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In an effort to get this thread back to a topic at least marginally related to what this is supposed to be about:
What does everybody think the odds are for Katakuri to join the Strawhats as an ally? Probably not in the fleet, but maybe in the same way that Marco will help the Strawhats against Kaido. Katakuri is being pretty friendly with Luffy right now.
Thoughts?
Katakuri will defnitely join after the arc ends.
He'll challenge Zoro to a death battle for the right to be the Vice Captain. Where he will win after a hard fought battle in which Zoro reveals his hidden eye powers BUT he still loses because Katakuri's Armament and Observation Haki is better than Zoro's.
Zoro asks Katakuri to fulffil his dream of becoming the greatest Swordsman and Kata agrees because he respects the manly battle they had.
Kata will then start to transform his limbs into sword as he goes on to become the worlds greatest Swordsman.
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Katakuri is gonna start his own crew, Luffy is Katakuri´s Shanks
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Reminder that Katakuri is still trying to eliminate Luffy because he is a threat for Linlin in the future.
Yeah, but they're definitely being buddy-buddy right now, even as they fight.
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Yeah, but they're definitely being buddy-buddy right now, even as they fight.
"Buddy" is kind of a strong word for it. They acknowledge each other, sure, but they still gotta try and knock each other down for the count. I imagine Katakuri will have some internal monologue to close things off, but his actually being an ally for Luffy would be endgame territory, surely.
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Katakuri has passed that stage and reason a long time ago
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Katakuri has passed that stage and reason a long time ago
He literally said this chapter that he wants to put him to rest.
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Yeah, he wants to tuck him in bed, tell him about the adventures of the pirate king: God Usopp before Luffy goes to sleep.
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He literally said this chapter that he wants to put him to rest.
Yes, for himself, not because he is a threat to his mother.
The fight changed from being something Katakuri had to do as the pillar of the BM Pirates to prevent Luffy from becoming a threat in the future to being something Katakuri is doing for himself and his accomplishment. -
Yes, for himself, not because he is a threat to his mother.
The fight changed from being something Katakuri had to do as the pillar of the BM Pirates to prevent Luffy from becoming a threat in the future to being something Katakuri is doing for himself and his accomplishment.My bad, I thought you were trying to say that Katakuri no longer wants to kill him. I'm aware that his reasoning for fighting him has changed somewhat.
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It was assumed that Doflamingo killed Bellamy for being an embarassment for like, 12 years. It was certainly the implication at the time. And that was at a point in the series where people still actually died sometimes.
Bellamy being alive retroactively pushed the cutoff date for death from "end of Skypeia" to "three shmucks that drank magic water that fought Crocodile." Like a whole two years earlier in the series.
Considering that Doflamingo's dialogue was essentially telling Bellamy to go find his own path in life, regardless of the fade to black on the Sarquiss cut, I believe Oda always planned to bring Bellamy back, even if he intended readers to think otherwise.
Especially when you factor in the event with the bounty posters where Bellamy's was still shown to be active, years before his in manga return.
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Katakuri will defnitely join after the arc ends.
He'll challenge Zoro to a death battle for the right to be the Vice Captain. Where he will win after a hard fought battle in which Zoro reveals his hidden eye powers BUT he still loses because Katakuri's Armament and Observation Haki is better than Zoro's.
Zoro asks Katakuri to fulffil his dream of becoming the greatest Swordsman and Kata agrees because he respects the manly battle they had.
Kata will then start to transform his limbs into sword as he goes on to become the worlds greatest Swordsman.
Theory does not involve Zorro falling down some stairs to death. It is invalid.
Considering that Doflamingo's dialogue was essentially telling Bellamy to go find his own path in life, regardless of the fade to black on the Sarquiss cut, I believe Oda always planned to bring Bellamy back, even if he intended readers to think otherwise.
Especially when you factor in the event with the bounty posters where Bellamy's was still shown to be active, years before his in manga return.
It's too bad that he ended up having so much NO IMPACT on the plot whatsoever. Sure, Oda brought him back, but it didn't accomplish anything.
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Theory does not involve Zorro falling down some stairs to death. It is invalid.
It's too bad that he ended up having so much NO IMPACT on the plot whatsoever. Sure, Oda brought him back, but it didn't accomplish anything.
I'd say cementing Bellamy as one of his best characters is accomplishing something.
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I'd say cementing Bellamy as one of his best characters is accomplishing something.
Very few people think this.
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I'd say cementing Bellamy as one of his best characters is accomplishing something.
