Next Strawhat Crewmate (Vol. 6)

[BeariousJones]

How about the qualities of the next nakama. It could help identifying the next nakama before it is official.
Have Jinbe's been answered? Has this been addressed somewhere in this forum?
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Straw_Hat_Pirates/Miscellaneous Jinbe
Animal Resemblance: Whale Shark
Specific Number: 10?
Specific Color: Turquoise or Coral
Specific Smell: The Sea
Favorite Type of Island and Season: Spring on a Spring Island
Favorite Food: Japanese seafood
As a Family: Uncle
Genderswapped: ?
Nationalities: Japanese(same as Zoro)
Inner Brain: Pride, Honor, Karate, ?, ?
Suited Flower: Amazon lily, Parrot's feather, Seaweed? lol
Blood Type: B
Bathing: every day(fishman lol)

List of unique/interesting traits not taken by current members that I think are plausible
Animal Resemblance: Chinese Zodiac Animals, Bear, Eagle, Mink
Specific Number: 11 or more
Specific Color: Gold, Silver, Copper, Gray, Brown
Specific Smell: ?
Favorite Type of Island and Season: Summer on a Summer Island?
Favorite Food: Mexican(Tacos, Burritos), Italian(Pizza), Breakfast
As a Family: Aunt, Grandmother, 2nd Daughter, Cousin
Genderswapped: ?
Nationalities: British, Irish, Mexican, Chinese, German, Italian, Australian, Jamaican, Indian, Spainish, Egyptian
Inner Brain: Work, Obey, Dance
Suited Flower: Gardenia, Lilac, Orchid, Venus Fly Trap, Cactus Flower, Lotus
Blood Type: B and AB if all is even then two more members after Jinbe
Bathing: Never

[Cyan D. Funk]

None of those actually mean anything as far as future crewmembers go, and are mostly fun fluff Oda makes up for the SBS.

[BeariousJones]

@Cyan:

None of those actually mean anything as far as future crewmembers go, and are mostly fun fluff Oda makes up for the SBS.

I know that most of these questions Oda answered are from fan questions. But even so these are from him directly. These are his thoughts on his characters. I think there is something to take away from it. I am not implying any one individual truly fits the mold yet. The color of some characters aren't even known yet. No strong unique dreams yet. But if it in some way convinces others and myself to eliminate a character for next nakama then it will lessen the traffic for the more knowledgable of One Piece structure.

[Monkey King]

@BeariousJones:

I know that most of these questions Oda answered are from fan questions. But even so these are from him directly. These are his thoughts on his characters.

And not every thought Oda has is a serious or important, I mean seriously, have you read the SBS? Because it really really sounds like you've never actually done so and have only come across stuff quoted from it second hand.

I appreciate the effort to "eliminate" people from the running, but this is not the method to do so. And in fact this sort of color/number tea leaf reading is more often than not used to bolster some of the worse theories.
Like a few pages ago when someone tried using a goofy number code thing mentioned in the SBS to say Kuma would join the crew.

[indigoink]

On some level I agree that I think Oda would be thinking about new crewmates as a "fill in the blanks" type activity, like you describe. By that I mean that he will want new members to make the crew more diverse and interesting. There's no point adding more of the same. So for that reason I am wondering, if a female is really joining the crew, maybe it is more likely that a dwarf or something crazy like that would join as we already have 2 normal human women on the ship. Anyway he would likely be thinking about colours, sizes, height, shapes, fighting style, that sort of thing - what he has covered and what he hasn't - but other than that I don't think using the general background info type stuff is going to be helpful as it's quite secondary to more central themes like their dream and so on.

[BeariousJones]

Nah I haven't read the SBS. Just saw the information on the One Piece wiki. I'm guessing from your tone that it is not a serious source of information. Oh well.

Kuma: Bear, Brown Color?, Roman, etc…but another cyborg made by Vegapunk...I see what you mean.

[Monkey King]

@indigo~ink:

colours, sizes, height, shapes, fighting style, that sort of thing

That's like secondary if not tertiary to creating a new character for something like the main friggin cast.

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@BeariousJones:

Nah I haven't read the SBS. Just saw the information on the One Piece wiki. I'm guessing from your tone that it is not a serious source of information. Oh well.

Kuma: Bear, Brown Color?, Roman, etc…but another cyborg made by Vegapunk...I see what you mean.

It is sometimes serious, it is sometimes completely nonsense, and sometimes it's just fun like with things like those.

