Here's a really easy way it handle presenting non-canon stuff.
Just always use the manga.
I don't get why this is hard.
Will do. It's not hard it's just I figured the One Piece Wiki link would have displayed any differences between the manga and anime like it usually does. I didn't see any so didn't think that the anime pic of the weather balls would make a difference. Manga images for proof on topic.
! http://i6.mangapanda.com/one-piece/592/one-piece-2423303.jpg
the weather balls are grown on a field in the manga.
My bad. Missed this page somehow.
But saying that balls are (pure) plants is still bit of a stretch.
What's with the Momo for new nakama suggestions? He's 8yrs old. That is not a crewmate, that's a burden.
I think you forget the old tradition of sailing ships having a ship's boy. In my eyes Momo has disqualified himself already with his personality, but in principle I don't think there's anything which would speak against some sort of ship's boy.
so wait people actually think the dwarf princess is a candidate when we haven't even met her yet?!
and don't say it sounds like she has an interesting personality, what character in OP of any relevance doesn't! You might as well say every character will join….. oh wait
Thing is one of the main requirements for a new crewmember is that he or she does not fit within her established society. Nami and Usopp didn't fit in among the common villagers of their islands, Sanji didn't fit among with the deadbeat cooks, Chopper as a blue-nosed reindeer-man didn't fit either with humans or with reindeers, Robin was double-crossing Croco so she certainly didn't fit with him, Franky was too big for his gutter family, Brook had lost his comrades 50 years before and Jimbei as a former shichibukai has no real place in FI either. The only exception is Zoro who even without Luffy would be making his way to the top on his own- though he certainly would get lost on the way.
If you look at Leo's description of the dwarf princess, even without having seen her firsthand it seems that she does not really fit in among the dwarves. Unlike someone like Rebecca who has been tricked into being hated and who will certainly make the instant transformation from public enemy no. 1 into beloved princess/queen. Moreover as a dwarf Ma Cherie would certainly meet the weirdness factor of the SH.
Still you are correct that this hardly constitutes proof or even a solid clue that she will become the next member. It's just that at this point pretty much everyone will be brought up who is even remotely interesting and who doesn't disqualify him- or herself immediately.
Gorlak wants you for the army
Will do. It's not hard it's just I figured the One Piece Wiki link would have displayed any differences between the manga and anime like it usually does. I didn't see any so didn't think that the anime pic of the weather balls would make a difference. Manga images for proof on topic.
The wiki is in general, pretty terrible. They have odd priorities, and prefer to use anime images rather than manga ones as soon as the anime gets to a scene… this often lads to the wiki being biased or inaccurate. Especially since the anime makes every single episode about 2/3 filler now, there's a lot of material that just flat out contradicts the manga.
Even the official printed databooks have a lot of errors in them. (Birthdays, titles, names, flags, Sabo being alive, etc.) The source manga is really the only way to go most of the time.
The wiki is mostly good for a quick glance at the timeline, or placing a name to a face of a fairly minor or obscure character.
I think you forget the old tradition of sailing ships having a ship's boy. In my eyes Momo has disqualified himself already with his personality, but in principle I don't think there's anything which would speak against some sort of ship's boy.
Yes, but the SHs are different from your traditional pirate crew. They are a small crew and they are self sufficent. They don't have ranks except the Captain and everyone works to care for the Ship. They're not some pirate crew playing around in East blue, they are in the New World and they go against the most dangerous people. A ship boy will be a liability.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
All I ask is that a dwarf beats Sanjuan Wolf.
Yes, but the SHs are different from your traditional pirate crew. They are a small crew and they are self sufficent. They don't have ranks except the Captain and everyone works to care for the Ship. They're not some pirate crew playing around in East blue, they are in the New World and they go against the most dangerous people. A ship boy will be a liability.
Like Shanks and Buggy were when they sailed with Roger in the New World?
Gorlak wants you for the army
Like Shanks and Buggy were when they sailed with Roger in the New World?
Yeah but Roger was like 40-50 when he took them in. As great of a pirate Luffy is, he's still young and green! Definitely not the one to teach the business to younger generation.
Like Shanks and Buggy were when they sailed with Roger in the New World?
Cuz Shanks and Buggy looked like 8
So? Even an 8 year old can do a Coby if necessary.
Gorlak wants you for the army
So? Even an 8 year old can do a Coby if necessary.
But Coby was on ship playing around in East Blue where your greatest foe is a Navy Captain.
IF YOU DIE, I'LL KILL YOU….
Just for everyone thinking that having Momo as a cabin boy is irresponsible.. Luffy is not exactly the most responsible person around. But there is still a lot more we need to see from them (Momo + Kinemon) and as much as I want them to join, so far it only seems like they are a temporary thing. But don't lose hope, there are still 2 islands (Zou and Wano, maybe Kano) of fun with them to see if they will show any sign of joining.
Lose hope? I'm constantly gaining hope that will indeed not be joining the crew.
But seriously I think it's pretty certain at this point that they'll be staying in Wano when the SH's depart.