Literally HOW did ANYTHING in Dressrosa do any favors for Bellamy's character in general, much less cement him? Every time he was allowed on camera, he made a complete and utter fool of himself, with the ONE exception of that attack on Jeet and Abdullah. At the conclusion of Dressrosa, Bellamy is hot garbage in a can at best; a dumpster fire rolling down a street in San Francisco at worst.
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Literally HOW did ANYTHING in Dressrosa do any favors for Bellamy's character in general, much less cement him? Every time he was allowed on camera, he made a complete and utter fool of himself, with the ONE exception of that attack on Jeet and Abdullah. At the conclusion of Dressrosa, Bellamy is hot garbage in a can at best; a dumpster fire rolling down a street in San Francisco at worst.
This entire comment is a perfect example of Bellamy criticism I don't take seriously (I've read valid criticism of his character or at least Oda's handling of his plot points throughout Dressrosa) and what I see as a disservice to Oda's goals throughout the series, when writing anything.
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Very few people think this.
Am I supposed to care what other people think?
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Am I supposed to care what other people think?
No, but you can't say anything got cemented as anything if it's only a fringe opinion.
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Not sure if I'd call Bellamy one of the best characters, but when an author manages to make one of the most annoying dudes to ever appear in a manga into a character you sympathize with, root for and want to succeed and move forward, you have to appreciate what was done with him.
Maybe the effect would have been better if Oda made him a little less of a punching bag, though.
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Not sure if I'd call Bellamy one of the best characters, but when an author manages to make one of the most annoying dudes to ever appear in a manga into a character you sympathize with, root for and want to succeed and move forward, you have to appreciate what was done with him.
Maybe the effect would have been better if Oda made him a little less of a punching bag, though.
For most readers that wasn't achieved, which throws a shadow over my constant Bellamy praise, but I believe his arc was for the most part well written, structured, and showed some of Oda's strongest thematic and character work to date, and my praise also factors in Jaya Bellamy, who was an unappreciated character in the role he had/as a villain.
I love him though, and that won't change (He's in my top five, one of my favorite characters in fiction, and my account name "Boing" is named so after his springy sounds) no matter what, can't wait until Oda brings him back into the story.
I agree on the punching bag part though, I would have loved to see more of his backbreaking like was done with Abdullah and Jeet and maybe have had him stand more of a chance against Dellinger, my headcanon (ignoring he anime) is that Bellamy was so rocked by hearing about Doflamingo wanting him killed, that he couldn't put up much of a fight and was thus mollywhopped.
@AvocadoInTheRain:No, but you can't say anything got cemented as anything if it's only a fringe opinion.
Semantics.
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Think of it this way: if Bellamy had remained dead, we wouldn't have thought about it during Dressrosa. But his role was of service to the story: it didn't take anything away except that his whole crew may have perished instead of him. But he was being controlled (literally through controlling Sarquiss) before his apparent death, and was still under Doflamingo's figurative control two years later, so it bookends nicely. No character's survival has yet taken away from the events stemming from their sacrifices, and those who actually died did so in order to profoundly change a character's path in the course of the story.
What it boils down to is how will Pedro's death or survival affect the story, specifically Carrot and Sanji? Pedro being alive would restore the status quo, with the two of them as simply Zou citizens on a set mission. His death, nebulous as it may be, has nudged Carrot into the more proactive role she now has: working together and impressing the SHs and being the one to showcase Sulong. Plus, if Sanji's feelings on the matter were merely subtext before, they have definitely become relevant now that Brook has temporarily sheilded him from that knowledge: that simple act implies it's going to be properly addressed sooner or later. Pedro turning out 1:1 alive removes all purpose from what Carrot and Sanji have been driving toward: facing his death after they are free from running and have time to mourn.
I contend that Pedro's 50 years of lifeforce is all that remains of him, and that may very well play a part in how this arc ends. Whether it's as the scarecrow Homie, a new Homie body or as a spirit or force or whatever, it's gonna do something important to settle things, and I don't think that includes simply going back to the status quo.
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No character's survival has yet taken away from the events stemming from their sacrifices, and those who actually died did so in order to profoundly change a character's path in the course of the story.
