody based on just filling them right now.
Congratulations, you have now discovered why it makes no sense to argue what you've been arguing.
As I stated I jumped the gun with my Robin argument. I know she is important to the story's progression. My point was that it isn't as much of a traditional/known position for a pirate crew to have.
Which doesn't matter at all when her position is story important.
Unlike a friggin' botanist.
No. That is not what I meant or stated. This is the next strawhat crewmate section. So all sorts of assumptions and guessitmations about who is next will be made. Most will be wrong but that's fine. Like the lottery. We play but most lose. Some get a little pay out with some accuracy.
And you clog up the thread with really unworthy ideas left and right, making it annoying for people looking for quality.
Psshh…ok. Take your time. All I did was ask your opinion on what you think is next since I haven't seen it. You could have stated it 30 pages ago for all I know. You could show me the ways of what true One Piece logic is with a sound theory of your own that most people agree to. Or maybe you could be afraid to stick your neck out because someone will find holes in your theory. Not saying you are but I don't know unless I ask.
Hey you know how every single person nowadays talks about the Rio Poneglyph being on Raftel and that a war will happened at the end of the series?
Mostly after Whitebeard's final words?
Yeah, I predicted that revelation by at least three years.
I cannot think like Oda. I don't expect to get my prediction spot on. Hell 5% would be a win in certain cases. Chopper got better at using and mixing herbs for medicine. Usopp got better at using Pop Greens for fighting. So now the two of them combined are certified master botanists. Compare to dwarves who have more than likely studying plants(maybe fungus too) their whole lives or at the very least most of it. Is the botanist role necessary? Of course not but I thought with finally getting a proper introduction to the dwarves with such a useful skill could be member worthy with the right individual in place.
No no no, come on. Don't lie to me.
The thought process began with "Ooooo!! Dwarves! I want one on crew!".
And everything else grew from there.
Well…I prefer the finding rare plants dream and spreading/manipulating/selling/etc in some fashion...GROW A BIGGER GREEN BIT NEAR JAYA...SPREAD TREASURE TREE ADAM AROUND THE WORLD...
You have some super strange ideas about what Oda is planning on with the Adam and Eve trees.
As if they're some sort of species, and growing them will have to do with anything.
What we truly need are
a helmsman/Underwater expert aka Jinbe
and a
DEFENDER ala … you know who :ninja:
We are never going to get a goddamn crewmate whose entire role is as a sidekick to one of the main cast. It's ridiculous and would defeat the entire point of the main cast being the main cast.
And there's been absolutely NO indication whatsoever at any point that any improvement is needed. None.
How is it you just ignore that? How can you argue something that has had absolutely zero set-up from Oda?
You keep saying side kick to other crew mates but I don't think anyone is saying that out right. Using the term side kick makes it sounds ridiculous yes but how different is providing better plants to the crew mates who need them any different from Sanji's cooking powering up the crew now with special recipes? I don't think it's any different from that or Usopp being the guy who upgrades Nami's weapons from time to time.
Usopp and Sanji can fight on their own in big 1 on 1 battles and use their special skills on the side aid multiple crew mates. If a Dwarf happened to join he would be a fighter like anyone else on his own terms, and maybe, just maybe he'll grow food, medicinal herbs, cross breed pop greens, who knows? He or she wouldn't be holed up on deck all day just supplying goodies.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯ 
Usopp is already a plant guy, in addition to other stuff.
We don't need someone that "specializes" in plants when he already does, and its not really a "ship maintinence" sort of thing. Same way we don't need two doctors or two navigators or two shiprights or two captains.
This isn't a 30 cast member classroom manga with lots of overlap.
I just don't see Usopp as the general plant expert(not yet anyway), as in all plants of the world. Pop Greens seem like such a different beast compared to typical greenery. You both could be right on, and maybe Usopp will just pick up even more skill from these guys, not in the battle sense but the form of cultivation then that will be the end of it.
You keep saying side kick to other crew mates but I don't think anyone is saying that out right. Using the term side kick makes it sounds ridiculous yes but how different is providing better plants to the crew mates who need them any different from Sanji's cooking powering up the crew now with special recipes?
Because the chef idea isn't founded on such things, it's a non-combat role of extreme importance.
Not to mention Sanji's long time role as one of the three monsters.
I don't think it's any different from that or Usopp being the guy who upgrades Nami's weapons from time to time.
Usopp is one of the most important characters in the entire crew story wise. He's the everyman. And the guy who we are (presumably) going to be seeing going from a complete normal everday wimp, to a bona-fide brave warrior. INCREDIBLY important to any shonen and/or quest story.
Unless someone wants to argue there's some other huge narrative role Oda decided to go without for 70+ volumes that this dwarf could fill, than don't even compare to Usopp.