The Momo cabin boy again :I
Momo seems too Wano to be a Cabin boy, I don't think we'll see SH apprentices until Luffy and Co. are well in their thirties or forties.
Just take a hint from Roger and Rayleigh's first meeting, they were both young men, yet Roger didn't give up his hat or become PK til well in his forties or older.
Shanks and Buggy were probably toddlers when their Captain and First Mate met.
Momo's too young. The crew just spent 2 more years training since they were weak, so why bring along a kid? They are declaring wars on yonkous, and fighting admirals soon. Just seems ridiculous to involve a kid in all that.
Chopper is already the starry eyed younger-than-everyone innocent.
Chopper is already the starry eyed younger-than-everyone innocent.
I don't want Momo to join, but, to be fair, if he was to join indeed he sure wouldn't be the innocent one, giving his boob-fetish.
Eh, fuck it.
Momo's too young. The crew just spent 2 more years training since they were weak, so why bring along a kid? They are declaring wars on yonkous, and fighting admirals soon. Just seems ridiculous to involve a kid in all that.
Valid point.
I'm passionately against Momo joining. He's too weak.
I'm on the Barto bandwagon though, he's probably my favorite character post timeskip so far.
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How can boobs be a fetish? :ninja:
The same way every part of the body can be a fetish is you get too obsessed with it.
Eh, fuck it.
The same way every part of the body can be a fetish is you get too obsessed with it.
Except primary and secondary sexual characteristics I would imagine??
right, I'll give you a different example as to why a gardener/botanist would be somewhat of a weak/redundant position on the ship: Getting a dwarf to join the Strawhats as a botanist would essentially be the same as one of the old guys from Weatheria joining the crew to aid with the navigation. The old guys from weatheria were master meteorologists so technically you could argue that if you brought them onto the ship, they would serve the same purpose for Nami as the botanist would for Usopp and Chopper. It would be a lot more straightforward for the dwarves to just teach Chopper and Usopp about their cultivation methods. If you're able to find another position on the ship where a dwarf would be helpful, more props to you but a botanist is a long shot.
I know late but…didn't see all the info the first time.
Those old guys don't have the drive to map the entire world like Nami. They know about weather but can they navigate through it when shit hits the fan?
How do you know the dwarves can even teach Usopp, Chopper, and others their cultivating techniques? What if it is only something dwarves can do? And when will they teach them? Do you think there will be enough time between islands for them to learn these techniques that are "the best" in the world?
Okay...how about tailor as another position? Kinemon was suited for that role with his DF power so what about Leo with his Nui Nui no Mi? He can sew/stitch the crew up new clothes and fix their existing clothes. He would be a better tailor than Kinemon because his clothes would be permanent.
Except primary and secondary sexual characteristics I would imagine??
Well, not really. There is the fetish about boobs, nipples and buttlocks, so secondary sexual characteristics aren't an exception. There are no fetishes regarding the primary ones, though.
Okay…how about tailor as another position? Kinemon was suited for that role with his DF power so what about Leo with his Nui Nui no Mi? He can sew/stitch the crew up new clothes and fix their existing clothes. He would be a better tailor than Kinemon because his clothes would be permanent.
They got an entire store worth of clothes from Pappug on FI. They will never need to worry about clothes again. They don't need a tailor.
@RobbyBevard:
They got an entire store worth of clothes from Pappug on FI. They will never need to worry about clothes again. They don't need a tailor.
And we got Brook. Brook has good sense of style IMO.
See Film Z where Luffy and the other wear clothes he chose.
They look really classy.
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@RobbyBevard:
They got an entire store worth of clothes from Pappug on FI. They will never need to worry about clothes again. They don't need a tailor.
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/611/7
The tailor could fix their clothes if they get torn. 
But yeah I suppose you're right.
So when Jinbe joins then I guess his roles will be:
Jinbe - Helmsman, Sea Fighter, Fisherman
So this is the most reasonable candidates I've gathered after Jinbe(obviously not all will join if any) on uniqueness of character and position on crew:
Kinemon - Tailor(If position isn't needed then even less likely)
Monet - Astronomer(Will the crew go to the moons?), Lookout(Is she dead? Can she be redeemed?)
Leo - Botanist, Surgeon, Tailor(Most don't think a botanist is necessary and overlaps Usopp and Chopper; Surgeon steps on Chopper's toes; Tailor…strong argrument against)
So if at least 1 more nakama after Jinbe is to join what position would they fill? What position that isn't filled is most important to the crew?
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/611/7
So when Jinbe joins then I guess his roles will be:
Jinbe - Helmsman, Sea Fighter, Fisherman
Boatswain, diplomat, and lifeguard.
They are not going to get a tailor, for one simple reason - Oda already showed two ( well one master tailor & his apprentice) but no interest was shown on either side of them joining, even though they were friends.
@RobbyBevard:
Boatswain, diplomat, and lifeguard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boatswain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifeguard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_(watercraft)
That is a good list of roles for him.
Boatswain: He is used to giving orders being a former captain and could like being in charge of the deck duties. I think his main task as boatswain will be maintaining the hull being that it is underwater.