I disagree on two counts: Pell and Pagaya. Oda's stated reason for bringing them back is that he didn't want those deaths to taint the feeling of victory at the end of the arc. The difference between those two arcs and WCI is that I don't think WCI is supposed to end with a huge feeling of victory. The Sunny got trashed, and Luffy/vs/Katakuri is probably going to end in a tie with Luffy talk-no-jutsuing his way out of the situation. This wasn't Enies Lobby where they got in, crushed everyone, and got out. Here they accomplished their primary goal of saving Sanji, but their assassination plot was a miserable failure and they're desperately running away. So even if Pedro lives, he's still in enemy territory with no way out. Pell and Pagaya returned on what was now friendly territory.
There's also that there have been two deaths on the good guys' side this arc. So if Oda doesn't want to "taint the feeling of victory", he's going to have to bullshit two different ways for Pedro and Pound to have survived. And I don't see that happening twice this arc.
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Pell's survival did get in the way of the entire premise of Luffy telling Vivi that she had to be willing to make sacrifices. Pell dying would have cement that notion and be a building block for Vivi and the rest of Alabasta to grow stronger, to avoid sacrifices like that.
Pedro and Pound are both character that can be very easily brought back.
Pound is the typical fake out, it will never make sense that Oda kills Pound and then allows for the Big Mom pirates to turn good if that is where the story is going. Big Mom might have been manipulated, but she did enjoy profoundly the actions she had been doing and at her age there is a limit to how much a blind eye could be turned. The important thing is, if anyone deserves a happy ending is the father that was separated from his family for more than a decade, his daughter saw him and called him a pervert before he "died", not to mention, his farewell speech that was not even heard by the people meant to be heard. His death is empty, and as seen before when Randolph threw a spear to his head, Oven's attack might have burned some of his hair and left a scratch on that big head of his.
About Pedro, if things turn out buddy buddy with Big Mom, then he HAS to come back this arc, if the story is going in that direction they better make a full commit on it, with all the fathers coming back, Pound, Pedro, Opera, Moscato, even organ dealer. Everyone survives and they all party.
On the other hand, I always thought that this was an arc where it would be noted as "The great escape". However, even with Sanji's successful retrieval, the consequences of going against an emperor would be visible. Like the Sunny's condition, Pedro's apparent death (only for him to come back to the story with Pekoms later). Not to mention, Luffy, the more we moved forward, the more I think that he will be unconscious until they reunite with the rest of the crew. Sanji alluding to saving his captain, makes it seem that Luffy will be close to being killed, and Sanji will Mr. Prince his way out of there.
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Pedro and Pound are both character that can be very easily brought back.
Pound can easily come back if he got saved by someone. The problem is that there's nobody we know of that could defeat Oven on Cocoa island. So it would have to be someone new to the arc and that's something we can't foresee.
Pedro is a different matter. He definitely died on that beach. MB might bring him back through the years she took (though I have seperate reasons not to believe that), but that explosion definitely killed him. The biggest indicator of this is that Perospero was so monumentally pissed at the strawhats because of Pedro. If he was that pissed at them, then that means he made double sure that he couldn't get any amount of revenge from Pedro himself. Also, Oda already had a fakeout death for Pedro this arc when he blew up the dynamite next to Tomago. I don't see Oda doing this twice, I see it as Oda burning the fake out death card to get it out of the way before the real death.
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Pound can easily come back if he got saved by someone. The problem is that there's nobody we know of that could defeat Oven on Cocoa island. So it would have to be someone new to the arc and that's something we can't foresee.
Pedro is a different matter. He definitely died on that beach. MB might bring him back through the years she took (though I have seperate reasons not to believe that), but that explosion definitely killed him. The biggest indicator of this is that Perospero was so monumentally pissed at the strawhats because of Pedro. If he was that pissed at them, then that means he made double sure that he couldn't get any amount of revenge from Pedro himself. Also, Oda already had a fakeout death for Pedro this arc when he blew up the dynamite next to Tomago. I don't see Oda doing this twice, I see it as Oda burning the fake out death card to get it out of the way before the real death.
Pedro most definitely didn't die on the beach. You saying you think Oda wouldn't do two fake out deaths, but then go on to say you think he'd kill off a character in such a way shows you don't understand Oda's writing style. The cards are all there. Just because you can't think of a way he could've survived doesn't mean Oda also can't. You gotta stop thinking of it in terms of "death" and instead think of it in terms of "how he survived"
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Pound can easily come back if he got saved by someone. The problem is that there's nobody we know of that could defeat Oven on Cocoa island. So it would have to be someone new to the arc and that's something we can't foresee.