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I just don't see Usopp as the general plant expert(not yet anyway), as in all plants of the world. Pop Greens seem like such a different beast compared to typical greenery. You both could be right on, and maybe Usopp will just pick up even more skill from these guys, not in the battle sense but the form of cultivation then that will be the end of it.
See here's the biggest thing wrong with the botany argument.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT PLANTS.
Oda doesn't care, the crew doesn't care, no other crew has ever cared, no one in the series until the dwarves has given the remotest shit. Even Usopp kind of just treats it as a neat tool he gained over the skip rather than any huge deal.
People keep coming in here and hemming such a major addition to the cast on something absolutely no one in the series, and by extension Oda, has shown the foggiest of shits to give about.
You don't see Usopp as a plant expert in a world of plants? Yeah, I guess you're right. And that doesn't matter one fig, because no one gives a shit about the world of plants.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT PLANTS.
Oda doesn't care, the crew doesn't care, no other crew has ever cared, no one in the series until the dwarves has given the remotest shit. Even Usopp kind of just treats it as a neat tool he gained over the skip rather than any huge deal.
People keep coming in here and hemming such a major addition to the cast on something absolutely no one in the series, and by extension Oda, has shown the foggiest of shits to give about.
You don't see Usopp as a plant expert in a world of plants? Yeah, I guess you're right. And that doesn't matter one fig, because no one gives a shit about the world of plants.
And the only reason I ever brought up the whole plant thing and a dwarf a little while ago because I think Oda does care about plants. One of his original ideas as a crew mate was a botanist or some form of a gardener anyway. Of course so much has changed between then and what we see now, but at one point he did care enough that a gardening role was fit into his main cast.
After 15 or so years there has been just about zilch concerning the need for plants in any meaningful way within the crew. That's probably why the idea was dropped in the first place and/or fitted into Usopp. That or the major need for such things just hasn't come up yet. I'm open to the possibility.
Also, like Usopp or Jinbe, if a dwarf does happen to gain the proper development to be added into the crew, I doubt any plant skills will push Luffy over the edge. If someone has the potential to join it will be because Luffy likes them and they can figure out what they want to do on board later.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Next SH is gonna be a character based on strength.
I can't think of any future ones who might join.
Also, like Usopp or Jinbe, if a dwarf does happen to gain the proper development to be added into the crew, I doubt any plant skills will push Luffy over the edge. If someone has the potential to join it will be because Luffy likes them and they can figure out what they want to do on board later.
So ultimately you just have "if a dwarf gets proper development.
Soooo….nothing.
Moreso than the whole botanist debate, the thing that confuses me about the "Dwarves for Nakamate!" movement is that currently introduced characters (mostly Wicca) are being suggested.
That people can look at any of the dwarves we've seen so far and go "Wow! That was a character introduction fit for a crewmate!" baffles me.
I'm putting it all on Dwarf Princess.
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That people can look at any of the dwarves we've seen so far and go "Wow! That was a character introduction fit for a crewmate!" baffles me.
That's really what screws with my head too lol.
Like they're completely illiterate to the series beyond being able to read English or Japanese.
I'm putting it all on Dwarf Princess.
I hope not but my gut feeling says the same. Ugh.
It's been about two volumes, and she still isn't about to show up. Way late in an arc to establish a main cast level character.
So ultimately you just have "if a dwarf gets proper development.
Soooo….nothing.
Well, yeah.
I don't claim being an expert botanist is what's going to put new member into the ship, it's just an aspect of Oda's original ideas he may want to revisit.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
it's just an aspect of Oda's original ideas he may want to revisit.
Which he already did with Usopp.
Which he already did with Usopp.
Yeah unless he wants to expand upon it even more. These dwarfs come across as best in the world at what they do, even if it's self proclaimed. I wouldn't be surprised if an incident arises that's on the scale of Noland's Tree Fever issue. I'm not talking a disease but something only these guys can handle.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Yeah unless he wants to expand upon it even more. These dwarfs come across as best in the world at what they do, even if it's self proclaimed. I wouldn't be surprised if an incident arises that's on the scale of Noland's Tree Fever issue. I'm not talking a disease but something only these guys can handle.
An incident where? On Dressrosa?
Someone needs to grow Sanji's weed, god knows Ussopp is too much of a wuss to do something illegal.
When the heart of fire strikes the hearth of stone, will you leave your life? Will you leave your home? Will you take the darkest road?
An incident where? On Dressrosa?
Possibly, but then yeah my hypothetical situation is if one of them did join and something did happen later on. It's just a matter of where Oda wants to take the whole "no plant we can't cultivate" line. It could be left simply as that, though i'm guessing that skill and a need for it will come into play this very arc. Now a Straw Hat need? I'm guessing more of a need to get out of immediate danger in a way that only they could.