[indigoink]

^ For sure there are more important considerations, e.g. their purpose in moving forward the narrative, their overall aspirations, their role within the team. My point was that for a manga, the visual/stylistic aspects of a character, both as an individual and in terms of their place within the complete Strawhat crew, is something Oda would consider and design extremely carefully. So for us mere mortals who can't hope to guess the plot ahead of time, considering other things like appearances and fighting styles may be useful in the process of elimination of new characters as future nakama. Just like how people go 'we can't have Kinemon we already have Zoro why would there be two swordsmen'. I'm a visual person so I find it interesting to think of what the future cast lineup will look like from a design point of view. Well anyhoo essentially I was just agreeing that the things that come out of the SBS enrich existing characters rather than provide clues as to future characters.

[Smiley]

Oh man, the SBS are one of the best things on the volumes.
They so crazy yet they give information.

[ponx]

Since we're talking about a new nakama based on jobs, I have my own categorization about the jobs/roles/positions of each SH member:
1). Crucial : Navigator, Chef, Doctor
2). Important : Firstmate, Sharpshooter, Shipwright
3). Plot-related : Archeologist
4). Luffy-oriented : Musician

There were people disagreeing about Franky joining because they said Ussopp was doing a good job as a shipwright. But he wasn't, we can actually see Merry keeps getting patches here n there throughout the Grand Line (which was saying something about Ussopp's 'shipwright skill'), until finally the verdict was given early in the Water 7 arc. So it was heavily indicated that the crew needed a good shipwright, unless they wanted to switch ships every other journey.

A lot of people puts Jimbe as the helmsman, but I see him as the underwater specialist. There was never any indication of needing a good helmsman, Nami has been giving them orders of what to do/where to steer. But an underwater guy? Although it was also never mentioned, there is no denying how invaluable a fishman, of Jimbe's caliber no less, to a pirate crew sailing through the New World would be.

Now a Botanist/Gardener is not a crucial job, nor is it plot-related or Luffy-oriented (he has never said anything about wanting a gardener). The only category that's up for debate is 'importance', because by definition, its very arguable. But I see 2 clear indication of why a gardener isn't important:
1). There was never any indication that the SH needed a good gardener (be it to take care of the orange tree, herb plants, or spices). And there wasn't even a panel where Ussopp is shown he is having trouble with his Pop-Green garden. So to be bringing it up now, out of nowhere, would be ridiculous.
2) All of the current SH's role contributes to the whole ship. Even Brooke (he provides entertainment). But a gardener will only benefits Ussopp. By this argument, even a cabin boy has more chance of getting in than a gardener.

By this categorization, even Kyros the Bronze Statue has more chance of getting in than a gardener simply because Luffy has said he wanted one.

[Kishido]

@ponx:

Since we're talking about a new nakama based on jobs, I have my own categorization about the jobs/roles/positions of each SH member:
1). Crucial : Navigator, Chef, Doctor
2). Important : Firstmate, Sharpshooter, Shipwright, DEFENDER
3). Plot-related : Archeologist
4). Luffy-oriented : Musician, TROLL

Well there is really something we need

[Monkey King]

@indigo~ink:

^ For sure there are more important considerations, e.g. their purpose in moving forward the narrative, their overall aspirations, their role within the team. My point was that for a manga, the visual/stylistic aspects of a character, both as an individual and in terms of their place within the complete Strawhat crew, is something Oda would consider and design extremely carefully. So for us mere mortals who can't hope to guess the plot ahead of time, considering other things like appearances and fighting styles may be useful in the process of elimination of new characters as future nakama.

And in that case when you seem them it should leave NO doubt.
Since we got on the Grand Line the new crewmates have stood out like sore thumbs.
Even Robin did back in Whiskey Peak visually speaking.

[grunk]

@Kishido:

Well there is really something we need[/QUOTE

Aft´erguard

| n. | 1. | (Naut.) The seaman or seamen stationed on the poop or after part of the ship, to attend the after-sails.

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Perfect for Barto

[Monkey King]

@grunk:

@Kishido:

Well there is really something we need[/QUOTE

Aft´erguard

| n. | 1. | (Naut.) The seaman or seamen stationed on the poop or after part of the ship, to attend the after-sails. |

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Perfect for Barto

Tell me this post isn't serious.

[abyssal_snarf]

about the gardener thing cant it be a dwarf? its already mentioned thats what theyre good at. usopps little helper lol

[bluntzilla]

@Monkey:

And not every thought Oda has is a serious or important, I mean seriously, have you read the SBS? Because it really really sounds like you've never actually done so and have only come across stuff quoted from it second hand.

I appreciate the effort to "eliminate" people from the running, but this is not the method to do so. And in fact this sort of color/number tea leaf reading is more often than not used to bolster some of the worse theories.
Like a few pages ago when someone tried using a goofy number code thing mentioned in the SBS to say Kuma would join the crew.

To be fair, the number theory is pretty cute, it would mean Kinemon if it's legit though, and not Kuma.

[Monkey King]

@bluntzilla:

To be fair, the number theory is pretty cute, it would mean Kinemon if it's legit though, and not Kuma.