It is not about defeating Oven, we already saw Oven is fine. It is about someone grabbing Pound as he is unconscious, injured and bleeding and healing him. We saw that previous members of the Nox pirates were in Cacao island. The also is if Oven's hit was enough to kill him. Some might complain that how is possible Oven cannot kill Pound. While Oda would see it as: well he didn't account for his big head!
Pedro is a different matter. He definitely died on that beach. MB might bring him back through the years she took (though I have seperate reasons not to believe that), but that explosion definitely killed him.
With everything that has transpired in this manga. Pedro's explosion falls into the category of, this would mean death if it were any show but One Piece. Here I will stop, to clarify: I would love if death were more prominent in One Piece, there have been characters that could have died, but they did not. Exhibit A: Brownbeard. Mr. I can see the future by looking at cards told him his chances of survival were 0% he ended up alive in Punk Hazard. Got shot in the face by the Yeti Cool Brothers (giants that rifles are basically cannons.), and he was fine too. We got an entire island running from this super deadly poison gas that is being displayed for the world to see how deadly it is. Well actually if the paralyzed fall (like Kinemon) or are tended to, the gas merely paralyzes and it takes a long time before it actually kills.
So even if I sound like a psycho saying so, I would love Pedro to be dead. But evidence points to the contrary. And as I have mentioned before, if Oda is going to be doing deaths more recurrent from now on, he should just stick to his forte on keeping everyone alive. Primary example would be Sugar having zero emotion whatsoever about Monet's death, and they are sisters.
The biggest indicator of this is that Perospero was so monumentally pissed at the strawhats because of Pedro. Also, Oda already had a fakeout death for Pedro this arc when he blew up the dynamite next to Tomago. I don't see Oda doing this twice, I see it as Oda burning the fake out death card to get it out of the way before the real death.
In any other show sure, if One Piece is going to become that type of show, then it needs to give it way more substance, not just some quick flashback panel so we are invested.
So the biggest indicator that he is alive is actually Perospero. He was as close to the explosion as Pedro was and he lost an arm. Doesn't need medical attention and instead of going to the hospital has actually spearheaded the Straw Hats and the cakes chase. He is for all intent and purposes completely fine. Now, the counter argument: Perospero's candy armor! Well Minks are warriors trained from birth, Pedro has a stronger physic than Peros. Stretching it? Perhaps, but it is only but a way to start the revival process. If Pedro's body was strong enough to survive even if he lost a bunch of limbs, the fire from the explosion charred his wounds so he does not bleed out, and then Prometheus, whom stayed behind because he was eating fire from the forest saves Pedro from burning alive. As Pedro goes in and out from consciousness he catches a glimpse of the full moon and transforms, his body is now stronger, he has lost his legs, but can still fly with his tail.
And that is just me thinking about how he could survive with some of the panels we saw until now, I bet Oda has thought of other scenarios besides that. The first fake out was debunked the same chapter it happened because after the explosion there is a panel showing a broken mirror. Clearly showing us that the mirror world crew had intervened somehow. Personally, I wouldn't even call it a fake out.
If he was that pissed at them, then that means he made double sure that he couldn't get any amount of revenge from Pedro himself.
That makes logical sense, but is just but a plausible scenario. Peros could have wanted revenge, but then Big Mom starts to chase the Straw Hats and he is forced to make the slug and accompany her, frustrating him even more, because he could NOT abuse Pedro's body. Therefore displaying such anger.
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Man it's not anyone but oda's fault that all these character lived arguments would sound like fanfiction from delusional fans who didnt want to admit their favorite character died in any other series. But because it's one piece they have to be considered logically. Im surprised there werent more than 3-4 people in the AP 574 thread that thought ace's death was another fakeout. One guy didnt even believe it until the war ended
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I will take that as a compliment :D. And that is not even factoring in that Pekoms, whom has been missing since the full moon was revealed, was crying for his death. It is really simple to say: Pekoms went to check Pedro's remnants found him alive, realized that he had to do something about it, but couldn't let the Big Mom Pirates know as Pedro would clearly be executed for injuring the first son. So Pekoms finally defects from the Big Mom Pirates to save his aniki.
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Pound can easily come back if he got saved by someone. The problem is that there's nobody we know of that could defeat Oven on Cocoa island. So it would have to be someone new to the arc and that's something we can't foresee.