Diplomat: Trying to mix the two dreams of Fisher Tiger and Otohime, he is the one bringing the message of equality and unity to the world above the sea.
Lifeguard: Clearly needed for a ship that has 4 Devil Fruit users. Sanji is the best human swimmer but he can't breathe underwater and Jinbe is stronger underwater than on land.
-So was Jinbe the helmsman of his crew? (Random thought…if he one of his roles is helmsman for the Strawhats, his opponent from the Blackbeard Pirates could be Jesus Burgess after Burgess eats the Mera Mera no Mi...he would be fighting for Ace's and Luffy's sake)
-Seafighter(offense) and Lifeguard(defense), mix that into one position.
-Not sure he is a capable fisherman but I'm stereotyping him as such being a Fisherman.
Jinbei's position will obviously be Blood Supply. God knows Luffy needs it lol
I know Barto is kind of a bad guy 
but he will have a position we didn't have…he can be the shield...
He is one of my favorite characters in this arc so I vote for him
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I know Barto is kind of a bad guy
but he will have a position we didn't have…he can be the shield...He is one of my favorite characters in this arc so I vote for him
How many shields do you want?
@MJR.:
And we got Brook. Brook has good sense of style IMO.
See Film Z where Luffy and the other wear clothes he chose.They look really classy.
Funny how the character that's been laying in the Florian triangle for 50 years has the best sense of style.
I'm on the "no more nakamas" bandwagon. We've got enough SHs, just as many as Luffy wanted (see my signature).
Huh? Luffy said he wanted at least 10 nakama and when you say "I want 10 friends" you usually don't include yourself.
There's still two more positions open, one if Jinbei eventually joins. Also depends on if you count the boat I guess?
I'm on the something-sad-will-happen-to-fishbro bandwagon though, for whatever reason Jinbei makes my Tragedy Senses tingle.
Not even Naruto resorted to time travel
Huh? Luffy said he wanted at least 10 nakama and when you say "I want 10 friends" you usually don't include yourself.
There's still two more positions open, one if Jinbei eventually joins. Also depends on if you count the boat I guess?I'm on the something-sad-will-happen-to-fishbro bandwagon though, for whatever reason Jinbei makes my Tragedy Senses tingle.
Jimbei is joining the crew.
How many shields do you want?
who's the other shield?
they are all expert at attacking…not defending!!!
not that they can't defend...but they are more combat type.
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Point Guard … (though it's not a shield...)
Gomu Gomu no Fusen... General Shield !?
they are not at all on par with Barto's Shield that can defend against something like king's punch… you can't possibly compare them!!!
he is like an absolute defense
who's the other shield?
they are all expert at attacking…not defending!!!
not that they can't defend...but they are more combat type.
So you're saying that they're pro at the offense but amateur on the defense , that statement won't hold his ground on this thread
So you're saying that they're pro at the offense but amateur on the defense , that statement won't hold his ground on this thread
I don't say they are amateur!!!!!
but they can't be considered shield!!!!
you see…you can never say zoro is the shield in the crew...
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I don't say they are amateur!!!!!
but they can't be considered shield!!!!
you see…you can never say zoro is the shield in the crew...
Why are you screaming around? Seriously I love Bart and he would be an awesome character and ability wise for me BUT
He won't join. If anything he will be an ally with his club.
And well first we have to see how he will like the true Luffy and not newspaper Luffy
I'm just saying that there is an empty space for a shield in the crew and I would be happy if it was filled by Barto since he is one of my favorite characters in this arc…
I know that the crew is strong and they can very well defend themselves against foes but it's a fact that there is no one with the position of a shield.... an absolute shield...
let me put it in this way...
zoro is the swordman in the crew.
Brook is also a swordman... but his position in the crew is not that (he is the musician), because zoro is on an entirely different level than brook...
I'm saying that Barto's shield is really something else!!!
..............
p.s.Do I look like I'm screaming? :))))
I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?
I'm just saying that there is an empty space for a shield in the crew and I would be happy if it was filled by Barto since he is one of my favorite characters in this arc…
I know that the crew is strong and they can very well defend themselves against foes but it's a fact that there is no one with the position of a shield.... an absolute shield...let me put it in this way...
zoro is the swordman in the crew.
Brook is also a swordman... but his position in the crew is not that (he is the musician), because zoro is on an entirely different level than brook...I'm saying that Barto's shield is really something else!!!
..............
p.s.Do I look like I'm screaming? :))))
Kishido is the only person in this forum who can back you up with this Bartolomeo stuff and he isn't.
Brook is not in the strawhats because he's a swordsman and a pirate crew doesn't have such position as the ultimate shield or whatever you wanna call it
if a crew can have a position like swordsman or sniper… it can have a position like shield...
not that it is necessary to have this position for sailing...but there can be such position
Luffy said that he wants 10 Nakama... there is still 2 place in the crew that should be filled.
one belongs to jinbei.
the other one should be someone with a position that we already didn't have...
and a shield is something that came to my mind...
if there there is another position that the crew needs that they don't have already, feel free to say it.
I'm interested, and would be delighted to hear about it 
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