How are boring stupid codes like something you find conspiracy theory people looking into…"cute".

[bluntzilla]

@Monkey:

How are boring stupid codes like something you find conspiracy theory people looking into…"cute".

Because it's not really subtantive evidence, but it would be cool if it actually foreshadowed the next character. Anyone who takes it as gospel is silly though.

[indigoink]

If it's real, I think it's amazing. It shows that Oda thinks of EVERYTHING. The man is a genius…

...if it's a coincidence, well then never mind XD

[Mahreow]

@ponx:

Now a Botanist/Gardener is not a crucial job, nor is it plot-related or Luffy-oriented (he has never said anything about wanting a gardener). The only category that's up for debate is 'importance', because by definition, its very arguable. But I see 2 clear indication of why a gardener isn't important:
1). There was never any indication that the SH needed a good gardener (be it to take care of the orange tree, herb plants, or spices). And there wasn't even a panel where Ussopp is shown he is having trouble with his Pop-Green garden. So to be bringing it up now, out of nowhere, would be ridiculous.
2) All of the current SH's role contributes to the whole ship. Even Brooke (he provides entertainment). But a gardener will only benefits Ussopp. By this argument, even a cabin boy has more chance of getting in than a gardener.

Actually, it was hinted through the series that a botanist has an important role ever since Noland's flashback. Besides it MIGHT be "plot-oriented", as you stated, because we still don't know much about de Adam Tree, except it being mentioned twice in the series.

[bluntzilla]

@Mahreow:

Actually, it was hinted through the series that a botanist has an important role ever since Noland's flashback. Besides it MIGHT be "plot-oriented", as you stated, because we still don't know much about de Adam Tree, except it being mentioned twice in the series.

why is a botanist important?

[Jewelery Bonney]

Unless the Strawhats plan on growing weed, they ain't getting a botanist.

[Mahreow]

Well, people are grasping at straws and talking about hints even without much evidence, I'm just doing the same:
there was a botanist on an early Straw Hat Pirates concept, there was a flashback where Noland saved the Shandians using his botanist knowledge, we learned about the Adam Tree on Water 7 and we heard about it once more on Fishman Island. Now, there are a bunch of dwarves who were once visited by Noland and now are good botanists. I'm not saying a dwarf will join (I don't think we saw anything leading to any of them joining until now), but if someone needs a "job" to join the crew, I can see why a botanist might be this role to be fulfilled.

[knceng]

Botanist can provide nutrient for the crew and for Sanji to pick

[valiantt]

Grasping at straws…just like those folks that stated the SHs needed a maid to support their Baby5 nonsense.

[WarshipArc]

But we already have a botonist, Usopp fills the botonist role.
Just because he doesn't need to mention it every second sentence does not make him invalid.

[Monkey King]

@Mahreow:

Actually, it was hinted through the series that a botanist has an important role ever since Noland's flashback.

No it wasn't .

[Sereques]

The Botainist talk is amusing. Noland study medicinal plants, in a way, he's doctor. After spending two yrs in that library, I'm sure Chopper is far advanced in medicinal plants. Ussop plants his pop greens, the crew doesn't need a farm on Sunny Go. They stop at different island frequesntly to restock. They ain't broke.

[BernieCrane]

@Mahreow:

Well, people are grasping at straws and talking about hints even without much evidence, I'm just doing the same:
there was a botanist on an early Straw Hat Pirates concept, there was a flashback where Noland saved the Shandians using his botanist knowledge, we learned about the Adam Tree on Water 7 and we heard about it once more on Fishman Island. Now, there are a bunch of dwarves who were once visited by Noland and now are good botanists. I'm not saying a dwarf will join (I don't think we saw anything leading to any of them joining until now), but if someone needs a "job" to join the crew, I can see why a botanist might be this role to be fulfilled.

Chopper could've done the same thing as Noland since it was a disease. Many of his remedies rely on having the correct plants to create the compounds. Noland was able to save the Shandians because he had encountered the disease in his own homeland before. So he knew what to look for when he saw the symptoms.

The first time we heard about the Adam Tree was from a SHIPWRIGHT

I'm not saying a botanist isn't possible but you're going to have to come up with better reasoning than this.

[MasterKingJC]

The Fanon is strong with this one.

[Mahreow]

Actually it's the same reasoning behind the whole "Usopp wasn't really Straw Hats' shipwright".
Chopper and Usopp aren't really botanists, and we actually don't know much about this profession on One Piece world. But it was mentioned more than once, and there were hints about the importance of the plants (Adam Tree, Eve Tree, a possible connection between them, etc.).
I think this can be developed on the plot even further and my argument is way better than "because boobs". These ancient trees may be connected to the Void Century for all we know.

I'm not saying A BOTANIST WILL DEFINITELY JOIN, I'm saying that the hypotethical new nakama MIGHT be a botanist.