The weirdest part is that Oven is already back to the story and nothing in him suggests he fought someone or that someone intervened in Pound's execution. I still don't know what to think of that because I was sure we wouldn't see Oven anytime soon until it was time to reveal Pound was safe
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Man it's not anyone but oda's fault that all these character lived arguments would sound like fanfiction from delusional fans who didnt want to admit their favorite character died in any other series. But because it's one piece they have to be considered logically. Im surprised there werent more than 3-4 people in the AP 574 thread that thought ace's death was another fakeout. One guy didnt even believe it until the war ended
The silly theories are the most entertaining part. It'd be easier on everyone if people would just say "Just wait for Oda to reveal how they lived", would save everyone time and sounds just as, if not more valid. But then you wouldn't get stuff like the full moon theory I suppose.
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It should also be noted that Oda's grandmother who told him he shouldn't kill his characters so easily passed away a few years ago, so Oda might not have as much incentive to keep these characters alive as he used to.
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The weirdest part is that Oven is already back to the story and nothing in him suggests he fought someone or that someone intervened in Pound's execution. I still don't know what to think of that because I was sure we wouldn't see Oven anytime soon until it was time to reveal Pound was safe
by Lola's actions)Oh shit, I forgot we saw Oven since the Pound chapter. Yeah, I think Pound is dead. He was swinging at his neck.
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Or Oda has even more incentive to hold onto that ~promise~.
As I said before, if anyone is alive it is Pound, Oda does not write unhappy stories such as his. Oven could have hit him on his back.
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The double fake out even works better because it makes fans be: well of course he is dead. Just so Oda can show up at your house, wearing some suave suit, and hand you a paper:
They all live.
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You turn the paper, except Shanks.
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Shanks dying is both super predictable for his role and combined with how nobody dies in one piece, when we get to a scenario where he fights blackbeard there'll be a lot of people staking their bets on him living. The only question to me is when will that fight happen, oda can subvert the zoro mihawk fight but could he get away with luffy and shanks not meeting? Im inclined to think he wont have BB kills shanks before they meet but I'm not so sure. Ace died in a such a brutal way that its almost like oda takes all the power of the "tragedies" he averts and greatly saddens the events around people who actually die.
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I think that a stronger emotional response would be attained if Luffy has met Shanks, maybe even given back the hat.
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No way is Shanks accepting the hat back, he will give it back to Luffy when he tries and say it looks better on him/Luffy then it ever did on his head.
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It should also be noted that Oda's grandmother who told him he shouldn't kill his characters so easily
Erm, what? First time I've ever heard this.
He doesn't kill characters because he personally got upset when a main character died in Fist of the North Star and it put him off the series at the time, so he knows full well the feeling that any character can be someone's favorite.
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That sounds so corny, it probably is one of the options.
There is quite a bit to gain from Shanks accepting the hat back. Either way, Luffy would get it back. I just like imagining that before the final war and when Blackbeard and Luffy are staring at each other, Blackbeard shows a tattered hat and drops it.
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Erm, what? First time I've ever heard this.
He doesn't kill characters because he personally got upset when a main character died in Fist of the North Star and it put him off the series at the time, so he knows full well the feeling that any character can be someone's favorite.
Think he is confusing with what his grandmother told him.
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Erm, what? First time I've ever heard this.
There's another part where he goes more in depth about what she told him about how he should treat death in his writing but I can't find it right now.
He doesn't kill characters because he personally got upset when a main character died in Fist of the North Star and it put him off the series at the time, so he knows full well the feeling that any character can be someone's favorite.
If that's the case, why was he so much more willing to kill characters in the first chapter?
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If that's the case, why was he so much more willing to kill characters in the first chapter?
Because he was casual about secondary characters at the start. He had less appreciation at the time for the age of his target audience and the effect and influence he had. And he had after all, grown up on Dragonball and FotNS where people die regularly enough.
That's why there was casual death all over the place early on (but never important named characters with screentime!) and then it petered out around Alabasta a couple years in, was gone completely by the end of Skypeia, and has pretty much been a hardline "no death" stance since. One Piece became the number 1 series and Oda got to see favorite character polls and received letters and he could see "oh, even though this was just a minor background character, there are still people that got attached to them and will be sad if they died and they might enjoy the series less."
He started with the intention of not killing big characters, and then grew into not killing small ones either. (He generally only let characters die that had been around for only a few panels.) It's generally agreed this is actually to the story's detriment because no one believes anyone is dead anymore, even though Oda keeps playing the drama of an actual death card.
Even in the big deaths in the time since, Whitebeard was introduced as old and sickly from the getgo… Going Merry got to "live on" when Franky made a new mini-boat and Ace hadn't even died yet before Oda started putting in the idea of Sabo in to help ease the audience and give them a surrogate.