Folks who read One Piece… Just better people. ¯\(ツ)/¯
Possibly, but then yeah my hypothetical situation is if one of them did join and something did happen later on. It's just a matter of where Oda wants to take the whole "no plant we can't cultivate" line. It could be left simply as that, though i'm guessing that skill and a need for it will come into play this very arc. Now a Straw Hat need? I'm guessing more of a need to get out of immediate danger in a way that only they could.
Or y'know, people Usopp can get some upgrades from.
Or y'know, people Usopp can get some upgrades from.
And that's also true, as a matter of fact I'm counting on that one.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT PLANTS.
Noland is hurt.
Incidentally, I remember reading about how there was a botanist in early designs of the crew? And that's where the Pop Green development for Usopp came from? Like the botanist element was dropped, but the plant -> fighting element came in after the timeskip.
Noland is hurt.
Incidentally, I remember reading about how there was a botanist in early designs of the crew? And that's where the Pop Green development for Usopp came from? Like the botanist element was dropped, but the plant -> fighting element came in after the timeskip.
Yeah, that design got folded into Usopp's character.
All the more reason for him to collect a healthy sample of new plants from the Dwarves after this arc is over.
@MonkeyKing
I'll save some space instead of responding back to each rebuttal in seperate quotes.
I am speculating. You are right in that there isn't near the foreshadowing for a new nakama as some others. Perhaps Usopp having Pop Greens is foreshadowing that a botanist will be need because his seeds get infected(example…don't think that will happen). Not every main point of who will join will be stated in advance. I am not lying. I don't care if a dwarf joins. I started thinking about who the next nakama was going to be after Jinbe last year. I just joined but have read the forum a little less than 2 years. I read people argue for and against Kinemon, Monet, Cesar Clown, Law, Smoker, Tashigi, and others. I won't get into the too many details but only Kinemon seemed somewhat reasonable. He could be the tailor of the crew. Another swordsman though. Monet seemed like an ideal lookout until she showed more of her personality.
You predicted the Rio Poneglyph being in Raftel 3 YEARS AGO?! Damn...good job son. BUT...that is a different subject then what I asked you. I asked when you think the next nakama will come. Your answer was along the lines of not rushing to jump off a bridge...so you can't give a simple response because it will kill you in some way?:wassat: Kidding. You could say what positions you think will be filled. Somthing that is what you think WILL happen. I'm curious. You can change your mind later if you think of something better that, you know?
Clogging the forum with unworthy ideas...so hurtful. I'll try to improve my quality...after this post.
I brought up the Adam and Eve trees as examples since they are rare plants that serve a purpose to the world. I don't know any other important and/or rare botany related objects...(looks up some): Tree of Knowledge, Weather Balls, Vearth, etc... These could be a botanist dream to collect the seeds to grow for himself/herself.
How about this for a dream for the botanist...collect all the rare plants from around the world to make his/her own Garden of Eden...or maybe there is some sarcred garden to find...Big Garden!
Still faintly waving "Momonosuke" and "Dwarf Princess" banners, but only because their characters/concepts seem intriguing and the right 'flavor' for the Strawhats.
@RobbyBevard:
Usopp is already a plant guy, in addition to other stuff.
We don't need someone that "specializes" in plants when he already does, and its not really a "ship maintinence" sort of thing. Same way we don't need two doctors or two navigators or two shiprights or two captains.
This isn't a 30 cast member classroom manga with lots of overlap.
wasnt the fishman oda originally planned to be on the crew a botanist….i know we got ussop using that as a fighting style but maybe he still plans on a botanist joining
just saying cause it was in his original plan /end being devils advocate
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so wait people actually think the dwarf princess is a candidate when we haven't even met her yet?!
and don't say it sounds like she has an interesting personality, what character in OP of any relevance doesn't! You might as well say every character will join….. oh wait
people who people thought would join in part 2
Perona
Hercules
Caribou
Hatchan
Camie
Mermaid Princess
Fukaboshi
Hodi
Hyouzou
Shyarly (I'm pretty sure someone mentioned this)
Monet
Brown Beard
Smoker
Tashigi
Baby 5
The guy who wears a top hat in the doflamingo family
Bellamy
Thunder soldier
Rebecca
Bartolomeo
Blue Gilly
Ricky
Don Chinjao
Sai
boo
cavendeish
a random dwarf
a dwarf princess
and the list will continue to grow until those last two are picked.... and maybe even after
you are forgetting Ten Shin Han's sister. Three eyed girl.
Fukaboshi
Hodi
Hyouzou
Shyarly (I'm pretty sure someone mentioned this)
Brown Beard
Blue Gilly
Ricky
Don Chinjao
Sai
boo
Haven't seen people say any of these. Though, this could just be selective memory.