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I just wanted to throw it out there, I don't have any substancial proof about this being a required job on the Sunny and I don't even personally feel we're getting any new crew member. I just wanted to make the discussion more about actual theories than "I think Barto would have fun interactions" or "Rebecca won't join because she's a Nami clone".

[Light Bro]

I don't really see why they would need a botanist now. The only things SH's need plants for are either for food, medicine and Usopp's pop greens, and we have experts on those fields already.

But seriously guys you don't have to be jerks about it! :getlost: I've seen much more far-fetched suggestions than this!

[ICEMAN]

Jinbe should be the one and only nakama recruited in the whole series. Luffy should just force feed the mera mera no mi to Joker's mouth and watch him overdose with 2 fruits, for playing with his brother's df. I think I went overboard with that remark.:ninja:

[valiantt]

^
With comments like these, I sometimes forget I am in the "next crewmate" thread and accidently wandered into the "dumb prediction" thread. I suppose the two go hand in hand.

[BeariousJones]

How many Weather Balls does Nami have? Will she need to replenish her supply? Botanist would help with that if it takes beyond normal skills to grow them outside of Weatheria.

[FelRes]

Replenishing supplies? Ideas of a merchant potentially joining just popped in my head.

Weather Balls sounds like some sort of terrible cereal though.

[Warp Predator]

@BeariousJones:

How many Weather Balls does Nami have? Will she need to replenish her supply? Botanist would help with that if it takes beyond normal skills to grow them outside of Weatheria.

How botanist can grow weather balls? Weatheria has superior technology.
Crew needs a specialist in many fields to replenish all their resources, not just weather technology and plants.
…a SCIENTIST! Shame, there are no such character in immediate vicinity. Or....?:ninja:

!

[BeariousJones]

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Weather_Ball Weather balls are grown in a garden. A botanist studies plants. A gardener tends to and cultivates a garden.
Dwarves as a group proclaimed they can cultivate any plant. Technology is not the issue. It is if you consider a weather ball a plant.

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Another thought...just a thought...what if the botanist/gardener takes care of the Mera Mera no Mi? Devil fruits are "plants" though they don't grow from the soil like normal. Not sure if devil fruits age, rot, or can be destroyed but it could need protection from a specialist of plants from the ailments of the New World until consumed. Maybe bring the fruit to Vegapunk to study and get answers.

[knceng]

@BeariousJones:

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Weather_Ball Weather balls are grown in a garden. A botanist studies plants. A gardener tends to and cultivates a garden.
Dwarves as a group proclaimed they can cultivate any plant. Technology is not the issue. It is if you consider a weather ball a plant.

Please use image from manga to refer your claim…

[Warp Predator]

@BeariousJones:

It is if you consider a weather ball a plant.

They aren't plants. Its never stated in the manga what exactly they are, besides being Weatheria invention.

[Aohige_AP]

@Aedai:

Still faintly waving "Momonosuke" and "Dwarf Princess" banners, but only because their characters/concepts seem intriguing and the right 'flavor' for the Strawhats.

Momo's development is put on a back burner possibly until Wano arc.
We'll see what happens then.

[TheCrystalShip]

@Aohige_AP:

Momo's development is put on a back burner possibly until Wano arc.
We'll see what happens then.

Just the fact that it was put on the back burner kind of tells me that he won't join.

[Piitan]

I'm on the "no more nakamas" bandwagon. We've got enough SHs, just as many as Luffy wanted (see my signature).

[Sereques]

What's with the Momo for new nakama suggestions? He's 8yrs old. That is not a crewmate, that's a burden.

[BeariousJones]

@Warp:

They aren't plants. Its never stated in the manga what exactly they are, besides being Weatheria invention.

My bad. There is no clear images in the manga after reviewing. Hmph…how much is canon that happened in the anime but not in the manga during the 2 year time skip?
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-56760-5/one-piece/chapter-596.html

[FrankyFan]

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the weather balls are grown on a field in the manga.

[knceng]

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[Monkey King]

@BeariousJones:

My bad. There is no clear images in the manga after reviewing. Hmph…how much is canon that happened in the anime but not in the manga during the 2 year time skip?
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-56760-5/one-piece/chapter-596.html

Here's a really easy way it handle presenting non-canon stuff.
Just always use the manga.
I don't get why this is hard.

[BeariousJones]

@FrankyFan:

! http://i6.mangapanda.com/one-piece/592/one-piece-2423303.jpg

the weather balls are grown on a field in the manga.

YES! THANK YOU! Which chapter is this from?

[Ace 4]

@BeariousJones:

YES! THANK YOU! Which chapter is this from?

Chapter 592…................... http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/592/9
If you looked at the bottom of the page in the wiki, there is a reference section that provides the chapters they got their info from.