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No way is Shanks accepting the hat back, he will give it back to Luffy when he tries and say it looks better on him/Luffy then it ever did on his head.
Except for the part where Shanks dies and Luffy leaves it on his grave at the end of the series. :ninja:
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Except for the part where Shanks dies and Luffy leaves it on his grave at the end of the series. :ninja:
There wont be a grave because blackbeard will eat him.
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There wont be a grave because blackbeard will eat him.
And then Luffy will mount an attack on Blackbeard.
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@Long:
There wont be a grave because blackbeard will eat him.
Dude, that's savage.
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There have been casual deaths left and right even after Alabasta, the impact is ismply not big because Oda shows it "on the side" and they are not named characters the audience has spent time with.
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There wont be a grave because blackbeard will eat him.
Teach: You still can deliver that Strawhat back on your friend's red hair
*Teach removes tricorne hat
Teach: "I ate him for his luscious red hair!".
And then Luffy will beat Blackbeard, place his strawhat on Blackbeard and his newly acquired hair.
Oh and Monet is alive and joins as the crews astrologist. She does horoscopes for the crew.
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I disagree on two counts: Pell and Pagaya. Oda's stated reason for bringing them back is that he didn't want those deaths to taint the feeling of victory at the end of the arc. The difference between those two arcs and WCI is that I don't think WCI is supposed to end with a huge feeling of victory. The Sunny got trashed, and Luffy/vs/Katakuri is probably going to end in a tie with Luffy talk-no-jutsuing his way out of the situation. This wasn't Enies Lobby where they got in, crushed everyone, and got out. Here they accomplished their primary goal of saving Sanji, but their assassination plot was a miserable failure and they're desperately running away. So even if Pedro lives, he's still in enemy territory with no way out. Pell and Pagaya returned on what was now friendly territory.
There's also that there have been two deaths on the good guys' side this arc. So if Oda doesn't want to "taint the feeling of victory", he's going to have to bullshit two different ways for Pedro and Pound to have survived. And I don't see that happening twice this arc.
It's that victorious feeling I'm talking about: the sacrificial characters surviving didn't ruin the victories achieved in those arcs. Vivi and Conis, spurred on by those sacrifices, did what they had to do, and they were basically rewarded in the end with the return of their loved ones. I see Pound coming back for the same reason, to give closure to Chiffon and Pez and likewise reward them for their heroism. It's still hard to see how he escaped Oven, but if I'm hearing you correctly, we both think Pound's survival would be a lot more satisfactory than Pedro's if it has to be just one.
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Actually, didn't Zunisha kill Jack's pirates ? Except Jack himself who can breathe under water.
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I doubt that Sheepshead and Ginrummy aren't appearing again after how much focus they got (they're pretty much the Pekoms and Tamago of the Beast Pirates), so they probably all floated on driftwood or something dumb like that.
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There have been casual deaths left and right even after Alabasta, the impact is ismply not big because Oda shows it "on the side" and they are not named characters the audience has spent time with.
No there haven't. Maybe in the vague "there are armies fighting and giant areas being destroyed so logically there must be SOME losses" sense.
Anyone that has even one line of dialogue or one panel of focus is immortal though.
Like the pirate at the slave auction who bit off his own tongue and was declared dead by doctors. Or the runaway slave who had an explosive collar strapped to his neck that charred him to a crisp that was then repeatedly shot and peed on. Or every single person affected by the "deadly" gas on Punk Hazard. Or apparently every single civilian in Dresserossa that was threatened by the death cage. And every single mink that was poisoned because CHopper was able to save them. Or apparently everone at Marineford, except Ace and Whitebeard, since Coby and Shanks stepped in at a point where everyone was able to get away and recover because they stopped the fighting in time. (though we haven't seens Oars since…)
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Maybe in the vague "there are armies fighting and giant areas being destroyed so logically there must be SOME losses" sense.
Anyone that has even one line of dialogue or one panel of focus is immortal though. Like the pirate at the slave auction who bit off his own tongue and was declared dead by doctors. Or the runaway slave who had an explosive collar strapped to his neck that charred him to a crisp that was then repeatedly shot and peed on. Or every single person affected by the "deadly" gas on Punk Hazard. Or apparently every single civilian in Dresserossa that was threatened by the death cage.
Did that one guy that was killed by the priests at the begenning of Skypiea ever show up again. He seems Oda just forgot he killed him and never got resurrected.